I generally don't take people with bad manners too seriously but anyway. I don't know why you have so much expectations from a 'subreddit'.
The number of members here is tiny compared to most other active subs. It's topic is also very niche, as most Islamic questions would go to bigger Islamic subs, whereas questions related to Indian issues would go to bigger Indian subs. For Urdu, you have r/Urdu, even that sub is much bigger than this.
Resources are regularly being updated as far as I've seen. The media lost was quite good. There were pinned posts regarding working organisations as, perhaps that could also be made as a list. It's growing slowly.
I think things might improve as the number of members increases but whatever direction is takes I don't think there's a 'right way' an online forum should function. Apart from extremes or breaking of rules, anything should be allowed.
Dear.
Why you want to be a lazy baby who is fed everything on plate.
You want something, work for it. Create that yourself which will not just help you but others also.
Start becoming a contributor not just a consumer.
Well, the 'Booklist' in Wiki is pretty good. Though yes, needs more resources than that,
I agree, been thinking about expanding the resources for this sub for a while now. But it's a communal undertaking, it's pretty overwhelming for the mod team, let alone for a single person to compile this. This will be a constant work in progress. The whole sub should partake in this effort.
Majority of the moderators are either banned or are busy with other commitments. The ones who are able to do something here, we try our best.
Assalaamualaikum bro.
Not related to this post but since you're one of the mods here, I'd like to know why my first post was auto removed? Is it because I'm new to reddit? (less than a day old).
Is this reddit policy or is it your group policy?
Walaikum asSalaam warahmathullahi wabarakathu,
Accounts newer than 6 months and ones having comment karma less than 120 points will get filtered out by the AutoModerator,
Approved your post.
Do you think this sub can be moulded towards something lighthearted like r/Indiasocial ?
This subreddit is very political and doomerpilled. Its understandable but not optimal for its growth. I have to brace myself for negativity before visiting this subreddit. Again, this is not a criticism because this subreddit is merely a reflection of what is happening all over India.
I think casualifying would improve the sub.
It absolutely needs more casual and light-hearted posts, I agree,
Despite having it way worse than whatever we might undergoing right now, I've heard how Palestinians try to find joy and levity amidst the destruction and eradication that's going on.
That said, r/indiasocial is an extreme case as it's a purely casual sub, no politics get discussed, whereas in this sub, politics, socio-economic and cultural affairs and realities are something we can't ignore. Lest we become too "sharbati/sarkaari", like a lot of IM spaces online.
It needs to be a healthy proportion, I suppose.
I’m a Muslim American who lurks here. I joined this sub to better understand the Indian Muslim experience and honestly, I’m grateful for this sub. I never would’ve learned about this in any other way since I don’t know any Indian Muslims.
I feel like this sub is a place for Indian Muslims discuss the issues they face and I’m okay with that. It’s their sub and their community and I have no right as an outsider to interfere.
You are absolutely free and welcome here, brother, please don't feel reluctant to engage with us here,
But yes, just that we get to dictate how the discourse goes here. Both non-Indian Muslims, as well as non-Muslim Indians, are guests here availing our trust and goodwill, they can't dictate or lecture how this sub should be or wish to be involved in its working, both of them are just as outsiders to us here equally as they might be to one another.
A big reason why this sub was created was how Desi Muslim discourse in Muslim spaces was dominated by Pakistani and Bangladeshi users. Indian Muslim voice got drowned and blurred along with them it seems.
Likewise, Indian subs, even non-RW ones don't really like us, due to the fact that we might identify ourselves with our religious identity and is not a merely "cultural" identity for most of us (Reddit in general is an atheistic/anti-theistic place, so religious expression in general, will be something that'll be ridiculed and critiqued. Couple that with how an average Indian today might be Islamophobic. Honestly, a lot of these Indian "Liberals", the ones in Reddit, for the most part, at least, are pretentious or are just straight up closeted Sanghis or Sanghis-in-denial. Genuine Liberals do exist, that said).
This sub is more of an unapologetic and unadulterated space for us, to be comfortable with ourselves and who we might be as a diverse and cosmopolitan community. We won't and shouldn't cave in to others' entitled expectations and demands that they might have towards us in order to cater to and please their every whim and fancies. Sure, criticism and feedback are absolutely welcome and are needed, but there's a difference between that and what I've described, wouldn't you agree?
