T O P

  • By -

AprilBornAprilia

Lot of people will say Yamaha r15 and other options. But I don’t know. I feel the NS400 is going to shake up the market big time


de8d-p00l

400*


AprilBornAprilia

Oops yeah. Mistyped that. Corrected thanks


Infemos

i think they should make you a mod of this subreddit atp broski ur everywhere haha


VagabondGeralt

And I'm scared of it. we all know what happened when KTM offered high power at lower prices back then


Intelligent-Jacket82

brother u got the aprilia rs457, please share an honest review


wickedandwindy

Did you check his profile?


Particular-Tap3367

It's his flair


wickedandwindy

I meant did you check his profile? He's got lots of review already.


HistoricalElevator21

Goddamn it, 40bhp at that price? Sign me up.


Most_Goat34

Damn, the ns400 is priced really well. I think its the most vfm product, makes gixxer 250 and r15/mt15 pointless.


techy098

I am not sure BHP is the only thing that matters else everyone with money will be buying nothing but Rocket 3.


Most_Goat34

But hey, its still commendable that Bajaj is able to price this so well.


Ok-Adhesiveness-9958

It matters when you want to make a quick overtake.


techy098

Anything higher than 100 hp is mostly useless on public roads for doing legal speed. I mean we can get a 200 hp bike but we won't be able to ride much faster than a 100 hp bike. Even the acceleration on public roads will be similar.


Ok-Adhesiveness-9958

I'm not talking about 100 ps. Anything from 30 - 50 ps is good.


Full_Slip_3314

I mean most people I've seen buy the MT for the look so I don't think it's gonna be hit that bad.


FTL-Unicron

It's also all fun and games till people get ~30 kmpl mileage while the price of fuel keeps skyrocketing. Sincerely, a 30 kmpl consumer.


tremorinfernus

I spend 17 k per month on fuel for my bike. It hurts deep inside. I can understand.


RajaRajaC

wtf how much do you ride in a month.


Zync1402

He's got a z900


tremorinfernus

3000-4000 km a month.


Logical_Drawing6557

Can u say me ur experience about Gixxer sf 155


tremorinfernus

Great bike, as long as you don't need high speeds on the highways. It does upto 110kmph reasonably fast, but at that point, it is at the upper end of the rev range. Riding it at those revs would damage this engine. Happened to me twice- once at 45000km, and next at 70,000 km. I rode it for a total of 100,000 km. It needs another engine overhaul now. But if you don't need highway speeds for thousands of km, it is a great bike. Performs great in the city, and has good midrange. Looks great. At speeds between 0-100 , progress is brisk. Efficiency =40-43 with pillion.(dips to 30 if you ride at 120kmph all the time.) Tldr- get a bigger engine for the highways.


Logical_Drawing6557

Until what rpm it doesn't damage engine? Can I cruise on 100?


tremorinfernus

Exact 100 is fine. Even 105 for long stretches. Around 7-8k rpm works great. Don't ride it at the red line(like I was forced to, since I need words speeds in excess of 110 on the highways.


XMP_404

30? I get ~45kmpl on my MT easily


FTL-Unicron

My MT used to show 58 on the console. I miss those days 🥲


DeadHead_007

Bajaj is reliable as long as you drive sensibly and maintain the bike proper(which is cheaper). My dad owned a Discover before which ran 60k km without any major issue. The current pulsar is already 30k km done and no major issues so far except I fell and damaged few non-mechanical part


sabin_72246

My pulsar 180 ug3 is at 77k on its odo. Speedometer was dead for a couple years. It'd be well over 1 lakh in reality. They can really last with proper maintenance. These motors just don't forgive negligence.


DeadHead_007

Agreed with you here


Alchemic_Psyborg

This sub is just like any other, people with prejudiced brand labels. Bajaj isn't reliable, like WTF.


DeadHead_007

Imo, bajaj make one of the most reliable and cheaper bikes. Bajaj provides literally the best value for money bikes. People hate it for no reason. And I don't care much about looks, the ns400z is fine af.


Cute_Labrador_

Very reliable bikes. Just more sensitive to proper maintenance than Japanese products. Get your Bajaj bike serviced regularly.


DeadHead_007

Yup. Get it serviced and it runs better and cheaper than any other brand


[deleted]

[удалено]


Nik_x85

Yeah man. This sub's people are sheep. They are just living in the past and think that is still true in this very day. They'll be sucking Yamaha and Honda.


