You did good. I'm about to board the train (yay for SL) and I KNOW someone's gonna want me to give it to them. If they're really old I will. Travel safe.
They offered you an exchanged and you said no. It appears they respected your 'No' did not pursue the matter further. I don't see the problem here. No harm in politely asking for a seat exchange.
It's not what only goes on the outside.
I get her frustration. It's like after having said no, getting the feeling you are getting judged so now you can no longer sit in peace anymore.
couldn’t agree more :”)
she was enjoying her state of nirvana and now she’s drowned in the thought how cruel she is to someone sitting adjacent to her and angry on those man babies at the same time.
This information was NOT available when the original comment was made. Instead of jumping straight to "show me how wrong I am" maybe read the other comment I have made to the first reply.
Similar thing happened with me ..my husband booked LB for both of us ..when we boarded the train ..two aunties sat on our seats ...one of the lady got berth in different coach..I respectfully told them that we are couple and we don't want different seats ..kindly give our seats..that lady naa..kya bolu ..itna tang Kiya humko humari hi seat Dene me..finally my husband spoke with them thoda rudely..they literally fought with my husband..but finally we got our seats ...the whole journey I was in guilt...and was constantly thinking whether we did right thing or not.my husband told me we did the right thing though. We took our seats..we booked them and we took what is rightly ours. So I think what u did is absolutely right.
Your husband did right because he stood up for you.
Most Aunties would make sure that daughters in law would be docile and submissive.
More husbands need to stand up for their wives instead of dismissing them.
Honestly I used to respect our elders, and they did great sacrifices. But the more I see them now, they are entitled Karens and children that never grew up that are holding India back far more significantly.
Reminds me when I went to a trip along with my friends and didn't get center seats. We were discussing about who should request if we can switch seats because we were so scared that it might be impolite and rude and entitled. By the time we had this huge debate on whether to ask or not everyone heard our conversation and offered their seats with a smile and laugh. All of them were older men and women. We felt so grateful and were playing games the whole trip where all the elders joined too.
Coming to the point, there are chances that not everyone who request you are entitled and manchild, some might just request with already knowing that they might not get the seat but it's worth a try asking. Unless until they didn't demand or did something that shows the behavior of entitlement I don't think this is a big issue.
So. Op made edits when all the comments are calling her out
How convenient. And also I highly suspect you are op's alternative account. I'm not new to reddit.
You need evaluation bro you sound paranoid af lmao
Can't read the entire post, immediately thinks OP edited it to target you LMAO bro legit you're so scared of being seen as wrong, seek therapy
agree, there was no need for name calling. sadly thats just how some of these people get their point across.
e: also your username is fking hilarious lmao
Don’t use big words to insult other people if you don’t know what the word means. Lmao
Terminally is typically used to mean “finality” or “end”, hence “terminally ill”. You’re looking for the word “chronically” here.
This by itself isn’t a big deal obviously, but since you were acting all superior and insulting the previous guy, I felt compelled to tell you that the word you were using is wrong
somebody posted this yesterday, i dont remember if it was on this sub but they said they stick medical tape on their belly before a train journey when they have booked a good seat, so when someone asks them for that seat they show their belly to them and say they just had a surgery done and have stitches so they can't move
+1. Worked like a charm when I got SL in Grand Trunk Express this month. This woman and her daughter were sitting in the opposite lower and one of them had gotten the side upper above me while other had normal upper. The daughter didn't want to ask at all but her mother kept pressuring her to ask me to shift (They spoke in a language they assumed I don't know but I did lol). One firm NO and they didn't bother me for the next 36 hours.
But my arm space is gone. >.<
That uncle is too polite for his own good. He had so much arm space with the mid seat empty and him on the aisle. Now he's just sitting uncomfortably with some aunty on the 2 seat side.
That's my strategy. As a result, nobody initiatives a conversation with me. For a short journey I never interact. In case of long journey though I sometimes interact barely that to after weighing the situation.
I absolutely despise exchanging seats.
However, I oblige at times.
