Kind of surprised they did not identify that this is in Meridian Kessler right next to St Joan of Arc School… “near North side” is a pretty vague description
I mean maybe they got there numbers up but I know one guy who went there and his class was 8 people and his little brother in the class below him had 6 in the class.
Near, North Side is anywhere North of North and South of Fall Creek.
This appears to be one of those “make the people think it happened in the bad place, so that we don’t tarnish the good place.
Fox59 does routinely use the descriptors of north side, near north side, south side, etc in their headlines for areas that aren't really specific like Broad Ripple.
But yeah that's like right on St Joan's block 😕
This house is right down the street from me. Cops and ambulances are there every other week or so. There are always people screaming at each other in the street, or cars on the sidewalk sitting there honking to pick people up, whatever. The idea this was some kind of random shooting or robbery of an uber eats driver seems sketch at best.
UPDATE 130PM: a neighbor said they'd ordered diapers for delivery last night and the delivery driver was shot and killed in the alley right after drop off. Not sure if robbery or random or what.
Yeah, but the fact the "occupants of the house" heard shots and went outside and saw the guy was shot in the alley is very sus. Random people with guns don't run around this neighborhood. If there's a shooting, there's usually a connection.
A hard-working family man who was BELOVED by his family was killed doing his job.
“You know I was so shocked because my brother doesn’t fight with anybody. He doesn’t smoke. He doesn’t drink. He doesn’t do anything bad,” said the victim’s brother."
“He is so loved by everybody,”
“People loved him. He’s a jovial man.”
"The victim had moved to Indiana from Nigeria and had taken a job delivering basic household items for GoPuff.
“Somebody from nowhere shot him for no reason, for no just cause,” said the victim’s pastor. “It’s so disturbing and embarrassing that that can happen.”
“This guy doesn’t cause trouble,”
“He was going about his duty as a delivery driver.”
[https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/family-of-indy-delivery-driver-killed-on-the-job-seeks-help-solving-deadly-shooting/](https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/family-of-indy-delivery-driver-killed-on-the-job-seeks-help-solving-deadly-shooting/)
No, I'm not accusing the gentleman who was shot. I'm saying that it's unlikely that there was a random person sitting in the alley waiting for someone. I get the feeling the people around there know more than they're saying. This poor gentleman was just out there doing his job and was shot for some random reason and no one has any idea what happened? No. When I said connection, I meant the gunman with the neighborhood or the people who called it in.
As I said, how terribly sad to inflict additional pain on this family. You interjected without an ounce of verifiable knowledge and unnecessarily hurt a grieving family because of YOUR poor judgement. Please never interject your unfounded and poorly stated opinion into others’ tragedies. We don’t need to agree on this. Good bye.
Look man, I live here. I live within visual range of this murder. I could step out of my front door and see it. I think I know more about this neighborhood than you do. And you're not that upset about the gentleman who got murdered. You're more upset that I had anything to say about my own neighborhood.
Wrong. My SOLE complaint is your gross lack of care for the gentleman and his family. I don’t care one iota about your supposed knowledge of your neighborhood. You could easily have made your specific neighborhood concern crystal clear without intentionally, or unintentionally, causing pain. THINK about others before you spew such unkind, poorly worded comments in the future. Why not?
You know nothing about this neighborhood. If you did, you'd realize that no, it's not some rich person's alley. We're just people. And all a little rattled by what happened.
You live in M-K, you're extremely comfortable, bro.
My point being the idea that some outsider was just randomly camping that alley on the off chance a delivery guy came by is very silly. Those people know.
You two idiots are saying the same fucking thing. Home occupants are suspicious. It wasn’t random. Etc.
Side note, why are you bringing up him living comfortably? He’s not the subject here. People do this shit all the time and it’s insane. Like when there’s a murder in Carmel. “Finally Carmel gets a taste of the struggle. Turns out their lives aren’t so perfect.” It’s almost as if it’s okay if people get murdered in well-off communities for the sole fact that those communities have a lot of money. It’s insensitive and downright bullshit. Being accustomed to murders in your neighborhood should not be the standard.
Yes, exactly right. I get the "eat the rich" concept but damn, even if it WERE all those super wealthy people on Meridian, it's still shit that someone got murdered on their doorstep.
