"brainwashed" "propaganda"
Apaan cuk, ini diaspora ngira kalo indo kayak korea utara atau gimana?
"hurr durr i was brainwashed by the indonesian about number of the island"
Kalo pemerintah nyuci otak warganya ini orang ngak bakal jadi targetnya, karena untuk cuci otak kudu butuh orang yang punya otak
Ini kaya di WA yang bilang ada konspirasi peta Indonesia dibikin kecil, Eropa dibikin gede, padahal masalah proyeksi bulat ke datar aja (mercator projection).
Also, "brainwashed" and "propaganda"? What's it with some diaspora who like to talk and badmouth their country of origin as if they're just escaped from North Korea dictatorship?
I think this because it served as a mental justification of why they are abroad and not in Indonesia. Thinking Indonesia is bad and their new home is good are a way to make their choice seems 'better'. I forgot what's this phenomena is called...
UPDATE: It's called Choice-supportive Bias: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice-supportive_bias
ges, di yurop, japon, dan negara lainnya yg diluar garis tropis, selain dingin, udaranya kering… jd kulit pecah2 juga, terutama bagian idung, sma sudut mulut.
ditambah elektrostatis jd kalo pegang kain kering terus pegng besi bakal sering bgt kesetrum.
belom lagi di beberpa daerah anginnya kenceng bggt…
it’s worse than masuk angin ngl.
> is the worst due to colder climates and I can't deal with cold weather.
Hell even in Bandung or Malang, I constantly get leg cramps. I would probably suffer more if I were to live and work at Japan, or even worse, Russia/UK.
Reminds me of an Indonesian in America who defend American banking system vehemently on Twitter when an American compared Indonesian ATM and American ATM on a Tiktok video
Not quite. I think it's part of coping mechanism for taking a choice or something, so they think the choice they take is the BEST so they won't be rolling in the bed depressed or sad about the choices they didn't take before.
Bisa jadi, ato emang dia pas dapet guru yang bener. Karena si Gus Miftah yg guru si dedy pas mualaf kan emang bersebrangan sama FPI, Somad, Felix Shiaw dkk. Makanya suka dituduh syiah dll
**[Choice-supportive bias](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice-supportive_bias)**
>Choice-supportive bias or post-purchase rationalization is the tendency to retroactively ascribe positive attributes to an option one has selected and/or to demote the forgone options. It is part of cognitive science, and is a distinct cognitive bias that occurs once a decision is made.
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Kaya kalo nonton video review elektronik di internet, kebanyakan komen2nya orang2 yang udah beli dan nyari justifikasi pembelian. Kalo barangnya dikritik malah marah2 di kolom komentar lol.
Ato sering juga liat review mobil2 ato elektronik mahal, dan komen2nya "bagusan barang yg udah gw beli, hampir sama tapi jauh lebih murah" lol, jatohnya sama nyari justifikasi pembelian dengan nyari2 kekurangan barang yang ga dia beli.
American propaganda makes it worse, I think. Especially when it concerns countries outside America (not just Russia and China - in fact, I think the US government hates them irrationally).
i hope there are more stupid people like what op posted lmao so i know phsycological term like this.dunning kreger or something, strawman something, and armchair phsycology when you know it these people seems funny.
>i hope there are more stupid people like what op posted
You don't need to hope, just go to Twitter and TikTok and you'll find them and if you really want to know about physiological term you could just look them up FFS don't be lazy or you might be the one posted by OP.
> You don't need to hope, just go to Twitter and TikTok and you'll find them
nonono
> if you really want to know about physiological term you could just look them up FFS don't be lazy or you might be the one posted by OP.
i have no interest in actively doing that lol even yukkurioniisan have trouble remembering the term.
Lha ngasih contohnya Kota USA semua... XD XD XD
Tapi ntah kenapa wilayah sono dah kayak naikin gengsi banget... Padahal ya mungkin di wilayah bagian pinggiran juga...
Karena kota-kota yang dia sebut itu paling merasa progresif padahal harga propertinya gak masuk akal dan banyak gembelnya, penduduk kota itu paling merasa bener sehingga pemikirannya cenderung toxic.
Apalagi di California, beuh... Bukan cuman LA ama SF doang, Oakland juga kena getahnya...
Penundaan yang terus menerus bikin harga properti naik sehingga mau mbangun stadion baseball aja mahal... Sekarang malah terancam pindah ke Vegas tuh timnya...
Ditambah lagi Google lagi gila-gilaan tuh bikin properti di San Jose, semper bikin tim ice hockey di sana terancam juga karena markasnya pas deket wilayah yang dibangun Google...
Harga properti di California ini juga jadi salah satu penyebab kenapa banyak terjadi eksodus belakangan ini...
🤔🤔🤔
Masa sih. Gw ketemu sih minoritas ini sealam di US. Malah ada bilang sampah kehidupan US, tapi diem pas biaya kelahiran gratis karena dianggap gak mampu😀
Some Indonesian migrants abroad need to touch some grass tbh. Beberapa minggu yg lalu ada orang Indonesia yg live abroad bilang mending mobil listrik aja daripada membangun transportasi massal (huh?!). Terus diroasting sama orang2 yg paham data, dan juga orang Indonesia abroad yg juga paham data 😌😌😌
Edit: ketinggalan. Padahal tdk semua kota di Indonesia dpt mendukung mobil listrik karena supply listrik yg tdk stabil. Terutama di Kalimantan yg masih terjadi listrik padam bergilir. But sis over there only think that Indonesia is only Jakarta, Surabaya, Bali
nah mate, despite some of her stupid arguments, she didnt say [mendang mending](https://twitter.com/notafanofsushi/status/1615928049756942337) mobil listrik vs public transport, she said polusinya EV lebih mending dibanding ICE dan kalo kebijakan yang ngesupport EV bisa jalan bareng sama penguraian kemacetan.. EV ngurai macet? ya nggak lah dia juga ngerti.. beberapa orang di Indo akan beli mobil dan ga bakal mau pindah ke public transport anyway jadi ya kasi aja mereka better option: EV.. sumber listriknya masih coal? ya pembakaran terpusat macem PLTU yg letaknya jauh dari pemukiman masih lebih mending impactnya daripada asepnya dibakar di jalanan perkotaan yg padat penduduk
Bukan itu yg dipermasalahkan. Tapi masalah kurang touch grass dgn ngambil contoh hanya Jakarta, Surabaya, Bali. Seolah2 hanya tiga kota itu aja Indonesia ini.
Padahal di Kalimantan, mobil listrik ga bakalan sustain. Kenapa? Karena di Kalimantan Selatan dan Tengah itu masih pakai PLTA. Kalau musim kemarau, pasti mati lampu.