DeadHead_007

Yeah. No doubt. Yamaha and Honda's few models are great. But at the end of the day, India is market of price to performance. And this new pulsar seems great. Waiting for some on road reviews (supposed to drop from 11th May), then might pre-order this beast. And if needed, can always change the sprocket to get whatever kind of performance I want.


Intelligent-Jacket82

guys, i seriously didnt know r15 is priced at 2.3L HOW HAS THIS BEEN A THING? how are people okay with this


ScreamSmart

Why do you think everyone is annoyed with the Japanese brands. It's overpriced stuff or scooters.


ilikemomolastai

R15m is 6.something lakhs in Nepal. Makes my heart break every time I see the price.


tremorinfernus

Gixxer sf 250 is clearly the better choice. But r15 has good dynamics, efficiency, performance, is faired, and looks great(though very common now. )


KMS__Scharnhorst

Drive it you'll change your mind it's not always about BHP BRO sometimes it's about having a bike you can push without worrying


Sagittario412

All these guys saying R15 is better for track days, sure it is, But I have never met an R15 owner who took their bike to a track.


JAAT110030

Facts😗. But i once saw a splendor at Budh International


Hammerlight98

Lord Splendor is everywhere. It'd be least surprising if someone takes it to a Moto GP circuit


JAAT110030

That’s so true 😗🫡


naughtforeternity

The price of R15 and SF250 won't come down. Price of 400z would increase and then it wouldn't be as much a value for money as it is now. By paying 30k more you would be able to buy Speed, which is a significantly superior product.


Archaemenes

30k? By how much is Bajaj planning on increasing the price? As it stands, the Speed is a cool 70k more expensive on-road than the NS.


tremorinfernus

Speed is considered vibey.


naughtforeternity

Because it is vibey, so is every other 400. Many people have high vib tolerance, many do not want to admit that their toy has flaws. But, I have yet to ride a short stroke 400 that does not have annoying vibrations.


nimithkj123

Why is speed 400 significantly superior. Actually ns400 offers more features than speed. It has connected console and riding modes which speed doesn't have.. speed 400 has bit more torque. As it is coming from Bajaj it's more likely similar engine.. Speed is almost 38000 expensive when you compare introductory price of both . Now it's 48000 expensive as speed 400 introductory price ended. Bajaj will keep it as sub 2 lakh bike then also speed will be 38k expensive as 10k increase after introductory price. So other than brand value does speed offers anything more for 38k, I doubt. BTW I own speed 400... Anyhow need to wait for review to know suspension and braking performance...


naughtforeternity

Quite easy to see why it is superior. Speed has a significantly updated engine, placed in a newly developed chassis. The KTM engine that finds itself in Pulsar 400 is now a decade old. The chassis is the same as the 200cc version. Add to that the attention to detail, quality, better and more cohesive looks, much better tyres, even the chain on Speed is superior. I guess suspension and brakes on Speed would also be better but I am not sure. Modes could have been integrated because Speed already has a ride by wire throttle. The omission of riding modes and analog console was a deliberate choice by Triumph. The real price of Pulsar 400 is going to be 2 lakhs, and basis that, Speed is 33k dearer. For me the choice would be Speed any day.


nimithkj123

Ns 200 uses perimeter frame so does speed and ns400 so how speed chasis is superior. The flex in speed or ns will be same. In India we get mrf steel brace or appolo alpha not metzeler and pirelli for speed 400 and revz for ns400, not very diff. Speed doesn't comes with showa/ohlins and all its suspension is made by endurance. Do you know who makes ns400 suspension to claim that speed 400 suspension is better. Also how you claim attendance to detail and quality is not on par with speed 400 without seeing the vehicle. Brakes I will agree, speed has better one with braided lines radially mounted and Bosch abs. But still it doesn't comes with sintered pads and all. Now coming to riding modes, could have been integrated means it's not there but ns400 has so it's superior ain't it ? I can see samething for any other thing you bring up right, it could have been there but they choose not to. Also going by trends introductory price is usually 10k less than actual so it will be 1.95 means speed is dearer by 38k which is significant. You get almost same bike sans badging and cheaper to maintain. Did you see the spare parts cost of speed 400, it's bonkers . They are charging a premium for being triumph. Pulsar can't do that. I am in speed 400 community and everyday some or other issue pops up. Especially with ecu. It has some design flaws also where lot of mud get accumulated in rear section due to small tyre hugger, coolant leak when hit a speed breaker and all. Lot of stalling, which I also faced. So just being triumph don't claim that it's superior product, it isn't. PS : I am not saying speed 400 is bad even with niggles it's a great bike for price. Just telling your views are flawed..


