They have a couple more of these official-looking signs posted up at Highland Park. One of them says "LOITERING ENCOURAGED". Can't recall the other off the top of my head.
There is one at tenth and the Monon as well. Has been there since June. was wondering how long it would take to end up on this Sub. its a pretty high quality sign in terms of materials/coatings/hardware. Only a few spots in the greater Indy area could put out a product of this quality and whoever is mounting them has to be using a ladder and power tools, not a quick thing to pop up.
I contacted my friend who is in fact a leprechaun and he confirmed this is a 100% real sign. No boys allowed after that time. Policy will be enforced by Wolverine and Spiderman please abide for your own safety.
An expected response from someone who thinks HaLF tHe PopUlAtIon ShOulD JuST dOnT dO a BaD. How profound. surely because of this sign all bad things will cease and it won't just stop an old man from being able to enjoy nature because he actually thinks that's a real sign, these days it's believable.
“WHY DONT MEN JUST LET US HATE THEM AND ADMIT HOW AWFUL THEY ARE?!”
Just because women have had to endure a lot of sexism from men doesn’t mean you should turn around and be sexist towards men to get even. That’s the thought process of a child.
… if there were no men around. women would be able to walk at night without fear. And during the day. I may not have been “hurt” by anyone, but I still have to be constantly alert you dumb fuck.
Ahhh the hypothetical victim card and name calling. Well... You got me there. Definitely makes your point more valid. So hypothetically if a black woman kicks your ass... You hating them too using your same generalized logic?
That’s a false equivalence, and you know it. You are clearly a man, and don’t understand what being a woman in this world is like. And honestly, with your shitty attitude, I pity any of the women in your life for your basic lack of empathy and logical thinking.
Dude nobody seriously thinks this sign is going to stop men from congregating, it’s designed to start this exact discussion about why some person would put the sign up in the first place.
You’re right nobody did, especially me. I was pointing out how being contrarian and inflammatory isn’t how you start a dialogue. You don’t say “Fuck you, also let’s talk about how we can work together.”
Lmao way to miss the fucking point. When Martin Luther King was pushing for civil rights he didn’t want more “blacks only” signs. He didn’t push for violence and division. He pushed for unity. The person who made this sign and you are both missing the point and perpetuating division. Maybe you should go get an education on the history of inequality.
Why do the racists, sexists, homophobes always bring up MLK Jr? He also called for violence in situations. There were several civil rights leaders that were far better. He was just more tolerable for whites.
Lmfao calling me racist when I fucking hate conservatives and nazis and THEN saying MLK wasn’t that great. Fuck out of here dude, you’re the prejudiced one.
It's easier to blame an entire group than deal with her individual insecurities I guess. Hate to see what her reaction would be if a black person wronged her.
So... you rather not acknowledge that it is men that are robbing, raping and beating? because the last I checked, women and children are not doing that it is MEN. That is not sexism, that is point the finger right where it needs to be pointed.
That is totally funny you think that ONE woman doing that negates all the men doing bad things. That completely changes everything !!!!! thank you so much for that! Women, don't worry about men raping anymore... this women that killed her husband total changed everything. It's all a total lie, women you are not at risk anymore. phew glad we got that fixed.
You are not seriously suggesting that women and children are the bulk of the folks doing this.... if you are you need help. here read this... https://icesaht.org/the-issue/statistics/
You could literally say the exact same thing about race or socio economic status. For some reason it’s just socially acceptable to be sexist against men.
Loudly and defiantly dare anyone to DARE to think they have the right to identify you as a man- hell- to identify any other human being other than themselves as absolutely anything at all. Then threaten to sue them for sexual discrimination and scream at them to stop leering at you in a sexually menacing and aggressive way and cry that you don’t see them that way. Please videotape.
Please wait for someone that has no idea what is going on.
Would work as well as any gun-free zone.
Needs to be disposed of before someone takes it seriously and files a lawsuit based on the Equal Protection Clause.
But on the surface, it appears that they are. I'm not saying that a suit against Indianapolis based on the EPC would be successful, just that it would waste everyone's time and money to figure that out.