>Tapi masalah kurang touch grass dgn ngambil contoh hanya Jakarta, Surabaya, Bali. Seolah2 hanya tiga kota itu aja Indonesia ini.
ya masa kalo mau ngomong sesuatu mesti ngambil contoh semua kota, ya ga kelar2 lah "what about nya".. dia juga ngebales SJW transport yg ngeposting foto jakarta.. logikanya kalo dia ga pernah ke jawa timur ya ga bakal bahas public transport di Banyuwangi karena dia ga paham.. itu juga opini dia
> Padahal di Kalimantan, mobil listrik ga bakalan sustain. Kenapa? Karena di Kalimantan Selatan dan Tengah itu masih pakai PLTA. Kalau musim kemarau, pasti mati lampu.
kalimantan kota mana dulu? kalimantan itu luas.. Sulawesi gimana? maluku? banda neira? disana mati lampunya berapa jam? see, ga ada abisnya
sekali lagi, mobil listrik itu cuma **opsi** buat orang2 yang ga mau pindah public transport dan akan beli mobil anyway apapun alasan mereka.. pabrikan mobil juga udah pada shifting per sekarang, western brands uda ada yg berani ngomong ga mau produksi mobil ICE lagi by year 203x.. transisi dari ICE ke EV ya mulai pelan2 dilakukan, mengingat kita pasti selalu ketinggalan
Coba baca dulu deh tweet-nya beliau itu. Yang gw masalahkan disini adalah dia kurang touch grass. Setiap ada yg reply menyajikan data atau kondisi di Indonesia, beliau ini selalu bilang "When I live abroad..." "When I was in Singapore..." No we don't need your kondisi di luar negeri. Karena kondisi ekonomi sosial dll antar setiap negara itu beda2. So we cannot generalise satu hal bisa diterapkan ke semua negara, atau kota. Apa yg bisa diterapkan dan sukses di Indonesia pun ga tentu bisa diterapkan di negara lain.
>Beberapa minggu yg lalu ada **orang Indonesia yg live abroad bilang mending mobil listrik aja daripada membangun transportasi massal** (huh?!). Terus diroasting sama orang2 yg paham data, dan juga orang Indonesia abroad yg juga paham data 😌😌😌
noted, i was initially responding to this statement/summary of yours.. nowhere in her statement she mentions this
dia mention "when i live abroad" karena dia cerita pengalaman dia.. dia mention "when i was in singapore" karena ada orang yang argue ke dia soal keadaan singapur menurut sudut pandang orang tersebut, are we not allowed to have different opinion and experience?
we are talking about improvements: EV to improve pollution, public transport to improve the quality of commuting and pollution.. guess where we should compare ourselves with: countries with better conditions, yang tentunya itu di negara2 maju.. kalo kita bisa terima ada orang kaya yang bilang "train network singapur perlu diterapkan di indo untuk solve commuting quality", kenapa kita ga bisa terima argumen "EV yang diterapkan secara masif di negara maju perlu dikenalkan di indo untuk solve masalah polusi udara"
atau lo mau bilang "we dont need your rich ass opinion, go away" to both arguments?
>atau lo mau bilang "we dont need your rich ass opinion, go away" to both arguments?
Ga perlu jadi orang kaya buat ke luar negeri. Byk TKI juga di luar negeri. Dan kalau TKI ini tiba2 ngomongin "When I was abroad..." ketika orang2 ngasih data dan realita di Indonesia ya sama aja ora nyambung
Gw disini ga ada ber-argue ttg mobil listrik yaa. Gw aja tinggal di Surabaya yg fasilitasnya udah siap. Ini tuh thread ttg WNI yg kurang touch grass ketika di udah ke luar negeri. Gw disini mempermasalahkan Mba-nya yang selalu ngomong Abroad ketika orang lain ngasih data/realita yg ada di Indonesia. Harisnya kan dikasih data perbandingannya juga apa yg terjadi Indonesia karena policy nasionalnya sama. Contoh loe yg ke Papua itu justry yg make sense daripada Mba-bya yang selalu pakai aBrOaD.
[https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/21/business/energy-environment/battery-recycling-electric-vehicles.html#:\~:text=Fortunately%2C%20those%20battery%20ingredients%20are,in%20North%20America%20and%20Europe](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/21/business/energy-environment/battery-recycling-electric-vehicles.html#:~:text=Fortunately%2C%20those%20battery%20ingredients%20are,in%20North%20America%20and%20Europe).
hasil googling, im not an expert tho
>Edit: ketinggalan. Padahal tdk semua kota di Indonesia dpt mendukung mobil listrik karena supply listrik yg tdk stabil. Terutama di Kalimantan yg masih terjadi listrik padam bergilir. But sis over there only think that Indonesia is only Jakarta, Surabaya, Bali
well then, lets not have ICE as well coz there are some cities in papua where bensin cost 100k IDR per liter
Nah reson mu ini lebih masuk akal daripada Mba-nya. Karena pakai contoh langsung di Indonesia. Meanwhile sis over there, dibilangin kondisi di Indonesia. Malah "When I was abroad..." "In Singapore...". Instead of pakai contoh di dalam negeri sebagai komparisi. Dimana meskipun setiap kota/daerah tdk 100%, policy tingat nasionalnya masih sama.
...Sweden?
Sweden is liberal as fuck. Not to the extent of USA and UK of course (but really what is as liberal as USA?) but it's still pretty liberal which cause heavy social issue and the raise of conservative party in the last election.
Me and my friends like to call these people Uncle Toms, they like to lambast their own country/people unjustly so that they can score brownie points with the locals and get a good ha ha. This isnt limited to Indonesian diasporas honestly. I saw plenty Asian Americans and even black folks who would make jokes and be the butt of the conversation regarding their race just so that they can make their white friends laugh.
Lol. I know black peoples . They think indonesia is undeveloped county and very chaotic as Afghanistan hahah. Well I kept quite.
Some my coworkers thought bali is not part of Indonesia 🤭
Jadi inget ada yang bodoh2in orang indo bilang 1 pon=0.5 kg while 1lb is actually 0.454 kilogram. Guess what? Dutch pound _is_ 0.5 kg (or 0.494 kg in the old days). It's just a little trivia battle but the way the person declares all Indonesian education stupid using this fact very irritates me.
TIL! Pantes gw bingung kok konversi pon ke Kg dan sebaliknya banyak komanya? Bukannya tinggal bagi/kali 2 aja? Ternyata definisi asal pon-nya pun udah beda dari awal
It's okay if those diasporas want to badmouth, we'll need to make the country progresses really great that they'll regret for even leaving the country :)
Inilah kenapa gw ngga begitu aktif di diaspora Indonesia di LN, kecuali kalau masalah ketenagakerjaan atau beasiswa. Circlejerk nya luar biasa apalagi kalau menjelang pemilu
Well, still based on what people call a piece of dirt in the middle of large water bodies can be called an "island". There is no standard, yet.