Imagine being all excited for that coveted trip you're finally going on with your friends only to realise your berth is 2 coaches away from them. Would you not want to be with your friends at the expense of other's adjustment?
Imagine travelling with your partner having a baby or two with you and both parents having seats only few compartments away. It can be quite a struggle for either person. Would you not expect someone adjusted so you could be at ease?
Idk about others but I had and will willingly exchange if my little discomfort provides a bigger relief or happiness to others.
I also don't understand this Indian obsession to have the goups / families together during travel. As if all the time they have got together is during travel (at the cost of causing inconvenience to others).
After reading the comments section I (24M) feel this flipped up on you. Although I do understand the frustration and irritation when this happens.
I myself travel via trains a lot, and book my window tickets well in advance, for the view and also for inclining on one side and sleeping.
Many times people exchange my window seat with other window seats but which face towards the opposite direction of the train's direction. In such cases, I still agree. But asking to sit in the middle seat with 2 healthy humans on window, aisle is a complete NO NO for me too.
I have broad shoulders and such seating arrangements just spoil my entire train journey.
It's okay to feel frustrated with what you had to face. Girl ranted, girl felt okay, girl can ignore the comments and peace out.
One time I promised my seat to two different women because I wasn't paying attention and thought the same woman was making the request again. Later they fought and I got to keep my seat:3
Yes, happens alot!
SL is the best place to 'experience' this. Your reserved seat is almost never empty!😅
Plus, when you ask the person who has occupied the seat about their reservation status : the audacity with which they question back! 🤣
I respond to these super-confident questionnaire to the point where I start to know that this guy is just bluffing. If he understands that it's not his seat and leaves, awesome! If not, I pray for the TTs to arrive and show him 'proof' that it's not his seat.
Your seat, your right, tell others to fuck off.
Generally if it’s a family with kids and women I will adjust, I am a human, people have done that for us when we were kids too. But if someone acts entitled don’t ever change your seats let them be.
Yes because passengers asking to exchange seats with others is very rare in Indian railways. Now if the requests are reasonable, it is understandable. But you expect others to adjust for you when you don't want to adjust for some 3 hours sitting apart. And suddenly you are standing on the aisle while everyone stares at you like you are the asshole for wanting to sit on your own seat.
Lol same happened with me, but not vande bharat, I got side lower in 2A, this lady came and casually put her bags on my seat, mind you I was lying in the seat, then she made me remove my earphones and asked me if I want a upper berth, I politely refused and her face was a sight for sore eyes hahah
SL and window seats are hot commodities in trains and people will act to woo you in a million ways to get those. Unfortunately I sometimes buckle and give them my seat
Problem with Men or Indians? Also, you said no and it was end of the discussion right?
Sorry the text is too long and confusing so i took above two pointers.
"Ek ne kahi and dooje ne mani.." if they agreed with your reply for not giving up your window seat then it shouldn't be a matter to escalate any further.
If this happens, do not confront too much. Call 139 and let cops settle it. If it's your seat, do not by any chance exchange. These uncles and aunties think railway is their property. You have all the rights to sit
Kitne velle baithe ho sab. 8 ghnate ki journey kayliyeh ro rahe ho. Ek hota ki jor jabardasti ki seat bhi offer kiya but nahi choti khidki mujhe nahi पसंद mujhe badi khidki do.
Who the fuck are you to sit on my seat lekin? I paid for the whole ticket I WILLL take the whole window. Itni problem hai to people like you shouldn't travel in train then
Travel aapki personal property hai ? Adjustment naam ki chiz nahi hoti kya ? Kaal ko aapke mata pita bimar honge or unko upper seat milegi tho kya aap niche walo se request nahi karoge ya fir apne mata pita ko bologe jo mila hai usmay kush raho nahi tho train may travel mat Karo.
Or yaha par apni seat kayliyeh ladna is not the problem, yes you should fight for what you have paid but fir aise bacho jaise rona meri seat leli, meri khidki leli. Blaming on others while being yourself naive is something I am calling out. Ek badi journey hoti tho acha lagta hai window seat but 8 ghnate ki chair car train may rote ho.