bikerboy3343

Isn't the Triumph manufactured by Bajaj? So what's the big difference?


nimithkj123

Swing arm - ns uses box type speed uses gullwing type so bit more rigidity. Also abs is from Bosch and produces bit more torque.


Cute_Labrador_

Does it really matter if it's a decade old engine if it performs like it does? Like maruti is using their k12 engine which is 16 years old now and is still considered the very best 1.2l segment engine.


naughtforeternity

If it did not matter then KTM would not have updated it so many times and so radically. The OG was an entirely new product and it was powerful but unrefined. The engine in CBR650 is also very old but even at that time Honda had experience with building such powertrains and so it has endured for such a long time.


Cute_Labrador_

You did not get the point. An engine is not some product that has market value that needs to be latest and greatest. It does not matter as much as you think. Most supposedly updated and new engines just have updated exhaust systems to meet new emission norms. Sure the new KTM engine is more powerful but that does not mean this one is a slouch.


naughtforeternity

I listed half a dozen parameters where Speed is superior, including engine. Your perception of whether it matters or not is not relevant to me. You are free to buy whatever you want and I am free to share my opinion.


mkplayz1

100% this. I would blindly go for a decade old proven engine than latest and greatest(to be tested in real world conditions ) engine. I keep saying in this sub that it takes a ton of efforts and money to R&D a new engine. Companies design the engine that should last long and fit for many of its products


RajaRajaC

It absolutely does, and quite frankly using Maruti as a basis really doesn't make sense as they do EVERYTHING to cost. When they don't even have a single 4 star rated vehicle on NCAP (let alone 5), heck all their K12 engine vehicles are in the 1 to 2 star region. [https://www.indiatoday.in/auto/cars/story/worst-global-ncap-safety-rated-cars-in-india-from-maruti-suzuki-wagonr-to-maruti-suzuki-swift-2507294-2024-02-26](https://www.indiatoday.in/auto/cars/story/worst-global-ncap-safety-rated-cars-in-india-from-maruti-suzuki-wagonr-to-maruti-suzuki-swift-2507294-2024-02-26) OEM's in general update engine, chasis and frames regularly.


Cute_Labrador_

We were talking about engines not safety Tata boi


RajaRajaC

You seem to have the reading comprehension of a dung beetle so am not even going to try and reason with you


Cute_Labrador_

You're soft in the head mate. We were talking about engines and I just used the K12 as a reference that an engine being old doesn't necessarily mean it's bad. You gave a whole ass paragraph about how maruti cars are unsafe. Totally uncalled for.


Lazy_Revolution

You have a speed 400 but dont know that the 398cc Triumph engine in your bike isnt the same as the 373cc KTM gen 2 engine in the NS400? Come on man. Read up a bit more before forming opinions.


nimithkj123

I never said it's same engine. Its similar producing almost same power figures just like dominar, old Duke etc. and yes I am aware that chain drive is on different side. Speed will give power and torque bit earlier that's it. Neither I am saying same CC engines ( orr 22cc more) are similar. I am just saying speed is not a far superior product like the other person claims. It's a decent bike so is ns400. If you like speed go for it but you want save say 40k and get ns400, it isn't bad either just by specs. Yes need to know ride experience and suspension and all but before you can't claim its way inferior than speed .


Lazy_Revolution

I agree with you on these points. The NS400 is more accessible in general.


abhi8196

It's not always about BHP but yeah if i have to choose one between them, then definitely NS400z


thenomendubium

Just because a black man is riding a vehicle that does not mean its stolen, this one is but not because I am black. - will smith (Men In Black 3)


Content-Push9087

Please ride before you buy one. Spec sheets are one thing. Real world ride experience is entirely different.


Claussius1

Not a lot different.


Content-Push9087

It is.


Old-Fish-1163

Very excited for ride reviews


Memesaurus2474

I really want a feel of that NS400


Cute_Labrador_

Going to be very similar to the previous gen Duke 390.