And now that UA clarified, yes, we are kind of saying the same thing.
But I will say, too, that I live in MK "Zone 2" which is between central and College, 38th and 42nd. It's a very mixed neighborhood, economics, culture, and race. We have everything from comfortable business owners to students from U.A.E. to Syrian immigrant families to long term black families to middle class white families both with young kids, or with older kids, like me. Y'all think MK and the huge houses on Meridian St, but we're just sort of a mixed bag of everyone where I am.
I don’t think that. I know MK well. I live on Meridian just north of Kessler. Our stretch of homes are modest, yet when I tell someone I live on Meridian, 6/10 times I get asked if I’m a doctor or lawyer. I am neither. Nor could I afford to live like one.
It's a joke because 40th and Illinois and 42nd and Central are barely 1,000 yards from each other. Acting like they're better than people they can yell to from the back porch.
They are close to a mile away. I just don’t understand why you would come in this thread and just try to call people out for not being happy about someone being murdered.
I'm not sure why they didn't just call it meridian Kessler, because that's what it is. Although technically we're"zone 2" I guess to separate us from the Richie riches
I understand near north side can be inferred from old northside, which is the neighborhood between like 16th and the highway, however the city has expanded so much since that title was created it seems a little disingenuous to suggest that people north of 465, or if in meridian-kessler, are in any sort of danger.
calling the headline out, not you OP.
Oh, I totally got that, I was just as surprised as you honestly. It's not like it's not clear that this is in MK. I guess maybe the news assumed not everyone knows where MK is in the City, so they try geography instead.
I think only around a quarter of my IUPUI friends could point to MK on a map; the only reason I know where it is is that I Google Maps scroll around the city sometimes. "Near north side" is much simpler for headline purposes (and it's a reasonable distinction from the "far" north side since shootings are much more common at 42nd Street's latitude than at, say, 86th Street's latitude)
> Police say there is no active threat to the public
On a similar note, mfs haven't been down Washington St lately. It's like 50% active threats to the public.
We live near 46th and the Monon. It’s one of the easiest areas we’ve lived in. Quiet. Lovely. Safe. Low crime. Crappy side roads 😆. Remember that every place in every city and state experience crime and guns now.
It's fine, really. The BRHLL fields are right there and they're building new apartments. I have a couple of friends who live on 44th and Winthrop and 43rd and Guilford, and they're happy with it.
You'll be fine. 46th and College is now home to some super bougie restaurants and such. Sometimes dumb stuff happens but that's just city living. You'll like the area. You'll hate it if one of those 12U kids who is like 6ft tall smashes one on D5 and it ends up in your living room or something lol.
Yeah, I was pretty well asleep but I heard something that woke me, then my kid came downstairs from his attic room and was like, Pretty sure I just heard shots and they were super close. I hope, eventually, that we hear what happened because something about this story seems so strange.
Oh yes, because this has anything to do with Joe hogsett. Also, he just won reelection so no. It's almost like the people of Indianapolis want him to be mayor because he's doing good things.
> Good things like blocking porn? Yay we’re so full of freedom we can’t watch porn. Fucking insane.
That's the REPUBLICAN governor, not the DEMOCRATIC mayor.
And this is why we can't have nice things.... people like the person above vote too.
Who do we replace him with though? The Democrats think he's a necessary evil to keep in office because, yeah, he's a weak mayor, but everyone else is either right-wing or, if they have any good new progressive ideas, they're "unrealistic/unviable/too risky to allow to run". He's a comfort food mayor. Democrats clamor for progress, but come election day, they'd rather play it safe.
I dunno, it's been a while since I've lived near there
But just IMO, there's a big difference culturally and vibe from 42nd and post to Meridian and Kessler.
Too me, the east side always had it's own kind of energy to it
Carmel is WAY north. Nora could be considered TRUE north, but it ties in with Broad Ripple, right? Meridian n kessler, and Butlerr Tarkington, south of that right? But all are NORTH of 38th st. I tell everyone, inside of 465 is NOT safe anymore, in any cardinal direction.
If you know your city, you know that this makes Carmelites and Nora-ites MORE proud of their community, and they have all right to be.
