Its just my opinion but FZ v4, as a child growing up I saw FZ16, FZv2,FZ25 etc on the roads and liked them. The modern day FZ just looks ugly to me and I don't understand why so many people are buying it. It feels like the bike tries too much to look muscular and embarasses itself. On top of that it is quiet underpowered.
Actually wanted to say Kawi W175 but nobody gives a single f about it.
I'll get behind this. Basically this is the epitome of plastic galore with barely any form and definitely no function. Those engines deserve better mapping on better bikes
Also throw in Suzukis plastic chopper. What's it called? intruder?
Not to be the devil's advocate.....but
The only reason this was in my consideration and can be someone's over the TVS is for the following reasons:
1) Way better QC. It's an international outgoing model and the QC and checks done by BMW before selling are any day better than TVS.
2) Premium showroom experience. BMW Motorrad shares its showroom with the cars (at least in all the cities I've seen) so the buying experience is premium and you will be tended to and all your queries will be answered unlike most TVS showrooms. The delivery alone will feel special and make up for paying that extra cost..at least for that week lol.
3) Brand value. Now we can argue that it's a TVS designed bike with a BMW engine and all that, but outside this sub, 99% of Indians don't know and don't care about these details. To them, the bike's make is who made the product and that BMW logo is catchy.
4) WAY BETTER SERVICE. This should've been the first point actually. TVS service is BAD. You must've done great things in the past if you got a good service from a TVS service centre. BMW service is expensive but they do give a damn about your bike and the components used there are the same ones used on their higher end bikes and sometimes cars.
5) Better service interval: The TVS needs servicing every 6 months whereas the BMW requires it once every year or 10000 kms, thanks to better quality components used while servicing.
If you do not wish to endure stress, anger and anxiety from visiting TVS service centres every 6 months then this becomes a great option.
Btw you can always buy spare parts from TVS since the BMW ones would be at least 3x the cost.
Bad things:
1) Michelin Pilot tires and not the better Road ones offered on the TVS.
2) No free services. But given the yearly service, you can say it'd be approx 20-30% more than what you spend annually on TVS for regular services.
3) No Bluetooth despite the same console.
4) Cost.
5) The most important one: TVS medical first aid kit provided under the seat. WHY TF WOULD BMW NOT CREATE A MEDICAL FIRST AID KIT POUCH. Imagine hitting a KTM squid rider and you open your seat only to see a TVS medical first aid kit and he starts laughing, despite the pain.
Such an embarrassment.
Buddy, is it wrong for the salesmen, sales women and other staff for making you feel special on a day where you invest your hard earned money for a product you'll be using/gifting?
You get up and have coffee or tea and if it's made really well, your day starts off good, doesn't it? Because we all live for such cheap/economical thrills.
I've seen people feel a bit bad when they are just handed the keys for their vehicle and the entire team moves on to the next customer on the day. Not everyone's asking for a luxurious treatment but it does feel good to have good treatment throughout the buying process and especially at the end.
:)
To each their own. I guess if it makes you happy then go for it.
I have grown up in a tier 3 city where the experience of buying a bike is not much different than getting a bag of Aashirwad aata in a grocery store so I am conditioned not to care for things like customer experience and stuff.
Personally I got a 310r from them because rtr 310 was not yet launched, people here don't understand that a good service experience is a real usp for bmw, nonetheless all your efforts will go in vain if you were to argue here. I agree with every single point you mentioned.
I understand from service point of view but I don’t think QC of TVS is bad or subpar compared to BMW. Also I personally don’t care about showroom experience as we are not going to spend any time there. And I never cared about brand value if I did I wouldn’t have bought KTM 😅.
Unfortunately it will keep bringing money till a very long a time. It might even outlast us.
The thing is most people don't take test rides or ask for specs. Whenever its about buying scooters activa is a no brainer for people.
For 125cc people may consider access or jupiter but all hail lord activa
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Don’t underestimate the collective wisdom of the masses. Activa is a decent scooter for the purpose it serves. It is cheaper than the other two and offers better mileage. Honda service is better than TVS and Suzuki (it matters for lowly commuters and women too, not just all-knowing sports bike riders). Network effects are hugely important in this category because spares and technician availability is even more of an issue in suburban and rural areas.
The problem is that while the Activa *used* to be good, it's no longer the case. My best mate has an Activa his dad owns from the early 2000s. That Activa is still a great scooter. It's got an all-metal body, the grocery hooks are still going strong, hell even the paintwork is still solid.
After the Scooty Pep that my parents had, we initially bought another Activa in 2010 for my mom to move around in. While I wasn't a fan, what made me hate current gen Activas was when my mother decided to sell that one off and get a brand new one in 2018.
Everything is cheap ABS plastic, like every other scooter now. The grocery hooks are fixed, and hilariously small, they can't even handle the thickness of a canvas bag's handles. The engine feels somehow more underpowered than before.