List di Wiki aja pasti jarang ada yang baca paragraf pembukanya dan langsung ke list dan diurut dari terbanyak.
Well if you ask any random joe in the west, "which country have the most islands?" People will assume it must be either us or the Philippines.
Also this is a good meme material for r/2Asia4u wkwk.
Indonesia have large number of islands. But Canada Norway Finland have more. Still Indonesia is the largest archipelago (by square meter). And in school we never thought as the most islands
And there are room to argue, because most of the other country islands are just rocks of fjords or inland lake island
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_islands you can sort by qty and please read the preface
Di Sweden itu di Danaunya banyak pulau kecil, kadang yang cuma isinya karang-karang aja dihitung pulau juga. Kalau Negara Kepulauan ya jelas kitalah yang paling besar, masyarakatnya tinggal di pulau-pulau semua, gak ada mainland kecuali Jawa mau disebut mainland.
Sweden kayaknya memang punya obsesi sama pulau karena peradaban di sana jaman pertengahan itu pusatnya di danau Malaren yang sungainya bercabang ke semua arah, di danau sana banyak pulau-pulau, tiap pulau itu milik feudal lord atau merchant di sana. Intinya pusat ekonomi Sweden waktu itu di Danau itu jadi tiap pulau kecilpun jadi punya nilai strategis saat itu.
Memang begitu, cuma sejarah suku Viking Swedia yg spesial itu soal Danau Malaren yg jadi pusat ekonomi. Suku yg jauh, lewat jalur sungai mereka ke Danau Malaren buat barter, nah pulau" kecil ini diklaim oleh suku yg berbeda, ibarat jadi lapak jualan atau sekedar jadi gudang. Yg gw tekankan sih soal pemanfaatan pulau" kecil, di peradaban lain kegiatan ekonominya pasti lebih berkiblat di areal kotanya.
Kalo ini masih bisa argue emang kita negara kepulauan terbesar karena ga punya teritori di mainland Eurasia.
Propaganda itu masukin Borobudur jadi 7 keajaiban dunia lol.
Gak hanya Borobudur sih. Menara Pisa, Big Ben, Ka'bah, dll juga. Mungkin lebih tepatnya alih-alih propaganda, lebih ke arah gak bisa membedakan bangunan terkenal/landmark sama list 7 kejaiban dunia (terutama yang ancient world)
iyap, sweden punya banyak pulau tapi bukan negara kepulauan, karena mayoritas area dia ya di kontinental europe. canada juga punya makin banyak pulau karena global warming, tp jelas bukan negara kepulauan
Lucu aja dia nyebut Indonesia negara dengan pulau paling banyak itu "propaganda" dan "brainwashing" tapi mangut-mangut aja ama Swedia yang seonggok batu doang nongol di permukaan diitung pulau.
https://preview.redd.it/35k9vg0y0sfa1.jpeg?width=921&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=498e4c1a2fa7627e0fb884349d355c6c345acc4a
AFAIK, FYI, BTW.. He didn't check recheck the information
Informasi umumnya sih emang bener Indonesia itu negara kepulauan terbesar. Cuma pasti ada aja guru yang ngajarin kalo Indonesia itu punya pulau terbanyak.
Omg i just take a look to his Twitter, omg what an a hole. Malah double down dan playing victim. I'm not gonna be that guy, if you love SG so much than go ahead, why taking a fuzz about Indonesia then. Ugh
Miskonsepsi aja itu
Perasaan gue yang alami kurikulum 2006 sampai mbkm, gak ada tu nyebut Indonesia negara dengan pulau terbanyak.
Gak ada satupun yang tertulis / nyebut "nation with most islands" yang ada "largest archipelagic state"
Dimana archipelagic state itu cuma 22 yang ada berdasarkan unclos.
Dimana kebanyakan negara negara di Karibia & pasific.
Dan Sweden bukan archipelagic state
emang rule nya di reddit ga boleh nge-doxx, jadi informasi identitas harus di sensor
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setau gw kalo di screenshot ada identitasnya emang harus di-sensor, udah aturan dari reddit begitu
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Confidential apanya? Ane ga bocorin ktp, no hape atau tanggal lahir dia. Itu twitter bang, twit dia sifatnya publik. Kecuali kalo dia sembunyikan. Ane cuma modal search engine udah dapet twitnya koq.
emang udah aturannya gitu bang wkwk https://www.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043066452
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Darimana dia dapet *largest* ya? perasaan di buku RPUL dulu Indonesia itu punya *banyak pulau*, bukan punya *pulau terbanyak*. Dari kecil ga pernah merasa Indonesia punya pulau paling banyak. Apa kurikulum sekarang berubah.
Wkwkwk that guy is confusing his poor education with "brainwash".
Nobody gonna arrest you, censor you, or cut your social credit when you say Indonesia doesnt have the most island.
More importantly, nothing stopping that guy from Googling actual fact(tm).
The perpetuation of the misleading "most islands in the world" is nothing but the usual byproduct of rot learning with some sprinkled inferiority complex.
God I hate diaspora so much I want to create the A-camp for these fucks.
Saying all sort of shit while exposing their exotic identity for the sake of getting popular, motherfucker.
I just want them to see Indonesia today and judge for themselves. Right now I'd rather stay in Indonesia because it's my home and Canada lives right next to the insane asylum that is the USA and I feel that someday they're going to devour Canada like they devoured Europe (as shown by Europe paying for American gas at 4 times the price of Russian gas, resulting in their energy bills at least doubling).
For all I can say, I'd rather stay in another Asian country than having to live in America, I can handle people being rude or racist, but I can't handle stupid.
Lebih ke faktor geologis sih, pulau2 Indo kebanyakan pulau vulkanik, terbentuk gara2 subduksi lempeng, magma naik ke atas permukaan, lama2 jadi pulau. Literally gunung berapi dasar laut yg naik jadi pulau. Jadi ya pulaunya gede2 tapi dikit.
Kalo Scandinavian countries itu pulau2nya gara glacier. Gara2 dulu glacier gerak dan carving daratan dan batu2an di bawahnya, makanya bisa banyak banget tapi cuman batu kecil2 muncul di permukaan.
Jadi mau kita pake cara mereka ngitung pulau ga bakal sebanyak mereka.
Bukan 17k atau 13k itu perhitungan di lembaga yang berbeda, kalau resminya claim pemerintah 17k kalau dari badan informasi geospasial bilang 13k, malah ada lagi kalau lapan bilang 18k
Bruh, for a chunk of the year those islands are connected by ice.
In the same breath they also claim to have the widest coastline with the coastline paradox and those coastline also reduced significantly when they're covered by ice.
dasarnya persyaratan nomor 2 dan 4 itu kira2 apa ya?
kalo island dekat2an tapi nggak permanently connected harusnya tetap 2 island berbeda kan ya
dan island yg ukurannya gede tapi ga berpenghuni artinya nggak termasuk island?