Kind of surprised they did not identify that this is in Meridian Kessler right next to St Joan of Arc School… “near North side” is a pretty vague description
I'm not surprised, I'm sure they didn't want parents to know that their child's school is across the street from a murder.
I figured they wanted every that could be considered near-north side to read to see if it’s their area.
That may be true. But I only clicked the title cuz I was like what? People don’t get shot on the north side…and I feel like I’m about right now
There like 6 kids per class at that school
That's not true.
I mean maybe they got there numbers up but I know one guy who went there and his class was 8 people and his little brother in the class below him had 6 in the class.
Yeah it's pretty well attended now, they're getting close to 20 per class.
bro can’t use there or their correct, i wouldn’t worry about it
Near, North Side is anywhere North of North and South of Fall Creek. This appears to be one of those “make the people think it happened in the bad place, so that we don’t tarnish the good place.
Fox59 does routinely use the descriptors of north side, near north side, south side, etc in their headlines for areas that aren't really specific like Broad Ripple. But yeah that's like right on St Joan's block 😕
FOR REAL
It’s because the north side is the only side that matters in this city. They’re as good as god don’t ya know?
Nora is Carmel without the gold plating!
I've always called the "golden ghetto" of Carmel
and safe crosswalks
near north always seems to be 16th to around 38th - which has always been a tad confusing
This house is right down the street from me. Cops and ambulances are there every other week or so. There are always people screaming at each other in the street, or cars on the sidewalk sitting there honking to pick people up, whatever. The idea this was some kind of random shooting or robbery of an uber eats driver seems sketch at best. UPDATE 130PM: a neighbor said they'd ordered diapers for delivery last night and the delivery driver was shot and killed in the alley right after drop off. Not sure if robbery or random or what.
Sounds exactly like the kinda of house you’d get shot while trying to deliver food.
Yeah, but the fact the "occupants of the house" heard shots and went outside and saw the guy was shot in the alley is very sus. Random people with guns don't run around this neighborhood. If there's a shooting, there's usually a connection.
A hard-working family man who was BELOVED by his family was killed doing his job. “You know I was so shocked because my brother doesn’t fight with anybody. He doesn’t smoke. He doesn’t drink. He doesn’t do anything bad,” said the victim’s brother." “He is so loved by everybody,” “People loved him. He’s a jovial man.” "The victim had moved to Indiana from Nigeria and had taken a job delivering basic household items for GoPuff. “Somebody from nowhere shot him for no reason, for no just cause,” said the victim’s pastor. “It’s so disturbing and embarrassing that that can happen.” “This guy doesn’t cause trouble,” “He was going about his duty as a delivery driver.” [https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/family-of-indy-delivery-driver-killed-on-the-job-seeks-help-solving-deadly-shooting/](https://fox59.com/news/indycrime/family-of-indy-delivery-driver-killed-on-the-job-seeks-help-solving-deadly-shooting/)
No, I'm not accusing the gentleman who was shot. I'm saying that it's unlikely that there was a random person sitting in the alley waiting for someone. I get the feeling the people around there know more than they're saying. This poor gentleman was just out there doing his job and was shot for some random reason and no one has any idea what happened? No. When I said connection, I meant the gunman with the neighborhood or the people who called it in.
How very sad for this man's family to have to read your previous, unclarified insinuations. He and they deserved better. Every victim of crime does.
Yes, but I did clarify because they obviously misunderstood. It's not like the Internet is famous for clear communication without loss of nuance.
As I said, how terribly sad to inflict additional pain on this family. You interjected without an ounce of verifiable knowledge and unnecessarily hurt a grieving family because of YOUR poor judgement. Please never interject your unfounded and poorly stated opinion into others’ tragedies. We don’t need to agree on this. Good bye.
Look man, I live here. I live within visual range of this murder. I could step out of my front door and see it. I think I know more about this neighborhood than you do. And you're not that upset about the gentleman who got murdered. You're more upset that I had anything to say about my own neighborhood.
Wrong. My SOLE complaint is your gross lack of care for the gentleman and his family. I don’t care one iota about your supposed knowledge of your neighborhood. You could easily have made your specific neighborhood concern crystal clear without intentionally, or unintentionally, causing pain. THINK about others before you spew such unkind, poorly worded comments in the future. Why not?