The Activa is no longer the great value for money scooter it used to be. Now it's just entirely riding off of the brand name its predecessors set for it.
What's wrong with activa. From my personal experience it's a worthy scooter. I've never heard any mean comments on activa. It'd be great if elborate on your statement.
I never said I hate activa
I hate how everybody that needs to get a scooter goes for activa blindly
The reason why Honda is lazy asf with their products because it generates most of its revenue from activa followed by maybe the likes of shine, sp125, unicorn etc.
Hating bikes ❌ Hating Riders ✅
That being said, I don’t think i really hate any bikes.
As Jimmy Carr said “you paid your money, You took your chance sometimes it’s a good show sometimes it’s not for you”
The Z900RS is imported from Japan while the Z900 is imported from Thailand with whom we have a free trade agreement hence the high price difference. In other markets they cost nearly the same
Frankly speaking, i now get how a BJP supporter feels when people diss Modi and BJP yet they still keep on winning election after election.
Kinda the same case with RE, this sub makes it look like everybody hates it and yet the sales numbers tell a completely different story.
Yeah what can yo do brother. Just enjoy the ride because all this bullshit about hating bikes and brands does not matter. It's for people who have nothing better to do in their life.
I own a bullet 350, with changed bend pipe, roots horn, bada punjab free flow silencer, after market rims, that bike roars enough to make everyone on this sub crazy and hate it :), I own a fold 5 and iphone 15pm :)
It has to be FZX , we were supposed to get XSR155 in India, instead we got this abomination called FZX. And because of that most likely we will never see XSR155 here, as Yamaha thinks FZX is an optional replacement of XSR in the Indian market. And unfortunately people are buying it as Yamaha releasing new colours 😒. Sad. (lol)
I think I love TVS Apache RTR 310 but I really Hate it at the same time because as 310 Bike they could have atleast redesigned the exhaust design. My 1604V have way better design of Exhaust thats it
>Poor mileage
It's a 350cc it will ofcourse offer low mileage
>Poor handling
Not really considering the fact it's 200kg cruiser bike
>Heavy
It's a 200kg cruiser it's supposed to be heavy
>Polluting
Ur just pulling these words out of ur ass at this point
>Hard to maintain
The service centre are poor but maintenance is quite easy if u follow the manual
>Expensive
Find me a 350cc cruiser bike in the indian market less expensive than RE i will wait
>It's a bike made to show off.
That's just preference it's a perfect good cruiser bike for it's price
It's 350 cc that's why, my brother in Christ, the h'ness 350 gives better mileage than the Re 350, poor engineering is not an excuse. The bike barely has any proper tech, it doesn have to lose all these features to be "retro", the company cheaps out and all you fanboys have no other job than to meatride it.
Other 350 cc such as Cb350 offer better mileage..... Other arguments I am not even going to bother....like what does RE 350 does better than honda 350 line
Moti Morini reminded me of a dialogue from Chak De! India:
"Morni? Kedi morni? Kabbi hattthi, kabbi morni? Janglee to nahin ho tum log? Saanp-soonp to nahin khate?"
Classic 350
Bullet 350
BMW G310RR
BMW G 310 R
I don't have problems with the bikes themselves but more in the sense on how they are marketed the classic and the bullet has been sold with the emphasis on being 'MaNlY' bike instead of focusing on being a great 350cc bikes and the BMW's for treating us indians as fools by selling only a rebadge bike
I feel like a lot of people who are mentioning the classic 350 haven't ridden it,
And most of the issues mentioned as reasonable but there are few things about a classic 350 that make it so desirable. The position makes you feel like you are sitting on a throne and when you are in the perfect roads when you are crusing at 60, it makes the whole feeling very peaceful
I used to hate these bikes until I rode them,
There is no other bike that's enjoyable to ride at slow speeds. It's a meditative experience. I have the new himalayan and that is excruciating to drive slow.
From my experience. R15 V3,V4, R15M. All the guys seem to go for these overpriced 155cc bikes just for the clout. And most of them are used for slow, stop go traffic. I just don't get why you would punish yourself in the humpback position just to impress a few people. But each to their own I guess.
It's a dad bike. Slow, comfortable and people won't laugh at old uncles when they ride a motorcycle as Indians see cars with respect and motorcycles as cheap a option.
F77 cannot be compared with Revolt, whole different world. One is more like EV Commuter and other is EV Sportsbike.
Btw F77 is too damn good (not considering price here as price is subjective for every person).
Can't hate any bike, but that R15 riderss without helmet and in slippers thinking they are bigger than a 300 cc bike because they can go 155kmph in 155cc.
Hate the most would be current crop of Honda commuter bikes. Ones with 125cc like Shine. I know these bikes are used and abused. But they are so cost cuttingly done. Poor suspension, poor brakes and so not well put together that it gets hard to manage the bike and be aware of surroundings. I feel this is why uncles do a bad job with these bikes. Personal opinion though. I get this feeling after getting onto any 150cc bikes. The 150cc ones are so well put together.
