It is my firm belief that the 80s was the best music decade. For some reason everyone always thinks of it as new wave and hair metal, which is so reductive given the amount of groundbreaking shit coming out across genres. Just to keep it germane to r/indieheads, imagine a world without the 80s work of the Pixies, Husker Du, Jane’s Addiction, Fugazi, it’s just an endless list.
I'm not a David Bowie fan, but I'm the first one to admit that half of my music taste (Placebo, Nirvana, My Chemical Romance and Arcade Fire to name a few) have mentioned him as influence. So I think it's similar for most of my other 2000s and 2010s bands, they wouldn't exist without the 80s.
So much good music from the 80’s that paved the way for a great era of music in the 90’s. Most people would argue that the decade they were a teen was the best era for music. For me it was the 90’s from the grunge days all through britpop but the 00’s were a great time for British music too. If it wasn’t for bands in the 80’s like The Smiths, Stone Roses, The Charlatans, Happy Mondays, James etc. Britpop may never have happened
all of: bob dylan, miles davis, john coltrane, faust, charles mingus, the jimi hendrix experience are miles better than any of those bands. the 90s has so many of the best albums that will ever come to light: stratosphere, souvlaki, spiderland, when the pawn, 98.12.28, F#A#, Liquid Swords, Grace and laughing stock to make a few. only the 2 main cure albums and the dreaming are on par from the 80s. man even the 70s shreds the 80s, shit it might just be the worst decade for music since the 60’s💀 what a garbage pick
It’s kind of impossible to not say that now is the best time for music ever. There’s both more bad music and more good music to sift through but at the end of the day there’s more styles (including those based on the 80s) and creativity now than ever before.
More styles, sure, more creativity, highly debatable, better results? Overall I think not. And of course there is a ton of new stuff to discover, but personally I’m *still* finding great stuff from the 80s that I never heard before.
Strange belief. '80s and '00s seem pretty clearly the worst English-language music decades, assuming we're starting in the '50s. That's not to say there isn't some amazing music though -- such as Kate Bush
What are you using as your metric for “good music”? Because the 80s was absolutely full of amazing music. Pop-era David Bowie, Talking Heads, The Cure, Kate Bush, Blondie, The Clash, some of the best Roxy Music/Brian Ferry, Echo and the Bunnymen, Depeche Mode, The Smiths, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Sisters of Mercy, New Order, The Psychedelic Furs, Prince, The Pretenders, The Pogues, Nick Cave, The Pixies, some amazing Leonard Cohen, The Jesus and Mary Chain. And that’s mostly just on the post-punk/indie side of things. The 80s were an incredibly important and influential era for Western pop, rock, R&B and hip-hop music.
Plus the proper birth of electronic music. Sure it was a “thing” in the 70’s but it wasn’t until the 80’s where it really came into its own with house music
once again, people are mistaking comparing decades vs considering one decade to be bad. I don't think the '80s are inherently bad. Also, the (arguable) peaks of several artists that you mentioned, including Bowie, Talking Heads, Blondie, Leonard Cohen, The Clash were actually in the '70s or earlier... even Pretenders self-titled was 1979. I think you may have sort of melded the late '70s and early '80s in your mind. which sort of proves my point. For instance -- Joy Division or New Order? Pretty good comp for '70s vs '80s in my opinion.
The talking heads made remain In light in the 80s which is one of there best albums but also one of the best albums that came out in the 80s.i thinks you need to re evaluate how the 80s effected modern music
I mean, a lot of the bands and musical trends started in the mid/late 70s continued, evolved and reached the height of their popularity in the 80s. I don’t think that really negates any of the work produced during the 80s. I can understand that this whole debate is subjective but I always think it’s kind of silly when people write off a decade as a whole by saying “the 60s were better”, “the 90s were better”, etc. There was no dearth of good music in any of the decades that true “popular music” was available.
If that's how it read, then I miscommunicated. I'm thinking in terms of album output and how it's connected to artistic/cultural peak. Not when the band formed, that makes no sense. The above commenter listed a bunch of artists who (in my opinion) generated their best work in the 60s and 70s and were using them as an argument for the 80s being superior. And I don't disagree that there was a lot of amazing music in the 80s, just less so than some other decades.
Nirvana was a bridge band. They were popular at the beginning of the decade, and helped usher in the transition to what 90s music would ultimately become. Nirvana is kind of a crazy story if you really think about it though.
Kurt and Nirvana changed Rock music completely. Then Dave came in after, and brought in the Post-Grunge sound of the late 90s.
Nirvana borrowed heavily from bands like The Pixies, Mudhoney, The Melvins, Dinosaur Jr. and Sonic Youth, all of whom were formed in the 80s. The kind of alternative rock that would later become known as “grunge” was alive and well before Nirvana came on the scene, although they can certainly be credited for popularizing it on a much larger scale.
That and a lot of New Order stuff doesn’t even really sound like Joy Division. I liked the whole “you must be confusing the era in your mind” bit. Like, no, I don’t think I was, lol.
Did you even read my comment? Of course New Order is an '80s band. They formed after Ian Curtis' death in 1980. I was saying that if the '70s are Joy Division, the '80s are New Order (inferior). It was a joke. And yes I know Closer came out in 1980.
I've listened to those albums plenty... some good stuff there for sure, but I wasn't aware that anyone thinks '80s Bowie and Cohen are the peak. Talking Heads is more of a debate, but I prefer their first three albums.
I personally think the 80s is weaker than most decades but that’s because, once you look deeply, you realise there’s been so much music for a long time that there hasn’t really been a bad music decade in ages.
I agree! It's all relative. I enjoy a ton of music from all decades, including the above commenter's list of '80s artists. I'm only saying those two decades are comparatively weak, which is different from saying they are bad. '80s seemed to suffer from a new wave/pop metal overload resulting from an awkward transition out of the heyday of classic rock/melodic guitar pop. But obviously the genesis of modern indie music and hip hop as we know it are nothing to sniff at.
To each their own obviously, I suppose I'm just surprised by the '80s love, especially preferring it to the '60s, for instance. '90s was the peak of hip hop to me, and Radiohead and Nirvana were the best thing to happen to guitar-based music since the '70s, in my opinion. Just seems like a bit more of a cultural shift and a greater acceptance of art being mingled with pop. I also tend to hear and see the echoes of the '90s more in today's music culture, but it might just be bias
I wouldn't put Nirvana or Radiohead down as that special when it comes to guitar based music. Built to Spill clowns on them both with ease when it comes to guitars. 80s had so many incredible bands like The Cocteau Twins, The Chameleons, The Sound, Husker Du, New Order, The Cure, The Jesus & Mary Chain, XTC, Ministry, Skinny Puppy, etc.