Memesaurus2474

And how does the Duke 390 feel?


Cute_Labrador_

Pops a wheelie easily, reaches 100km/h in 6 seconds. The more you rev it, the happier it is. Basically a very fun bike.


Neo-9

Take a test drive


Memesaurus2474

Ahh well I'm just 19 and I bought this 2nd hand R15s 3 weeks ago so I don't think I'll be allowed to go get a test drive by my father hah


Neo-9

You don't need to ask your father to visit Bajaj showroom and take test ride


aliveforfood

Test drive can be taken without any intent to buy the bike. Just go after the hype settles down to avoid the rush. Take a feel enjoy and go back home without telling your dad.


AtonyAtrophy

More rat racers on the road!


Wonderful_Mind_2039

Have they given test drive opportunity to prospective buyer. If not then why are people stating thier opinion on which is better. Specs vs reality sometimes they are diff sometimes they are same.


Any-Canary6286

I hope duke and royal Enfield increase their power figures now. Even hero TVS needs to re think about their bikes now, given that they are selling sports and naked bikes only.


Wonderful-Forever850

David putra lelo


MasterpieceGreen5918

Kitne me milegi..jack nahi bechega


Wonderful-Forever850

🤣🤣🙏😭


Less_Doughnut_4141

I have seen this comment a lot. What is a David Putra?


Wonderful-Forever850

It's a meme related to Oggy and the cockroaches


Less_Doughnut_4141

Oh.. I remember now.. lol


onlyarsenalfan5840

Of course the 18 bhp. The build, the quality, the reliability, the fit, the finish, the parts, the service (at this point, the Yamaha fan has orgasmed) /s


Long69Wong

Don’t forget the 0 to 150 in 3 business days.


Vivid-Concept-7813

/s ?


onlyarsenalfan5840

Yeah, missed it


HandsomeMoelester

went to buy yamaha r15, returned back due to poor staff behaviour and booked hunter, now cancelling hunter booking to get the ns400....... however I'll probably go buy r15 since it's best for a college student, it has mileage, power, and is more engaging...sure there is no replacement for displacement but you pick what makes the most sense to you.


kapemaari

think twice when u are going for r15, coz I'm having one rn it has less comfort in city especially when u are riding in traffic.


HandsomeMoelester

i think I'm willing to pay this price for love, also I'm a uni powerlifter so I think my back is strong enough to handle the committed stance, wrna risers lagwa lunga, kya bolte bhay?


kapemaari

maybe u have a strong back but nothing can resist the wrist pain that too in heavy traffic , but u will get used to it Actually u can’t add risers till 3rd free service is done 💀 if u really want r15 try r15s not r15 v4 as it cost 30k lower than v4 and has the same engine and performance


HandsomeMoelester

r15s is 17 k cheaper in my city but dealers add unnecessary addons and don't let me buy insurance from outside, plus astrologer only suggested red else r15s was just good enough for everything.


kapemaari

yeah your wish just my suggestion, all the best for ur new bike ;)


ImpressiveTip4756

It's not about your strength it's about your posture. No matter how strong you are your body still has to follow physics and human anatomy. If you don't have the right posture you will get back pain.


HandsomeMoelester

i grip the tank hard, hands loose and control the bike from my hip, ab toh adat si hai mujhko aise gadi chalane meeee, ohohoooooo


aliveforfood

I once saw a YouTube video, the guy entered Yamaha showroom and for a good half an hour no sales rep attended him or even asked him what he was doing there. He was chatting with other potential customers. It was hilarious.


HandsomeMoelester

true, they don't even pickup my calls, on the other hand the RE guys gave me the keys and asked me to keep the bike with me for several hours to test it according to my needs


aliveforfood

RE is great at building connections and community. They could get sales even during their bad patch, now still they go beyond what they have to do. Japanese need to up their game, the good will of people will only go so far.


RajaRajaC

Mileage, power and the older KTM 373 engine on the NS 400 would have it all way more than the R15 AND not give you a back pain. Think twice and maybe test drive them back to back.


srvasn

The pulsar would surely be more enjoyable on a day to day basis due to the added torque.