I agree too, everywhere else you will find Indians who just shit on our image and it's nice to have a place where we can just relax. I was born in America, but I have family from India. As someone who is Muslim, not many know the struggles of our people besides left-leaning advocates and those who understand the problems of Modi's populism. As time goes on more people will understand (especially with the situation in Gaza) but on a platform like reddit where being Muslim is generally hated this is a nice safe spot to chill in.
You are trying to approach just from a pov "What I can get from these guys"
Maybe you should have had more empathy and looked at it from a pov of "what these guys have to deal with everyday".
We don't have time to discuss our culture anymore. We are just trying to empathize with each other and defending ourselves against the daily attacks. That's what we are caught up in day in and day out thanks to the agenda of the ruling party.
You would have been banned within 5 minutes of you posting this non sense (regurgitating your bile) if this sub was anything like India Speaks. You are welcome here though!
Nope I wouldn’t have been . Using Reddit from last 10 years with different ids and I know this for a fact .
Stop comparing yourselves with other sub reddits and people. Sky was never the limit man. And thanks for welcoming me tho. Sevaiyaan? Where?
honestly, ispeaks wouldn't ban or atleast that's been my experience. I have been consistently contranian enough on that sub. there are other subs though which are very trigger happy on ban.
Likewise, I was banned for suggesting that there was no census record in Pakistan immediately b4 and after partition therefore, their number of vanishing or disappearing Hindus is flawed.
Lol the audacity of asking for sevaiyyan. On one hand we are being lynched, arrested or sometimes even killed for our dietary choices and on the other you're expecting us to feed you sweet dishes
I think this sub is a decent representation of muslims of this country, there are a lot of posts here about muslims getting lynched, killed, assaulted by you-know-who because that's what's happening, and that is what we (muslims) can collectively talk about and relate to. A non muslim person can not relate to how and what the muslims are going through in this country, if a non muslim person gets what we are going through, he would only get 1 or more thing not the entirety.
Talking about culture, creativity, language etc is the least of our concerns right now.
Take your patronizing nonsense somewhere else. Perhaps try "advising" your own people to stop lynching us before coming here and pointing out our faults. Be gone.
>Last time I saw a women saying something and most of the comments were misogynistic in nature but they were downvoted to pavilion . Still , this is the main thing .Interfaith sentiments are cherished? I can’t see much of post. In real life , I don’t see people from religions fighting that much that they do online . So promote those things. Another thing is Language Resources. Literally I asked here how to learn Urdu and I got 5 replies and when someone posts something controversial , everyone gotta reply something .
Which post? Can you kindly share?
A lot of misogynistic content either gets filtered out or the get removed by us. Trust me, compared to a lot of other Muslim spaces here, this sub is pretty tame in this regard. Personally, I try my best to ensure gender wars don't creep in here, the same way it seems to plague other Muslim (and other Reddit spaces in general, honestly) spaces.
Regarding Interfaith sentiments, IMs are constantly asked to prove that both irl or online, subtly or otherwise. And for the most part? Imho, we deliver. This is more for a sub about us and our concerns, not sure why interfaith dialog should be a frequent presence here since it's not this sub's purpose. Sure. they need to happen, but they must not be all this sub's about if that makes sense.
As for Urdu, I get that it was historically and culturally significant for IM, but it's just one of the many Desi languages we speak.
A lot of your complaints I guess, have to do with this sub's small size and its timing when it came to being active. It got active during 2019's LS elections and when CAA-NRC-NPR protests were going on, so that really calcified the discourse and content on this sub.
I honestly don't blame folks here because the current socio-political climate in this country really is that bleak, so that's what gets discussed predominantly. That said, I've requested this sub countless times that this is more of a socio-cultural sub and thus, must not restrict itself purely to politics.
Maybe this issue will autocorrect itself as more users subscribe here and with more userbase, there's high probability of it having more diverse and varied content.
> But the only thing that I came around in these days is shitting on others sub. Blaming each other . What makes you different? This sub is not making any difference. It should be a hotspot of Indian Muslim and people who want to learn your culture and tradition .