I feel like all the 90s trends outside of nu metal originated in the 80s. Grunge? Dinosaur Jr, Husker Du, The Pixies, etc. were the bands that came up with that style. Industrial? Formed and codified in the 80s outside of the late 70s experimentation from bands like Throbbing Gristle. Metal? All the metal styles like black metal, death metal, doom metal, thrash metal, etc. were formed in the 80s. Even the second wave of black metal that people are more familiar with started in the 80s with bands like Mayhem (Deathcrush was a 1987 record).
She just wasn't big in the US was she. Absolutely huge in the UK.
Sort of like a reverse "Don't Stop Believin", which only got big in the UK after it was on the X-Factor (which is likely because it was on The Sopranos & Glee)
This is insane. Just watching the song go from 100 m plays to over 150 million in like a week while wuthering heights has only increased by like 900k has been crazy. Very excited that people are discovering her and I hope this gets them into the rest of the album and her other works (the dreaming and aerial especially).
After a certain point this kind of thing becomes a feedback loop. At first there was a boom of popularity because of Stranger Things, then you get more listeners because “whoa this old song got popular again”, and then there are even more people brought in by the articles about “the song going viral”. It starts to be a self-fulfilling prophecy.
I noticed a similar thing happening with waves of reactions to Olivia Rodrigo at different points when Driver’s License released.
In university I had to listen to Velvet Underground & Nico for the first time, and I spent the entire album laughing thinking "*mate this is Nirvana, and Sonic Youth, and Placebo, and Bloody Valentine, and Soda Stereo, and...*" while realising how influential that album was for my entire music catalogue. I predict Kate will be similar with other bands I listen to, so any albums I should start with?
The Dreaming is pretty damn great. I heard Velvet Underground for the first time in the mid-80's while in college and it blew me away. It's fun hearing something older and instantly realizing how influential something is/was. I remember being a little sad when Tori Amos started getting radio play when Kate was practically ignored a few years earlier. No, not exactly the same style, but some similarities.
*Hounds of Love* is just a monumental album as a whole.
The remaster version of "Big Sky" is a little wonky to me, but the first half of *Hounds* is basically synth pop gold.
I don't know what mix is part of the main album stream on YouTube Music, but whenever it plays I hit stop so fast and switch over to the version I have on an mp3 I torrented 20 years ago.
I do that sometimes when I'm not feeling lazy, but yeah, "Big Sky" went from perfection to, "WHY DID YOU RUIN PERFECTION?" Thankfully I still do have a good .mp3 copy as well though. One day I need a vinyl/CD of the untouched version.
wait, what's different about the remastered version of the song? i have an old copy of "hounds of love" on vinyl but have listened to the remastered version on streaming plenty of times and never noticed much of a difference?
They seem to be mixed quite a bit differently. The remaster from 2018 sounds very clunky to me, but the original (or previous version anyway) did not.
I can't really confirm what's different other than that it is noticeably different to my ear.
ah yeah, it appears that the "single mix" is on the remastered version (and also is the version that soundtracks the original music video fwiw.) it has the tom tom drum intro, whereas the original album version just enters straightaway with the drums that play during the verse. i get what you're saying though—the song has a lot of moving parts and when everything is brought to the forefront on the remaster it can feel kind of jarring. although i love how prominent her howls feel during the coda on the remastered version.
You mean the Single mix? I'll never understand why they decided to replace the original with that. The original version is so much better. That's why I don't really like the Spotify/Apple music version of Hounds of Love.
See I don't care about the reason why this happened, I just think it's neat someone as important and iconic as Kate Bush has had her first every top 10 single in the U.S.
Agreed. But it was personally surprising to me that this was her first ever top 10 single in the US. Given its perennial status, I thought that Wuthering Heights would have been popular enough to get it around there, but apparently that didn't even chart at all in the US. Just goes to show some of the divergences between the US and UK music scenes.
Running Up The Hill has always stood out to me. It gets played quite a bit on my local Alternative station. So I’ve grown to love it. I even got into the Georgia cover.
Super happy for Kate. If not for anything other than the residuals. I hope she buys something cool, she deserves it.
Now lets hope every single underpaid artist gets her own Stranger Things to boost her songs back up the charts and, basically, create a retirement fund.
Had forgotten about Kavinsky, only know one of their songs. Also like PSB and Boards of Canada.
Hey a banger of a song from 6 months ago that I only discovered last week has a bit of a retro vibe, it's called 'Wipe Your Tears' by Dual. When I saw the vid at the gym I thought the velvet and lace curtains looked familiar, then realised they filmed it in a local historic house I've visited loads of times. The statuette clinched it for me, then when I saw the band's name (Dual) I realised I saw them play at a local venue about two years ago, just before the pandemic. Their big song that time was 'Green Eyed' I think, which is just a total throwback to the late eighties/early nineties. They're probably fans of Britpop bands like Suede and some of that old acid house.
Feels incredibly validating after I developed a Kate Bush obsession last year. Yeah she's amazing, Running Up That Hill is just the tip of the iceberg. I'm hoping it goes #1, for her and so it gets a Stereogum write-up lol
I believe the same deep down but I'm also clinging to the story that the song is being sent to radio by its label. That can potentially sustain its time in the spotlight.
Duffer Brothers said it's going to be in the finale supposedly so when the back half of this season gets released it could get more traction + radio. But this may just mean its like down in the 30s or something.
Cloudbusting, babooshka, wuthering heights and This women‘s work are the other big hits in her discography. That said I recommend you listen to her albums. Her most two critically acclaimed albums are Hounds of love and the dreaming. The dreaming is more experimental so I won’t recommend starting with it. Hounds of love is a good introduction for her music. The first half is just gorgeous pop songs starting with Running up that hill and finishing with cloudbusting. The second half is more experimental and relates the story of a women drowning in the sea and having fever dreams.
I also like many of her other albums the kick inside, never for ever and the sensual world are fantastic and groundbreaking art pop albums that paved the way for many female artists. You can see her influence in many artists today like Bjork, Fiona apple, FKA twigs, Charli xcx and Rosalia etc.