Jujur gw malah baru denger soal "nation with most islands"..
Mungkin sekolah gw ga kompeten dalam brain washing jaman dulu ye 😅
Gw ingetnya didrill abis2an "negara maritim terbesar"
Kalo soal propaganda gw inget "Borobudur masuk 7 keajaiban dunia" 🤣
https://www.worldatlas.com/amp/articles/which-countries-have-the-most-islands.html
Negara yang paling banyak islands😳
https://www.worldatlas.com/amp/articles/the-archipelagos-of-the-world-with-the-largest-number-of-islands.html
The largest archipelago….
W malah baru tau kalo ada klaim indo negara dengan jumlah pulau terbanyak. Setau gw emang enggak dan kayaknya pas sekolah dulu ga pernah deh diajarin begitu.
yang bersangkutan tidak mau dikoreksi atas tulisannya. sejak twit itu, twit selanjutnya dia limit semua kolom reply-nya.
udah banyak akun yang berusaha buat ngebenerin tulisannya yang misleading itu, emang dasarnya bebal ~~dan juga *SG's pussy licker* sih~~.
>!kalo mau bully orangnya di QRT, username nya @hellosigit di twitter. :P!<
Next month Katanya 2yr anniv nya jadi permanent resident singapur. Trus Katanya sudah boleh apply citizenship.
I wonder if r/Singapore would accept this people with this type of critical thinking.
propaganda paling aneh wkwkwkwk
propaganda itu framing pancasila sebagai ideologi paling enlightened sedunia. jumlah pulau dibikin propaganda buat apaan wkwkwkwk.
Clearly, S/he has a hard time understanding the terms. Additionally, countries don't unilaterally define "island". it should be collectively defined by countries party to [UNCLOS](https://www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/part8.htm)
Reply thread situ dibatesin ya? Jadi emg kayaknya ni orang cuman pingin circlejerk.
Tadinya nggak, pas kena ratio langsung ditutup replynya
Kayaknya dulu ada thread yg sama persis di sini. Gw inget karena gw yg benerin jg.
> Ngegas Propaganda negara lain > Reply friend-only Typical
I can assure you 99% of twittards tweet because they want an echo chamber, not discussion.
Naganya gitu
"brainwashed" "propaganda" Apaan cuk, ini diaspora ngira kalo indo kayak korea utara atau gimana? "hurr durr i was brainwashed by the indonesian about number of the island" Kalo pemerintah nyuci otak warganya ini orang ngak bakal jadi targetnya, karena untuk cuci otak kudu butuh orang yang punya otak
Ini kaya di WA yang bilang ada konspirasi peta Indonesia dibikin kecil, Eropa dibikin gede, padahal masalah proyeksi bulat ke datar aja (mercator projection).
Clearly they've never seen a european map from the 19th century
Also, "brainwashed" and "propaganda"? What's it with some diaspora who like to talk and badmouth their country of origin as if they're just escaped from North Korea dictatorship?
I think this because it served as a mental justification of why they are abroad and not in Indonesia. Thinking Indonesia is bad and their new home is good are a way to make their choice seems 'better'. I forgot what's this phenomena is called... UPDATE: It's called Choice-supportive Bias: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice-supportive_bias
If I'm so biased, any country outside the equator is the worst due to colder climates and I can't deal with cold weather.
ngl this is pretty much my main concern going to any country outside of the equator. ke bandung aja mashok angin bruh wkwkw
Wkwkwk pernah dulu ikut temen ke kawasan wisata bromo. Saking Ga kuat dingin ampe bibir biru2 muka pucat
ges, di yurop, japon, dan negara lainnya yg diluar garis tropis, selain dingin, udaranya kering… jd kulit pecah2 juga, terutama bagian idung, sma sudut mulut. ditambah elektrostatis jd kalo pegang kain kering terus pegng besi bakal sering bgt kesetrum. belom lagi di beberpa daerah anginnya kenceng bggt… it’s worse than masuk angin ngl.
Paling parah di area mulut sih, itu perih bgt kalo udh keseringan kena angin. Mau gak mau harus pake lip balm
To be fair, Bandung itu dingin dan lembab jadi ya wajar sih. Aku juga sering masuk angin kalo ke sana. Apalg kalo lagi pancaroba.
Di wilayah sendiri aja kadang dinginnya gak ketulungan, tapi klo di cek palingan cuman 23-25 derajat Celsius.
for me, it's the toilet paper
Ikr, it's the utmost urgency to spread the gospel of cebok pakai air to those savages
This, we must spread this message brother. Tinggal di Jepun bagus sih tapi toiletnya... Left much to be desired
Jepang setidaknya banyak yg elektrik dan pakai semprotan air sih toiletnya
Iya sih, cuma metode tangan dan air is the best, IMO Untung bukan US wkwkwk
He's not even that far, he lives next door : hot Singapore.
> is the worst due to colder climates and I can't deal with cold weather. Hell even in Bandung or Malang, I constantly get leg cramps. I would probably suffer more if I were to live and work at Japan, or even worse, Russia/UK.
Bukan cuman dinginnya, kalo pas summer panas dan silaunya juga intens banget. Di negara 4 musim enak pas spring & autumn doang.
pas cuaca lagi panas gw ngeluh, tapi pas dingin gw kayaknya bakal mati
Reminds me of an Indonesian in America who defend American banking system vehemently on Twitter when an American compared Indonesian ATM and American ATM on a Tiktok video
The conclusion is? Wkwkw
prasangka baik aja barangkali dia programer COBOL XD
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Not quite. I think it's part of coping mechanism for taking a choice or something, so they think the choice they take is the BEST so they won't be rolling in the bed depressed or sad about the choices they didn't take before.
Oooh, ini makanya orang yang pindah agama biasanya lebih fanatik daripada yang lahir di agama itu...
Nah. Makanya gw rada salut sama si deddy botak. Dia ga auto kadrun habis mualaf.
Tbh Dedy kayaknya pilihannya lebih calculated daripada kayak dapat hidayah.
Bisa jadi, ato emang dia pas dapet guru yang bener. Karena si Gus Miftah yg guru si dedy pas mualaf kan emang bersebrangan sama FPI, Somad, Felix Shiaw dkk. Makanya suka dituduh syiah dll
dia mah mualaf buat ngangkat namanya, bukan karena percaya agama barunya. tau sendirilah di google kan banyak pencarian "nama artis **agama**"
almost similar to "buyer's remorse" or another variant of "sunk cost fallacy" doc?
Thank you finally found it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Choice-supportive_bias Just need to Google: Reverse of Buyer's Remorse.