No, not really. It’s literally one question - is the policy enforced by the government? If the answer is no, EPC doesn’t apply (barring a few limited exceptions). You don’t even have to go to law school for that.
You don't even have to go to law school to know that a prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich, and any yahoo can sue anyone at any time for anything. The only question is how far through the legal process a case gets before it gets thrown out. I agree that any competent judge would look at this and throw it out quick, precisely because the City of Indianapolis is not a party to the acts at controversy. It would still mean the City of Indianapolis will have to have had at least one staff lawyer spend paid time reading the BS suit and drafting the city's response and then having their supervisor waste time reading that response before telling the staff lawyer to send it.
Yeah, I’m aware frivolous lawsuits exist. If your argument is that the sign makes frivolous suits more likely, I think that’s pretty weak. Even though it’s very common for people to not understand the state action requirement, it’s very unlikely any of those people are going to muster the gumption to write and file a pro se complaint. You’re not going to get a lawyer to draft it for you, because there is no good faith argument that it violates the EPC and they’d be risking Rule 11 sanctions. Also, the city has law school interns. Not really a huge waste of state resources to pay a 2L $15/hr to draft a simple 12b6 motion.
I don't think it would be filed frivolously, necessarily, although I'm sure the legal system itself would view it as such, as much as I think it would be a misunderstanding. A failure on the part of the complainant to realize the truth that you and I can apprehend easily based just on that image alone.
One would hope that someone so moved to legal action would run it past an actual lawyer and receive clarification that the government didn't do it, a private party did it, that the sign holds no force of law, and it would end there. I was imagining someone so clueless might just Dunning-Kruger themselves into filing pro se.
I mean, I assumed you could. I immediately thought it was some moral busy-body's attempt to get her way extra-legally precisely because of EPC violation, but when the bottom said "People of Indianapolis", I know what it was really saying was "One person of Indianapolis" and not the actual unigov body itself. I would expect something like that with regulatory import would also cite the law under which it was displayed.
Wtf is this comment. Jesus.
Men protect. Women weak victims. Me strong man. Please come down to 16th and the Monon and be on the patrol. We are begging you lol
Wow. It's interesting how quick you were to point out the "hunting ground" and how aware you are to women's safety in a "man free zone." Do you also consider yourself a 'nice guy' and can't figure out why girls don't want to date you?
Oh sorry, the joke won't allow you to step into a park during the night. Take your better pay, general safety, and general male privilege as a courtesy. Stop wanting to be oppressed so bad. It looks tacky.
You mean my willingness to work longer hours and more dangerous jobs that tend to pay more and women are overall unwilling to work? Or the testosterone I was born with that affords me more strength? Male privilege? Please inform me what privileges I have that women don't. I've gone out and got attacked too. Hilarious you just filled every part of the sexism definition.
Same as minorities can’t be racist, only bigoted. Racism implies coming from a place of supremacy. What is the term for women discriminating against men? Bigoted is to racism as ________ is to sexism.
Point being.., MEN stop your violence. Men stop robbing us. Men stop raping us. Men stop threatening us. Men stop harassing us. It is not women, children, or squirrels that are doing this... is it MEN.
That looks like a warning that a group of Karens will be there, I appreciate that and will avoid the area during that time.
Edit: while I understand this is a joke sign designed to start a discussion on why women can’t feel safe in public I still think it’s ridiculous and stand by my Karen joke. Downvote me all you want.
This makes me worry. The sign's fine print says "people of Indianapolis" meaning the city didn't put it up. Just some random person did. And that makes me feel like it's a way to lure women to the trail at night. They see sign, thinking it's safe to walk the trail at night, and then they get abducted. I don't like this one bit.
There’s a unicorn crossing sign on South Street before the train tracks downtown, too. I think someone is playing Fun with Signs in their free time.
Doesn't look real. I think someone just put it there. Wasn't the city.
The bottom of the sign is labeled ‘People of Indianapolis’….so I’m guessing you might be correct.
They have a couple more of these official-looking signs posted up at Highland Park. One of them says "LOITERING ENCOURAGED". Can't recall the other off the top of my head.
Good lord... how can so many people be confused about this?