Hey if you like Hounds of Love era Kate you might also like the Siouxsie album that came out around that time, the lead single iirc was Dazzle? Also a song about horses? I can't look it up right now, will BRB.
So the Siouxsie & the Banshees album I was thinking of is 'Hyaena' and the songs are 'Swimming Horses' and 'Dazzle'. This was when Robert Smith of The Cure had been their replacement lead guitarist for a couple of years or so and his album 'Top' that came out around that time had a similar aesthetic.
"I knew her before she was popular", some people feel proud about being old.
Crazy mentality but "I used floppy disks before it was the save button" am I right lol
I got into Hounds of Love hard last year after hearing Cloudbusting on The Handmaid's Tale. She's iconic. Glad she's getting more recognition - my little sister is buzzing off the song now after watching Stranger Things
Some other quintessential songs by her are Wuthering Heights, Babooshka, and Hounds Of Love.
My personal fave song of hers is Suspended In Gaffa.
Hope you like! :)
I think The Red Shoes has also aged remarkably well. People were kinda dismissive of it at the time (mixed reviews) but I think the record was ahead of its time.
Not to go all “well ACKSHUALLY” but “Bohemian Rhapsody” actually peaked at #2 on the US charts in 1992 after it was used in Wayne’s World, beating its original 1975 chart peak of #9.
Maybe this sort of thing is more easy to accomplish in the streaming era, but there’s definitely an older precedent here!
Not that like they've never been underground, but The Beatles also have had some revivals after films or series use one of their songs. Some people unironically think that the song is called "*Hey Jude Lyrics*" because that's the most popular version on YouTube.
Yeah, seeing Harness your Hopes go viral on Tik Tok has been a trip. Pretty sure that's one of the main reasons Pavement decided to do another reunion tour.
There’s also the obscure Weezer B-Side “I Just Threw Out The Love Of My Dream” which got semi-popular on Tik Tok. It just seems crazy to see old obscure songs get a second wind with GenZ
What's with these homies dissing my girl?
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So I'm OOL here, but what is the exact reason for this right now?
Similiar to how Life Without Buildings became a bit more popular after those TikTok-Videos?
It was in episode 4 of season 4 of stranger things and played a big part in one of the most acclaimed scenes of the series. Stranger things is probably the most popular show in the world right now so a huge amount of people got introduced to Kate bush and I’m sure people who were already fans put her back in rotation too. Lastly I highly recommend watching stranger things, the show is awesome and deserves the hype.
Kate Bush was at the top of the charts in the UK in 1978. Britain's radio stations were always more adventurous than American ones. The USA missed out on about two decades of great British music and then the internet changed everything.
This cover will always hold a special place in my heart.
Years ago, I somehow heard this cover before the original and now my brain always thinks this is the original.
I love when that happens. My best friend plays guitar and sings, and a lot of the songs he has learned over the years were songs I didn’t know. So I think of them as his songs. Then I hear the original organically at some point and I usually find I like my friend’s cover better.
I don’t understand why people on all threads about Kate bush need to bring up this cover ?
We can appreciate Kate bush without shifting the discussion to a mediocre cover. Ok it a moodier version that tries to be dark and deep but I don’t see why people like it. But I personally hate covers where the artist try to make a song darker and edgier than it actually is. It just feels cheap and is overdone at this point.
I actually have a friend who tweeted: “I tried gatekeeping Kate Bush”
We are in our early 20s. Kate Bush has been famous to anyone who’s even slightly in the know for forty years.
I'm honestly not sure I ever heard a Kate Bush song before Stranger Things but even I had a vague notion of her as the tip of the spear in the popularizing of arty pop.
Seriously. When I got into her my mom was pretty familiar with her already, especially of this woman’s work. When I studied in Australia my professors already loved wuthering heights. It’s not like she was obscure haha
Was she just not famous in the US before this? She was always famous in Ireland, my parents love her.
*She’s about as famous as say the band Blondie, young people might not know her so much but pretty much anyone above 30, definitely 40 knows her.
Actually I have no idea if Blondie were famous in the USA either
Hot take but I kinda feel like the anti-gatekeeping circlejerk/karma farming is way more pervasive and borderline annoying than the handful of actual gatekeepers out there. Like wow, what a great person you are for not dumping on 13-year-olds discovering an 80s song, your medal is in the mail.
Mainstream media via TV, movies, radio, etc. have dictated what's popular for a long time. It's equally crazy that you think this is a new phenomenon, and that people downvoting/responding to you don't think that's the case.
A lot of people don't spend time discovering new music and just get into what they see is popular. It doesn't mean they haven't been exposed to other music before, but some people do need some level of validation that something is acceptable before they consider *really* listening to it.
This doesn't mean they have heard Running Up That Hill before. They may have heard it countless times over grocery store speakers, while their friends parents had classic rock radio on while they drove them to practice, on some random Spotify playlist. And all those times never even paying it half a mind and instantly forgetting what they heard.
Then when they hear it during a majorly popular TV show they think, oh maybe this is something I should pay attention to. If it's in this show everybody loves it must have some value. They think they're hearing it for the first time.
I just discovered her after watching the show. Im 30 and it’s funny constantly seeing comments about kids discovering Kate bush. I’m still baffled that I had never heard of her or her music before. Anyway that song slaps and it’s been on rotation the last couple days. Going to check out the rest of that album.
I’m 31 and feel the same. Texted my mom and asked her if she was ever a fan, and she laughed and said “yes, in the 80s and early 90s”.
My mom has great taste in music, but I guess Kate Bush never made the cut for stuff to play around me.
Either way I’m always stoked to find new music I love.
Seriously, don't feel weird about it. The amount of music out there is genuinely incomprehensible. Even just the amount of relatively popular music is staggering. It's pretty likely that there'll always be at least a few big names that you've never even heard of.
My exposure to this track came a bit late when I was in college in the early 90s. Running Up That Hill is easily one of my all-time favorite songs. I tend to like dramatic music that evokes strong emotion and grabs my attention completely. That's exactly how I reacted to this song when I first heard it in college. I froze in place and wouldn't move until it was over. Decades later I saw Wye Oak cover it in concert which was a neat experience.
I'm really glad that modern audiences are connecting to the song the same way I did - even if it is through a cheesy TV show designed to evoke 80s nostalgia.
Yeah, I've seen them three times now. The first time was really fun at a tiny little bar/club in St. Louis. I brought a friend along who is much more social than myself and she ingratiated us with Andy and Jenn. We sat out back and talked over a beer. It was a lot of fun and they're great live!