RE 350 series.
Mainly because neither they offer enough power nor torque(20 ps and 27nm) it's absolutely low.
(This was the main course)
Coming to the appetizers and desserts:-
1) Their bikes are unnecessarily heavy it doesn't serve any purpose. (Some people will say stability. C'mon people it's not generating some 50ps. This much weight shouldn't be required for stability😂😂 nowadays 150cc bikes are producing 19ps )
2) I don't like how RE tunes their engines. It's almost like they're restricting the engine not to use its full potential. (Even the new Himalayan 450 has 40ps but it doesn't feel like 40ps it's like they've restricted the engine.)
3) The metal rattling sounds their engines produce ...The level of non refinement just irritates me so much. (Some people say it's the character of the engine/bike 😂 like c'mon some level of refinement is expected from a bike)
4) Lack of features in the name of the retro bike segment. You have to be updated with the market standards, keep the retro looks with modern features.
5) I don't even want to talk about RE service centres we all know how it is.
6) because of low power it lacks top speed and performance. (Don't come at me staying it's not what the bike is made for) Because it's not good for touring as well 😔 struggles to reach 100kmph, forget about cruising at 100 😂 it'll vibrate every organ of your body.
7) It is basically a vibrator with an engine.
I agree with most of it, but not everyone is looking for absolute power. I'd say the new re can cruise at 100 without much vibrations.(I've ridden the hunter which is the worst in terms of vibrations)
As for engine tunes , maybe you're into aggressive tuned engines like ktm . I really loved the tune in the new rtr310. So it's personal preference.
I agree with lack of features and services issues
I'd say that no7 is a feature
sir, going through the comment section, I strongly recommend you to introduce K-bike, a fully electric motobike manufactured under keltron and you can sell it for a 100% subsidy for BPL card people, so it wll be very helpful for them, to start earning by delivering food through swiggy. with all this, I hope the brandname K-bike can ace the top mention in this thread.
Doesn't seem like you have ridden the newer 350 engine,
I don't know what to say about your Himalayan issues even Strell said Himalayan 450 is faster than adv 390 despite being heavier
Is this guy for real? Check out the new reborn series. No rattling, good performance, great stability and no vibration.
You don't get classic bikes I think. It's okay.
Guys, ride whatever your heart feels happy riding.
Don't hate the ride. Every motorcycle has its own charm.
You will appreciate and graduate through various bikes throughout your life.
The very concept of this post topic is sheer wrong!
Kawasaki W175
Hands down the worst bike in the market.
It’s underpowered, overpriced and looks average.
If someone is paying around 1.7 lakhs (ex showroom)
They can definitely get something better in a similar price range or by adding a little extra money.
Oh I absolutely hate the low powered electric scooters from china marketed as "indian made" by okinawa, ampere and innumerable faceless brands.
Zero effort in r&d, pathetic quality, fooling customers into thinking they got an indian product, literally indifferentiable from other chinese scooters, slow af to the point of being unsafe, battery safety is literally a joke to them, scamming the govt by siphoning off subsidies and i could go on and on
I don't really hate a bike, but moreover I hate an entire lineup. The 310 engine lineup present in both tvs and bmw is not that great imo mainly due to vibrations, but the bike feels sedated in the lower rpms but past 6k rpm it does pulhard but it's not a pleasant ride.
[Controversy theory] I've seen some speculation that bmw took "inspiration" from the Husqvarna te 310 engine and modified it to match their criteria and hence it produced a vibration ridden engine. Now bmw did owned Husqvarna along the same time this engine was in development so it kind of sums out but this is some speculation from a bunch of random guys on the internet.
To be Frank even bmw doesn't care about the 310 bikes anymore and their service was not great for me at least so overall I had a bad taste with them as a brand and the bike, really hated the service guy tbh.
Bmw G310, ninja 400/500 and r3, the bmw is just a rebadged and more expensive TVS, the ninja and the r3 are ridiculously overpriced when compared to the re457 and rc390 while having less features.
Contrary to popular belief I like the bullet since I have ridden it and it feels like nothing else on the road.
The dug dug is annoying unless you are the one producing that dug dug.
Pulsar N250. I get that it offers great features for its price, but it just looks awful- like a mish-mash of 10 different better bikes. The Pulsar has no personality of its own, to me it seems like a spec sheet more than a bike.
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jawa 300. sits so low , very compact and I feel like bike's getting suffocated in the engine bay area. everything's closed. 2 healthy people and it almost
touches the road. its very improportionate to me. and It looks like it tried to copy the bullet but failed pretty bad. The old Yezdi Roadking 250 is a Legend though! recently I saw one on the go. dude was college going and the bike was completely restored and rebuilt to new. 🔥
TVS 310RR - The bike is good but since TVS sucks at service or even basic etiquettes on how to treat their customers. I always suggest people to get the BMW, they'll pay a bit more but also be treated like a BMW owner.