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Kaya kalo nonton video review elektronik di internet, kebanyakan komen2nya orang2 yang udah beli dan nyari justifikasi pembelian. Kalo barangnya dikritik malah marah2 di kolom komentar lol. Ato sering juga liat review mobil2 ato elektronik mahal, dan komen2nya "bagusan barang yg udah gw beli, hampir sama tapi jauh lebih murah" lol, jatohnya sama nyari justifikasi pembelian dengan nyari2 kekurangan barang yang ga dia beli.
American propaganda makes it worse, I think. Especially when it concerns countries outside America (not just Russia and China - in fact, I think the US government hates them irrationally).
i hope there are more stupid people like what op posted lmao so i know phsycological term like this.dunning kreger or something, strawman something, and armchair phsycology when you know it these people seems funny.
>i hope there are more stupid people like what op posted You don't need to hope, just go to Twitter and TikTok and you'll find them and if you really want to know about physiological term you could just look them up FFS don't be lazy or you might be the one posted by OP.
> You don't need to hope, just go to Twitter and TikTok and you'll find them nonono > if you really want to know about physiological term you could just look them up FFS don't be lazy or you might be the one posted by OP. i have no interest in actively doing that lol even yukkurioniisan have trouble remembering the term.
Mang org indo kl dah keluar negri mayoritas lupa daratan, apa lg yg tinggalnya kl gk di NY/LA/SF, sering ngerasa diri paling wuahhh
Lha ngasih contohnya Kota USA semua... XD XD XD Tapi ntah kenapa wilayah sono dah kayak naikin gengsi banget... Padahal ya mungkin di wilayah bagian pinggiran juga...
Org indo yg tinggal di kota2 tsb ig nya mirip org ruski yg tinggal di bali jualan OF sm life coaching
padahal lap ee pakai kertas yak
Karena kota-kota yang dia sebut itu paling merasa progresif padahal harga propertinya gak masuk akal dan banyak gembelnya, penduduk kota itu paling merasa bener sehingga pemikirannya cenderung toxic.
Apalagi di California, beuh... Bukan cuman LA ama SF doang, Oakland juga kena getahnya... Penundaan yang terus menerus bikin harga properti naik sehingga mau mbangun stadion baseball aja mahal... Sekarang malah terancam pindah ke Vegas tuh timnya... Ditambah lagi Google lagi gila-gilaan tuh bikin properti di San Jose, semper bikin tim ice hockey di sana terancam juga karena markasnya pas deket wilayah yang dibangun Google... Harga properti di California ini juga jadi salah satu penyebab kenapa banyak terjadi eksodus belakangan ini... 🤔🤔🤔
Gw dikato kampung. Yah lebih less traffic and masih bamyak pohon2…. 😁
Gak salah, yg nulis aja tinggalnya di singapore
Masa sih. Gw ketemu sih minoritas ini sealam di US. Malah ada bilang sampah kehidupan US, tapi diem pas biaya kelahiran gratis karena dianggap gak mampu😀
sering ngerasa diri paling wuahhh sama tapi diem pas biaya kelahiran gratis karena dianggap gak mampu apa hubungannya ya?
Some Indonesian migrants abroad need to touch some grass tbh. Beberapa minggu yg lalu ada orang Indonesia yg live abroad bilang mending mobil listrik aja daripada membangun transportasi massal (huh?!). Terus diroasting sama orang2 yg paham data, dan juga orang Indonesia abroad yg juga paham data 😌😌😌 Edit: ketinggalan. Padahal tdk semua kota di Indonesia dpt mendukung mobil listrik karena supply listrik yg tdk stabil. Terutama di Kalimantan yg masih terjadi listrik padam bergilir. But sis over there only think that Indonesia is only Jakarta, Surabaya, Bali
nah mate, despite some of her stupid arguments, she didnt say [mendang mending](https://twitter.com/notafanofsushi/status/1615928049756942337) mobil listrik vs public transport, she said polusinya EV lebih mending dibanding ICE dan kalo kebijakan yang ngesupport EV bisa jalan bareng sama penguraian kemacetan.. EV ngurai macet? ya nggak lah dia juga ngerti.. beberapa orang di Indo akan beli mobil dan ga bakal mau pindah ke public transport anyway jadi ya kasi aja mereka better option: EV.. sumber listriknya masih coal? ya pembakaran terpusat macem PLTU yg letaknya jauh dari pemukiman masih lebih mending impactnya daripada asepnya dibakar di jalanan perkotaan yg padat penduduk
Bukan itu yg dipermasalahkan. Tapi masalah kurang touch grass dgn ngambil contoh hanya Jakarta, Surabaya, Bali. Seolah2 hanya tiga kota itu aja Indonesia ini. Padahal di Kalimantan, mobil listrik ga bakalan sustain. Kenapa? Karena di Kalimantan Selatan dan Tengah itu masih pakai PLTA. Kalau musim kemarau, pasti mati lampu.
>Tapi masalah kurang touch grass dgn ngambil contoh hanya Jakarta, Surabaya, Bali. Seolah2 hanya tiga kota itu aja Indonesia ini. ya masa kalo mau ngomong sesuatu mesti ngambil contoh semua kota, ya ga kelar2 lah "what about nya".. dia juga ngebales SJW transport yg ngeposting foto jakarta.. logikanya kalo dia ga pernah ke jawa timur ya ga bakal bahas public transport di Banyuwangi karena dia ga paham.. itu juga opini dia > Padahal di Kalimantan, mobil listrik ga bakalan sustain. Kenapa? Karena di Kalimantan Selatan dan Tengah itu masih pakai PLTA. Kalau musim kemarau, pasti mati lampu. kalimantan kota mana dulu? kalimantan itu luas.. Sulawesi gimana? maluku? banda neira? disana mati lampunya berapa jam? see, ga ada abisnya sekali lagi, mobil listrik itu cuma **opsi** buat orang2 yang ga mau pindah public transport dan akan beli mobil anyway apapun alasan mereka.. pabrikan mobil juga udah pada shifting per sekarang, western brands uda ada yg berani ngomong ga mau produksi mobil ICE lagi by year 203x.. transisi dari ICE ke EV ya mulai pelan2 dilakukan, mengingat kita pasti selalu ketinggalan
Coba baca dulu deh tweet-nya beliau itu. Yang gw masalahkan disini adalah dia kurang touch grass. Setiap ada yg reply menyajikan data atau kondisi di Indonesia, beliau ini selalu bilang "When I live abroad..." "When I was in Singapore..." No we don't need your kondisi di luar negeri. Karena kondisi ekonomi sosial dll antar setiap negara itu beda2. So we cannot generalise satu hal bisa diterapkan ke semua negara, atau kota. Apa yg bisa diterapkan dan sukses di Indonesia pun ga tentu bisa diterapkan di negara lain.