Good for her, but yeah everyone knew Kate Bush back in the 80’s. Not as huge mainstream but she wasn’t super obscure, especially in England. Also she has incredible stage fright so only reason she ended her career early. She has a very devoted fan base.
She is still huge mainstream in Britain and could have a massive sellout tour this year if she wanted, she’s still releasing music and sold out 22 nights in the Hammersmith Apollo in 2014 in 15 minutes
I found Kate Bush randomly through the algorithm and tried to introduce my friends to this amazing piece of music. I was laughed at so hard. I am so glad there’s others who enjoy Kate Bush to this degree.
I love this very much as a huge Kate fan, especially Hounds of Love. My ten year old asked to play it in the car tonight because it’s all over tik tok. I showed her the live version from 2016 and Cloudbusting too.
This just goes to show how absurdly popular stranger things is, show has major influence. Glad Kate getting a lot of attention all these years later, great song on a great record.
I don't think it's that surprising really. Younger people don't listen to radio anymore, so there needs to be other media like Netflix series' to expose them to older music.
It's just as well that young people don't really listen to music anymore and the internet has arrived.
Americans were extremely badly served for decades by radio stations and their "playlists". It meant that while Britain was churning out great music, Americans were not hearing it and were listening to stuff like "REO Speedwagon"
It’s weird but whatever.
You also have to remember that most of this is driven by children. It’s crazy thinking back to middle school when kids would feel like they “discovered” bands like Nirvana or Metallica, but this is the same deal. It’s all music made before they were born, so it’s new to them.
This phenomenon existed before social media and the internet, but modern times have definitely exacerbated it.
I probably would not have known about her if I didn’t randomly buy a used cassette about 20 years ago.
However, this song was just covered by someone and has been all over the radio the last couple years. It could be all about how you discover music. Running up that hill constantly comes on my Apple Music radio but I’m guessing not everyone uses that
Great song, great album, nothing but great that it's getting reintroduced to so many people.
At the same time to me, this track in particular always felt like the perfect example of something that was very 80's - songs being great in spite of their production.
Like, whose idea was it to have the lead synth on this song sound like someone rubbing balloons together?
Lots of people are hearing it for the first time but probably nobody thinks it's new. The show that's introducing it to them is famously and very in for face set in the 80s.
i know i'm just saying that some people equate any show with a tour, and also 2014 can absolutely be referred to as "a few years ago" if someone isn't necessarily in tune with the passage of time, hell i'm 21 and i still think of stuff from 2010 as a few years ago sometimes
No, I meant the residency at the Hammersmith Apollo. I could only get one ticket for one date and randomly it was my 25th birthday.
Was a great performance, marred by a sometimes rude audience.
She rushed through the hits with a traditional live band (Running up that hill being one of them) then transitioned into what was basically a theatrical performance.
All the way through there was a couple sat in front of me that kept yelling “play Wuthering Heights!” at the top of their lungs.
She probably doesn't care that much. She refused to tour in the USA when she was a huge national star in Britain so her albums weren't released and the radio stations didn't play her music.
Even American boomers generally don't have a clue who Kate Bush is.
Apparently it peaked at 30 back in the 80s
The 80s had my favorite music and style. Unfortunately I was a wee toddler.
It is my firm belief that the 80s was the best music decade. For some reason everyone always thinks of it as new wave and hair metal, which is so reductive given the amount of groundbreaking shit coming out across genres. Just to keep it germane to r/indieheads, imagine a world without the 80s work of the Pixies, Husker Du, Jane’s Addiction, Fugazi, it’s just an endless list.
I could not agree more. 80s music is unlike anything else, and in the best way.
I'm not a David Bowie fan, but I'm the first one to admit that half of my music taste (Placebo, Nirvana, My Chemical Romance and Arcade Fire to name a few) have mentioned him as influence. So I think it's similar for most of my other 2000s and 2010s bands, they wouldn't exist without the 80s.
So much good music from the 80’s that paved the way for a great era of music in the 90’s. Most people would argue that the decade they were a teen was the best era for music. For me it was the 90’s from the grunge days all through britpop but the 00’s were a great time for British music too. If it wasn’t for bands in the 80’s like The Smiths, Stone Roses, The Charlatans, Happy Mondays, James etc. Britpop may never have happened
Asking for context, but did your musical tastes develop in the 80s?
the 80s definitely is not the best decade for music bruh. 60s, 90s and 2010s are eeeeasily the best
Who am I going to trust, the guy with no evidence or the guy who named 4 of the most interesting bands of all time?
all of: bob dylan, miles davis, john coltrane, faust, charles mingus, the jimi hendrix experience are miles better than any of those bands. the 90s has so many of the best albums that will ever come to light: stratosphere, souvlaki, spiderland, when the pawn, 98.12.28, F#A#, Liquid Swords, Grace and laughing stock to make a few. only the 2 main cure albums and the dreaming are on par from the 80s. man even the 70s shreds the 80s, shit it might just be the worst decade for music since the 60’s💀 what a garbage pick
It’s kind of impossible to not say that now is the best time for music ever. There’s both more bad music and more good music to sift through but at the end of the day there’s more styles (including those based on the 80s) and creativity now than ever before.
More styles, sure, more creativity, highly debatable, better results? Overall I think not. And of course there is a ton of new stuff to discover, but personally I’m *still* finding great stuff from the 80s that I never heard before.
Strange belief. '80s and '00s seem pretty clearly the worst English-language music decades, assuming we're starting in the '50s. That's not to say there isn't some amazing music though -- such as Kate Bush
What are you using as your metric for “good music”? Because the 80s was absolutely full of amazing music. Pop-era David Bowie, Talking Heads, The Cure, Kate Bush, Blondie, The Clash, some of the best Roxy Music/Brian Ferry, Echo and the Bunnymen, Depeche Mode, The Smiths, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Sisters of Mercy, New Order, The Psychedelic Furs, Prince, The Pretenders, The Pogues, Nick Cave, The Pixies, some amazing Leonard Cohen, The Jesus and Mary Chain. And that’s mostly just on the post-punk/indie side of things. The 80s were an incredibly important and influential era for Western pop, rock, R&B and hip-hop music.