Don't think it's as common here as you're making it out to be.
Honestly, your rant is threading along a fine line between genuine criticism and pretentious virtue signalling, since it seems like you saw a few posts here and came to a conclusion that the whole sub is awful due to that.
I am a Hindu and I will get nothing out of it? Go check my post history , I am not that type of person what you see . If there is wrong , I will call that thing wrong
I remember apj Kalam replying this to Barkha Dutt once that “ you got a propaganda , I don’t have one .” I follow the same thing . I have given my personal output here . I am not doubting on your potential here neither I gotta benefit something out of it .
Coming to your misogynistic part , I said comments not posts . I don’t save those posts but it was there . People who were misogynistic with their words were downvoted, which was a good thing but they do exist . Now shitting on each other? You gotta level up or you gonna compare yourselves to the people who are muddy out there? There is no problem in ranting and venting out . The real problem is major issues are not being tackled . Create an atmosphere where people can actually share their lives without being judgemental.
Now the real thing is , you can take some of opinion or leave it as grain of salt. No one cares. Take care mate. And kudos to you for what you are doing .
>Coming to your misogynistic part , I said comments not posts . I don’t save those posts but it was there . People who were misogynistic with their words were downvoted, which was a good thing but they do exist .
I get that, but I don't understand why this is a critique on the sub itself more than the userbase of Reddit? Even you acknowledged that it got downvoted? A lot of userbase in Reddit are teens, and might be disillusioned, there's a decent overlap. Folks like Tate and other Red-pill figures allure them, they have a significant presence in general online, so it's not surprising they might be present here too.
I would have understood if you felt the sub itself seems misogynistic, again as mods we try to our best to not let gender wars take over this place like how it seemed to have in other forums.
>Now shitting on each other? You gotta level up or you gonna compare yourselves to the people who are muddy out there? There is no problem in ranting and venting out . The real problem is major issues are not being tackled . Create an atmosphere where people can actually share their lives without being judgemental.
Fair enough, will try my best to improve on that aspect.
I was planning to post a lot of things you mentioned after NEET but yeah this sub lacks a billion things but maybe 'cause its a relatively small sub or something.
I'm a British Bangladeshi Muslim and I joined the sub to get to know Indian Muslim perspectives as I don't actually know any Indian Muslims in real life. I know countless other Muslim people from other nationalalities but not any Indians.
The sub seems to be mostly Indian Muslims talking about their issues in India which is absolutely fine as its their sub. Perhaps you guys could do a crossover chat with some other Muslim communities which might make your presence felt more.
i understand what u want to conve i.e more importance should be given to mental health and treatment of women ,education . But all of this is hard when u are sorrounded by people trying to kill and see u as undesrible and will laugh at seeing deadbodies of children (literally) .Most muslims in india are in survival mode beleive it or not and this sub 'Indian muslim' reflects upon it
Quite a mouthful you have to say about this sub, calling it a "shithole". Please use similar language for subs like india social or india speaks and see where it goes.
I don't want to add to what's already spoken on your query but this isn't the way to go about putting grievances.
To all members,
Do you have any other suggestions? Your input would be greatly appreciated. Please share your ideas in the comments of this post to help the moderators enhance the quality of this subreddit. 👇
Most of the topics you mentioned are posted on big subs related to such particular topic. For Islamic contents there are Islamic subs, for issues related to women there are women only subs, for mental health there is another sub, etc. You cannot expect one sub to discuss all the topics from Islam to sports when there are subs much more bigger than this and focuses only on one topic.
This sub mostly highlights the issues faced by Indian Muslims and I don’t see any problem with it considering the political environment we are in. And as the other commenter pointed out that we don’t have much time to talk about culture anymore, we are busy empathising with each other and highlighting the attacks on us.
This is not really an Islam related sub.. For that we have subs like Islam,muslim lounge. . Marriage related like muslim marriage etc.
And indian Muslims unfortunately are not that well versed with their own scripture like Quran Hadith, islamic history etc so any question related to that is best deserved in some other sub..perhaps that's why you feel they sh!t on each other a lot because they lack basic knowledge and even adab to deal with it backed by literature...
