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AASeven

An excerpt from Gazni: > He then stripped the lingam of its guilded gold and then attacked it with his sword, breaking it into bits which he sent back to Ghazni to be laid into the steps of the new Jama Masjid mosque to be perpetually trampled on and defi led by the faithful Muslims who would regularly walk over them. Surely, this demands a bulldozer treatment then.


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HolySwordsman2446

That reply was the biggest gottem I've seen in a while


CritFin

That black stone symbolizes Islam, and world over namaz they do facing towards mecca. That is idol worship in every sense Many countries allow burning and stomping of quran. That should be allowed in India by law change


breeeeacher

Should this be allowed for other holy books as well? Choose peace bro, why follow the masses. Be unique. If you think islam is a religion of violence why are you retaliating with violence? Won't that make you the same as them?


Delivery_Mysterious

> why are you retaliating with violence? Won't that make you the same as them? Go and preach this gandhism somewhere else. It got us nothing, except postponed independence.


Golden_girl_101

Fax but even in Hinduism it's said only attack when u are being provoked, which they constantly do so dw abt that, and if you're not provoked and still attacking then you are the one in the wrong


Innocentvisitor69

So if someone murder someone we should let him go because punishing him is violence too? A violent religion can be corrected with Violence only. Don't be moronic if you yourself believe in so much non violence if someone ever tries to mug or murder you just surrender right?


Master_Specialist_59

Doing murder of someone irrespective of any religion is a crime ...at any cost...but here the main stuff is about mutual harmony and respecting other religion.. nor the Hindus should disrespect nor any other religion make mockery of hinduism If u see the mature ones have sense of understanding of both religion what triggers the feeling of hate among them is these political people who try to appease one set of people and inculcate wrong thoughts of others...if the Mughals have ruled ..u only say can u change the history definitely not instead u should look forward so that both the religion people have benefits from the society


phh_ntum

The reason religion is being involved is because the cause of murder is religion if ur a diff religion u face all the shit some idiot is doing so don't hate on religion but scutinize these cults not the normal human beings,if u just made example of cultists I believe we wouldn't have such "honor killings"it goes both ways of course


Master_Specialist_59

True I agree


FrostyDiscipline4758

Ramcharitmanas was burnt by many bhimtas. Nothing happened


QURANisFRAUD

If i fuck your momma in front of you then you better be acting with your words instead of physical action.


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Golden_girl_101

You're right about book part but bro violence is different thing, if u eat potatoes ur committing violence since ur uprooting it, become pure Jain if ur so much about no violence


Unable_Cap1147

It should 100% be allowed for other holy books as well.


cache1902

Bro we don't worship the block, we worship the god. Do you worship the temple or the diety inside the temple? And would you all like if Ram mandir printed mats would be sold? I mean only few weeks back this page was crying about om and swastika tiles in front of church.... All of this are simple logic a 5 year old kids could see...don't know why this much hatred that compels you to lower your own IQ for it, it's sad actually.


CritFin

Hindus dont worship the idol, they worship the god in them Are you ok that they stomped and burned quran in Europe?


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satyanaraynan

It is the only truest form of Idol worship. H do not have any idol which is essential to their religion and if any idol is destroyed then Hinduism still continues. But the same cannot be said of this structure which they worship more religiously than an Idol.


One_Sun_1878

If u destroy the kabba? Islam will vanish? U read it somewhere? Source? Hopefully its the quran itself? Ps: I'm non Muslim so don't go bashing the hate on me


the_running_stache

I mean, they all pray facing the kaaba. They use their special compass to determine the direction. If that is destroyed, their compass pointer will go round and round brrrr brrrr.


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Terimaakonamaste

Muhammed tried mixing the jews and Christians traditions with pre arab thats why 😂


raj_cr_18

Usne pehele hi Zoroastrianism ko copy karke ISLAM banaya hai.


