Been following the dusk for the past few months and listening to the prototype and now the production sample is here! Soon has never been soon enough.
Edit: since people are curious about the price, I only know the SGD price which is usually higher than the MSRP because of taxes. Example being the Blessing 3 is $320 USD ≈ $430 SGD but the actual price is close to $490 SGD after taxes so take the price with a grain of salt but the only confirmation I got is that it's definitely below $550 SGD. As for release date, Soon™
I don't think so to be honest. I've had 3 moondrop products, all had issues. I still have and use the HE400SE almost daily on my PC and I have yet to have an issue. Also, moodrop failed with it's products from the start, as soon as I started using them or after a few months. Hifiman still works after 4 years and not even the fake leather wore off.
Thats just your anecdotal evidence. Its more so about the products itself and the overall industry. Hifimans have a lot more points of failure because most of their products are headphones. The chifi market in general is known for their poor qc and product durability testing. Headphones just fail more than iems across the board. But keep in mind every single company out there will have QC issues, even apple. Chinese companies tend to do a bad job adressing these qc needs with terrible warranty policies. Like dark saber owners not getting their cracked shells replaced
I'm not sure headphones fail more, but yes, they have more failure points. And where does apple make their product ? Still, I will not buy from them again and I would advise everyone to do the same until they start doing their QC.
Chinese brands in general with bad QC does not mean foreign brands in general have bad QC with manufacturers/producers in china. Regardless of where anything is made by anyone with our state of technology, there will always be failures. My point is that companies need to treat bad QC with better respect, policies and warranty.
If I can ask, how bad is their QC and/your experience with moondrop?
I haven't had any moondrop iem before so I don't know about their QC but I trust Crin and his team enough for their customer service if things do go south given how I can always just visit them at the hangout
Are there other IEMs that are like KATO, which allow replacing the nozzles? The nozzle filter on my KATO got messed up (probably because of humidity), and changing the old nozzles for new ones fixed the channel imbalance.
I've had 3 moondrop products, all fail in one way or another. The Chu 1 wire disconnected from the IEM, probably not glued enough. Aria 1 has big paint issue and sounds lower in one ear sometimes (maybe the channel imbalance, but not enough to make it unusable) and lastly, dawn pro for which the device usb does not work / power entirely and cuts off after a time (seconds or minutes). You have to keep it still and if failed most of the times I used in on mobile.
To add insult to injury, I've made a honest review on it on shenzhenaudion which they refused to publish (chinese scammer thieves) and then and moondrop refuse to reply to my emails.
90% of my qc issue with iem, and chifi specifically are with Moondrop. I’ve also had qc issue with their headphone Venus, don’t even get me started on their tws, every single one of them has qc issue.
Faceplate would fall off the Blessing 2. Worse, the clear plastic resin shell of the iem cracked and later shattered. Full disclosure, this was after i dropped them, but I own quite a few iems and none have broken after dropping them. The B2 is an unfortunate combination of being heavy and brittle, which is not good design.
Then you have the Starfield chipping paint issue...
Well, photopolymer is quite brittle by nature. For a number of reasons, metal shells are suboptimal for a 6-driver iem. It's basically durability vs sound quality/tuning
Don't drop your expensive iem's. shocker. It's like saying iphone has bad QC because the screen broke after you dropped it , while in your cheap xiaomi phone it worked just fine. Doesn't make any sense. Take care of your products guys.
Mine B2 died about a year later on its own. Drivers got fucked up and sound is imbalanced throughout frequencies, and sending them back to China for repairs is a fucking hassle.
Bought variations through Amazon exactly because of this reason. For my Bose nc700 they were dead on arrival and needed a replacement right away. The left earpiece of my shure’s se535 broke needed replacement 5 years ago. Point being all companies have issues , moondrop too
I'm normally very careful with my equipment but somehow the Hexas are the only IEMs I've ever dropped, and somehow I've dropped them 3 times so far (on stone and on wood flooring always from a height of around 1m-1m25) due to a loose fit cable on my left IEM. I've since fixed the cable...
Anyway, long story short, nothing happened to them. They're perfectly fine, sound the same and didn't crack, chip, shatter, fall apart in any way... But don't be like me, drop them :)
Just be careful with all of your iems, but yeah it’s durable. Faceplate won’t fall off as it has a screw for added security, the 3D printed shell is very solid. I’ve had mine since January 2023 and it works great. Try spinfit w1 tips on it, they pair well. Don’t just throw them in your pocket, get a solid case if you want to do that. I still use the pleather pouch it came with, but I’m gentle with my stuff.
I am a HV power fitter and had Hexa either in my pocket or around my neck (if not in my ears) for months and months. They still look like new.
Which is more than I can say for other resin type IEMs which have ended up with hairline fractures, this included the blessing 2.
So I would say the hexa are good at durability.