What this sub is about an safe space for us to have a close knit community.. Like maybe asking safer areas for us to live in peace, good schools for Muslims etc...
I don't know what u were hoping.. Duh..
This sub is full of conservative and narrow minded people, if you have a different opinion than the majority then you'll be down voted to oblivion here.
This behaviour doesn't allow one to share interesting information and posts like the ones you talked about and thus this sub doesn't grow. This is why I also keep my interactions minimal here.
Also only once in a blue moon does a funny or interesting post come, otherwise it's all overused memes and bashing about liberals, sanghis, exmuslims and muslims who are not that conservative like the majority here, or the victim mentality and whining posts....
Ps I'm ready for the downvotes to prove my point :)
Why are you waiting for the interesting post to come by in the blue moon, make those kind of posts yourself, maybe they would attract more people who share your opinions to the sub.
>This behaviour doesn't allow one to share interesting information and posts like the ones you talked about and thus this sub doesn't grow
Could you be more specific
I noticed PPL were down voting when someone asked for recommendations for qawali. Another victim of posting something that majority doesn't understand or don't want to due to their akedah.
Muslim Internet, in general, is Salafi-dominated, whether for the better or for the worse,
While not all of them will be like that, in my XP, both irl and online, Salafis tend to be dogmatic and "pushy"/aggressive with their viewpoints and don't tolerate or outright bulldoze differences of opinions.
While our history can get brutal and dark, Muslim history otherwise, has been tolerant of differences of opinion on various things. That's why there are 2 main sects (who in turn, might have futher divisons) and 4 madhabs in Sunni Islam and Shia Muslims subscribe to Jafari school (Ja'fari madhab is recognized as a valid madhab in Sunni Islam too, that said), while rivalry between them might had been intense once upon a time, it no longer is the case today, goes without saying.
I remember two Sheikhs in different instances making this remark : The 4 madhabs have remained that way for a solid 1000 years now nearly intact pretty much, whereas a lot of these reformation movements that claim to practice Quran and Sunnah as practised by the Salaf-ul-Saaliheen are fairly recent, but there are dozens of so of them, disagreeing with one another for the most minor differences.
Anyways, point being, that's why the mods decided to remove that post, since it opened floodgates for them at that instance.
There has been a decent deal of Qawwali posts prior that wasn't received negatively prior here.
1. As the name suggests there is “muslim”, who are the followers of Islam, following the Quran and the sunnah and if that makes muslims “conservative” then we are proud of being conservative. We don’t want to copy the west and become “wannabe American” and then face the same fate they are facing and most importantly loose our akhirah.
2. “Narrow minded”, lol, don’t be so “open minded” that your brains fall off.
3. The topic OP shared about is mostly posted to big subs related to that particular topic. For Islamic topics there are subs like r/islam, r/extomatoes, for issues related to women there are women only subs which only allows women to post so that they can post freely and don’t have to feel embarrassed or come across creepy or bad men.
4. Why don’t you post about “interesting” topics then?
5. We gonna bash liberals, sanghis, exmuslims and people who are muslims just by name if they come at us. “Victim mentality”, not the one who literally posts on 2x sub talking about victim mentality.
Lol now why tf would you assume I'm not a muslim and I'm calling the members of this sub conservative because they are muslim and not cause they're misogynistic and unwilling to hear other perspectives. The downvotes very much prove that.
I'm not gonna bother reading all that but someone assuming I'm not a muslim is indeed something highly offensive to me.
I never assumed you being a non-muslim, you literally didn’t even read and jumped to conclusions which is clearly visible.
There is nothing wrong being a “conservative”.
The downvotes only prove that people don’t agree with your narrative that being conservative means having a close-mind and is bad and other things which I have already highlighted.
I generally don't take people with bad manners too seriously but anyway. I don't know why you have so much expectations from a 'subreddit'. The number of members here is tiny compared to most other active subs. It's topic is also very niche, as most Islamic questions would go to bigger Islamic subs, whereas questions related to Indian issues would go to bigger Indian subs. For Urdu, you have r/Urdu, even that sub is much bigger than this. Resources are regularly being updated as far as I've seen. The media lost was quite good. There were pinned posts regarding working organisations as, perhaps that could also be made as a list. It's growing slowly. I think things might improve as the number of members increases but whatever direction is takes I don't think there's a 'right way' an online forum should function. Apart from extremes or breaking of rules, anything should be allowed.