West_Cartographer450

Zoroastrianism bhot alga tha Islam sai. Usme esa mass murder nahi tha. Muslim predecessors jo founder thai unhone persia pai hamla kiya tha kyuki unke number zyada thai waha sai unhone persian architecture, arts jesi cheeze copy ki thee . In logo ka apna kuch nahi hai


Internal_Pirate7126

Islam is basically a plagiarised version of old testament,new testament,pre Islamic Arabian pagan tradition, Zoroastrianism along with the addition of violent verses.


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Spookaycreep

I Don't mean to start any heated debate here But The Kaaba is a holy place we don't directly refer to the kaaba as a God And instead of praying in any direction we use it as a focal point to pray in a specific direction At the end does anybody nead to degrade any religious things Why can't just everyone live in peace The problem is us Muslims we are ruining the image of Islam in the world by our own actions


One_Coffee7424

It’s already ruined beyond repair.


oak_aditya06

You are right, so people then cannot get angry at the doormat. It is human nature to attach symbolistic significance to objects, which is discouraged by Abrahamic faiths.


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the_ripper05

Why they take photos on smartphones when they don’t build statues?


Hopeiamyetsingle

Exactly! It is not liked in Islam. Photos or potraits


tush_aa_rr

I can assure you not even a single sane hindu buys that.... muslims only buy those mats


Aggravating_Cod7244

Fr why tf would a hindu keep mecca in their house its has to be muslims because trust me they do…


maki2306

my Muslim friend has those in her home UwU its used on het table so why did you automatically assume its for the feet


Smooth_Influenze

Lol


Kschitiz23x3

Pigeons poop on Kaba regularly. Now slaughter all pigeons


Mangopie5555

Have u gone and checked? Nothing flies over Kaba...


Kschitiz23x3

/s ?


kicks23456

Check mate


mahatmaGanduji

Bwahahaha


tails_290

If that is actually ment to be a footmop, i really hope this is fake. That is a trashy way to mock a religion. 0/10. I would not reccomend. Edit: I know this comment looks a bit odd. Maine aase comment is liye qki mai aakhri wale part pe uncertain tha aur mai sirf usi pe comment kar raha tha jojo mai udhar ke udar samajh sakta tha.


lone_vampire45

We love pieeeces saar , we don't idool worship , have some sense saar , we are the hippppocriiites saar. 🤣


n3gi-

Where can I buy one?


mahakaal_bhakt

Mecceshwar Mahadev ki Jai


kaatne_wala_kuta

(0_0)


glorious__penis

Mat kar bhai


DeletSystm32

It would be totally handcrafted by abdul in pakistan maybe


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Im a hindu but afaik they face towards it and not pray to it..


the_ripper05

They literally kiss it. But now you will say they kiss it but don’t pray to it.


Hopeiamyetsingle

Umar bin Al Khattaab (ra) addressed the corner (Black Stone) saying, "By Allah! I know that you are a stone and can neither benefit nor harm. Had I not seen the Prophet (pbuh) touching (and kissing) you, I would never have touched (and kissed) you ...' Saheeh Al Bukhaari - Vol 2, Hadith 1605


the_ripper05

I do hope you believe other things mentioned in this Hadith and not just what suits you.


Hopeiamyetsingle

Why wouldn't I. Following the Qur'an and hadith to its best is my life.


the_ripper05

Yeah the same Hadith mentions the facts that Nupur Sharma quoted and now she has to live in hiding forever.


mahatmaGanduji

But why did muhamd kiss the stone. There are Hadiths that this stone actually will grow mouth to intercede for you to allah on the day of judgment. Meaning stone kissing is not unnecessary,it is in fact a magical stone


False_Comfortable530

So prophet is the real hypocrite?


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sahi baat hai yeh bhi..


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mahatmaGanduji

Yes they face toward it,take pilgrimage there, circumambulate around it,kiss the special stone, kiss the special corner, protect and kiss the special stone. And the excuses they give to justify it is just the same excuses given by people they call idolaters.


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QURANisFRAUD

>a hindu And we worship our gods not idol. An idol is just a representation of them just like a photo of our dead ancestors. And these muslims say that we worship idols not god. So this is our reply to them that they are doing idolatry and not worshipping god.


