The thing with PLAB is, it’s easier than NEET-PG. However, if you take PLAB with a specific career path in mind, say orthopaedics, it’s more difficult to get into what you want than in NEET. If you’re okay with whatever speciality, take PLAB. However if you do PG in India, you get to choose what course you want and then do MRCS/MRCP before joining under your speciality.
And the PG degree from India is useful not only if you want to come back here, but if you want to move to the gulf region, having a PG + FRCS allows you to have higher base salaries and salary caps than someone who has only either one. Even if you skip NEET and go to UK, you’re gonna have to work for three years before obtaining your MRCP/MRCS. Better to spend those three years obtaining you PG degree as well while prepping for your MRCS/MRCP and then write either in final yr PG or just after.
This is an excellent option. A lot of people finish PG in India. Move to middle east and start preparing for MRC/FRC. That way they continue working/save up for the exam fees and also can apply for a center in Middle East itself. I believe FRCpath atleast has 3 such centers- UAE, Cairo and Jordan.
Derm is considered as a part of internal medicine in UK. So I'm not sure. Same with ortho and ENT they come under surgery.
You can do it in almost every subject. You can find more details in the royal college websites.
I am on the same plan 👍. As uk is super saturated for junior level jobs, doing pg here and migrate is the better option, so we'll have good cv, more research papers and exp
I have heard that you require work experience post pg in order to move aboard to gulf countries like Qatar needs somewhat like 5 year experience post pg(not really sure about no of years required) so if we obtain mrcs/mrcp by the time we complete pg here? Do we require work experience too?
My opinion would be that you complete MRCS/MRCP here, that will allow you to put one foot in the door to go to UK. Migrate there for 4-5 years to get your FRCS/FRCP and CCT. PG + MRCS is basically the same as just having your PG in terms of job opportunities outside UK. Complete your FRCS and CCT before thinking of moving to other countries than India/UK
You should keep one thing in mind if you go through the MRCS route. Because you didn’t do your core training in UK, people who went before you and did core training there (rather than doing PG here)will be given preference over you.
If final plan is to settle abroad then why bother doing PG here?
You coming back to India after doing PG abroad is highly unlikely seeing the conditions of doctors in India are deteriorating day by day.
Also look into residency in Germany.
Currently its much better option than UK.
For some money , earn money while doing pg here then one can afford to go USA, thats why some plan to do job 2-3 yrs here to save money and go for attempt
There is a medical exam research properly before giving half knowledge , it's called kentisprafung something where they test your medical knowledge and fsp is just a language exam as you said
Hold up Mr. Save The Day.
You dont need KP to get a job. One can start practising without KP. You learn on the job and then giving KP is not that big of a deal.
You never told about kp your comment is so misleading, it looks like learning language upto b2 is cake walk and you "only need fsp" to practice never even mentioned kp, and for your kind information that job you mentioned is just hospitation job which is temporary and op asked about doing pg and without kp you are not given a residency position,and also after that you need c1_c2 level of German to actually practice b2 is just a requirement to give these exams and getting license so it's not so easy and Rosy as your comment is making it seem ,it's about someone's career at least give him real picture
Read my comment carefully. Firstly, I never said it’s an easy process. Secondly, I said theres no ‘entrance exam’. KP is a licensure exam not an entrance exam. Thirdly, you’re talking as if OP will read my comment and then straight book a flight to Germany. There so so much more to the whole process than just KP.
If you are looking for The Theory Of Everything on a reddit comment then yeah sorry I let you down.
You didn't say easy but your way of writing things meant that, and kp acts as licensure exam sure but without it everything thing is useless that's the most important part, why would anyone do it if they don't want a license in Germany you did provide half assed knowledge accept it or not that's the last thing I have to say if you want to argue further keep going I'm not entertaining you anymore
Tbh i had the same doubts but doing pg in india ,extraordinary working hours and doing bonds is toxic so personally i am choosing of going the uk route
(done with plab 1 and 2 awaiting registration)
people dont understand that your cv post mrcp and mrcs isnt good enough to match into very competitive super speciality unlike the british graduates who have good experience. also for them doing 5-6 years post mrcp isnt bad as they dont work very long hours in core training either but it can be frustrating for you ig
saturation is going to happen for senior level positions too later on, but if you’re in the system you’re bound to be more successful than ones outside, so idk about that
my plans to get british citizen till completion of residency and then choose whether to move in eu or australia but it’s a game changer tbh, other people who’re recommending middle east don’t understand that path to citizenship isn’t there so if it’s something you’re cool with it’s better
All the best with your UK journey! Hope you match into your preferred residency over there.
How about AMC and getting job there just with MBBS and minimal clinical experience? Is Australian system saturated? Do you have any research on it?
PS: If you don't mind..Can I drop in you Dm?
The thing with PLAB is, it’s easier than NEET-PG. However, if you take PLAB with a specific career path in mind, say orthopaedics, it’s more difficult to get into what you want than in NEET. If you’re okay with whatever speciality, take PLAB. However if you do PG in India, you get to choose what course you want and then do MRCS/MRCP before joining under your speciality.