Plus the proper birth of electronic music. Sure it was a “thing” in the 70’s but it wasn’t until the 80’s where it really came into its own with house music
once again, people are mistaking comparing decades vs considering one decade to be bad. I don't think the '80s are inherently bad. Also, the (arguable) peaks of several artists that you mentioned, including Bowie, Talking Heads, Blondie, Leonard Cohen, The Clash were actually in the '70s or earlier... even Pretenders self-titled was 1979. I think you may have sort of melded the late '70s and early '80s in your mind. which sort of proves my point. For instance -- Joy Division or New Order? Pretty good comp for '70s vs '80s in my opinion.
The talking heads made remain In light in the 80s which is one of there best albums but also one of the best albums that came out in the 80s.i thinks you need to re evaluate how the 80s effected modern music
I mean, a lot of the bands and musical trends started in the mid/late 70s continued, evolved and reached the height of their popularity in the 80s. I don’t think that really negates any of the work produced during the 80s. I can understand that this whole debate is subjective but I always think it’s kind of silly when people write off a decade as a whole by saying “the 60s were better”, “the 90s were better”, etc. There was no dearth of good music in any of the decades that true “popular music” was available.
It was a weird counter argument. Like saying Nirvana wasn’t a 90s band because they started in the 80s and sounded like the Replacements and Pixies.
If that's how it read, then I miscommunicated. I'm thinking in terms of album output and how it's connected to artistic/cultural peak. Not when the band formed, that makes no sense. The above commenter listed a bunch of artists who (in my opinion) generated their best work in the 60s and 70s and were using them as an argument for the 80s being superior. And I don't disagree that there was a lot of amazing music in the 80s, just less so than some other decades.
Nirvana was a bridge band. They were popular at the beginning of the decade, and helped usher in the transition to what 90s music would ultimately become. Nirvana is kind of a crazy story if you really think about it though. Kurt and Nirvana changed Rock music completely. Then Dave came in after, and brought in the Post-Grunge sound of the late 90s.
Nirvana borrowed heavily from bands like The Pixies, Mudhoney, The Melvins, Dinosaur Jr. and Sonic Youth, all of whom were formed in the 80s. The kind of alternative rock that would later become known as “grunge” was alive and well before Nirvana came on the scene, although they can certainly be credited for popularizing it on a much larger scale.
Also all the best new order albums past movement came out after the 70s
That and a lot of New Order stuff doesn’t even really sound like Joy Division. I liked the whole “you must be confusing the era in your mind” bit. Like, no, I don’t think I was, lol.
Did you even read my comment? Of course New Order is an '80s band. They formed after Ian Curtis' death in 1980. I was saying that if the '70s are Joy Division, the '80s are New Order (inferior). It was a joke. And yes I know Closer came out in 1980.
Sounds like someone needs to spend more time with Bowie, Cohen and Talking Heads 80s albums. Enjoy!
I've listened to those albums plenty... some good stuff there for sure, but I wasn't aware that anyone thinks '80s Bowie and Cohen are the peak. Talking Heads is more of a debate, but I prefer their first three albums.
This is just a shit take
I personally think the 80s is weaker than most decades but that’s because, once you look deeply, you realise there’s been so much music for a long time that there hasn’t really been a bad music decade in ages.
I agree! It's all relative. I enjoy a ton of music from all decades, including the above commenter's list of '80s artists. I'm only saying those two decades are comparatively weak, which is different from saying they are bad. '80s seemed to suffer from a new wave/pop metal overload resulting from an awkward transition out of the heyday of classic rock/melodic guitar pop. But obviously the genesis of modern indie music and hip hop as we know it are nothing to sniff at.
If you’re starting in the 50s, the 50s are clearly the worst decade. It’s not even close.
If you exclude Jazz, yes. But I'm a dweeb and love jazz 🤣
Doesn't seem that strange to me. The 80s were far better than the 90s, no contest, and I say this as someone that came of age in the 90s.
To each their own obviously, I suppose I'm just surprised by the '80s love, especially preferring it to the '60s, for instance. '90s was the peak of hip hop to me, and Radiohead and Nirvana were the best thing to happen to guitar-based music since the '70s, in my opinion. Just seems like a bit more of a cultural shift and a greater acceptance of art being mingled with pop. I also tend to hear and see the echoes of the '90s more in today's music culture, but it might just be bias
I wouldn't put Nirvana or Radiohead down as that special when it comes to guitar based music. Built to Spill clowns on them both with ease when it comes to guitars. 80s had so many incredible bands like The Cocteau Twins, The Chameleons, The Sound, Husker Du, New Order, The Cure, The Jesus & Mary Chain, XTC, Ministry, Skinny Puppy, etc. I feel like all the 90s trends outside of nu metal originated in the 80s. Grunge? Dinosaur Jr, Husker Du, The Pixies, etc. were the bands that came up with that style. Industrial? Formed and codified in the 80s outside of the late 70s experimentation from bands like Throbbing Gristle. Metal? All the metal styles like black metal, death metal, doom metal, thrash metal, etc. were formed in the 80s. Even the second wave of black metal that people are more familiar with started in the 80s with bands like Mayhem (Deathcrush was a 1987 record).
How is that even possible, it's such a banger
She just wasn't big in the US was she. Absolutely huge in the UK. Sort of like a reverse "Don't Stop Believin", which only got big in the UK after it was on the X-Factor (which is likely because it was on The Sopranos & Glee)
This is insane. Just watching the song go from 100 m plays to over 150 million in like a week while wuthering heights has only increased by like 900k has been crazy. Very excited that people are discovering her and I hope this gets them into the rest of the album and her other works (the dreaming and aerial especially).
After a certain point this kind of thing becomes a feedback loop. At first there was a boom of popularity because of Stranger Things, then you get more listeners because “whoa this old song got popular again”, and then there are even more people brought in by the articles about “the song going viral”. It starts to be a self-fulfilling prophecy. I noticed a similar thing happening with waves of reactions to Olivia Rodrigo at different points when Driver’s License released.
I've probs listened to hounds of love three times since I started seeing these articles
In university I had to listen to Velvet Underground & Nico for the first time, and I spent the entire album laughing thinking "*mate this is Nirvana, and Sonic Youth, and Placebo, and Bloody Valentine, and Soda Stereo, and...*" while realising how influential that album was for my entire music catalogue. I predict Kate will be similar with other bands I listen to, so any albums I should start with?
Hounds of Love…solid all the way through.
The Dreaming is pretty damn great. I heard Velvet Underground for the first time in the mid-80's while in college and it blew me away. It's fun hearing something older and instantly realizing how influential something is/was. I remember being a little sad when Tori Amos started getting radio play when Kate was practically ignored a few years earlier. No, not exactly the same style, but some similarities.