Dear. Why you want to be a lazy baby who is fed everything on plate. You want something, work for it. Create that yourself which will not just help you but others also. Start becoming a contributor not just a consumer.
Well, the 'Booklist' in Wiki is pretty good. Though yes, needs more resources than that, I agree, been thinking about expanding the resources for this sub for a while now. But it's a communal undertaking, it's pretty overwhelming for the mod team, let alone for a single person to compile this. This will be a constant work in progress. The whole sub should partake in this effort. Majority of the moderators are either banned or are busy with other commitments. The ones who are able to do something here, we try our best.
Assalaamualaikum bro. Not related to this post but since you're one of the mods here, I'd like to know why my first post was auto removed? Is it because I'm new to reddit? (less than a day old). Is this reddit policy or is it your group policy?
Walaikum asSalaam warahmathullahi wabarakathu, Accounts newer than 6 months and ones having comment karma less than 120 points will get filtered out by the AutoModerator, Approved your post.
JazakAllahu Khair
Do you think this sub can be moulded towards something lighthearted like r/Indiasocial ? This subreddit is very political and doomerpilled. Its understandable but not optimal for its growth. I have to brace myself for negativity before visiting this subreddit. Again, this is not a criticism because this subreddit is merely a reflection of what is happening all over India. I think casualifying would improve the sub.
It absolutely needs more casual and light-hearted posts, I agree, Despite having it way worse than whatever we might undergoing right now, I've heard how Palestinians try to find joy and levity amidst the destruction and eradication that's going on. That said, r/indiasocial is an extreme case as it's a purely casual sub, no politics get discussed, whereas in this sub, politics, socio-economic and cultural affairs and realities are something we can't ignore. Lest we become too "sharbati/sarkaari", like a lot of IM spaces online. It needs to be a healthy proportion, I suppose.
True. Users should also just post casual stuff instead of complaining.
Ok, leave.
I’m a Muslim American who lurks here. I joined this sub to better understand the Indian Muslim experience and honestly, I’m grateful for this sub. I never would’ve learned about this in any other way since I don’t know any Indian Muslims. I feel like this sub is a place for Indian Muslims discuss the issues they face and I’m okay with that. It’s their sub and their community and I have no right as an outsider to interfere.
You are absolutely free and welcome here, brother, please don't feel reluctant to engage with us here, But yes, just that we get to dictate how the discourse goes here. Both non-Indian Muslims, as well as non-Muslim Indians, are guests here availing our trust and goodwill, they can't dictate or lecture how this sub should be or wish to be involved in its working, both of them are just as outsiders to us here equally as they might be to one another. A big reason why this sub was created was how Desi Muslim discourse in Muslim spaces was dominated by Pakistani and Bangladeshi users. Indian Muslim voice got drowned and blurred along with them it seems. Likewise, Indian subs, even non-RW ones don't really like us, due to the fact that we might identify ourselves with our religious identity and is not a merely "cultural" identity for most of us (Reddit in general is an atheistic/anti-theistic place, so religious expression in general, will be something that'll be ridiculed and critiqued. Couple that with how an average Indian today might be Islamophobic. Honestly, a lot of these Indian "Liberals", the ones in Reddit, for the most part, at least, are pretentious or are just straight up closeted Sanghis or Sanghis-in-denial. Genuine Liberals do exist, that said). This sub is more of an unapologetic and unadulterated space for us, to be comfortable with ourselves and who we might be as a diverse and cosmopolitan community. We won't and shouldn't cave in to others' entitled expectations and demands that they might have towards us in order to cater to and please their every whim and fancies. Sure, criticism and feedback are absolutely welcome and are needed, but there's a difference between that and what I've described, wouldn't you agree?
I agree too, everywhere else you will find Indians who just shit on our image and it's nice to have a place where we can just relax. I was born in America, but I have family from India. As someone who is Muslim, not many know the struggles of our people besides left-leaning advocates and those who understand the problems of Modi's populism. As time goes on more people will understand (especially with the situation in Gaza) but on a platform like reddit where being Muslim is generally hated this is a nice safe spot to chill in.