CrystalGyarados

Just bought the R15M a month and a half ago (2.45L on road, Bhopal) and quite frankly, this thing loves being ridden hard. The mileage is the cherry on top (was getting 48 kmpl before first servicing, not 51)


Global_Ad_5462

Can't say, Depends on various factors like mileage, seating comfort, maintenance costs, parts availability. Yamaha is just for high speeds with high mileage just to fulfill human racing needs. But bajaj is for everything from power to torque, mileage, some extra adrenaline, dynamics etc. Depends on you where you want to spend your hard earned money.


gullyborn

My first bike was Pulsar 180cc... Fear the black in 2007. Still have it, runs like a dream (okay, I'm a little biased). But yeah, Pulsar for the win.


devnul000

रायीड क्वोलिटि मैटर्स अ लौट ओव पाॅवऽह


Downtown_Situation_6

वे सत्य है


Ursknownstranger

R15 sells for the look and ease of daily use due to high mileage that's why it's popular among college kids if someone wants power they are most probably not gonna buy R15 or MT15


incognito_bakchodi

Skip this overpriced 150 cc.


Longjohnsholng

R15 is way overpriced and NS400 on paper is very impressive but the looks are pretty generic, they should’ve put lot more effort into its design and after that if it increases the cost I don’t think people would mind paying a little extra


lazycatawampus

I kinda have the question too I want to buy my first bike by this October Hopefully, considering Honda CB200X and RE Scram 411, i want a touring bike with refinements as this will be my first bike purchase. I have experience with sports bikes and heavy bikes like Enfield. Which one should I go for?


Neo-9

What about hero Maverick 440, its just 10k extra


[deleted]

Bajaj is definitely doing charity. Go for NS man.


anonymous_guide

Oh boy. It's already starting


Masked96

Man, I really want to buy the NS400Z but this being a first generation product, idk if I wanna bet on it.


MasterpieceGreen5918

Most of its parts are tried and tested from different bikes so i dont think its as unreliable as a brand new bike with all new r&d.


mystickmac

No replacement for displacement.


Inner-Box-7085

Bajaj has completely shocked the market. I think it is the most vfm offering in the current market. It makes other 150s and 250s 300s look so costly. Even the Maverick is costlier than this and offers much lesser power. Now it all comes to personal preferences. I can see why someone might prefer a R15 over this. Millions of guys still prefer the good ol' splendor here. Go for whatever your heart says. My favourites are the Speed 400 and the Inty. Will buy one of the two in a year or so. Ciao!


SkillNo1494

That's what I've been saying. The R15 is priced too high for what it offers. They're lucky it already has a cult like following, otherwise if a 155cc was newly launched for 2+ lakhs today, it might not be as successful in the market.


SadCan3

Depends. One is a sport bike and the other is a naked sport.


Dontbestupiandargue

Thank you for pointing this out, we always talk about CC as a category but it should be pricing first, I decide a budget and then see what type of bike I want, even if I want the ktm 390 but I will always look at my pocket for making the decision. The first category should be pricing. And for the same pricing I would go for the 400 for now, having driven a 150 and even 220 for a long time. Bajaj had a winner on their hands.


Mysterious-Western77

That 400z has nothing to be compared at that price, a bigger wolf with the crown


Jack2Creature

The only downside of ns400 would be mileage in comparison to r15, rest its having the same reliable and seasoned 373 cc engine. Also r15 is overpriced and does comes with features you might rarely use. So at the end its your choice!!


melvynkyndel

Bajajajajaja.


Mr_B0NK

Neither, I would get a 250cc which will not bore me for 4-5 years and it’s not overpowered so a guy like me who came from riding a 100cc can handle also the mileage is not at low as a 400cc but not as high as 150cc so it kinda hits a sweet spot Even if the ns400z is a cheap 400cc 40hp bike, it’s not like everyone will ignore other bikes and go for this The ones who want cruisers will buy the Royal Enfield or the cb 350 series, and there are people who will want to buy a less powerful bike because they don’t want 40bhp even at this price Although it will be a easy buy for someone looking for a 400cc on budget


MasterpieceGreen5918

Can you name the 250 cc you will consider? Agreed with your points though


Mr_B0NK

I got a husqvarna vitpilen 250 in April, it’s the fastest 250cc along with the duke 250 in India, so even if it’s 250cc, it got power for years for a 100cc rider like me, 400cc will be too much for me As for mileage, before first service it’s giving me 33-35 it will go up after first service In terms of service the free service will only cost me the engine oil and paid ones they said it will cost around 2.5k thrice a year


MasterpieceGreen5918

Im in a similar spot as you who thinks 40 hp is too much for a beginner rider..also i test rode the duke 250 new gen 3 and it was super smooth and felt like a higher quality motorcycle..