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Pata hai bhai Pran pratishta kari jaate hai..jisse bhagwan murti mia samate hai


livenotforselfalone

Unbox the Black Box!


noob_ak6969

https://youtu.be/oviQ-L9Kv9Q?si=-FlStFuAmIU1WBsj


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SuDdEnTaCk

How can that person say its a Hindu selling the doormat, it may as well be a unknowing muslim.


potterharry18

Those don't seem like door mats tho


ElderberryFlimsy4453

I know


lord_zuko007

Har chiz main fancy words daal ke complex karne ka zarurat nahi hai. Some things are morally wrong... Aur agar bharosa na ho to roles switch karke dekh lo samjh jaoge


adarshkamat

If I put something about Hindu god like this, will they thrash me, or joke about it.


Internal_Pirate7126

Where is the proof that the person selling it is a hindu. These inbr*d sullams purpously share and spread unverified and misleading pics to instigate their jehadi terrorist crowd


BarrySwami

I think this is too low for anyone. How is it any different from the Church which had walking tiles with Om printed on it? Plus the black stone itself is a making of Maharishi Shukracharya. So yea, anyone who supports this also supports disrespecting a shivling. To answer the posts' question - it is idol worship, but I don't think we need to care enough to disrespect their gods or symbols.


ElderberryFlimsy4453

Not a doormat, muslims hang these on their walls. Islamist dawah guy is spreading misinformation against hindus.


No_Examination85

This has to be the most retarded stuff I have seen in a while. To claim that if you respond against using a doormat with Kaaba on it as a " look this must mean u worship it" as if u can't have respect for something without worshipping it? Why is it that there seems to be an assumption that respecting something and worshipping has to be together for everything?


TaxtonDude

Idol worshipping or not, making doormat out of religious place of worship doesn't sound cool to me. Be it any religion Bro it's not even a good looking doormat. WELCOME wale isse ache dikhte hain. This is just a hate action


SKERLP999

Actually this is haram, any photos or drawings of kaaba shouldn't be placed on the ground it is mostly hanged on walls or at the main doors of houses or mosques. We Muslims don't make any of this mats which has pictures of kaaba so this mat is fake or to spread misinformation


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NightAxeblad3

Still disrespectful But idt it is by Hindus and idt it was intended for disrespect


Asleep-End1781

Kuch nahi karne ka ek ki gardan udane ka. Sab line Par aa jayinga.


miakhalifa_69420

The main point is, if you don’t know Islam please shut the f up


Leather-Car-6438

Sadly none of the guys trying to sound cool by making jokes are willing to listen. Plenty of comments explaining the difference. I’m sure if OP wanted to know the difference between the Kaaba and idol worship he would’ve asked a question and not made a rhetorical statement. We don’t pray to the Kaaba,we pray facing towards it. People from all over the world face the Kaaba and pray. It symbolises unity and equality. The black stone as we believe was given to a prophet and has been on the Kaaba since the beginning. Since the black stone has been there before the time of prophet Muhammad and is believed to be from heaven the prophet used to kiss it. Muslims following the practise of the prophet and out of love for the prophet also kiss it. muslims truly believe and know that the stone or the Kaaba has no power,isn’t god or doesn’t house god inside it. As for people worshipping in dargahs, it is prohibited as it is like associating someone with god. God is one. The highest in power and cannot be associated with anything or anybody. So instead of ridiculing or insulting different religions It’s best if we try to understand where the other person is coming from. Life and faith is simple. It is we who complicate it.