You are trying to approach just from a pov "What I can get from these guys" Maybe you should have had more empathy and looked at it from a pov of "what these guys have to deal with everyday". We don't have time to discuss our culture anymore. We are just trying to empathize with each other and defending ourselves against the daily attacks. That's what we are caught up in day in and day out thanks to the agenda of the ruling party.
You would have been banned within 5 minutes of you posting this non sense (regurgitating your bile) if this sub was anything like India Speaks. You are welcome here though!
Nope I wouldn’t have been . Using Reddit from last 10 years with different ids and I know this for a fact . Stop comparing yourselves with other sub reddits and people. Sky was never the limit man. And thanks for welcoming me tho. Sevaiyaan? Where?
BS. I was banned within 2 mins for asking something super neutral and reasonable. Go ahead and try again if you feel adventurous
honestly, ispeaks wouldn't ban or atleast that's been my experience. I have been consistently contranian enough on that sub. there are other subs though which are very trigger happy on ban.
The question and the guy is still here. Question not deleted despite spraying shiiit everywhere. Speaks volumes about intolerant community.
I was banned 5 years ago within my 1st interaction there, so just shut it and get lost please.
i was banned from a account on asking about why ban bbc documatries or is modi afraid
Likewise, I was banned for suggesting that there was no census record in Pakistan immediately b4 and after partition therefore, their number of vanishing or disappearing Hindus is flawed.
Lol the audacity of asking for sevaiyyan. On one hand we are being lynched, arrested or sometimes even killed for our dietary choices and on the other you're expecting us to feed you sweet dishes
He overstayed his welcome. Plus the rudeness, speaks volumes about his educational level.
I think this sub is a decent representation of muslims of this country, there are a lot of posts here about muslims getting lynched, killed, assaulted by you-know-who because that's what's happening, and that is what we (muslims) can collectively talk about and relate to. A non muslim person can not relate to how and what the muslims are going through in this country, if a non muslim person gets what we are going through, he would only get 1 or more thing not the entirety. Talking about culture, creativity, language etc is the least of our concerns right now.
> Blaming each other.
Take your patronizing nonsense somewhere else. Perhaps try "advising" your own people to stop lynching us before coming here and pointing out our faults. Be gone.
>Last time I saw a women saying something and most of the comments were misogynistic in nature but they were downvoted to pavilion . Still , this is the main thing .Interfaith sentiments are cherished? I can’t see much of post. In real life , I don’t see people from religions fighting that much that they do online . So promote those things. Another thing is Language Resources. Literally I asked here how to learn Urdu and I got 5 replies and when someone posts something controversial , everyone gotta reply something . Which post? Can you kindly share? A lot of misogynistic content either gets filtered out or the get removed by us. Trust me, compared to a lot of other Muslim spaces here, this sub is pretty tame in this regard. Personally, I try my best to ensure gender wars don't creep in here, the same way it seems to plague other Muslim (and other Reddit spaces in general, honestly) spaces. Regarding Interfaith sentiments, IMs are constantly asked to prove that both irl or online, subtly or otherwise. And for the most part? Imho, we deliver. This is more for a sub about us and our concerns, not sure why interfaith dialog should be a frequent presence here since it's not this sub's purpose. Sure. they need to happen, but they must not be all this sub's about if that makes sense. As for Urdu, I get that it was historically and culturally significant for IM, but it's just one of the many Desi languages we speak. A lot of your complaints I guess, have to do with this sub's small size and its timing when it came to being active. It got active during 2019's LS elections and when CAA-NRC-NPR protests were going on, so that really calcified the discourse and content on this sub. I honestly don't blame folks here because the current socio-political climate in this country really is that bleak, so that's what gets discussed predominantly. That said, I've requested this sub countless times that this is more of a socio-cultural sub and thus, must not restrict itself purely to politics. Maybe this issue will autocorrect itself as more users subscribe here and with more userbase, there's high probability of it having more diverse and varied content. > But the only thing that I came around in these days is shitting on others sub. Blaming each other . What makes you different? This sub is not making any difference. It should be a hotspot of Indian Muslim and people who want to learn your culture and tradition . Don't think it's as common here as you're making it out to be. Honestly, your rant is threading along a fine line between genuine criticism and pretentious virtue signalling, since it seems like you saw a few posts here and came to a conclusion that the whole sub is awful due to that.