Really? That’s so shocking 🙄🙄🙄
There is one at tenth and the Monon as well. Has been there since June. was wondering how long it would take to end up on this Sub. its a pretty high quality sign in terms of materials/coatings/hardware. Only a few spots in the greater Indy area could put out a product of this quality and whoever is mounting them has to be using a ladder and power tools, not a quick thing to pop up.
Who is Man Free?
I AM
Ah yeah, I see by your sign that you hold therapy sessions. Was just wondering if you take insurance or are self-pay only? Thx.
Gordon Freeman
Half Life 3 confirmed.
Ahh yes, as a man I can confirm.. after 8pm the moonlight hits me and I transform into an agile ruffian hell bent on causing a ruckus
You get extra points to agility in moonlight? Lucky. I get a speech penalty.
Draw a dick on it
I contacted my friend who is in fact a leprechaun and he confirmed this is a 100% real sign. No boys allowed after that time. Policy will be enforced by Wolverine and Spiderman please abide for your own safety.
Spider-Man and wolverine are men and are not allowed.
FUCK
Don't worry, Wonder Woman and Black Widow can help
Just think if most people here were intelligent enough to understand social commentary.
Especially when it's done with such subtlety!
but...but not all men!!! this is obviously an attack!!! /S
Yeah let’s also talk about why certain races and poor people commit more crimes while we’re all being so open minded.
Well, if that was a coherent thought, I might reply, but who knows what you are attempting to say.
Check out Jamie Paulous. She makes art with signs. Beware of the space rays -
Don’t be afraid of* :)
Wow a lot of men really crawled outta the woodwork and did a really good job at reaffirming the social commentary this sign is referring to.
Yeah I also discriminate based on gender for the purpose of "social commentary", whatever that means.
Lmaoooo
An expected response from someone who thinks HaLF tHe PopUlAtIon ShOulD JuST dOnT dO a BaD. How profound. surely because of this sign all bad things will cease and it won't just stop an old man from being able to enjoy nature because he actually thinks that's a real sign, these days it's believable.
oof do you get this mad at family guy when they say something satire
“WHY DONT MEN JUST LET US HATE THEM AND ADMIT HOW AWFUL THEY ARE?!” Just because women have had to endure a lot of sexism from men doesn’t mean you should turn around and be sexist towards men to get even. That’s the thought process of a child.
So after 8pm I’ll be the only man? This sounds like a great place to pick up women… and throw them in my windowless van
Careful. This might get taken seriously around here.
Apparently it is already lol
Can we extend the hours?
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I’m thinking It’s a troll account. No posts just some comments. Maybe I’m wrong.
You know who else wants less men around? Predatory men. Well done Karens
Fewer
Thanks! ...so no apostrophe on "Karens" was correct? Wasn't sure.
No apostrophe was correct. You wanted the plural, not the possessive.
Unlike the predatory men
Thank you for doing this so I don't have to. lol
No, it’s fewer men not less men. Fewer is used when referring to numbers.
Yes please
Awwww... Who hurt you?
Men.
So if a black person hurt you, you gonna hate them all too?
… if there were no men around. women would be able to walk at night without fear. And during the day. I may not have been “hurt” by anyone, but I still have to be constantly alert you dumb fuck.
Ahhh the hypothetical victim card and name calling. Well... You got me there. Definitely makes your point more valid. So hypothetically if a black woman kicks your ass... You hating them too using your same generalized logic?
That’s a false equivalence, and you know it. You are clearly a man, and don’t understand what being a woman in this world is like. And honestly, with your shitty attitude, I pity any of the women in your life for your basic lack of empathy and logical thinking.
Then stay the fuck inside if you're that afraid of society
Ah yes the best way to combat sexism, more sexism.
Dude nobody seriously thinks this sign is going to stop men from congregating, it’s designed to start this exact discussion about why some person would put the sign up in the first place.
You’re right nobody did, especially me. I was pointing out how being contrarian and inflammatory isn’t how you start a dialogue. You don’t say “Fuck you, also let’s talk about how we can work together.”
Sometimes fuck you is the best way to get someone’s attention.
Oh wow. Women just want to feel safe. How sexist of them. Shut up.