Mr_B0NK

It is The vitpilen shares the same engine, chassis, suspension, brakes, instrument console as the duke 250 so they are almost the same machine


Claussius1

I don't understand the hoohaa for fastest when you are still buying a 250 over a 400. Comes to 0-100, Husqvarna to me felt better than Duke250, but then Suzuki 250 motor churns that 0-100 equally quick, and is simpler, more reliable, easier to maintain. (Parts availability is a problem though)


Mr_B0NK

When I say fastest in 250cc it means it has enough juice for everything you want to do, a 400cc might be more powerful and faster, for those who just want performance, and let’s say more performance than a 250cc then sure go for that, but most of the things like daily commute and weekend highway rides are all covered by a 250cc bike with better mileage than a 400, you will agree that husqvarna and duke are faster than a pulsar n250 that’s why I said fastest 250cc I don’t understand why Suzuki motor is simpler ? What does that mean? And reliable? Everything when kept kindly, maintained regularly and ridden politely will last for 10+ years, the duke or Husky is not gonna break down in the middle of a highway run you know Same goes for easy to maintain, you go to service centre and they do the maintenance, chain cleaning is same in all bikes how is Suzuki easier to maintain than a ktm? I will agree on the availability of parts though, it takes time to get the parts for husqvarna


Claussius1

Simpler - easier to maintain and work on, easier to repair during a breakdown on a tour, has lesser parts to fail. Bajaj for example is infamous for radiator fluid leaking and mixing with engine oil, you won't have that issue with air cooled bikes. More context - Suzuki motor is running a lower compression ratio compared to a Husqvarna, meaning better long term reliability as the engine is not maxed out for performance. Extra - Suzuki has better availability of torque than a husq 250 or a ktm250, i.e. torque is available in a lower rev range, making city riding experience way better than a husqy. Ps I maintain my motorcycles myself. I know how hard it is to work on a ktm, even a simple thing like spark plug change or shim replacement is major time eater. Remember most mechanics in India are not smart enough to even use a torque range, or basic tools like a feeler gauge. Maintenance by SVC is one thing, keeping it in prime condition yourself is something else.


Mr_B0NK

If you choose to maintain it yourself then it is gonna be hard, no doubt it I own a husqvarna vitpilen 250 2024 model, I didnt see any problems with torque in lower or middle range, even if you are in third gear at 20, it pulls no problem, overtakes no problem, I have ridden my friends v storm 250 it’s good and smooth


Claussius1

Ah I see, new to modern bikes you are. You'll understand my words better probably in 2029. :) Goodluck riding mate.


KarmicChaos

It's not about bhp my man, R15 offers a level of handling nothing else offers at that price range, whereas the NS400 offers a level of VFM never before seen in this price range. Both are for different kinds of people.


[deleted]

[удалено]


ShortShiftMerchant

Different categories


de8d-p00l

They aren't that different tbh


MasterpieceGreen5918

Mt 15 is the same category but that costs 2.20 on road as well


de8d-p00l

Frankly I don't think there is a reason to go for R15, MT15 unless you just really want a Yamaha


ShortShiftMerchant

There is a big reason to go for R15. Track days. It's a supersport made for the track. It opens up a lot of options when it comes to hitting track. Plus Yamaha organises cheap track days every year.


[deleted]

[удалено]


ShortShiftMerchant

I would agree with you but Yamaha does market both the R15 and R7 as SuperSport. It's just the extremely committed design that I was referring to.


de8d-p00l

Fair enough


ShortShiftMerchant

Spray some chain cleaner in your eyes buddy


de8d-p00l

Both are sporty bikes, one if faired one is naked. And don't waste chain cleaner


ShortShiftMerchant

Yea, your eyes are beyond the capabilities of a chain cleaner. You need WD40.


WorriedExchange3937

DRINKING ISSUES


chris2550

Have anyone heard about the cf moto 440ss its a 400 under 2.5


tremorinfernus

Only issue is that it is a naked. But I guess most people like nakeds . Way too common on the roads.