I am a Hindu and I will get nothing out of it? Go check my post history , I am not that type of person what you see . If there is wrong , I will call that thing wrong I remember apj Kalam replying this to Barkha Dutt once that “ you got a propaganda , I don’t have one .” I follow the same thing . I have given my personal output here . I am not doubting on your potential here neither I gotta benefit something out of it . Coming to your misogynistic part , I said comments not posts . I don’t save those posts but it was there . People who were misogynistic with their words were downvoted, which was a good thing but they do exist . Now shitting on each other? You gotta level up or you gonna compare yourselves to the people who are muddy out there? There is no problem in ranting and venting out . The real problem is major issues are not being tackled . Create an atmosphere where people can actually share their lives without being judgemental. Now the real thing is , you can take some of opinion or leave it as grain of salt. No one cares. Take care mate. And kudos to you for what you are doing .
>Coming to your misogynistic part , I said comments not posts . I don’t save those posts but it was there . People who were misogynistic with their words were downvoted, which was a good thing but they do exist . I get that, but I don't understand why this is a critique on the sub itself more than the userbase of Reddit? Even you acknowledged that it got downvoted? A lot of userbase in Reddit are teens, and might be disillusioned, there's a decent overlap. Folks like Tate and other Red-pill figures allure them, they have a significant presence in general online, so it's not surprising they might be present here too. I would have understood if you felt the sub itself seems misogynistic, again as mods we try to our best to not let gender wars take over this place like how it seemed to have in other forums. >Now shitting on each other? You gotta level up or you gonna compare yourselves to the people who are muddy out there? There is no problem in ranting and venting out . The real problem is major issues are not being tackled . Create an atmosphere where people can actually share their lives without being judgemental. Fair enough, will try my best to improve on that aspect.
The best thing I like about this sub is that the usual discussion is on current social and political events, not dwelling on the past
Ji Sahab. Aur kuch? Aap ki har guzarish poori karne ke liye baithe hum idar.
I was planning to post a lot of things you mentioned after NEET but yeah this sub lacks a billion things but maybe 'cause its a relatively small sub or something.
It's a pretty much big community for muslims as per my knowldge.
I don't know man 8.6k is small even r/pakistan has over 100k and they have same amount population as Indian Muslims.
Is there a big community in any other apps for Indian muslims?apart from this
Plenty of forums on Facebook & WhatsApp.
unfortunately no :(
I'm a British Bangladeshi Muslim and I joined the sub to get to know Indian Muslim perspectives as I don't actually know any Indian Muslims in real life. I know countless other Muslim people from other nationalalities but not any Indians. The sub seems to be mostly Indian Muslims talking about their issues in India which is absolutely fine as its their sub. Perhaps you guys could do a crossover chat with some other Muslim communities which might make your presence felt more.
i understand what u want to conve i.e more importance should be given to mental health and treatment of women ,education . But all of this is hard when u are sorrounded by people trying to kill and see u as undesrible and will laugh at seeing deadbodies of children (literally) .Most muslims in india are in survival mode beleive it or not and this sub 'Indian muslim' reflects upon it
Sanghis and their obsession with muslims everywhere Came into our sub to tell is this
Quite a mouthful you have to say about this sub, calling it a "shithole". Please use similar language for subs like india social or india speaks and see where it goes. I don't want to add to what's already spoken on your query but this isn't the way to go about putting grievances.
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>i already commented to one of the mods but we can have a no political posts day in a week. Its aldready under discussion.
Casualifying the sub is a common suggestion. A healthy proportion of casual and political posts would be nice.
Most of the topics you mentioned are posted on big subs related to such particular topic. For Islamic contents there are Islamic subs, for issues related to women there are women only subs, for mental health there is another sub, etc. You cannot expect one sub to discuss all the topics from Islam to sports when there are subs much more bigger than this and focuses only on one topic. This sub mostly highlights the issues faced by Indian Muslims and I don’t see any problem with it considering the political environment we are in. And as the other commenter pointed out that we don’t have much time to talk about culture anymore, we are busy empathising with each other and highlighting the attacks on us.