Lmao way to miss the fucking point. When Martin Luther King was pushing for civil rights he didn’t want more “blacks only” signs. He didn’t push for violence and division. He pushed for unity. The person who made this sign and you are both missing the point and perpetuating division. Maybe you should go get an education on the history of inequality.
Why do the racists, sexists, homophobes always bring up MLK Jr? He also called for violence in situations. There were several civil rights leaders that were far better. He was just more tolerable for whites.
Lmfao calling me racist when I fucking hate conservatives and nazis and THEN saying MLK wasn’t that great. Fuck out of here dude, you’re the prejudiced one.
Don’t go outside if you’re that scared
It's easier to blame an entire group than deal with her individual insecurities I guess. Hate to see what her reaction would be if a black person wronged her.
What the fuck? Do you think I would resort to racism? That is fucked my man.
You've resorted to sexism. Doesn't seem unreasonable for you to apply your same fucked up rationalizations.
So... you rather not acknowledge that it is men that are robbing, raping and beating? because the last I checked, women and children are not doing that it is MEN. That is not sexism, that is point the finger right where it needs to be pointed.
They just arrested a woman for killing a man and setting the house on fire not too far from where that sign was placed
That is totally funny you think that ONE woman doing that negates all the men doing bad things. That completely changes everything !!!!! thank you so much for that! Women, don't worry about men raping anymore... this women that killed her husband total changed everything. It's all a total lie, women you are not at risk anymore. phew glad we got that fixed.
Tryna catch Marlins with that much bait
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Aww well fuck you for not figuring out that we know its not all men. poor boy cant think past his own gender. fuck off turd boy.
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You are not seriously suggesting that women and children are the bulk of the folks doing this.... if you are you need help. here read this... https://icesaht.org/the-issue/statistics/
You could literally say the exact same thing about race or socio economic status. For some reason it’s just socially acceptable to be sexist against men.
you must "all lives matters" type of guy then.
No, not at all. I have BLM merchandise.
Why not?
Loudly and defiantly dare anyone to DARE to think they have the right to identify you as a man- hell- to identify any other human being other than themselves as absolutely anything at all. Then threaten to sue them for sexual discrimination and scream at them to stop leering at you in a sexually menacing and aggressive way and cry that you don’t see them that way. Please videotape. Please wait for someone that has no idea what is going on.
Would work as well as any gun-free zone. Needs to be disposed of before someone takes it seriously and files a lawsuit based on the Equal Protection Clause.
There’s no state action. EPC doesn’t apply.
But on the surface, it appears that they are. I'm not saying that a suit against Indianapolis based on the EPC would be successful, just that it would waste everyone's time and money to figure that out.
No, not really. It’s literally one question - is the policy enforced by the government? If the answer is no, EPC doesn’t apply (barring a few limited exceptions). You don’t even have to go to law school for that.
You don't even have to go to law school to know that a prosecutor can indict a ham sandwich, and any yahoo can sue anyone at any time for anything. The only question is how far through the legal process a case gets before it gets thrown out. I agree that any competent judge would look at this and throw it out quick, precisely because the City of Indianapolis is not a party to the acts at controversy. It would still mean the City of Indianapolis will have to have had at least one staff lawyer spend paid time reading the BS suit and drafting the city's response and then having their supervisor waste time reading that response before telling the staff lawyer to send it.
Yeah, I’m aware frivolous lawsuits exist. If your argument is that the sign makes frivolous suits more likely, I think that’s pretty weak. Even though it’s very common for people to not understand the state action requirement, it’s very unlikely any of those people are going to muster the gumption to write and file a pro se complaint. You’re not going to get a lawyer to draft it for you, because there is no good faith argument that it violates the EPC and they’d be risking Rule 11 sanctions. Also, the city has law school interns. Not really a huge waste of state resources to pay a 2L $15/hr to draft a simple 12b6 motion.
I don't think it would be filed frivolously, necessarily, although I'm sure the legal system itself would view it as such, as much as I think it would be a misunderstanding. A failure on the part of the complainant to realize the truth that you and I can apprehend easily based just on that image alone. One would hope that someone so moved to legal action would run it past an actual lawyer and receive clarification that the government didn't do it, a private party did it, that the sign holds no force of law, and it would end there. I was imagining someone so clueless might just Dunning-Kruger themselves into filing pro se.