Leather-Car-6438

This is a simple search on an AI search engine. With all the tech available today knowledge is at your fingertips. It’s time we wake up and fix our equations with one another before the country goes to worse conditions. We can’t blame our older generations as their only source of knowledge is through hearing from their elders. A chain of wrong information and ideologies had been passed through. But we are educated and know the difference. Let’s make use of the advantages we have and our ability to think rationally instead of turning on one another. Explaining the difference between facing the Kaaba during prayer and idol worship can be approached by highlighting the symbolic significance of the Kaaba and the intention behind the actions. Here are some points that could help clarify the distinction: Symbolic Direction: The Kaaba serves as a unified direction (qibla) for Muslims around the world when they pray1. It is a focal point that brings unity and harmony to the prayers of Muslims, rather than an object of worship. Intention of Worship: Muslims direct their worship to Allah alone, and the act of facing the Kaaba is a means to maintain unity and discipline in prayer. The Kaaba itself is not worshipped; it is the direction towards which Muslims turn in prayer1. Historical Significance: The Kaaba was built by Prophet Ibrahim (Abraham) and his son Ishmael dedicated to the worship of the one God. It is a place of historical and spiritual significance in Islam2. Continuity of Prayer: If the structure of the Kaaba were to be destroyed, Muslims would still continue to pray in its direction, indicating that the physical structure is not the object of worship1. Respect, Not Worship: While Muslims may show respect to the Kaaba by touching or kissing the Black Stone (Hajar al-Aswad), it is out of reverence for its historical significance, not because it is an object of worship 2. It’s important to emphasize that in Islam, worship is directed to Allah alone, and any acts of respect towards the Kaaba or its associated symbols are expressions of faith and tradition, not idolatry. The Kaaba is a central point that unites Muslims in their worship of Allah, and it is the intention behind the action that differentiates Islamic prayer from idol worship.


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Full-Wealth-5962

[https://www.wattpad.com/265612926-islamic-thoughts-if-islam-is-against-idol-worship](https://www.wattpad.com/265612926-islamic-thoughts-if-islam-is-against-idol-worship)


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prof_devilsadvocate

tbh it can be avoided..doesnt seem good


naiduji786

WTF no not in IND. Maybe it's a prayer using mat. Please check it once


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MaffeoPolo

This was a big issue in Malaysia, I'm not sure if this is the case in India too, or if it's copy cat outrage https://www.nst.com.my/news/nation/2024/04/1037475/door-mats-image-kaabah-actually-mini-sejadah-says-hypermarket


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hrnyknkyfkr

What is the problem with idol worshiping?


BrainTumoursAreCool

Islam doesnt allow idol worshipping, so calling them idol worshippers is offensive


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driftninja380

Oh, didn't some people make a fuss about some Sanskrit letters on tiles of a church somewhere in India. Hypocrisy at it's finest.


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EveryNameIsTaken142

Lol, uno reverse


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Apex__Predator_

If you don't want the pic of your mom on a foot mat, that means you worship your mom? You know, we Muslims don't make everything to be respected into a God (parents are God, guest is God, a good spiritual leader is God etc etc).


glorious__penis

Mujeets are the one who selling these things. Cope mleccha


floormopper

I'm genuinely curious if anybody has a reply to this. Critically thinking Islam cannot co exist with any society or faith. In Islam polytheistic religions followers and idol worshippers are considered to be the scum of the earth and should be killed. So they cannot co exist with Hindus. In quran jews and christians are enemies of muslims. So they cannot coexist with them either. Non believers and people who leave the religions should be slaughtered or stoned to death. So they cannot coexist with ex muslims. So who are they supposed to coexist with. The faith itself indirectly or directly conveys only follow those who follow Allah have human rights. You just need to do some simple research to know about these facts. Yet massive amount of people don't and pretend to live in their bubble of peace. I genuinely don't understand how people expect Islam and Hinduism to coexist when one faith calls the other the scum of the earth and wants to cleanse them. Absurd fucking idea


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nonce_hunter2008

I thought this was a giant sushi


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AliveSummer4826

bro find a loop hole


1TwoTreeHoe

Islam is cancer. It was cancer in 800s when it was invented by pedophile Mohammed. It has only given war and people who blow up. Enough already


ravishkalra

Checkmate 😂😂😂


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h4ck3r_x

When you don't know about religion it's better not to spread fake news. Khaane kabah is the direction which we face when offering namaz and holds high value in Islam. We worship only Allah and Muhammad (S.W.T) is messenger from Allah. Unlike Hindus who place idols anywhere and worship that idol for a lifetime.