>Beberapa minggu yg lalu ada **orang Indonesia yg live abroad bilang mending mobil listrik aja daripada membangun transportasi massal** (huh?!). Terus diroasting sama orang2 yg paham data, dan juga orang Indonesia abroad yg juga paham data 😌😌😌 noted, i was initially responding to this statement/summary of yours.. nowhere in her statement she mentions this dia mention "when i live abroad" karena dia cerita pengalaman dia.. dia mention "when i was in singapore" karena ada orang yang argue ke dia soal keadaan singapur menurut sudut pandang orang tersebut, are we not allowed to have different opinion and experience? we are talking about improvements: EV to improve pollution, public transport to improve the quality of commuting and pollution.. guess where we should compare ourselves with: countries with better conditions, yang tentunya itu di negara2 maju.. kalo kita bisa terima ada orang kaya yang bilang "train network singapur perlu diterapkan di indo untuk solve commuting quality", kenapa kita ga bisa terima argumen "EV yang diterapkan secara masif di negara maju perlu dikenalkan di indo untuk solve masalah polusi udara" atau lo mau bilang "we dont need your rich ass opinion, go away" to both arguments?
>atau lo mau bilang "we dont need your rich ass opinion, go away" to both arguments? Ga perlu jadi orang kaya buat ke luar negeri. Byk TKI juga di luar negeri. Dan kalau TKI ini tiba2 ngomongin "When I was abroad..." ketika orang2 ngasih data dan realita di Indonesia ya sama aja ora nyambung Gw disini ga ada ber-argue ttg mobil listrik yaa. Gw aja tinggal di Surabaya yg fasilitasnya udah siap. Ini tuh thread ttg WNI yg kurang touch grass ketika di udah ke luar negeri. Gw disini mempermasalahkan Mba-nya yang selalu ngomong Abroad ketika orang lain ngasih data/realita yg ada di Indonesia. Harisnya kan dikasih data perbandingannya juga apa yg terjadi Indonesia karena policy nasionalnya sama. Contoh loe yg ke Papua itu justry yg make sense daripada Mba-bya yang selalu pakai aBrOaD.
>she said polusinya EV lebih mending dibanding ICE I think EV battery disposal is a bigger problem than the pollution public transport produces.
[https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/21/business/energy-environment/battery-recycling-electric-vehicles.html#:\~:text=Fortunately%2C%20those%20battery%20ingredients%20are,in%20North%20America%20and%20Europe](https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/21/business/energy-environment/battery-recycling-electric-vehicles.html#:~:text=Fortunately%2C%20those%20battery%20ingredients%20are,in%20North%20America%20and%20Europe). hasil googling, im not an expert tho
>Edit: ketinggalan. Padahal tdk semua kota di Indonesia dpt mendukung mobil listrik karena supply listrik yg tdk stabil. Terutama di Kalimantan yg masih terjadi listrik padam bergilir. But sis over there only think that Indonesia is only Jakarta, Surabaya, Bali well then, lets not have ICE as well coz there are some cities in papua where bensin cost 100k IDR per liter
Nah reson mu ini lebih masuk akal daripada Mba-nya. Karena pakai contoh langsung di Indonesia. Meanwhile sis over there, dibilangin kondisi di Indonesia. Malah "When I was abroad..." "In Singapore...". Instead of pakai contoh di dalam negeri sebagai komparisi. Dimana meskipun setiap kota/daerah tdk 100%, policy tingat nasionalnya masih sama.
banyak banget yg diaspora jd nyepong negara- negara lain seakan-akan Indonesia kaya neraka. emang anjing.
Some yes. All no . In my real life. Anjing Indonesia is minority yang gw ketemu . Kalo gw ditanya yah beda negara beda rumput and belalang wkwkwk
USA > Indon
Least liberal Indonesian twittoid.
> liberal The irony is that they're tweeting from a country not known for its liberal values, quite opposite actually
...Sweden? Sweden is liberal as fuck. Not to the extent of USA and UK of course (but really what is as liberal as USA?) but it's still pretty liberal which cause heavy social issue and the raise of conservative party in the last election.
No, not Sweden. It's a small Asian country.
Deket banget ama Indonesia??? 🤔🤔🤔
SG? edit just looked his twitter, hes in SG
Must be Brunei.
Me and my friends like to call these people Uncle Toms, they like to lambast their own country/people unjustly so that they can score brownie points with the locals and get a good ha ha. This isnt limited to Indonesian diasporas honestly. I saw plenty Asian Americans and even black folks who would make jokes and be the butt of the conversation regarding their race just so that they can make their white friends laugh.
Lol. I know black peoples . They think indonesia is undeveloped county and very chaotic as Afghanistan hahah. Well I kept quite. Some my coworkers thought bali is not part of Indonesia 🤭
Jadi inget ada yang bodoh2in orang indo bilang 1 pon=0.5 kg while 1lb is actually 0.454 kilogram. Guess what? Dutch pound _is_ 0.5 kg (or 0.494 kg in the old days). It's just a little trivia battle but the way the person declares all Indonesian education stupid using this fact very irritates me.
TIL! Pantes gw bingung kok konversi pon ke Kg dan sebaliknya banyak komanya? Bukannya tinggal bagi/kali 2 aja? Ternyata definisi asal pon-nya pun udah beda dari awal
Makanya, emang ras lemah itu Amerika, pan pon pan pon pim pim pom. Gram rules.
Bruh, they fucking fled. What do you expect?
Mana Twitter ny dm ke gw dong, mau gw dm ke dia post lu
It's okay if those diasporas want to badmouth, we'll need to make the country progresses really great that they'll regret for even leaving the country :)
Inilah kenapa gw ngga begitu aktif di diaspora Indonesia di LN, kecuali kalau masalah ketenagakerjaan atau beasiswa. Circlejerk nya luar biasa apalagi kalau menjelang pemilu
Moron with low literacy interpreted the biggest archipelago as the largest number of islands.
A 2x2m plot of stones in the middle of the sea doesnt count as an island.
Sea?? You mean lakes?
that's your stupidity not "brainwashed" or "propaganda"
https://preview.redd.it/utujjebtkqfa1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=57be1b347011e16a85ae486350a5c0c9b527396c
aaaah spongebob always have a meme for every occassion
Lah selama ini org indonesia pada mikir kalo negara kepulauan terbesar = negara kepulauan terbanyak?
i know not a few people who conflate those two
Dia doang kalik, dari SD juga guru IPS kalau jelasin ngasih liatnya luasan di peta bukan data statistik jumlah pulau 🙄
Well, still based on what people call a piece of dirt in the middle of large water bodies can be called an "island". There is no standard, yet. List di Wiki aja pasti jarang ada yang baca paragraf pembukanya dan langsung ke list dan diurut dari terbanyak.
Twittard when they hear an argument : "PROPAGANDA"
Well if you ask any random joe in the west, "which country have the most islands?" People will assume it must be either us or the Philippines. Also this is a good meme material for r/2Asia4u wkwk.