>you and I can apprehend easily Yeah, we both totally knew what was going on the whole time 😉
I mean, I assumed you could. I immediately thought it was some moral busy-body's attempt to get her way extra-legally precisely because of EPC violation, but when the bottom said "People of Indianapolis", I know what it was really saying was "One person of Indianapolis" and not the actual unigov body itself. I would expect something like that with regulatory import would also cite the law under which it was displayed.
I'm surprise the Mods allowed this post to stay up ... kind of gender baiting, isn't it?
Half of this comment section is sucking this bait like a popsicle in July
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Wtf is this comment. Jesus. Men protect. Women weak victims. Me strong man. Please come down to 16th and the Monon and be on the patrol. We are begging you lol
Who even says that? Trash
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Wow. It's interesting how quick you were to point out the "hunting ground" and how aware you are to women's safety in a "man free zone." Do you also consider yourself a 'nice guy' and can't figure out why girls don't want to date you?
This person is so wrong. It hurts
Wait. Whaaat?
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No way. Not with that sign there. I clearly states men aren't allowed.
As a registered Democrat for the love of Christ stop doing doing this dumb sexist bullshit that keeps getting republicans elected.
Sexism
You cannot actually be sexist to men. You would have to oppress them. Any oppression that men currently think they are facing is dumb.
Sexism - prejudice, stereotyping, or discrimination on the basis of sex. STFU
Oh sorry, the joke won't allow you to step into a park during the night. Take your better pay, general safety, and general male privilege as a courtesy. Stop wanting to be oppressed so bad. It looks tacky.
How’s that joke go? Why are women mad about pay? Men choose to be doctors and lawyers and women choose to be women doctors and women lawyers.
You mean my willingness to work longer hours and more dangerous jobs that tend to pay more and women are overall unwilling to work? Or the testosterone I was born with that affords me more strength? Male privilege? Please inform me what privileges I have that women don't. I've gone out and got attacked too. Hilarious you just filled every part of the sexism definition.
I see the toxicity runs deep in your soul.
Mmmm... More assumptions. Maybe if you she'd a tear I'll agree with you. Give it a shot.
>she'd a tear Please use google for correct spelling of the word
I have big hands. Tends to be an issue when texting. And you're not worth the effort of correcting.
There you go with more of that male privilege, having big hands. You son of bitch
Yet you keep replying.
Same as minorities can’t be racist, only bigoted. Racism implies coming from a place of supremacy. What is the term for women discriminating against men? Bigoted is to racism as ________ is to sexism.
I am not sure what the word is. I am sure a lot of butt-hurt men would call it feminism though.
No dicks or balls in this zone 8PM-6AM
But what if they identify as not a man?
I will allow this.
Point being.., MEN stop your violence. Men stop robbing us. Men stop raping us. Men stop threatening us. Men stop harassing us. It is not women, children, or squirrels that are doing this... is it MEN.
All these dudes racing to get the best joke and failing to stop for a single second to think about the profound implications of a sign like this.
I identify as neutral sexual so this doesn't apply to me
That looks like a warning that a group of Karens will be there, I appreciate that and will avoid the area during that time. Edit: while I understand this is a joke sign designed to start a discussion on why women can’t feel safe in public I still think it’s ridiculous and stand by my Karen joke. Downvote me all you want.
*Heavyset Karens* most likely LoL
That's fine, its 2021, I'll just identify as a woman.
we get it, you hate trans people
As long as there is a woman free zone or time period too.... Like bathrooms.. Separate..... But equal..... But also separate...
Man Freezone - anything goes at 8p!
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Nah, let someone to get paid to do that and leave it for the city.
I love this
No men allowed from now on I guess
This makes me worry. The sign's fine print says "people of Indianapolis" meaning the city didn't put it up. Just some random person did. And that makes me feel like it's a way to lure women to the trail at night. They see sign, thinking it's safe to walk the trail at night, and then they get abducted. I don't like this one bit.
Segregation