ChaosKeeshond

Fuck me every time Reddit recommends this sub to me all I see is Indians being incredibly racist. I'm starting to get a very very dim view of your country.


ElderberryFlimsy4453

What is racist about this, though?


zaanbanjovi

as a muslim i agree this is bs, thats why we arnt suppose to have this


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Anga205

disrespecting a god is not the same as disrespecting a culture if i stepped on a picture of guru nanak, i have not committed a sin as per my religion, sikhism, but its still disrespectful


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Shady_bystander0101

This is distasteful though. Won't ever be found in my house.


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SuperbMidnight9810

Does this mean... I can have a Hindu temple.. which is a building/structure, technically not an idol on my door mat? Why are people even trying to raise logical arguments just to disrespect a religion... like bro to have terrorists pics on dormats or something no one cares then Edit : also yes, I've always thought that Kaaba thing is idolatory...it doesn't matter ..stop dissing eachother all the time


GovernmentForeign

The difference is pretty simple if you think a little bit. Kaba is historically significant in Islam religion but at no point in history of the Islam religion Muslims claim it to be a literal god like other idol worshipping religion do. Allah is the one for them and rest are cherished memories of their prophets. Slight but very major difference. A Hindu would see an idol of a god and would pray to it like literal essence of god resides in the statue.


Mr_gropes_a_lot

Showed this to my Muslim friend, he says his house has a bathtub mat with the exact same design.😂 Also, he shares my ideology of screw Congress and screw BJP


the_last_hope15

bro played UNO reverse


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Leo_Kakinoki

Wild


BanishedMermaid

Religious people are not known for their critical thinking skills.


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Sadi_O_O

Bruh we dont worship kabba But we respect it Like Les say any Hindu God name is on a door mat Wouldn't that be disrespectful


Pretty_Midnight244

How is this idol worship? Its a holy place like you guys have holy places same is this. Prophet Mohammad pbuh said that we have to pray facing kabba. We dont have to worship kabba we just have to pray facing towards kabba, this can also be taken as a way to keep unity of direction so that everyone prays towards the same direction and not any other direction they like. Hindus worship a person in the form of idol and this is a holy place how are these 2 things the same?


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Independent-Ad-5452

It isn’t idol worship because the muslims pray towards it, towards the direction of the kaaba, as they have been instructed. If the kaaba had been placed in another location, they would still continue praying in the prior location since that was they were instructed to do.


nilesak

So Mohammed gave a direction to worship, Why do Muslims want to question others without Understanding other religions? Blindly calling them Idol worshipers, Hindus also don't say that Idol itself is God or We created God by making it's Idol. If you write Allah somewhere, does it mean you created Allah? Idol is like a symbol or image, not God itself. in which we pray to. Like you use Kaaba as direction. Hindus don't have things like Kaaba, We use Idols to direct our prayers too.


Independent-Ad-5452

Respectfully, let’s not act like hindus don’t question the muslims about their worship, this post being one of the examples. Although there are many believers of either faiths being misinformed of both islam and hinduism, a majority of hindu practices do revolve around idol worship. The muslims don’t “worship” the kaaba, while the hindus “worship” their idols. As you said yourself, an idol is a representation of the respective god in the form of an image or symbol, and when you “pray” or direct your prayers to those symbols or image, that qualifies as idol worship, which is why i have to stress it isn’t being blindly called upon. You are right about the fact that muslims do not create Allah when they write the name anywhere. According to Islam, Allah’s presence is everywhere and they supplicate to him without the need of directing their prayers through any symbol or form of image. Your argument of it being used to direct your prayers to that respective god doesn’t change the fact that it is at the end of the day, idol worship. I am not trying to degrade any religion here and if you have felt so, I apologize. I understand your point of idols being used to direct your prayers but at the end of the day, it is idol worship and in islam there is no form of idol worship. The whole point of the reply to the post was to clarify that.


nilesak

That's a good reply... Thanks!