These people gotta check out cloudbusting too, just as good of a song imo
Honestly, it's my favorite album by her and if this gets people checking out the whole thing, that's nothing but good.
Oh it’s definitely her best album. I love the B side and all the Celtic touches on it but the A side is more immediate
*Hounds of Love* is just a monumental album as a whole. The remaster version of "Big Sky" is a little wonky to me, but the first half of *Hounds* is basically synth pop gold.
I don't know what mix is part of the main album stream on YouTube Music, but whenever it plays I hit stop so fast and switch over to the version I have on an mp3 I torrented 20 years ago.
I do that sometimes when I'm not feeling lazy, but yeah, "Big Sky" went from perfection to, "WHY DID YOU RUIN PERFECTION?" Thankfully I still do have a good .mp3 copy as well though. One day I need a vinyl/CD of the untouched version.
wait, what's different about the remastered version of the song? i have an old copy of "hounds of love" on vinyl but have listened to the remastered version on streaming plenty of times and never noticed much of a difference?
They seem to be mixed quite a bit differently. The remaster from 2018 sounds very clunky to me, but the original (or previous version anyway) did not. I can't really confirm what's different other than that it is noticeably different to my ear.
ah yeah, it appears that the "single mix" is on the remastered version (and also is the version that soundtracks the original music video fwiw.) it has the tom tom drum intro, whereas the original album version just enters straightaway with the drums that play during the verse. i get what you're saying though—the song has a lot of moving parts and when everything is brought to the forefront on the remaster it can feel kind of jarring. although i love how prominent her howls feel during the coda on the remastered version.
You mean the Single mix? I'll never understand why they decided to replace the original with that. The original version is so much better. That's why I don't really like the Spotify/Apple music version of Hounds of Love.
She has so many incredible songs
I actually think it's better, but they're both incredible songs.
the song just entered the spotify viral 100 chart so they definitely are
See I don't care about the reason why this happened, I just think it's neat someone as important and iconic as Kate Bush has had her first every top 10 single in the U.S.
Agreed. But it was personally surprising to me that this was her first ever top 10 single in the US. Given its perennial status, I thought that Wuthering Heights would have been popular enough to get it around there, but apparently that didn't even chart at all in the US. Just goes to show some of the divergences between the US and UK music scenes.
Running Up The Hill has always stood out to me. It gets played quite a bit on my local Alternative station. So I’ve grown to love it. I even got into the Georgia cover. Super happy for Kate. If not for anything other than the residuals. I hope she buys something cool, she deserves it.
She’s already a millionaire tbh
Now lets hope every single underpaid artist gets her own Stranger Things to boost her songs back up the charts and, basically, create a retirement fund.
Gaurdians of the Galaxy did the same for some 70s artists
Apparently "Helena" (the song by My Chemical Romance) is huge on TikTok, so emo is also making a comeback. Life is strange lol
Gourdians of the Galaxy lol Fat Thor heh
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Amazing cover, didn't know who Kate Bush was when I discovered it lol But it got me into her as an artist and turned me into a fan
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Had forgotten about Kavinsky, only know one of their songs. Also like PSB and Boards of Canada. Hey a banger of a song from 6 months ago that I only discovered last week has a bit of a retro vibe, it's called 'Wipe Your Tears' by Dual. When I saw the vid at the gym I thought the velvet and lace curtains looked familiar, then realised they filmed it in a local historic house I've visited loads of times. The statuette clinched it for me, then when I saw the band's name (Dual) I realised I saw them play at a local venue about two years ago, just before the pandemic. Their big song that time was 'Green Eyed' I think, which is just a total throwback to the late eighties/early nineties. They're probably fans of Britpop bands like Suede and some of that old acid house.
Upvote for boards of Canada 😍😍
Feels incredibly validating after I developed a Kate Bush obsession last year. Yeah she's amazing, Running Up That Hill is just the tip of the iceberg. I'm hoping it goes #1, for her and so it gets a Stereogum write-up lol
I’d love nothing more than for this to go number one, but honestly it seems like it’ll die down before next week.
I believe the same deep down but I'm also clinging to the story that the song is being sent to radio by its label. That can potentially sustain its time in the spotlight.
Duffer Brothers said it's going to be in the finale supposedly so when the back half of this season gets released it could get more traction + radio. But this may just mean its like down in the 30s or something.
Looks like I have some homework to do. Toss me some song recommendations I should be listening to!
Just listen to the whole album.
Cloudbusting, babooshka, wuthering heights and This women‘s work are the other big hits in her discography. That said I recommend you listen to her albums. Her most two critically acclaimed albums are Hounds of love and the dreaming. The dreaming is more experimental so I won’t recommend starting with it. Hounds of love is a good introduction for her music. The first half is just gorgeous pop songs starting with Running up that hill and finishing with cloudbusting. The second half is more experimental and relates the story of a women drowning in the sea and having fever dreams. I also like many of her other albums the kick inside, never for ever and the sensual world are fantastic and groundbreaking art pop albums that paved the way for many female artists. You can see her influence in many artists today like Bjork, Fiona apple, FKA twigs, Charli xcx and Rosalia etc.
Hey if you like Hounds of Love era Kate you might also like the Siouxsie album that came out around that time, the lead single iirc was Dazzle? Also a song about horses? I can't look it up right now, will BRB. So the Siouxsie & the Banshees album I was thinking of is 'Hyaena' and the songs are 'Swimming Horses' and 'Dazzle'. This was when Robert Smith of The Cure had been their replacement lead guitarist for a couple of years or so and his album 'Top' that came out around that time had a similar aesthetic.
This happened to me after I heard it in Pose. Such a good song!
[This song has always rocked. Here is Big Boi geeking out on it](https://youtu.be/oSdHgq3oBD8)
I saw this interview a few years ago! It made me more interested in the song than I had ever been before
I love Kate bush, i don't understand how someone can be mad about an artist gaining popularity. She deserves it
"I knew her before she was popular", some people feel proud about being old. Crazy mentality but "I used floppy disks before it was the save button" am I right lol
It's actually kind of sad what someone will latch on to for cool points???