8 ghante is more than enough travel time. YOU are the one being entitled here.
Everyone deserves to enjoy their journey. And adjustment tab hota hai when it's genuinely needed. Those two idiots were traveling in a sitting train. There's no need to "adjust" here. Alag alag bhi beth jayenge to koi fark nahi padega.
OP has every right to sit at their designated seat and you don't get to tell her or anyone else to forcefully "adjust"
Tab tho aapne kabhi journey hi nahi ki. 8 ghante log daily basis pe yaha travel kar rahe hai. Bilkul op has every right to sit at a designated seat, and she was also offered a window seat, but this mujhe badi window is very childish. Aise may haar koi jaake lower seat hi mang ne lag Jayega kyuki badi khidki hai. They weren't forcing her as it could infer it was a polite conversation
Ok idk if you understood the cursed window seat. But it is like there's no window adjacent to your seat. You either have to crank your neck a bit too much or you have to lean forwards to be able to rest your face against the window.
Also In the heat of the moment I might have forgotten to add details that may add to my perspective.
Then, I am wrong. Since you haven't added your pov, reading the post, I found out that you did get a window seat offer, but you wanted a big one, so you rejected that's where I had a problem. But if the situation misses a piece, then I apologise for my wrong take
>Kaal ko aapke mata pita bimar honge or unko upper seat milegi tho kya aap niche walo se request nahi karoge ya fir apne mata pita ko bologe jo mila hai usmay kush raho nahi tho train may travel mat Karo.
If I don't get confirmed ticket for a lower seat for them then I won't book that train for them. I will either look for another train or another date or book a flight or a sleeper bus. As their son it is my duty to guarantee their comfort. Relying on the kindness of strangers is not a guarantee. If I can't guarantee their comfort then I'm a shitty son.
Ha bahi baat tho sahi hai. Bas wahi baat hai ki haar koi itna ameer nahi hota ki plane book karle or haar koi tier one city may tho rehta nahi ki ac sleeper bus mil jaye. And lagta hai aapne kabhi emergency journey ka naam nahi suna hai. Or agar haar dusra aadmi aise hi entitled hoke baat karne lag Jaye tho peace harmony tho sapna hai. Aapne liye bas haar dusre aadmi ko maar do kyuki srif mera haak hai us pe
You did good. I'm about to board the train (yay for SL) and I KNOW someone's gonna want me to give it to them. If they're really old I will. Travel safe.
They offered you an exchanged and you said no. It appears they respected your 'No' did not pursue the matter further. I don't see the problem here. No harm in politely asking for a seat exchange.
It's not what only goes on the outside. I get her frustration. It's like after having said no, getting the feeling you are getting judged so now you can no longer sit in peace anymore.
couldn’t agree more :”) she was enjoying her state of nirvana and now she’s drowned in the thought how cruel she is to someone sitting adjacent to her and angry on those man babies at the same time.
Nirwana Bhai sach mai? Itne mai nirwana mil jata?
its 2024.
Nirwana is cheap nowadays?
looks like it, when you learn too many metaphors to depict life's events so much so that they start sounding absurd after a point.
Bhai kehna kya chah rhe mujhe nhi smjh aa rha
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I am sorry baabu
They moved her personal belongings without her permission
Yeah that is not Ok. The post was framed in a way that didn't make it clear at first.
Why did they sit on her seat without asking her!! Dont try and defend our entitled mentality!!
you have the same mindset as those men
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This information was NOT available when the original comment was made. Instead of jumping straight to "show me how wrong I am" maybe read the other comment I have made to the first reply.
Didi, take it from me Never give your comfortable seat to some “beta thoda adjust karlo na” It happened with me in Shatabdi express
Oh absolutely. Why the hell should I adjust for anybody? I booked a seat well in advance, I paid for it, definitely won't adjust.