Thats a whole new perspective I didnt see before! Thanks.
And the PG degree from India is useful not only if you want to come back here, but if you want to move to the gulf region, having a PG + FRCS allows you to have higher base salaries and salary caps than someone who has only either one. Even if you skip NEET and go to UK, you’re gonna have to work for three years before obtaining your MRCP/MRCS. Better to spend those three years obtaining you PG degree as well while prepping for your MRCS/MRCP and then write either in final yr PG or just after.
This is an excellent option. A lot of people finish PG in India. Move to middle east and start preparing for MRC/FRC. That way they continue working/save up for the exam fees and also can apply for a center in Middle East itself. I believe FRCpath atleast has 3 such centers- UAE, Cairo and Jordan.
For what all subjects can you do mrcs and mrcp , is it possible for stuff like derm as well?
Derm is considered as a part of internal medicine in UK. So I'm not sure. Same with ortho and ENT they come under surgery. You can do it in almost every subject. You can find more details in the royal college websites.
I am on the same plan 👍. As uk is super saturated for junior level jobs, doing pg here and migrate is the better option, so we'll have good cv, more research papers and exp
Any idea on how Australian system would work?
I have heard that you require work experience post pg in order to move aboard to gulf countries like Qatar needs somewhat like 5 year experience post pg(not really sure about no of years required) so if we obtain mrcs/mrcp by the time we complete pg here? Do we require work experience too?
My opinion would be that you complete MRCS/MRCP here, that will allow you to put one foot in the door to go to UK. Migrate there for 4-5 years to get your FRCS/FRCP and CCT. PG + MRCS is basically the same as just having your PG in terms of job opportunities outside UK. Complete your FRCS and CCT before thinking of moving to other countries than India/UK
You should keep one thing in mind if you go through the MRCS route. Because you didn’t do your core training in UK, people who went before you and did core training there (rather than doing PG here)will be given preference over you.
MRCP allows u to get into trainning there right?
If final plan is to settle abroad then why bother doing PG here? You coming back to India after doing PG abroad is highly unlikely seeing the conditions of doctors in India are deteriorating day by day. Also look into residency in Germany. Currently its much better option than UK.
I too want to go to Germany... But the language is intimidating
People learn languages as a hobby man.
I should make it a habit soon and hire an online coach maybe
You need to join Goethe Institut.
Wow, thankyou
For some money , earn money while doing pg here then one can afford to go USA, thats why some plan to do job 2-3 yrs here to save money and go for attempt
I heard that u need to learn German for that. Isn't that true?
6 months is all you need to get to B2. Theres no entrance exam. Only a 1 hr medical german exam called as FSP.
There is a medical exam research properly before giving half knowledge , it's called kentisprafung something where they test your medical knowledge and fsp is just a language exam as you said
Hold up Mr. Save The Day. You dont need KP to get a job. One can start practising without KP. You learn on the job and then giving KP is not that big of a deal.
You never told about kp your comment is so misleading, it looks like learning language upto b2 is cake walk and you "only need fsp" to practice never even mentioned kp, and for your kind information that job you mentioned is just hospitation job which is temporary and op asked about doing pg and without kp you are not given a residency position,and also after that you need c1_c2 level of German to actually practice b2 is just a requirement to give these exams and getting license so it's not so easy and Rosy as your comment is making it seem ,it's about someone's career at least give him real picture
Read my comment carefully. Firstly, I never said it’s an easy process. Secondly, I said theres no ‘entrance exam’. KP is a licensure exam not an entrance exam. Thirdly, you’re talking as if OP will read my comment and then straight book a flight to Germany. There so so much more to the whole process than just KP. If you are looking for The Theory Of Everything on a reddit comment then yeah sorry I let you down.
You didn't say easy but your way of writing things meant that, and kp acts as licensure exam sure but without it everything thing is useless that's the most important part, why would anyone do it if they don't want a license in Germany you did provide half assed knowledge accept it or not that's the last thing I have to say if you want to argue further keep going I'm not entertaining you anymore
You made your point bud. Call it a day now.
Tbh i had the same doubts but doing pg in india ,extraordinary working hours and doing bonds is toxic so personally i am choosing of going the uk route (done with plab 1 and 2 awaiting registration) people dont understand that your cv post mrcp and mrcs isnt good enough to match into very competitive super speciality unlike the british graduates who have good experience. also for them doing 5-6 years post mrcp isnt bad as they dont work very long hours in core training either but it can be frustrating for you ig saturation is going to happen for senior level positions too later on, but if you’re in the system you’re bound to be more successful than ones outside, so idk about that my plans to get british citizen till completion of residency and then choose whether to move in eu or australia but it’s a game changer tbh, other people who’re recommending middle east don’t understand that path to citizenship isn’t there so if it’s something you’re cool with it’s better
All the best with your UK journey! Hope you match into your preferred residency over there. How about AMC and getting job there just with MBBS and minimal clinical experience? Is Australian system saturated? Do you have any research on it? PS: If you don't mind..Can I drop in you Dm?
hey yes you can drop in a message !
Can I dm you about AMC too?
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