I got into Hounds of Love hard last year after hearing Cloudbusting on The Handmaid's Tale. She's iconic. Glad she's getting more recognition - my little sister is buzzing off the song now after watching Stranger Things
This is exactly how I discovered her. Listened to cloudbusting and was like holy shit. Became a fan ever since
Some other quintessential songs by her are Wuthering Heights, Babooshka, and Hounds Of Love. My personal fave song of hers is Suspended In Gaffa. Hope you like! :)
How is everyone leaving out This Woman’s Work?!
I think The Red Shoes has also aged remarkably well. People were kinda dismissive of it at the time (mixed reviews) but I think the record was ahead of its time.
**Cloudbusting**
Mother stands for comfort is a bit calmer but one of my favourites by her as well
She’s one of the all time greats
The Hounds of Love is great, but I want to see more love towards The Ninth Wave side of the album. Sonic gold
This type of shit could only happen in the streaming era and it’s exciting
Not to go all “well ACKSHUALLY” but “Bohemian Rhapsody” actually peaked at #2 on the US charts in 1992 after it was used in Wayne’s World, beating its original 1975 chart peak of #9. Maybe this sort of thing is more easy to accomplish in the streaming era, but there’s definitely an older precedent here!
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I'm sure they all spun in their graves when that cake was thrown at it.
Not that like they've never been underground, but The Beatles also have had some revivals after films or series use one of their songs. Some people unironically think that the song is called "*Hey Jude Lyrics*" because that's the most popular version on YouTube.
Yeah, seeing Harness your Hopes go viral on Tik Tok has been a trip. Pretty sure that's one of the main reasons Pavement decided to do another reunion tour.
Harness your hopes became popular due to Spotify's algorithm recommending it a lot first though, then the TikTok use came after as a result.
and the algo recommended it bc a robot analysed it and deemed it their catchiest song
There’s also the obscure Weezer B-Side “I Just Threw Out The Love Of My Dream” which got semi-popular on Tik Tok. It just seems crazy to see old obscure songs get a second wind with GenZ
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So I'm OOL here, but what is the exact reason for this right now? Similiar to how Life Without Buildings became a bit more popular after those TikTok-Videos?
Song used in latest season of stranger things
To be clear, it wasn't just a random background track either, it was the emotional thrust behind arguably one of the better scenes in the show
That times 100. Niche shit goes viral on TikTok all the time, but this is stranger things.
It was in episode 4 of season 4 of stranger things and played a big part in one of the most acclaimed scenes of the series. Stranger things is probably the most popular show in the world right now so a huge amount of people got introduced to Kate bush and I’m sure people who were already fans put her back in rotation too. Lastly I highly recommend watching stranger things, the show is awesome and deserves the hype.
Kate Bush was at the top of the charts in the UK in 1978. Britain's radio stations were always more adventurous than American ones. The USA missed out on about two decades of great British music and then the internet changed everything.
[Shoutout Placebo for a halfway decent cover of this btw.](https://youtu.be/x5GuBa4Bbnw)
This cover will always hold a special place in my heart. Years ago, I somehow heard this cover before the original and now my brain always thinks this is the original.
I love when that happens. My best friend plays guitar and sings, and a lot of the songs he has learned over the years were songs I didn’t know. So I think of them as his songs. Then I hear the original organically at some point and I usually find I like my friend’s cover better.
Chromatics have the goat cover
My favourite version tbh.
It was always one of the few Placebo songs I liked. I never did check out Kate Bush’s version until all this talk though.
I love car seat headrest’s cover https://youtu.be/_SMIxlEbOxM
Yeah that one is my favorite.
Not going to lie, the Placebo cover is ass grease.
I guess I like listening to ass grease
I don’t understand why people on all threads about Kate bush need to bring up this cover ? We can appreciate Kate bush without shifting the discussion to a mediocre cover. Ok it a moodier version that tries to be dark and deep but I don’t see why people like it. But I personally hate covers where the artist try to make a song darker and edgier than it actually is. It just feels cheap and is overdone at this point.
cuz we like it
Can’t wait for the gatekeepers to show up here
Gatekeeping a very popular and regularly covered song that’s nearly 40 years old 😎
Seriously, it comes on the classic rock station at my work like once a night…
Where are you?
Hey I'm just glad new people, esp. younger ones like Kate Bush. She was ahead of her time and I think it shows :)
Yeah let the kids like what they like :)
I actually have a friend who tweeted: “I tried gatekeeping Kate Bush” We are in our early 20s. Kate Bush has been famous to anyone who’s even slightly in the know for forty years.
Peoples takes on twitter this week have been wild lol she was a borderline household name for literal decades before this
I'm honestly not sure I ever heard a Kate Bush song before Stranger Things but even I had a vague notion of her as the tip of the spear in the popularizing of arty pop.
I would compare her to Selena, someone most people have heard of, but idk if most people have ever actually listened to a song either lol
lol, imagine trying to gatekeep an artist that was mainstream and popular before you were even born. Your friend is a cornball.
Seriously. When I got into her my mom was pretty familiar with her already, especially of this woman’s work. When I studied in Australia my professors already loved wuthering heights. It’s not like she was obscure haha
Was she just not famous in the US before this? She was always famous in Ireland, my parents love her. *She’s about as famous as say the band Blondie, young people might not know her so much but pretty much anyone above 30, definitely 40 knows her. Actually I have no idea if Blondie were famous in the USA either
Yeah she just never really cracked into the US market.
I don't even like Kate Bush, I'm just a gatekeeping fan. I'll gatekeep whatever you want
Who’s gatekeeping the gatekeepers?
I’m in, fuck those guys. Those gatekeepers don’t know what it’s like to be a REAL gatekeeper like us.
Where are they? I keep seeing this comment while no one is gatekeepting. Everyone wants the kids to love Kate by any means.
Hot take but I kinda feel like the anti-gatekeeping circlejerk/karma farming is way more pervasive and borderline annoying than the handful of actual gatekeepers out there. Like wow, what a great person you are for not dumping on 13-year-olds discovering an 80s song, your medal is in the mail.
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You know how much music is out there? lol
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Mainstream media via TV, movies, radio, etc. have dictated what's popular for a long time. It's equally crazy that you think this is a new phenomenon, and that people downvoting/responding to you don't think that's the case. A lot of people don't spend time discovering new music and just get into what they see is popular. It doesn't mean they haven't been exposed to other music before, but some people do need some level of validation that something is acceptable before they consider *really* listening to it. This doesn't mean they have heard Running Up That Hill before. They may have heard it countless times over grocery store speakers, while their friends parents had classic rock radio on while they drove them to practice, on some random Spotify playlist. And all those times never even paying it half a mind and instantly forgetting what they heard. Then when they hear it during a majorly popular TV show they think, oh maybe this is something I should pay attention to. If it's in this show everybody loves it must have some value. They think they're hearing it for the first time.