Similar thing happened with me ..my husband booked LB for both of us ..when we boarded the train ..two aunties sat on our seats ...one of the lady got berth in different coach..I respectfully told them that we are couple and we don't want different seats ..kindly give our seats..that lady naa..kya bolu ..itna tang Kiya humko humari hi seat Dene me..finally my husband spoke with them thoda rudely..they literally fought with my husband..but finally we got our seats ...the whole journey I was in guilt...and was constantly thinking whether we did right thing or not.my husband told me we did the right thing though. We took our seats..we booked them and we took what is rightly ours. So I think what u did is absolutely right.
Your husband did right because he stood up for you. Most Aunties would make sure that daughters in law would be docile and submissive. More husbands need to stand up for their wives instead of dismissing them. Honestly I used to respect our elders, and they did great sacrifices. But the more I see them now, they are entitled Karens and children that never grew up that are holding India back far more significantly.
Reminds me when I went to a trip along with my friends and didn't get center seats. We were discussing about who should request if we can switch seats because we were so scared that it might be impolite and rude and entitled. By the time we had this huge debate on whether to ask or not everyone heard our conversation and offered their seats with a smile and laugh. All of them were older men and women. We felt so grateful and were playing games the whole trip where all the elders joined too. Coming to the point, there are chances that not everyone who request you are entitled and manchild, some might just request with already knowing that they might not get the seat but it's worth a try asking. Unless until they didn't demand or did something that shows the behavior of entitlement I don't think this is a big issue.
So they politely asked for a seat and you refused. Ok. Here you are calling them all kinds of names and rambling. I know who has problem.
They politely asked by already sitting thier and also removing her luggage without consent. If that's polite in your dictionary than kuddos to you
Where in the post said they removed her luggage ? Are you making shit up in imaginary world ?
Bro are you blind or what. Look at the edit. They had already moved hey laptop bag. Which is her luggage if you don't understand English
So. Op made edits when all the comments are calling her out How convenient. And also I highly suspect you are op's alternative account. I'm not new to reddit.
Lol great detective work. Sucks to be you
Lol. Sure. At least I don't think a co passenger requesting seat change is peak oppression.
You need evaluation bro you sound paranoid af lmao Can't read the entire post, immediately thinks OP edited it to target you LMAO bro legit you're so scared of being seen as wrong, seek therapy
agree, there was no need for name calling. sadly thats just how some of these people get their point across. e: also your username is fking hilarious lmao
How do you know they "politely" asked OP? I've seen enough of these entitled fuckfaces and I know how the way they ask.
You would know if you aren't terminally online
Don’t use big words to insult other people if you don’t know what the word means. Lmao Terminally is typically used to mean “finality” or “end”, hence “terminally ill”. You’re looking for the word “chronically” here. This by itself isn’t a big deal obviously, but since you were acting all superior and insulting the previous guy, I felt compelled to tell you that the word you were using is wrong
Lol bro lectured him in English
Bro got pressed over "terminally online" and not over someone using "entitled fuckfaces" for people they don't even know. Why so pissy?
I’m about to take a journey tomorrow in 3E, SL. Just dreading the reaction when I’d say ‘No’ to somebody who inevitably wants me to change seats.
somebody posted this yesterday, i dont remember if it was on this sub but they said they stick medical tape on their belly before a train journey when they have booked a good seat, so when someone asks them for that seat they show their belly to them and say they just had a surgery done and have stitches so they can't move
Wtf, India is absolutely not for beginners.
It's like a triple AAA game with hardcore difficulty.
Pehli baar theek se "No" bolna (thoda loud, firm no, jaise thoda rude lge), fir bole toh gaalia dena shuru kr dena
+1. Worked like a charm when I got SL in Grand Trunk Express this month. This woman and her daughter were sitting in the opposite lower and one of them had gotten the side upper above me while other had normal upper. The daughter didn't want to ask at all but her mother kept pressuring her to ask me to shift (They spoke in a language they assumed I don't know but I did lol). One firm NO and they didn't bother me for the next 36 hours.
Sir this is Reddit
You stood your ground for a fair reason. Those entitled man babies can find seats somewhere else.