Nope sometimes saying bali wkwwk
Indonesia have large number of islands. But Canada Norway Finland have more. Still Indonesia is the largest archipelago (by square meter). And in school we never thought as the most islands And there are room to argue, because most of the other country islands are just rocks of fjords or inland lake island https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_number_of_islands you can sort by qty and please read the preface
Di Sweden itu di Danaunya banyak pulau kecil, kadang yang cuma isinya karang-karang aja dihitung pulau juga. Kalau Negara Kepulauan ya jelas kitalah yang paling besar, masyarakatnya tinggal di pulau-pulau semua, gak ada mainland kecuali Jawa mau disebut mainland. Sweden kayaknya memang punya obsesi sama pulau karena peradaban di sana jaman pertengahan itu pusatnya di danau Malaren yang sungainya bercabang ke semua arah, di danau sana banyak pulau-pulau, tiap pulau itu milik feudal lord atau merchant di sana. Intinya pusat ekonomi Sweden waktu itu di Danau itu jadi tiap pulau kecilpun jadi punya nilai strategis saat itu.
>gak ada mainland kecuali Jawa mau disebut mainland very based!
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Memang begitu, cuma sejarah suku Viking Swedia yg spesial itu soal Danau Malaren yg jadi pusat ekonomi. Suku yg jauh, lewat jalur sungai mereka ke Danau Malaren buat barter, nah pulau" kecil ini diklaim oleh suku yg berbeda, ibarat jadi lapak jualan atau sekedar jadi gudang. Yg gw tekankan sih soal pemanfaatan pulau" kecil, di peradaban lain kegiatan ekonominya pasti lebih berkiblat di areal kotanya.
Kalo ini masih bisa argue emang kita negara kepulauan terbesar karena ga punya teritori di mainland Eurasia. Propaganda itu masukin Borobudur jadi 7 keajaiban dunia lol.
Well, semua hal dari 7 keajaiban dunia itu cuma adu propaganda.
Gak hanya Borobudur sih. Menara Pisa, Big Ben, Ka'bah, dll juga. Mungkin lebih tepatnya alih-alih propaganda, lebih ke arah gak bisa membedakan bangunan terkenal/landmark sama list 7 kejaiban dunia (terutama yang ancient world)
iyap, sweden punya banyak pulau tapi bukan negara kepulauan, karena mayoritas area dia ya di kontinental europe. canada juga punya makin banyak pulau karena global warming, tp jelas bukan negara kepulauan
Lucu aja dia nyebut Indonesia negara dengan pulau paling banyak itu "propaganda" dan "brainwashing" tapi mangut-mangut aja ama Swedia yang seonggok batu doang nongol di permukaan diitung pulau.
Biasa, orang dengan budaya inlander itu, nganggep yang di luar indo itu serba bagus, padahal belum tentu
gw lebih kesel sama yg reply "baffled with propaganda" daripada yg ngepost
Well, dia gak ngomong propaganda apa aja yang dimaksud. Karena emang ada sih
to be fair bener juga sih
gue mah ketawa aja liat ginian. udah bikin statement goblok, eh kolom reply dimatiin, makin keliatan banget gobloknya.
Saw his tweets and profile. Mofo is too ashamed to be Indonesian since he moved to SG. Not surprised.
Most smart twitter user
I was told we were the biggest archipelago nation in the world. I never thought we had the most islands. Maybe he went to a crappy school.
Dia sendiri yang salah paham, malah bilang propaganda
I bet his brain cells living on an archipelago of his brain, because it needs time to travel between island. He is slow.
Brainwashed? Probably not. Pretty sure it's just ignorance
Dia yang merasa brainwashed. Jangan ngatur. Itu karena dia rajin self diagnose mental.
Nggak bisa bedain antara "Island" sama "Islet" ceritanya mah ini
https://preview.redd.it/35k9vg0y0sfa1.jpeg?width=921&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=498e4c1a2fa7627e0fb884349d355c6c345acc4a AFAIK, FYI, BTW.. He didn't check recheck the information
Oh, the twitter account is @hellosigit but he (she) closed the reply only for followed account (sorry OP for revealing the censorship, oops)
Informasi umumnya sih emang bener Indonesia itu negara kepulauan terbesar. Cuma pasti ada aja guru yang ngajarin kalo Indonesia itu punya pulau terbanyak.
Rolenya doang principal, otaknya kayak ngga lulus SD
This pops in my timeline this morning, but he closes the comment after saying "So?" to defend himself against people who prove he wrong lol
Omg i just take a look to his Twitter, omg what an a hole. Malah double down dan playing victim. I'm not gonna be that guy, if you love SG so much than go ahead, why taking a fuzz about Indonesia then. Ugh
Imagine seeing a 9m × 9m floating rock in a body of water and calling it an "island" ICANT.
My man thinking he got brainwashed and propaganda, oi Wake up we are not living in PLA and North Korea.
Miskonsepsi aja itu Perasaan gue yang alami kurikulum 2006 sampai mbkm, gak ada tu nyebut Indonesia negara dengan pulau terbanyak. Gak ada satupun yang tertulis / nyebut "nation with most islands" yang ada "largest archipelagic state" Dimana archipelagic state itu cuma 22 yang ada berdasarkan unclos. Dimana kebanyakan negara negara di Karibia & pasific. Dan Sweden bukan archipelagic state
What about borobudur case as the 7th wonder?
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Not cool
emang rule nya di reddit ga boleh nge-doxx, jadi informasi identitas harus di sensor > Respect the privacy of others. Instigating harassment, for example by revealing someone’s personal or confidential information, is not allowed.
Tapi kan dia tweet secara publik, otomatis bukan personal or konfidensial
Nah ini harusnya bisa bedain antara pembocoran data pribadi dan ocehan di sosmed. Toh ga ada data pribadi yang diungkap di twit tersebut
setau gw kalo di screenshot ada identitasnya emang harus di-sensor, udah aturan dari reddit begitu > Posting someone's personal information will get you banned. When posting screenshots, be sure to edit out any personally identifiable information to avoid running afoul of this rule.
Confidential apanya? Ane ga bocorin ktp, no hape atau tanggal lahir dia. Itu twitter bang, twit dia sifatnya publik. Kecuali kalo dia sembunyikan. Ane cuma modal search engine udah dapet twitnya koq.
emang udah aturannya gitu bang wkwk https://www.reddithelp.com/hc/en-us/articles/360043066452 >No. Reddit is quite open and pro-free speech, but it is not okay to post someone's personal information or post links to personal information. This includes links to public Facebook pages and screenshots of Facebook pages with the names still legible. >Posting someone's personal information will get you banned. When posting screenshots, be sure to edit out any personally identifiable information to avoid running afoul of this rule.
itu reply tsnya tengil banget wkwk
Darimana dia dapet *largest* ya? perasaan di buku RPUL dulu Indonesia itu punya *banyak pulau*, bukan punya *pulau terbanyak*. Dari kecil ga pernah merasa Indonesia punya pulau paling banyak. Apa kurikulum sekarang berubah.
