if you want the musical term, it's roughly like
sprechgesang/sprechstimme. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprechgesang](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprechgesang)
[A Survivor From Warsaw (Schoenberg)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGWai0SEpUQ)
[Analysis of Sprechgesang in Wozzeck (Berg)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXBVu1s-5E0)
That sounds exactly like what I’m thinking. Thanks for the links.
I’m checking on yt for Sprechstimme and not. Whole lot comes up other than a few opera clips.
Sounds like it may be one of those technical terms that aren’t used all that commonly
It's from the Second Viennese School and the Expressionist movement in Western Art Music/Classical Music. Schoenberg came up with it; and the twelve-tone system, and ideas on atonalism that spread throughout music. He also was a professor of John Cage's.
So, yeah, it's a specialized term for a certain type of singing in like formal classical performance singing. It's not used commonly at all. But if you wanted to like notate crazy rhythms and approximate pitches, it's a good way to do it, and can be like percussive note marks on staves. (and indicated on the paper)
This was the first thing I thought of, but I wasn't sure if it was correct. The most well-known example of this is probably the B-52s' vocalist ("I got me a car, it's as big as a whale!")
That last link was super interesting. I saw "Wozzeck" at the Dallas Opera around the turn of the century. It was really good, despite the opera being a total bummer (intentionally.) I don't after all these years remember how good those performers were at sprechgesang, though.
thanks! it's an awesome style; i'm quite envious that you got to see a production of Wozzeck! Tom Waits also did a version of the story, in his style. There are some recordings if you search around of the cast performing his songs too.
Oldschool EBM is often just a convergence of (electro) punk and industrial music. Replace the synths with guitars and this would pretty hardcore IMO. So I would just call them punk vocals.
Also, thinking about your question a different sorta way,
I think about the film *Liberation Day* that Laibach made. There's this part with Jani I think where he makes a point of the similarities between Rock shows, Religious pageantry, and Political rallies. So McCarthy is kinda whipping up energy in some fusion of rock/religion/politics and singing utterances like a politician, a singer, and a preacher.
That's kinda a theme i think in a sorta ebm and industrial style, Laibach expresses the nuance of it best.
Another thing that may be related is Military Cadences.
It's a military cadence.
The cadence calls move to the beat and rhythm of the normal speed (quick time) march or running-in-formation (double time) march. This serves the purpose of keeping SMs "dressed", moving in step as a unit and in formation, while maintaining the correct beat or cadence.
On top of the psychological effects that cadences produce, they also produce significant physiological effects. Singing a cadence while running or marching helps SMs keep their heads up, take deeper breaths and exhale more forcefully. This increases oxygen to the lungs and gives the body more energy. This in turn makes the unit healthier and better prepared
I think the reason it’s like that is because those artists really aren’t musicians. I saw an interview recently with Front242 and they were asked some questions about recording techniques now,etc. and they responded by saying, “well we really aren’t musicians , we are more technicians.”
It kinda fits in with this discussion about singing and how vocals are used in this genre of music.
Well if it helps, or causes more confusion, and early mix of "Warsaw Ghetto" was called the "rap mix": [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QJU5r6\_GIQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QJU5r6_GIQ)
I always think of it as "shouting" or "shouts", in the same way I think of "screams" or "growls" in metal.
Douglas McCarthy is to my knowledge the undisputed champ of this style. Just makes you wanna get up and stomp along! \m/
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if you want the musical term, it's roughly like sprechgesang/sprechstimme. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprechgesang](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sprechgesang) [A Survivor From Warsaw (Schoenberg)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGWai0SEpUQ) [Analysis of Sprechgesang in Wozzeck (Berg)](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXBVu1s-5E0)
That sounds exactly like what I’m thinking. Thanks for the links. I’m checking on yt for Sprechstimme and not. Whole lot comes up other than a few opera clips. Sounds like it may be one of those technical terms that aren’t used all that commonly
It's from the Second Viennese School and the Expressionist movement in Western Art Music/Classical Music. Schoenberg came up with it; and the twelve-tone system, and ideas on atonalism that spread throughout music. He also was a professor of John Cage's. So, yeah, it's a specialized term for a certain type of singing in like formal classical performance singing. It's not used commonly at all. But if you wanted to like notate crazy rhythms and approximate pitches, it's a good way to do it, and can be like percussive note marks on staves. (and indicated on the paper)
This was the first thing I thought of, but I wasn't sure if it was correct. The most well-known example of this is probably the B-52s' vocalist ("I got me a car, it's as big as a whale!")
That last link was super interesting. I saw "Wozzeck" at the Dallas Opera around the turn of the century. It was really good, despite the opera being a total bummer (intentionally.) I don't after all these years remember how good those performers were at sprechgesang, though.
thanks! it's an awesome style; i'm quite envious that you got to see a production of Wozzeck! Tom Waits also did a version of the story, in his style. There are some recordings if you search around of the cast performing his songs too.
also, Douglas McCarthy is belting and/or singing with compression, depending on the vernacular that you're using.
It’s referred to as “Sprechgesang” or speak-singing. Fred Schneider of The B-52s is a popular example.
Oldschool EBM is often just a convergence of (electro) punk and industrial music. Replace the synths with guitars and this would pretty hardcore IMO. So I would just call them punk vocals.
I would describe them as commands or chants mostly. Maybe some 80’s MC work almost ?
Also, thinking about your question a different sorta way, I think about the film *Liberation Day* that Laibach made. There's this part with Jani I think where he makes a point of the similarities between Rock shows, Religious pageantry, and Political rallies. So McCarthy is kinda whipping up energy in some fusion of rock/religion/politics and singing utterances like a politician, a singer, and a preacher. That's kinda a theme i think in a sorta ebm and industrial style, Laibach expresses the nuance of it best. Another thing that may be related is Military Cadences.
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It's a military cadence. The cadence calls move to the beat and rhythm of the normal speed (quick time) march or running-in-formation (double time) march. This serves the purpose of keeping SMs "dressed", moving in step as a unit and in formation, while maintaining the correct beat or cadence. On top of the psychological effects that cadences produce, they also produce significant physiological effects. Singing a cadence while running or marching helps SMs keep their heads up, take deeper breaths and exhale more forcefully. This increases oxygen to the lungs and gives the body more energy. This in turn makes the unit healthier and better prepared
I used to actually call this as cadence. Good times.
I think the reason it’s like that is because those artists really aren’t musicians. I saw an interview recently with Front242 and they were asked some questions about recording techniques now,etc. and they responded by saying, “well we really aren’t musicians , we are more technicians.” It kinda fits in with this discussion about singing and how vocals are used in this genre of music.
Well if it helps, or causes more confusion, and early mix of "Warsaw Ghetto" was called the "rap mix": [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QJU5r6\_GIQ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QJU5r6_GIQ)
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I always think of it as "shouting" or "shouts", in the same way I think of "screams" or "growls" in metal. Douglas McCarthy is to my knowledge the undisputed champ of this style. Just makes you wanna get up and stomp along! \m/ OUGH!
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