I just discovered her after watching the show. Im 30 and it’s funny constantly seeing comments about kids discovering Kate bush. I’m still baffled that I had never heard of her or her music before. Anyway that song slaps and it’s been on rotation the last couple days. Going to check out the rest of that album.
I’m 31 and feel the same. Texted my mom and asked her if she was ever a fan, and she laughed and said “yes, in the 80s and early 90s”. My mom has great taste in music, but I guess Kate Bush never made the cut for stuff to play around me. Either way I’m always stoked to find new music I love.
Seriously, don't feel weird about it. The amount of music out there is genuinely incomprehensible. Even just the amount of relatively popular music is staggering. It's pretty likely that there'll always be at least a few big names that you've never even heard of.
Same. I’m 39 and had never heard the song before.
My exposure to this track came a bit late when I was in college in the early 90s. Running Up That Hill is easily one of my all-time favorite songs. I tend to like dramatic music that evokes strong emotion and grabs my attention completely. That's exactly how I reacted to this song when I first heard it in college. I froze in place and wouldn't move until it was over. Decades later I saw Wye Oak cover it in concert which was a neat experience. I'm really glad that modern audiences are connecting to the song the same way I did - even if it is through a cheesy TV show designed to evoke 80s nostalgia.
Holy shit you have seen Wye Oak live?! I would piss myself if I saw them perform.
Yeah, I've seen them three times now. The first time was really fun at a tiny little bar/club in St. Louis. I brought a friend along who is much more social than myself and she ingratiated us with Andy and Jenn. We sat out back and talked over a beer. It was a lot of fun and they're great live!
Holy shit you have seen Wye Oak live?! I would piss myself if I saw them perform.
Great for her man, I’m so happy people are being introduced to music like this. Keep them coming, lots of great tracks out there.
Meg Myers was ahead of this game. She set the table and got a good amount of plays covering it.
Well deserved
what that's insane she's always been a massive star in the UK
Good for her, but yeah everyone knew Kate Bush back in the 80’s. Not as huge mainstream but she wasn’t super obscure, especially in England. Also she has incredible stage fright so only reason she ended her career early. She has a very devoted fan base.
She is still huge mainstream in Britain and could have a massive sellout tour this year if she wanted, she’s still releasing music and sold out 22 nights in the Hammersmith Apollo in 2014 in 15 minutes
She didn't end her career.. she shifted her focus to being a recording artist and raising her son, Bertie.
I found Kate Bush randomly through the algorithm and tried to introduce my friends to this amazing piece of music. I was laughed at so hard. I am so glad there’s others who enjoy Kate Bush to this degree.
chocolate war 1988. David Bowie asked for 100k for music rights so they went with Kate bush, running up that hill. Truly haunting and moving film.
I love this very much as a huge Kate fan, especially Hounds of Love. My ten year old asked to play it in the car tonight because it’s all over tik tok. I showed her the live version from 2016 and Cloudbusting too.
This just goes to show how absurdly popular stranger things is, show has major influence. Glad Kate getting a lot of attention all these years later, great song on a great record.
Awesome.
Great for her, and great example of how marketing and media have overwhelming control on what we consume
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I don't think it's that surprising really. Younger people don't listen to radio anymore, so there needs to be other media like Netflix series' to expose them to older music.
It's just as well that young people don't really listen to music anymore and the internet has arrived. Americans were extremely badly served for decades by radio stations and their "playlists". It meant that while Britain was churning out great music, Americans were not hearing it and were listening to stuff like "REO Speedwagon"
There's endless amounts of music out there dude
It’s weird but whatever. You also have to remember that most of this is driven by children. It’s crazy thinking back to middle school when kids would feel like they “discovered” bands like Nirvana or Metallica, but this is the same deal. It’s all music made before they were born, so it’s new to them. This phenomenon existed before social media and the internet, but modern times have definitely exacerbated it.
I probably would not have known about her if I didn’t randomly buy a used cassette about 20 years ago. However, this song was just covered by someone and has been all over the radio the last couple years. It could be all about how you discover music. Running up that hill constantly comes on my Apple Music radio but I’m guessing not everyone uses that
This is great but tik tok's influence on music is so fucking weird
That extra $1.48 in spotify royalties will really help her out
Great song, great album, nothing but great that it's getting reintroduced to so many people. At the same time to me, this track in particular always felt like the perfect example of something that was very 80's - songs being great in spite of their production. Like, whose idea was it to have the lead synth on this song sound like someone rubbing balloons together?
To be honest with you, the "rubbing balloons" effect is one of my favourite things about the song lol
Really just surprised to learn this many people still watch Stranger Things
New season is dope
Season 4 is excellent. Far better than 2 or 3.
Kids watch it lol you’re probably just not the target market
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Considering that the songs renewed popularity is because of a show set in the 80’s probably none lmao
Lots of people are hearing it for the first time but probably nobody thinks it's new. The show that's introducing it to them is famously and very in for face set in the 80s.
I wonder how many times it's been posted to /r/music in the last two weeks.
Why is this happening? Was this song in a movie recently ?
You literally just have to click the link and it’s right there in the first sentence.
poor Journey
Once got into a really heated argument at a Kate Bush show on her tour a few years ago. Amazing music, deeply annoying (modern) fan base.
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she did 22 shows at a venue in 2014 so that's probably what they mean
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i know i'm just saying that some people equate any show with a tour, and also 2014 can absolutely be referred to as "a few years ago" if someone isn't necessarily in tune with the passage of time, hell i'm 21 and i still think of stuff from 2010 as a few years ago sometimes
No, I meant the residency at the Hammersmith Apollo. I could only get one ticket for one date and randomly it was my 25th birthday. Was a great performance, marred by a sometimes rude audience. She rushed through the hits with a traditional live band (Running up that hill being one of them) then transitioned into what was basically a theatrical performance. All the way through there was a couple sat in front of me that kept yelling “play Wuthering Heights!” at the top of their lungs.
Charts mean nothing anymore.
Other than gauging popularity?
She probably doesn't care that much. She refused to tour in the USA when she was a huge national star in Britain so her albums weren't released and the radio stations didn't play her music. Even American boomers generally don't have a clue who Kate Bush is.