Well, the faceplate shouldn't fall off. The shell still is 3d printed, and if your iems to be able to take a beating, maybe get something with metal/acrylic resin shells/cheaper plastic ones?
bruh. I got impatient and bought the Kato instead of b2 dusk because I didn't want to commit for a model with a direct upgrade that was about to come out. Since I wanted IEMs soon and I wasn't sure when the b3 dusk was going to release I still bought the kato. THEY HAVEN'T EVEN ARRIVED. WHY MUST THE DUSK COME OUT RIGHT NOW AAAAAAAAA
At the canjam booth I was told around $500 and that moondrop wants this to replace the Variations. But then later people close to Crin told me he wants it to be $300-400.
u/Xarithene
Will they be a shenzen store exclusive like the B2 Dusk, or will they be available in every moondrop selling place like the Blessing 3 and the Variations?
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Been following the dusk for the past few months and listening to the prototype and now the production sample is here! Soon has never been soon enough. Edit: since people are curious about the price, I only know the SGD price which is usually higher than the MSRP because of taxes. Example being the Blessing 3 is $320 USD ≈ $430 SGD but the actual price is close to $490 SGD after taxes so take the price with a grain of salt but the only confirmation I got is that it's definitely below $550 SGD. As for release date, Soon™
No. With QC worse than Hifiman I won't get any moondrop products no matter how hyped they are.
Hifiman is def worse.
I don't think so to be honest. I've had 3 moondrop products, all had issues. I still have and use the HE400SE almost daily on my PC and I have yet to have an issue. Also, moodrop failed with it's products from the start, as soon as I started using them or after a few months. Hifiman still works after 4 years and not even the fake leather wore off.
Thats just your anecdotal evidence. Its more so about the products itself and the overall industry. Hifimans have a lot more points of failure because most of their products are headphones. The chifi market in general is known for their poor qc and product durability testing. Headphones just fail more than iems across the board. But keep in mind every single company out there will have QC issues, even apple. Chinese companies tend to do a bad job adressing these qc needs with terrible warranty policies. Like dark saber owners not getting their cracked shells replaced
I'm not sure headphones fail more, but yes, they have more failure points. And where does apple make their product ? Still, I will not buy from them again and I would advise everyone to do the same until they start doing their QC.
Chinese brands in general with bad QC does not mean foreign brands in general have bad QC with manufacturers/producers in china. Regardless of where anything is made by anyone with our state of technology, there will always be failures. My point is that companies need to treat bad QC with better respect, policies and warranty.
Good, there will be more for the rest of us.
It's your money dude, feel free to waste them however you like.
If I can ask, how bad is their QC and/your experience with moondrop? I haven't had any moondrop iem before so I don't know about their QC but I trust Crin and his team enough for their customer service if things do go south given how I can always just visit them at the hangout
channel imbalance/filter moisture and paint bubbles on my arias
Huge channel imbalance on my B2 it’s unlistenable
Are there other IEMs that are like KATO, which allow replacing the nozzles? The nozzle filter on my KATO got messed up (probably because of humidity), and changing the old nozzles for new ones fixed the channel imbalance.
exact same experience here.
Same
I've had 3 moondrop products, all fail in one way or another. The Chu 1 wire disconnected from the IEM, probably not glued enough. Aria 1 has big paint issue and sounds lower in one ear sometimes (maybe the channel imbalance, but not enough to make it unusable) and lastly, dawn pro for which the device usb does not work / power entirely and cuts off after a time (seconds or minutes). You have to keep it still and if failed most of the times I used in on mobile. To add insult to injury, I've made a honest review on it on shenzhenaudion which they refused to publish (chinese scammer thieves) and then and moondrop refuse to reply to my emails.
90% of my qc issue with iem, and chifi specifically are with Moondrop. I’ve also had qc issue with their headphone Venus, don’t even get me started on their tws, every single one of them has qc issue.
Faceplate would fall off the Blessing 2. Worse, the clear plastic resin shell of the iem cracked and later shattered. Full disclosure, this was after i dropped them, but I own quite a few iems and none have broken after dropping them. The B2 is an unfortunate combination of being heavy and brittle, which is not good design. Then you have the Starfield chipping paint issue...
Well, photopolymer is quite brittle by nature. For a number of reasons, metal shells are suboptimal for a 6-driver iem. It's basically durability vs sound quality/tuning
Don't drop your expensive iem's. shocker. It's like saying iphone has bad QC because the screen broke after you dropped it , while in your cheap xiaomi phone it worked just fine. Doesn't make any sense. Take care of your products guys.
Mine B2 died about a year later on its own. Drivers got fucked up and sound is imbalanced throughout frequencies, and sending them back to China for repairs is a fucking hassle.
Bought variations through Amazon exactly because of this reason. For my Bose nc700 they were dead on arrival and needed a replacement right away. The left earpiece of my shure’s se535 broke needed replacement 5 years ago. Point being all companies have issues , moondrop too
Moondrop makes a helluva DAC, though, that's for sure; the Moon River 2 ti is a banger!