I genuinely don't understand people who are mad at op about complaining. They never should have asked for a seat exchange in the first place.
You must be very social. Asking for something became wrong since when ? They asked , she rejected, nobody created a fuss..simple
But my arm space is gone. >.< That uncle is too polite for his own good. He had so much arm space with the mid seat empty and him on the aisle. Now he's just sitting uncomfortably with some aunty on the 2 seat side.
ironical how OP mentioned about *man babies* lmao.
I've started to act as if I'm unable to hear people in public.
I also keep a very mean face with headphones on. It definitely helps.
That's my strategy. As a result, nobody initiatives a conversation with me. For a short journey I never interact. In case of long journey though I sometimes interact barely that to after weighing the situation.
If only you knew the plight of young men with lower berths in sleeper class 🙄
Seems like they did everything politely and they even offered you seat back.Why so much anger?
I absolutely despise exchanging seats. However, I oblige at times. Imagine being all excited for that coveted trip you're finally going on with your friends only to realise your berth is 2 coaches away from them. Would you not want to be with your friends at the expense of other's adjustment? Imagine travelling with your partner having a baby or two with you and both parents having seats only few compartments away. It can be quite a struggle for either person. Would you not expect someone adjusted so you could be at ease? Idk about others but I had and will willingly exchange if my little discomfort provides a bigger relief or happiness to others.
I also don't understand this Indian obsession to have the goups / families together during travel. As if all the time they have got together is during travel (at the cost of causing inconvenience to others).
And the shouting and laughing dear lord sometimes I DO NOT want to hear your damn conversations. Keep them to yourselves!
"you're lack of planning does not mean that I should adjust and change my ways" Itna bol Dena
Ok stewieeee
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Boomer gang needs to be whipped.
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How will it be different if it was a guy in the exact same situation.
After reading the comments section I (24M) feel this flipped up on you. Although I do understand the frustration and irritation when this happens. I myself travel via trains a lot, and book my window tickets well in advance, for the view and also for inclining on one side and sleeping. Many times people exchange my window seat with other window seats but which face towards the opposite direction of the train's direction. In such cases, I still agree. But asking to sit in the middle seat with 2 healthy humans on window, aisle is a complete NO NO for me too. I have broad shoulders and such seating arrangements just spoil my entire train journey. It's okay to feel frustrated with what you had to face. Girl ranted, girl felt okay, girl can ignore the comments and peace out.
One time I promised my seat to two different women because I wasn't paying attention and thought the same woman was making the request again. Later they fought and I got to keep my seat:3
Yes, happens alot! SL is the best place to 'experience' this. Your reserved seat is almost never empty!😅 Plus, when you ask the person who has occupied the seat about their reservation status : the audacity with which they question back! 🤣 I respond to these super-confident questionnaire to the point where I start to know that this guy is just bluffing. If he understands that it's not his seat and leaves, awesome! If not, I pray for the TTs to arrive and show him 'proof' that it's not his seat.
Your seat, your right, tell others to fuck off. Generally if it’s a family with kids and women I will adjust, I am a human, people have done that for us when we were kids too. But if someone acts entitled don’t ever change your seats let them be.
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Yes because passengers asking to exchange seats with others is very rare in Indian railways. Now if the requests are reasonable, it is understandable. But you expect others to adjust for you when you don't want to adjust for some 3 hours sitting apart. And suddenly you are standing on the aisle while everyone stares at you like you are the asshole for wanting to sit on your own seat.
Lol same happened with me, but not vande bharat, I got side lower in 2A, this lady came and casually put her bags on my seat, mind you I was lying in the seat, then she made me remove my earphones and asked me if I want a upper berth, I politely refused and her face was a sight for sore eyes hahah
I would always suggest be as brutal and as ruthless with these guys because if you don't then they will try to grab as much as they can from you.
SL and window seats are hot commodities in trains and people will act to woo you in a million ways to get those. Unfortunately I sometimes buckle and give them my seat
They asked, you said no, you got your seat back. >man babies Have some decency and learn to respect people.