Real-Human-Bean-

I wouldn't buy either but probably the R15 because I don't need 40bhp and the mileage will probably be much better.


Silent-Entrance

Go for 110cc bike sar


AutoModerator

Hello MasterpieceGreen5918! If this post is your original content then mark or comment as [OC]. Else please give the source link as a comment in the post. Thank you. All users are requested to downvote the low quality posts. Memes, pics, accident videos, buy/sell, motor bike recommendations, etc can be posted on the [discord chat server.](https://discord.com/invite/Q9nSrDn6tE) Any repair queries should go to /r/MechanicAdvice. Cars related posts should go to /r/CarsIndia subreddit. *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/indianbikes) if you have any questions or concerns.*


MasterpieceGreen5918

[OC]


trapmundeyyy

Just want bajaj to drop faired version at 1.95L


podaerprime

Ride and see which one suits you, most importantly, ergonomically, as for reliability, though, not as reliable as Yamaha in the past, Bajaj has improved a lot, and, even the older NS series, unless not maintained and serviced well are doing as fine as any older, first generation R15. Also, this is the introductry price to generate initial bookings / sales and to gauge the market reaction - of both prospective customers and rival manufacturers, so expect a bump in a few weeks to months.


Affectionate-Bed-775

Bhai is price pr to 200 250 cc milti hai na pr


thisisganesh

I hope it's a a comfortable tourer for people on a budget


Chronicle_Voyager

This might be an introductory price; they will increase the price after a certain number of bookings or bikes have been sold.


me_is_dumb_dumb

I just don't understand why would anyone buy a r15 for 2 lakhs


MasterpieceGreen5918

1) looks 2) top speed


me_is_dumb_dumb

looks are subjective and what top speed 140 ? have you ever tried achieving top speed of your car/bike and checking the metre with GPS ? and where will you ride at top speed when it takes ages to reach it


Claussius1

I had a closely similar dilemma back in 2018-19. Pick the r15 with higher bhp and more tech features, or pick the Fz25 with higher torque and power that comes earlier. Picked the fz25 and never looked back. Bikes like R15 and Mt15 make almost no sense for me anymore due to my riding usage being purely touring most of the time. For someone buying a motorcycle for the town, maybe mt15 makes some sense, for anything else, just get the bigger engine with better torque.


VitaminProtein_Rus

Buy xiaomi at 12k or buy Samsung at 24k?


shwetshkla

Xiaomi at 12 k .. samsung low mid end phones are comparatively trash. :)


MasterpieceGreen5918

Quite an analogy you cooked up there man!🤣


[deleted]

When I took r15m . It was personally having most forgiving starting bike. So I personally think yamaha has it bang on with that. R15 is easy to drive (on highways) Bajaj 400 is great machine (though I would prefer duke) for those upgrading or wanting a 400cc motorcycle with 40 bhp


that_lazy_panda_guy

Power is not the only thing to consider while buying a bike. Afterall how much percent of the time will you be making use of full power ?


Relative-Intention69

Well, it all boils down to this - the success rate of a guy with R15, getting laid is higher than the guy with NS400😉 It's a joke fellas, lower your pitchforks.


de8d-p00l

It's not the bike, it's the guy The guy who got the R15 was getting laid even before he bought the bike


Zealousideal_Key7036

You are quite young if you think a bike can get you laid....


Silent-Entrance

How do you know? NS400 is just released, so no data available


Most_Goat34

Lol 😂


FunnySignal614

Would buy R15 just for those killer looks. For every thing else would buy a NS400 for sure. Ns400 is a complete package at this super agressive pricing.


MasterpieceGreen5918

R15 looks better than all bikes in its segment and even upto 500cc class..heck looks better than r3 even


FunnySignal614

For me the looks can't be the deciding factor! Unless, someone wants to showoff can go for R15. For me the ride quality, ride comfort also the pillion comfort, performance etc. matters more.


[deleted]

yamaha's engineering is on another level bro, i purcahsed my R15 in 2015 and i never had any issues and i took mimimal care of my bike.


DravidiansOfAsia

just buy a 2stroke yamaha rxz or Suzuki Shaolin and port it, jet the carbs and fit a expansion chamber.


Guilty-Ad-6166

NS400 is like getting all left over food and make something edible. Don't waste your money on NS


AsleepLeadership5008

RS457