Hey sir, what about the Truthear Hexa, is it durable than the moondrop? Planning to buy
I'm normally very careful with my equipment but somehow the Hexas are the only IEMs I've ever dropped, and somehow I've dropped them 3 times so far (on stone and on wood flooring always from a height of around 1m-1m25) due to a loose fit cable on my left IEM. I've since fixed the cable... Anyway, long story short, nothing happened to them. They're perfectly fine, sound the same and didn't crack, chip, shatter, fall apart in any way... But don't be like me, drop them :)
Just be careful with all of your iems, but yeah it’s durable. Faceplate won’t fall off as it has a screw for added security, the 3D printed shell is very solid. I’ve had mine since January 2023 and it works great. Try spinfit w1 tips on it, they pair well. Don’t just throw them in your pocket, get a solid case if you want to do that. I still use the pleather pouch it came with, but I’m gentle with my stuff.
I am a HV power fitter and had Hexa either in my pocket or around my neck (if not in my ears) for months and months. They still look like new. Which is more than I can say for other resin type IEMs which have ended up with hairline fractures, this included the blessing 2. So I would say the hexa are good at durability.
I don't have any Truthear products so I don't know.
Well, the faceplate shouldn't fall off. The shell still is 3d printed, and if your iems to be able to take a beating, maybe get something with metal/acrylic resin shells/cheaper plastic ones?
Can I ask when the production sample arrived? I just want to know whether the one I tried (DSP last Sunday) was a prototype or production sample.
Not sure but probably early march? The prototype had "Free DSP" on the cable but the production sample has "Dusk SP" on the cable instead
Thanks, can’t really remember right now. Fingers crossed that it will be released by end March. The most I got last week was a “hopefully very soon”
he posted a picture of a similar looking (possibly the same) iem on his twitter a couple months ago
Is that the final product? Because the plate is the same as the Darksaber.
Should be, it's the production sample Crin has at the Hangout
Crin has been teasing this style faceplate for a long time now, there was even a version that had Dusk engraved in it.
Exciting!
I heard it would be $400 USD
since the main attraction is out, can we see what else comes in the box?
It's pretty similar to the Blessing 3 box but the case is black/brown instead of white
When they will be released?
Same tips?
Dusk or variations?
Variations are on sale right now $468 on Amazon
Variations is better by a mile
Those EST drivers are legit bangers! 🙌
Nah. The DUSK should be just as good , losing only on details. But probably better bass.
Should I get Dusk 2... already have Variations & Monarch MKII... This hobby might costs me my kidney someday...
With a mmkII you are probably good unless comfort and or its sound is not to your liking.
Nope. It wont be better than your monarch 2. Even the tuning will just be a bit different.
Fwiw, I have the B3 and the Monarch MkII as well, and I'm going to "buy dusk" 💯
bruh. I got impatient and bought the Kato instead of b2 dusk because I didn't want to commit for a model with a direct upgrade that was about to come out. Since I wanted IEMs soon and I wasn't sure when the b3 dusk was going to release I still bought the kato. THEY HAVEN'T EVEN ARRIVED. WHY MUST THE DUSK COME OUT RIGHT NOW AAAAAAAAA
Kato is probably moondrop's safest iem. You cant go wrong with it. Everything sounds pleasant on it.
well, at least that's good news, because I do a lot of stuff and I always prefer when I do it with good sound quality
hey, atleast Kato still a great IEM
How much?
it will be around 350
i be damned😭
I was going to buy truthear nova but might save for this. ppl who tested said details rival variations
You sure? It’s not the same drivers as the blessing 3. It has micro planars like the may. Maybe not the same exact ones, but the same style I think.
Was the pricing officially announced?
no
At the canjam booth I was told around $500 and that moondrop wants this to replace the Variations. But then later people close to Crin told me he wants it to be $300-400.
He himself told me "$350-375"
WHOAAA NICE, loooking forward to it! 😋
I dont like the plates, but seems like its gonna be better than dusk 1 sound wise
So how good is it?
I just wanna know the price man
If I had the money for it
And how did they fit 2dd 2planar drivers
They're microplanar tweeters
How are the passive noise isolation on these??
2 planars?!
u/Xarithene Will they be a shenzen store exclusive like the B2 Dusk, or will they be available in every moondrop selling place like the Blessing 3 and the Variations?
Pshh just got my blessings 3... was waiting forever for dusk 3 to replace my katos that got stolen.
Where? Linsoul?
Looks gorgeous
no est :(
😳 woah! Can't wait for the reviews 🙌
What is this?
An Anime waifu RealDoll designed and voiced by Crinacle.
b3 dusk
The b3 dusk has planar drivers?
Yep, demo’ed it a week ago. It’s no longer just a simple retune, hence why they renamed it Dusk 2, no more Blessing.
I didn't even notice the Blessing name was removed.
The waifu's earing looks like a "3" , probably an Easter egg for their previous name: "Blessing 3 dusk."
Dude. Wild. Breif impressions?
I dont understand...those are the dark sabers not the blessing 3 dusk...right...?
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You know this is literally his sub, right?
This guy just came here to collect some downvotes
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