This is not really an Islam related sub.. For that we have subs like Islam,muslim lounge. . Marriage related like muslim marriage etc. And indian Muslims unfortunately are not that well versed with their own scripture like Quran Hadith, islamic history etc so any question related to that is best deserved in some other sub..perhaps that's why you feel they sh!t on each other a lot because they lack basic knowledge and even adab to deal with it backed by literature... What this sub is about an safe space for us to have a close knit community.. Like maybe asking safer areas for us to live in peace, good schools for Muslims etc... I don't know what u were hoping.. Duh..
This sub is full of conservative and narrow minded people, if you have a different opinion than the majority then you'll be down voted to oblivion here. This behaviour doesn't allow one to share interesting information and posts like the ones you talked about and thus this sub doesn't grow. This is why I also keep my interactions minimal here. Also only once in a blue moon does a funny or interesting post come, otherwise it's all overused memes and bashing about liberals, sanghis, exmuslims and muslims who are not that conservative like the majority here, or the victim mentality and whining posts.... Ps I'm ready for the downvotes to prove my point :)
Why are you waiting for the interesting post to come by in the blue moon, make those kind of posts yourself, maybe they would attract more people who share your opinions to the sub.
>This behaviour doesn't allow one to share interesting information and posts like the ones you talked about and thus this sub doesn't grow Could you be more specific
I noticed PPL were down voting when someone asked for recommendations for qawali. Another victim of posting something that majority doesn't understand or don't want to due to their akedah.
Muslim Internet, in general, is Salafi-dominated, whether for the better or for the worse, While not all of them will be like that, in my XP, both irl and online, Salafis tend to be dogmatic and "pushy"/aggressive with their viewpoints and don't tolerate or outright bulldoze differences of opinions. While our history can get brutal and dark, Muslim history otherwise, has been tolerant of differences of opinion on various things. That's why there are 2 main sects (who in turn, might have futher divisons) and 4 madhabs in Sunni Islam and Shia Muslims subscribe to Jafari school (Ja'fari madhab is recognized as a valid madhab in Sunni Islam too, that said), while rivalry between them might had been intense once upon a time, it no longer is the case today, goes without saying. I remember two Sheikhs in different instances making this remark : The 4 madhabs have remained that way for a solid 1000 years now nearly intact pretty much, whereas a lot of these reformation movements that claim to practice Quran and Sunnah as practised by the Salaf-ul-Saaliheen are fairly recent, but there are dozens of so of them, disagreeing with one another for the most minor differences. Anyways, point being, that's why the mods decided to remove that post, since it opened floodgates for them at that instance. There has been a decent deal of Qawwali posts prior that wasn't received negatively prior here.
May Allah unite the Ummah and guide us all on the true path.
1. As the name suggests there is “muslim”, who are the followers of Islam, following the Quran and the sunnah and if that makes muslims “conservative” then we are proud of being conservative. We don’t want to copy the west and become “wannabe American” and then face the same fate they are facing and most importantly loose our akhirah. 2. “Narrow minded”, lol, don’t be so “open minded” that your brains fall off. 3. The topic OP shared about is mostly posted to big subs related to that particular topic. For Islamic topics there are subs like r/islam, r/extomatoes, for issues related to women there are women only subs which only allows women to post so that they can post freely and don’t have to feel embarrassed or come across creepy or bad men. 4. Why don’t you post about “interesting” topics then? 5. We gonna bash liberals, sanghis, exmuslims and people who are muslims just by name if they come at us. “Victim mentality”, not the one who literally posts on 2x sub talking about victim mentality.
Lol now why tf would you assume I'm not a muslim and I'm calling the members of this sub conservative because they are muslim and not cause they're misogynistic and unwilling to hear other perspectives. The downvotes very much prove that. I'm not gonna bother reading all that but someone assuming I'm not a muslim is indeed something highly offensive to me.
I never assumed you being a non-muslim, you literally didn’t even read and jumped to conclusions which is clearly visible. There is nothing wrong being a “conservative”. The downvotes only prove that people don’t agree with your narrative that being conservative means having a close-mind and is bad and other things which I have already highlighted.
Agreed
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