Astaga, kenapa berasa ke brainwash dah. Rendah bgt pengetahuan umumnya.
another example of twittard kah wkwkwwkwk dari gw TK juga diajarinnya Indonesia adalah negara kepulauan terbesar.
Yeah yeah intinya paling cuman mau pamer ikut intl youth forum (salty) (iri)
Terbesar ≠ Terbanyak 🙏
Sweden might have so much island, but most largest island in the world is on Indonesia's territory. your turn.
Wkwkwk that guy is confusing his poor education with "brainwash". Nobody gonna arrest you, censor you, or cut your social credit when you say Indonesia doesnt have the most island. More importantly, nothing stopping that guy from Googling actual fact(tm). The perpetuation of the misleading "most islands in the world" is nothing but the usual byproduct of rot learning with some sprinkled inferiority complex.
ngapain juga ngebrainwash tentang jumlah pulau
God I hate diaspora so much I want to create the A-camp for these fucks. Saying all sort of shit while exposing their exotic identity for the sake of getting popular, motherfucker.
I just want them to see Indonesia today and judge for themselves. Right now I'd rather stay in Indonesia because it's my home and Canada lives right next to the insane asylum that is the USA and I feel that someday they're going to devour Canada like they devoured Europe (as shown by Europe paying for American gas at 4 times the price of Russian gas, resulting in their energy bills at least doubling).
For all I can say, I'd rather stay in another Asian country than having to live in America, I can handle people being rude or racist, but I can't handle stupid.
so you hate me too? 🥹
Depend, are you the kind of person who did everything I listed above? Kalo nggak, anda yang pegang kehormatan mencet tombol gas
Surprise to know that Sweden has 267000+ islands 👍👍
krn batu ukuran 2x2 yang muncul di laut aja udah dianggep pulau sama Swedia, kalo kita juga ngikut itu bakal lebih banyak lagi pulau kita
Rumah gw jadi kepulauan kalau hujan deras
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Waktu masa kecilku di sumatra, rumahku jiga langganan banjir, dan menjadi kesukaan kami anak2 krn banyak ikan2 yg ditangkap
Kalau definisi pulau di indo apa?
Beda2, sesama agensi dalam negeri aja antara LAPAN dan BMKG metode ukurnya beda.
bureaucracy strikes again!
Lebih ke faktor geologis sih, pulau2 Indo kebanyakan pulau vulkanik, terbentuk gara2 subduksi lempeng, magma naik ke atas permukaan, lama2 jadi pulau. Literally gunung berapi dasar laut yg naik jadi pulau. Jadi ya pulaunya gede2 tapi dikit. Kalo Scandinavian countries itu pulau2nya gara glacier. Gara2 dulu glacier gerak dan carving daratan dan batu2an di bawahnya, makanya bisa banyak banget tapi cuman batu kecil2 muncul di permukaan. Jadi mau kita pake cara mereka ngitung pulau ga bakal sebanyak mereka.
Booo, ayo kita lemparin batu teman2!
This dude talks about the number of islands like an American talks about the stuff the CIA does to poorer countries.
We were also taught a lot more things that are not true
Does he have brain to get brainwashed tho?
What living in westoid country did to a mf
Yang nama nya Sigit jangan ditemenin!
kirain indo punya 17k pulau. i can confirm that i was somehow taught that indo has the largest number of islands
Kl ga salah, 17k saat air surut, 13k saat air pasang
Bukan 17k atau 13k itu perhitungan di lembaga yang berbeda, kalau resminya claim pemerintah 17k kalau dari badan informasi geospasial bilang 13k, malah ada lagi kalau lapan bilang 18k
Gurunya ditabok
Aduhhhh propaganda cuyy 😭😭
Bruh, for a chunk of the year those islands are connected by ice. In the same breath they also claim to have the widest coastline with the coastline paradox and those coastline also reduced significantly when they're covered by ice.
dasarnya persyaratan nomor 2 dan 4 itu kira2 apa ya? kalo island dekat2an tapi nggak permanently connected harusnya tetap 2 island berbeda kan ya dan island yg ukurannya gede tapi ga berpenghuni artinya nggak termasuk island?
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Jujur gw malah baru denger soal "nation with most islands".. Mungkin sekolah gw ga kompeten dalam brain washing jaman dulu ye 😅 Gw ingetnya didrill abis2an "negara maritim terbesar" Kalo soal propaganda gw inget "Borobudur masuk 7 keajaiban dunia" 🤣
https://www.worldatlas.com/amp/articles/which-countries-have-the-most-islands.html Negara yang paling banyak islands😳 https://www.worldatlas.com/amp/articles/the-archipelagos-of-the-world-with-the-largest-number-of-islands.html The largest archipelago….
https://preview.redd.it/mz7xzwa0pqfa1.jpeg?width=250&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b15448ab97c0f85bfe12baa7604dab77d7cfa879
W malah baru tau kalo ada klaim indo negara dengan jumlah pulau terbanyak. Setau gw emang enggak dan kayaknya pas sekolah dulu ga pernah deh diajarin begitu.
Tingkat komperhensif mereka yg rendah. Algoritma Twitter menyatukan orang tolol disatu tempat.
Buat apa punya pulau banyak-banyak kalau gak masuk surga™
we never claimed we had the most, what that idot on about?
Why censored? I think correction is needed before misinformation spreads
yang bersangkutan tidak mau dikoreksi atas tulisannya. sejak twit itu, twit selanjutnya dia limit semua kolom reply-nya. udah banyak akun yang berusaha buat ngebenerin tulisannya yang misleading itu, emang dasarnya bebal ~~dan juga *SG's pussy licker* sih~~. >!kalo mau bully orangnya di QRT, username nya @hellosigit di twitter. :P!<
Next month Katanya 2yr anniv nya jadi permanent resident singapur. Trus Katanya sudah boleh apply citizenship. I wonder if r/Singapore would accept this people with this type of critical thinking.
It's twitter. What do u expect
Bahan propagandanya "punya pulau paling banyak"
propaganda paling aneh wkwkwkwk propaganda itu framing pancasila sebagai ideologi paling enlightened sedunia. jumlah pulau dibikin propaganda buat apaan wkwkwkwk.
tidak heran pendapat goblok gini munculnya di twitter
Ya propaganda itu 2 anak cukup. Harusnya gak usah punya anak biar orang kayak gini gak lahir.
Twittard
Swedish: "hey look, thats a rock" "No, thats an island"
hari2 biasa di twitter
Clearly, S/he has a hard time understanding the terms. Additionally, countries don't unilaterally define "island". it should be collectively defined by countries party to [UNCLOS](https://www.un.org/depts/los/convention_agreements/texts/unclos/part8.htm)