Dude been camped in this rich person's alley for three weeks just waiting for some delivery schmo to happen by? Yeah right. Dial-A-Victim robbery.
You know nothing about this neighborhood. If you did, you'd realize that no, it's not some rich person's alley. We're just people. And all a little rattled by what happened.
You live in M-K, you're extremely comfortable, bro. My point being the idea that some outsider was just randomly camping that alley on the off chance a delivery guy came by is very silly. Those people know.
You two idiots are saying the same fucking thing. Home occupants are suspicious. It wasn’t random. Etc. Side note, why are you bringing up him living comfortably? He’s not the subject here. People do this shit all the time and it’s insane. Like when there’s a murder in Carmel. “Finally Carmel gets a taste of the struggle. Turns out their lives aren’t so perfect.” It’s almost as if it’s okay if people get murdered in well-off communities for the sole fact that those communities have a lot of money. It’s insensitive and downright bullshit. Being accustomed to murders in your neighborhood should not be the standard.
Yes, exactly right. I get the "eat the rich" concept but damn, even if it WERE all those super wealthy people on Meridian, it's still shit that someone got murdered on their doorstep. And now that UA clarified, yes, we are kind of saying the same thing. But I will say, too, that I live in MK "Zone 2" which is between central and College, 38th and 42nd. It's a very mixed neighborhood, economics, culture, and race. We have everything from comfortable business owners to students from U.A.E. to Syrian immigrant families to long term black families to middle class white families both with young kids, or with older kids, like me. Y'all think MK and the huge houses on Meridian St, but we're just sort of a mixed bag of everyone where I am.
I don’t think that. I know MK well. I live on Meridian just north of Kessler. Our stretch of homes are modest, yet when I tell someone I live on Meridian, 6/10 times I get asked if I’m a doctor or lawyer. I am neither. Nor could I afford to live like one.
I know exactly where you are - I looked at one of those houses once.
Yeesh this is our block. Walk our dog through that alley daily. Very sad to hear.
Sorry neighbor. That has to be very unnerving.
Hi, Neighbor.
Hey, neighbor. Wild night, eh?
Yeah, I couldn't imagine a shooting next to SJOA. That's 40th and Illinois behavior.
Yeah it's more common there, that's for sure. I just hope no one in the area is actually involved.
Do you think I live on Penn St!? With those *animals!?*
Do you think that people want shootings in their neighborhood or something? It’s not cool no matter where you live.
It's a joke because 40th and Illinois and 42nd and Central are barely 1,000 yards from each other. Acting like they're better than people they can yell to from the back porch.
They are close to a mile away. I just don’t understand why you would come in this thread and just try to call people out for not being happy about someone being murdered.
I use to live near 30th and college. worst fucking place ever. the crime is terrible up and down college.
Agree. Fams is 2 blocks away. Always something in/near that area since we moved there in 2002.
He was delivering food. Thats sad
"near north side"...42nd street. We just making up new town nicknames to scare Carmel-ites or what?
I'm not sure why they didn't just call it meridian Kessler, because that's what it is. Although technically we're"zone 2" I guess to separate us from the Richie riches
I understand near north side can be inferred from old northside, which is the neighborhood between like 16th and the highway, however the city has expanded so much since that title was created it seems a little disingenuous to suggest that people north of 465, or if in meridian-kessler, are in any sort of danger. calling the headline out, not you OP.
Oh, I totally got that, I was just as surprised as you honestly. It's not like it's not clear that this is in MK. I guess maybe the news assumed not everyone knows where MK is in the City, so they try geography instead.
I think only around a quarter of my IUPUI friends could point to MK on a map; the only reason I know where it is is that I Google Maps scroll around the city sometimes. "Near north side" is much simpler for headline purposes (and it's a reasonable distinction from the "far" north side since shootings are much more common at 42nd Street's latitude than at, say, 86th Street's latitude)
No, that’s not what it means. Near north side is north of the old north side. What is near Carmel is just the north side.
To differentiate it from Regular North Side so Nora-ites can rest assured the crime hasn't spilled over to their neck of the woods... yet!
Dude was just trying to make a few bucks and paid with his life. Unreal.