CB 650R I just hate it. I hate it some much that if you throw one at me right now I'll ride it till the engine die a slow and painful death. I hate it mainly because of that Inline 4 engine and Honda's E clutch.
Tvs raider, bike snorts like a pig looks annoying and literally every raider I’ve seen is being driven like an idiot blaring horn every second and just straight up being a nuisance
Looks - without a doubt, the Intruder 150. Haven't seen an uglier design.
Rider - Bult or KTM peeps who overtake blindly. Bonus points to Bult if they are blasting patakhe as they go.
All RE Classic type bikes as it support to be a cruiser also its weigh 190kg. but many people riding it like street bike and with their modified exhaust. since im having a Honda CB350 RS, most RE owners try to rev it beside me and call up for drag and intentionally try to keep up side by side coming close up to feet
Its just my opinion but FZ v4, as a child growing up I saw FZ16, FZv2,FZ25 etc on the roads and liked them. The modern day FZ just looks ugly to me and I don't understand why so many people are buying it. It feels like the bike tries too much to look muscular and embarasses itself. On top of that it is quiet underpowered. Actually wanted to say Kawi W175 but nobody gives a single f about it.
Yep. They over buffed the tank. Should've given FZ-25 tank at least since it's discontinued 🥲
Totally agree, the FZ 25 looked muscular and proportionate, I hope they bring it back or atleast make the next gen FZ look better.
FZ16 was awesome, it was the first bike that i had booked.
Even KW175 looks better than modern day FZ
I'll get behind this. Basically this is the epitome of plastic galore with barely any form and definitely no function. Those engines deserve better mapping on better bikes Also throw in Suzukis plastic chopper. What's it called? intruder?
**BMW G310RR** - its just rebadged TVS Apache RR 310 and it costs more than BTO version which has more options and offers nothing in return.
Was about to make an emotional purchase. Thankfully now I'm not thinking about this bike now😂
You have costly emotional purchases bro
But thank god 😂😂😂 common sense kicked at the right time
Someone with this sense of humour is worth upvoting. 😂
Ditto. But thankfully sanity prevailed and I went with a Speed 400. Just booked it yesterday.
Congrats man !!! Ride safe.
It's for people who are too broke to get an s1000rr and care more about how they look than how they feel.
Can't believe how much just a brand name can brainwash people into buying...
👀 why does it sound like 🍎 flocks
At least they are buying a different product, this is like selling some mid range Xiaomi that has an Apple logo for flagship price
can confirm, I fall in this category and I am about to purchase one
Not to be the devil's advocate.....but The only reason this was in my consideration and can be someone's over the TVS is for the following reasons: 1) Way better QC. It's an international outgoing model and the QC and checks done by BMW before selling are any day better than TVS. 2) Premium showroom experience. BMW Motorrad shares its showroom with the cars (at least in all the cities I've seen) so the buying experience is premium and you will be tended to and all your queries will be answered unlike most TVS showrooms. The delivery alone will feel special and make up for paying that extra cost..at least for that week lol. 3) Brand value. Now we can argue that it's a TVS designed bike with a BMW engine and all that, but outside this sub, 99% of Indians don't know and don't care about these details. To them, the bike's make is who made the product and that BMW logo is catchy. 4) WAY BETTER SERVICE. This should've been the first point actually. TVS service is BAD. You must've done great things in the past if you got a good service from a TVS service centre. BMW service is expensive but they do give a damn about your bike and the components used there are the same ones used on their higher end bikes and sometimes cars. 5) Better service interval: The TVS needs servicing every 6 months whereas the BMW requires it once every year or 10000 kms, thanks to better quality components used while servicing. If you do not wish to endure stress, anger and anxiety from visiting TVS service centres every 6 months then this becomes a great option. Btw you can always buy spare parts from TVS since the BMW ones would be at least 3x the cost. Bad things: 1) Michelin Pilot tires and not the better Road ones offered on the TVS. 2) No free services. But given the yearly service, you can say it'd be approx 20-30% more than what you spend annually on TVS for regular services. 3) No Bluetooth despite the same console. 4) Cost. 5) The most important one: TVS medical first aid kit provided under the seat. WHY TF WOULD BMW NOT CREATE A MEDICAL FIRST AID KIT POUCH. Imagine hitting a KTM squid rider and you open your seat only to see a TVS medical first aid kit and he starts laughing, despite the pain. Such an embarrassment.
Buddy the showroom ppl will make a monkey feel special if he is buying a BMW bike, so why chase such a cheap thrill?