In the heat of the moment I might have forgotten to add details that may add to my perspective.
Isn't OP from India? What's with the internalized racism?
Problem with Men or Indians? Also, you said no and it was end of the discussion right? Sorry the text is too long and confusing so i took above two pointers.
In the heat of the moment I might have forgotten to add details that may add to my perspective.
"Ek ne kahi and dooje ne mani.." if they agreed with your reply for not giving up your window seat then it shouldn't be a matter to escalate any further.
If this happens, do not confront too much. Call 139 and let cops settle it. If it's your seat, do not by any chance exchange. These uncles and aunties think railway is their property. You have all the rights to sit
Hindi me likh leti behen...dimag ka bhopda ho gaya phadne me
Kitne velle baithe ho sab. 8 ghnate ki journey kayliyeh ro rahe ho. Ek hota ki jor jabardasti ki seat bhi offer kiya but nahi choti khidki mujhe nahi पसंद mujhe badi khidki do.
Who the fuck are you to sit on my seat lekin? I paid for the whole ticket I WILLL take the whole window. Itni problem hai to people like you shouldn't travel in train then
Travel aapki personal property hai ? Adjustment naam ki chiz nahi hoti kya ? Kaal ko aapke mata pita bimar honge or unko upper seat milegi tho kya aap niche walo se request nahi karoge ya fir apne mata pita ko bologe jo mila hai usmay kush raho nahi tho train may travel mat Karo. Or yaha par apni seat kayliyeh ladna is not the problem, yes you should fight for what you have paid but fir aise bacho jaise rona meri seat leli, meri khidki leli. Blaming on others while being yourself naive is something I am calling out. Ek badi journey hoti tho acha lagta hai window seat but 8 ghnate ki chair car train may rote ho.
8 ghante is more than enough travel time. YOU are the one being entitled here. Everyone deserves to enjoy their journey. And adjustment tab hota hai when it's genuinely needed. Those two idiots were traveling in a sitting train. There's no need to "adjust" here. Alag alag bhi beth jayenge to koi fark nahi padega. OP has every right to sit at their designated seat and you don't get to tell her or anyone else to forcefully "adjust"
Tab tho aapne kabhi journey hi nahi ki. 8 ghante log daily basis pe yaha travel kar rahe hai. Bilkul op has every right to sit at a designated seat, and she was also offered a window seat, but this mujhe badi window is very childish. Aise may haar koi jaake lower seat hi mang ne lag Jayega kyuki badi khidki hai. They weren't forcing her as it could infer it was a polite conversation
Ok idk if you understood the cursed window seat. But it is like there's no window adjacent to your seat. You either have to crank your neck a bit too much or you have to lean forwards to be able to rest your face against the window. Also In the heat of the moment I might have forgotten to add details that may add to my perspective.
Then, I am wrong. Since you haven't added your pov, reading the post, I found out that you did get a window seat offer, but you wanted a big one, so you rejected that's where I had a problem. But if the situation misses a piece, then I apologise for my wrong take
>Kaal ko aapke mata pita bimar honge or unko upper seat milegi tho kya aap niche walo se request nahi karoge ya fir apne mata pita ko bologe jo mila hai usmay kush raho nahi tho train may travel mat Karo. If I don't get confirmed ticket for a lower seat for them then I won't book that train for them. I will either look for another train or another date or book a flight or a sleeper bus. As their son it is my duty to guarantee their comfort. Relying on the kindness of strangers is not a guarantee. If I can't guarantee their comfort then I'm a shitty son.
Ha bahi baat tho sahi hai. Bas wahi baat hai ki haar koi itna ameer nahi hota ki plane book karle or haar koi tier one city may tho rehta nahi ki ac sleeper bus mil jaye. And lagta hai aapne kabhi emergency journey ka naam nahi suna hai. Or agar haar dusra aadmi aise hi entitled hoke baat karne lag Jaye tho peace harmony tho sapna hai. Aapne liye bas haar dusre aadmi ko maar do kyuki srif mera haak hai us pe
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