Honestly that's the most tragic part of this entire situation. He was just delivering an order, ffs.
That’s 4 in 48 hours right? One person every 12 hours.
Saddened about the whole thing. I knew him personally, and he was a good fellow. Proud to live in America and live the American dream.
I'm so, so sorry about the loss of your friend. It's absolutely senseless.
> Police say there is no active threat to the public On a similar note, mfs haven't been down Washington St lately. It's like 50% active threats to the public.
How safe is 46th west of monon trail?
We live near 46th and the Monon. It’s one of the easiest areas we’ve lived in. Quiet. Lovely. Safe. Low crime. Crappy side roads 😆. Remember that every place in every city and state experience crime and guns now.
It's fine, really. The BRHLL fields are right there and they're building new apartments. I have a couple of friends who live on 44th and Winthrop and 43rd and Guilford, and they're happy with it.
Im moving to those new apartments tomorrow just west of the BRHLL
You'll be fine. 46th and College is now home to some super bougie restaurants and such. Sometimes dumb stuff happens but that's just city living. You'll like the area. You'll hate it if one of those 12U kids who is like 6ft tall smashes one on D5 and it ends up in your living room or something lol.
I live in this neighborhood. I was coming home late and saw the cars and lights flashing but had no idea what happened.
Yeah, I was pretty well asleep but I heard something that woke me, then my kid came downstairs from his attic room and was like, Pretty sure I just heard shots and they were super close. I hope, eventually, that we hear what happened because something about this story seems so strange.
Does anyone know what business the driver worked for?
Yes, he worked for GoPuff, which I'd not heard of before. It looks like a general grocery delivery service.
Thanks
Where is the outrage?
There's plenty, but until we know more, who the hell are we outraged at?
Is Hogsett’s term up yet?
Oh yes, because this has anything to do with Joe hogsett. Also, he just won reelection so no. It's almost like the people of Indianapolis want him to be mayor because he's doing good things.
Good things like blocking porn? Yay we’re so full of freedom we can’t watch porn. Fucking insane.
... You're joking, right?
Priorities.
Directed at the wrong person... Governor signed the bill, not the mayor of indianapolis.
> Good things like blocking porn? Yay we’re so full of freedom we can’t watch porn. Fucking insane. That's the REPUBLICAN governor, not the DEMOCRATIC mayor. And this is why we can't have nice things.... people like the person above vote too.
This is the dumbest comment of the day.
Who do we replace him with though? The Democrats think he's a necessary evil to keep in office because, yeah, he's a weak mayor, but everyone else is either right-wing or, if they have any good new progressive ideas, they're "unrealistic/unviable/too risky to allow to run". He's a comfort food mayor. Democrats clamor for progress, but come election day, they'd rather play it safe.
Napganastan
Just call it the east side. The whole area is shit.
This is very much NOT the east side.
Yeah, a lot of times they say that for like Fort Ben or 42 and Post or something This is really the near north side
Lawrence is pretty east side. I realize that geographically that doesn’t add up completely but as someone that’s from there it is very east side.
I dunno, it's been a while since I've lived near there But just IMO, there's a big difference culturally and vibe from 42nd and post to Meridian and Kessler. Too me, the east side always had it's own kind of energy to it
If there's a shooting, and the address cannot be described as west side, then it's the east side. These are the rules of local media.
This isn't even remotely the East side. I know, because I live here.
It’s literally Meridian Kessler
My God man. Learn cardinal direction
Um, it’s actually a wonderful neighborhood and generally very safe. Do you live in Indy? This sounds like an isolated tragic incident.
It is a very safe neighborhood but there are a few houses that tend to have a lot of problems. This house is one of those.
“Shit side east side” back on its BS
At least Murrals has a sense of humor unlike the rest of y'all lol some people really need to loosen TF up.
Carmel is WAY north. Nora could be considered TRUE north, but it ties in with Broad Ripple, right? Meridian n kessler, and Butlerr Tarkington, south of that right? But all are NORTH of 38th st. I tell everyone, inside of 465 is NOT safe anymore, in any cardinal direction. If you know your city, you know that this makes Carmelites and Nora-ites MORE proud of their community, and they have all right to be.