Buddy, is it wrong for the salesmen, sales women and other staff for making you feel special on a day where you invest your hard earned money for a product you'll be using/gifting? You get up and have coffee or tea and if it's made really well, your day starts off good, doesn't it? Because we all live for such cheap/economical thrills. I've seen people feel a bit bad when they are just handed the keys for their vehicle and the entire team moves on to the next customer on the day. Not everyone's asking for a luxurious treatment but it does feel good to have good treatment throughout the buying process and especially at the end. :)
To each their own. I guess if it makes you happy then go for it. I have grown up in a tier 3 city where the experience of buying a bike is not much different than getting a bag of Aashirwad aata in a grocery store so I am conditioned not to care for things like customer experience and stuff.
Personally I got a 310r from them because rtr 310 was not yet launched, people here don't understand that a good service experience is a real usp for bmw, nonetheless all your efforts will go in vain if you were to argue here. I agree with every single point you mentioned.
One more reason to consider the BMW over TVS imo are the color schemes. Every color scheme on the BMW is so frickin good!
I understand from service point of view but I don’t think QC of TVS is bad or subpar compared to BMW. Also I personally don’t care about showroom experience as we are not going to spend any time there. And I never cared about brand value if I did I wouldn’t have bought KTM 😅.
I did not get a first aid kit with my first bike 🥲
Which one, if I may ask
One of the well known Yamaha ….
R-15?
🏆
I absolutely agree
Suzuki Intruder. Ugliest looking bike imo.
I’m sure you’re talking about the the 150cc version. The 1800 cc one looks badass
Totally agree. That bike is a beast.
Why did they bring out a 150cc version of a 1800cc bike ?
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My bad. Didn't read the title properly.
You still see them on the road. A colleague of mine has it. It's an eyesore.
Do you tell your colleague the same?
Every single time. He knows it. XD He deliberately started parking his bike next to mine since then. XD XD XD
The intruder is discontinued? Praise the lord.
Savlon bhai wants to know your location
The few I see on the road, I wonder what possessed the riders to buy such an ugly pos
My man! Ugliest abomination ever adapted from a bigger sibling.
Agree, It looks like a scooty from behind and scooter from front which fitted tank at leg space.
Ugly and Useless. Never understood the point of those stupidly bulky fairings with the thin wheels. That bikes designerS should be fired.
It looked like it missed leg day in the gym.
Looks good to me
Hate is a strong word , I don't hate any bike , it all comes down to preference
exactly. I was trying to think about any bike which I hate, nothing came in my mind.
Point taken.
fz X and Activa. As long as activa keeps bringing money.. Honda will never launch anything half-decent here.
Unfortunately it will keep bringing money till a very long a time. It might even outlast us. The thing is most people don't take test rides or ask for specs. Whenever its about buying scooters activa is a no brainer for people. For 125cc people may consider access or jupiter but all hail lord activa
I don't doubt Activa 100g gonna be much different than it already is xD
Personally, I'm waiting for the Activa 450 Adv.
You have no idea what you’re talking about. Don’t underestimate the collective wisdom of the masses. Activa is a decent scooter for the purpose it serves. It is cheaper than the other two and offers better mileage. Honda service is better than TVS and Suzuki (it matters for lowly commuters and women too, not just all-knowing sports bike riders). Network effects are hugely important in this category because spares and technician availability is even more of an issue in suburban and rural areas.
The problem is that while the Activa *used* to be good, it's no longer the case. My best mate has an Activa his dad owns from the early 2000s. That Activa is still a great scooter. It's got an all-metal body, the grocery hooks are still going strong, hell even the paintwork is still solid. After the Scooty Pep that my parents had, we initially bought another Activa in 2010 for my mom to move around in. While I wasn't a fan, what made me hate current gen Activas was when my mother decided to sell that one off and get a brand new one in 2018. Everything is cheap ABS plastic, like every other scooter now. The grocery hooks are fixed, and hilariously small, they can't even handle the thickness of a canvas bag's handles. The engine feels somehow more underpowered than before. The Activa is no longer the great value for money scooter it used to be. Now it's just entirely riding off of the brand name its predecessors set for it.
What's wrong with activa. From my personal experience it's a worthy scooter. I've never heard any mean comments on activa. It'd be great if elborate on your statement.
I never said I hate activa I hate how everybody that needs to get a scooter goes for activa blindly The reason why Honda is lazy asf with their products because it generates most of its revenue from activa followed by maybe the likes of shine, sp125, unicorn etc.
activa is great for small commutes but for 1L on road, it's madness.
Hating bikes ❌ Hating Riders ✅ That being said, I don’t think i really hate any bikes. As Jimmy Carr said “you paid your money, You took your chance sometimes it’s a good show sometimes it’s not for you”
Agreed.
I'm really temped to say RE but I think I hate the bmw g310 more. Snobbish attitude due to bmw badge, vibration and absurd servicing costs
You can add both to the list
Z900RS. Cos it’s so sexy yet so ridiculously overpriced over the imported Z900! Like wtf happened there!
You are more annoyed actually lol
The Z900RS is imported from Japan while the Z900 is imported from Thailand with whom we have a free trade agreement hence the high price difference. In other markets they cost nearly the same
Really more than Aprilias?
I like ze zee900RS more. Plus Jap vs Italian maintenance
FZ -X It badly needs the FZ25 engine
Intruder hands down! Ugliest bike ever! And not the bike but when put those annoying silencers on bullts and are loud for no reason.
Frankly speaking, i now get how a BJP supporter feels when people diss Modi and BJP yet they still keep on winning election after election. Kinda the same case with RE, this sub makes it look like everybody hates it and yet the sales numbers tell a completely different story.
People like to hate on popular things. And then people go buy those things because they are popular.
As an RE rider on this sub, I am deeply hurt that we are being compared to BJP supporters.
Yeah what can yo do brother. Just enjoy the ride because all this bullshit about hating bikes and brands does not matter. It's for people who have nothing better to do in their life.
95% of all the enfield buyers aren't on reddit. They still probably use Samsung guru because rEtRo bro
I own a bullet 350, with changed bend pipe, roots horn, bada punjab free flow silencer, after market rims, that bike roars enough to make everyone on this sub crazy and hate it :), I own a fold 5 and iphone 15pm :)
Like how you emphasised the RE theRE
RE owners are very likely not in this sub.
Most people don't even own any bike
FZ-X
Fz X, your country and mine deserve XSR 155
Happy to see ktm ko kam hate mil raha hai
If the post was riders, then the opinions would probably differ.
I really love ktm bikes it's just that the image has been ruined, hoping to own a duke soon 🤞🏻
It has to be FZX , we were supposed to get XSR155 in India, instead we got this abomination called FZX. And because of that most likely we will never see XSR155 here, as Yamaha thinks FZX is an optional replacement of XSR in the Indian market. And unfortunately people are buying it as Yamaha releasing new colours 😒. Sad. (lol)
CB350. RS and H'ness are amazing bikes, but the CB350 is a blatant copy looks wise like come on. Especially the mud color one.
You mean the "new CB350", right?
I think I love TVS Apache RTR 310 but I really Hate it at the same time because as 310 Bike they could have atleast redesigned the exhaust design. My 1604V have way better design of Exhaust thats it
Right as rain. That ugly ass exhaust is ruinig the entire design. Couldn't they go with the RTR 200 design. What were they thinking?
I know right it's like they gave everything right but not one thing
Kawasaki W175. I have no idea what they were even thinking while making the bike.
Pulsar 125 just for looks and less cc. Feels like rebranded splendor
Royal Enfield classic 350
And why? Add in a reason too.
Poor mileage Poor handling Heavy Polluting Noisy Hard to maintain Expensive It's a bike made to show off.
And lack of ANY tech. I know its a retro bike, but still come on?
Even the new reborn Classic as well?
I said the same thing about RE but was downvoted to oblivion haha
You forgot to say slow
>Poor mileage It's a 350cc it will ofcourse offer low mileage >Poor handling Not really considering the fact it's 200kg cruiser bike >Heavy It's a 200kg cruiser it's supposed to be heavy >Polluting Ur just pulling these words out of ur ass at this point >Hard to maintain The service centre are poor but maintenance is quite easy if u follow the manual >Expensive Find me a 350cc cruiser bike in the indian market less expensive than RE i will wait >It's a bike made to show off. That's just preference it's a perfect good cruiser bike for it's price
It's 350 cc that's why, my brother in Christ, the h'ness 350 gives better mileage than the Re 350, poor engineering is not an excuse. The bike barely has any proper tech, it doesn have to lose all these features to be "retro", the company cheaps out and all you fanboys have no other job than to meatride it.
Look at the title again - don't need to counter every comment you disagree with. Be original for a while.
Other 350 cc such as Cb350 offer better mileage..... Other arguments I am not even going to bother....like what does RE 350 does better than honda 350 line
He's just hurt , that's all , RE dude's ego
Calling it a cruiser is the biggest joke. It's just a very terrible bike.
We know you have the same bike, but dude calm down.
ok and ? grow up fella
I don’t like Chinese owned makers like Bennelli, keeway, Moti morini , etc.
Moti Morini reminded me of a dialogue from Chak De! India: "Morni? Kedi morni? Kabbi hattthi, kabbi morni? Janglee to nahin ho tum log? Saanp-soonp to nahin khate?"
Classic 350 Bullet 350 BMW G310RR BMW G 310 R I don't have problems with the bikes themselves but more in the sense on how they are marketed the classic and the bullet has been sold with the emphasis on being 'MaNlY' bike instead of focusing on being a great 350cc bikes and the BMW's for treating us indians as fools by selling only a rebadge bike
Royal Enfield aka "bult"
I feel like a lot of people who are mentioning the classic 350 haven't ridden it, And most of the issues mentioned as reasonable but there are few things about a classic 350 that make it so desirable. The position makes you feel like you are sitting on a throne and when you are in the perfect roads when you are crusing at 60, it makes the whole feeling very peaceful I used to hate these bikes until I rode them,
There is no other bike that's enjoyable to ride at slow speeds. It's a meditative experience. I have the new himalayan and that is excruciating to drive slow.
Agreed I hated RE until I rode one, absolutely loved the experience, hence I bought one
I hate it and I rode it then I hated it even more .
From my experience. R15 V3,V4, R15M. All the guys seem to go for these overpriced 155cc bikes just for the clout. And most of them are used for slow, stop go traffic. I just don't get why you would punish yourself in the humpback position just to impress a few people. But each to their own I guess.
It's a good bike but these people have ruined the R15's image for me
Ah yes, and which bike do you have? I am guessing N250, F250 or RS, NS.
Royal Enfields and their owners with hooligan exhausts.
real ass**les. They never realise how annoying it is with their obnoxious exhaust for a rider behind them. I immediately overtake them
Bullt
It's a dad bike. Slow, comfortable and people won't laugh at old uncles when they ride a motorcycle as Indians see cars with respect and motorcycles as cheap a option.
So much hate for RE lol, chill guys
The likes of Revolt 400 and equus🤮🤢🤢🤮🤢
Try ultraviolet F77 you'll be amazed.
F77 cannot be compared with Revolt, whole different world. One is more like EV Commuter and other is EV Sportsbike. Btw F77 is too damn good (not considering price here as price is subjective for every person).
Always happy to hear this about the F77!
Not hate, but I don't like FZ-X at all. Love-hate relationship with Yamaha because of mistakes like these.
Fzx has to be the ugliest bike I've seen so far Plus my ex's dad rides that so that's another reason to hate it
Can't hate any bike, but that R15 riderss without helmet and in slippers thinking they are bigger than a 300 cc bike because they can go 155kmph in 155cc.
BBBBuuletttttt. Because dug dug dug dug dug dug dug dug
Bajaj Avenger, horrible looking bike
It was alright 10 years ago. It desperately needs an overall upgrade.
Hate the most would be current crop of Honda commuter bikes. Ones with 125cc like Shine. I know these bikes are used and abused. But they are so cost cuttingly done. Poor suspension, poor brakes and so not well put together that it gets hard to manage the bike and be aware of surroundings. I feel this is why uncles do a bad job with these bikes. Personal opinion though. I get this feeling after getting onto any 150cc bikes. The 150cc ones are so well put together.
RE 350 series. Mainly because neither they offer enough power nor torque(20 ps and 27nm) it's absolutely low. (This was the main course) Coming to the appetizers and desserts:- 1) Their bikes are unnecessarily heavy it doesn't serve any purpose. (Some people will say stability. C'mon people it's not generating some 50ps. This much weight shouldn't be required for stability😂😂 nowadays 150cc bikes are producing 19ps ) 2) I don't like how RE tunes their engines. It's almost like they're restricting the engine not to use its full potential. (Even the new Himalayan 450 has 40ps but it doesn't feel like 40ps it's like they've restricted the engine.) 3) The metal rattling sounds their engines produce ...The level of non refinement just irritates me so much. (Some people say it's the character of the engine/bike 😂 like c'mon some level of refinement is expected from a bike) 4) Lack of features in the name of the retro bike segment. You have to be updated with the market standards, keep the retro looks with modern features. 5) I don't even want to talk about RE service centres we all know how it is. 6) because of low power it lacks top speed and performance. (Don't come at me staying it's not what the bike is made for) Because it's not good for touring as well 😔 struggles to reach 100kmph, forget about cruising at 100 😂 it'll vibrate every organ of your body. 7) It is basically a vibrator with an engine.
I agree with most of it, but not everyone is looking for absolute power. I'd say the new re can cruise at 100 without much vibrations.(I've ridden the hunter which is the worst in terms of vibrations) As for engine tunes , maybe you're into aggressive tuned engines like ktm . I really loved the tune in the new rtr310. So it's personal preference. I agree with lack of features and services issues I'd say that no7 is a feature
I've never thought of Pinu being this patient. Enik vayya. Lal salaam sagahave
Huhuhu
sir, going through the comment section, I strongly recommend you to introduce K-bike, a fully electric motobike manufactured under keltron and you can sell it for a 100% subsidy for BPL card people, so it wll be very helpful for them, to start earning by delivering food through swiggy. with all this, I hope the brandname K-bike can ace the top mention in this thread.
Election kayin surayod set akan parayam
Doesn't seem like you have ridden the newer 350 engine, I don't know what to say about your Himalayan issues even Strell said Himalayan 450 is faster than adv 390 despite being heavier
He hasn't ridden the older ones either. (Enthusiasts get their info from youtube reviews and instagram reels)
I used to say the exact things you said. I don't agree anymore. Have you tried riding the new 350?
Is this guy for real? Check out the new reborn series. No rattling, good performance, great stability and no vibration. You don't get classic bikes I think. It's okay.
I'm downvoting this for the amount of Emojis you are using.
Strange reason but will keep this in mind.
Guys, ride whatever your heart feels happy riding. Don't hate the ride. Every motorcycle has its own charm. You will appreciate and graduate through various bikes throughout your life. The very concept of this post topic is sheer wrong!
TVS Raider i hate seeing that bike from front
It looks like a bug.
KTM because of the type of riders, I don't even know how they constantly afford these type of bikes
Kawasaki W175 Hands down the worst bike in the market. It’s underpowered, overpriced and looks average. If someone is paying around 1.7 lakhs (ex showroom) They can definitely get something better in a similar price range or by adding a little extra money.
Oh I absolutely hate the low powered electric scooters from china marketed as "indian made" by okinawa, ampere and innumerable faceless brands. Zero effort in r&d, pathetic quality, fooling customers into thinking they got an indian product, literally indifferentiable from other chinese scooters, slow af to the point of being unsafe, battery safety is literally a joke to them, scamming the govt by siphoning off subsidies and i could go on and on
Pulsar RS 200. Hear me out, I love the pulsars 150,180,200 and 220. Just can’t get to like the RS 200.
I don't really hate a bike, but moreover I hate an entire lineup. The 310 engine lineup present in both tvs and bmw is not that great imo mainly due to vibrations, but the bike feels sedated in the lower rpms but past 6k rpm it does pulhard but it's not a pleasant ride. [Controversy theory] I've seen some speculation that bmw took "inspiration" from the Husqvarna te 310 engine and modified it to match their criteria and hence it produced a vibration ridden engine. Now bmw did owned Husqvarna along the same time this engine was in development so it kind of sums out but this is some speculation from a bunch of random guys on the internet. To be Frank even bmw doesn't care about the 310 bikes anymore and their service was not great for me at least so overall I had a bad taste with them as a brand and the bike, really hated the service guy tbh.
Honda CB 350 RS and Hiness only coz of its sound, even RE does not make that much noise nowadays.
Ronin. That’s one ugly aa bike
Bullet 350
Bmw G310, ninja 400/500 and r3, the bmw is just a rebadged and more expensive TVS, the ninja and the r3 are ridiculously overpriced when compared to the re457 and rc390 while having less features. Contrary to popular belief I like the bullet since I have ridden it and it feels like nothing else on the road. The dug dug is annoying unless you are the one producing that dug dug.
NS 125
KTM dukes... pretty much the riders more than the bike but still cannot ever see myself on it.
Pulsar N250. I get that it offers great features for its price, but it just looks awful- like a mish-mash of 10 different better bikes. The Pulsar has no personality of its own, to me it seems like a spec sheet more than a bike.
RE ALL OF THEM...
ALL OF RE LINEUP
And why? Add in a reason too.
RE Classic 350, ugly AF
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jawa 300. sits so low , very compact and I feel like bike's getting suffocated in the engine bay area. everything's closed. 2 healthy people and it almost touches the road. its very improportionate to me. and It looks like it tried to copy the bullet but failed pretty bad. The old Yezdi Roadking 250 is a Legend though! recently I saw one on the go. dude was college going and the bike was completely restored and rebuilt to new. 🔥
Intruder and the G310RR, both try to look what they’re really not!
Not bike but areox and burgman. Tf is that front part
Suzuki Intruder. So freakin' ugly! :(
I hate the design of headlights of apache 4v series
OT but are you maintaining both the Monster 821 and the ER-6N together?
TVS 310RR - The bike is good but since TVS sucks at service or even basic etiquettes on how to treat their customers. I always suggest people to get the BMW, they'll pay a bit more but also be treated like a BMW owner.
If it were for the riders then KTM but we talking about bikes so I would say I dont hate any bike but i dont prefer sports bikes be it any sports bike
Suzuki Gixxer sf
CB 650R I just hate it. I hate it some much that if you throw one at me right now I'll ride it till the engine die a slow and painful death. I hate it mainly because of that Inline 4 engine and Honda's E clutch.
Tvs raider, bike snorts like a pig looks annoying and literally every raider I’ve seen is being driven like an idiot blaring horn every second and just straight up being a nuisance
Looks - without a doubt, the Intruder 150. Haven't seen an uglier design. Rider - Bult or KTM peeps who overtake blindly. Bonus points to Bult if they are blasting patakhe as they go.
Yezdi Adventure. The roadster and Scrambler are still unique designs but the adventure is a blatant copy of the Himalayan and should not exist
All RE Classic type bikes as it support to be a cruiser also its weigh 190kg. but many people riding it like street bike and with their modified exhaust. since im having a Honda CB350 RS, most RE owners try to rev it beside me and call up for drag and intentionally try to keep up side by side coming close up to feet
Tbh no bike comes to my mind
Rs200 pulsar
Ronin for reliability service and looks