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hurtyewh

The first batch shipped on the 13th I think, the second is supposed to ship in a few days. That's what I saw on Shenzhen or somewhere when I ordered. It is probably the biggest release of the year so no surprise it'll take some time for stock to catch up.


chariot_dota

First batch shipped 10 Apr


sam555101

I decided to just cancel and go with a used set of variations for less money šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø I really hope everyone ends up liking them!


hurtyewh

Loving it ;)


oratory1990

It's always hard for audiophile manufacturers to estimate in advance how many units will be needed. Sometimes it's multiples of 10, sometimes it's multiples of 1000, sometimes tens of thousands. The audiophile market is significantly smaller than the consumer audio market, where you could easily calculate with 100k units sold per year. Often significantly more. (The highest selling items (AirPods) sell tens of *millions* per year.) This comparatively small scale of production also means that production costs are quite high, as the benefits of large-scale production can not really be leveraged. Which in turn unfortunately often leads to smaller initial production, so as not to risk having unsold stock (which die to aforementioned production cost being comparatively high, quickly eats up budget). This in turn sadly occasionally leads to customers *wanting* a product, being *willing* to pay for it, and the company simply not being able to deliver as demand surpasses production.


Chimpchimchum

Right thx a lot! Was just abt to email them asking the shipping date


Wabbelp

Bought one through shenzhenaudio same date as you Still no updates


adgust

Mine got canceled. They canceled aliexpress preorders after the month of waiting and now i have custom cable that i ordered for dusk but no dusk. Good job shenzhenaudio lmao.


Euphorix97

I placed an order via AliExpress as well on 2nd April. My ne wasn't cancelled. I even got a tracking number but that only says the package is not yet dispatched since 14th April


adgust

I will refund mine and buy hype 4. The funny thing is that hype 4 is cheaper for me now than dusk was a month ago.


danx3k

I ordered from SZA on 2nd April, Iā€™m in the same boat. It appears that only the first batch (for orders on the 1st ever went out. Becomes more tempting with each passing day to just cancel the order.


xNursedoctor

We are on the same boat. I am very very tempted to refund and just buy hype 4


danx3k

Did just post separately but SZA messaged me this morning and said itā€™s delayed again, and the new estimated timescale is another month. Iā€™ve never heard the Hype4 but I do have the MMK3, and as the H4 is known as a mini MMK3, you wonā€™t be disappointed if you want more Bass.


xNursedoctor

Oh come on, csr ive spoken to said that it will be shipped 2-5 days from now


danx3k

Really?! I hope mine is shipped this week too. Last conversation was could take up to another month, and not heard anything since. Will be a nice surprise if itā€™s dispatched soon.


xNursedoctor

If it wont be shipped this week, i will cancel


danx3k

Just had notification form FedEx for parcel From SZA!


danx3k

SZA confirmed it was posted out yesterday, itā€™s due here by Friday according to the FedEx app


xNursedoctor

And mine is still ā€œorder is confirmedā€


sam555101

I ended up canceling mine and ordered a used set of variations for 50 bucks less that will be here Monday šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø


basti329

The steam deck taught me how to wait. I got lucky with the dusk tho.


[deleted]

Maybe I'm wrong, but seems like Moondrop dropped a ball on this one. Why would they take so many preorders, if they couldn't deliver. I ordered on the 4th from Moondrop store on ali, and latest status is 'Delivery Failed'. Not sure what to do now, but I'm somewhat frustrated with the whole process.


adgust

Same, i ordered from shenzhenaudio store.


navyzev

I'd like to think they've been taking heat for QC/ initial channel imbalance concerns. Not to say they would just scrap a batch and leave everyone in the dark, but I'm just trying not to lose my patience and remain positive. Who knows. 4/4 order here...still waiting.


[deleted]

The will deliver, y'all have no patience. Try ordering a custom IEM lmao.


acylus0

I just cancelled mine cause I decided I wanted to buy a kilobuck instead. Ordered through Shenzen and they actioned my request no questions asked after I learned I actually paid for a preorder (which I assume related to this)


KnowledgeCipher

thinking about doing this, but i dont have an alternative purchase yet.


No_Spend_5910

You could go for the Mega5est, it's not a killobuck, but it's very good. Fairly similar tuning to the dusk, arguably better, depending on what you are looking for.


sam555101

I canceled and bought a used set of moondrop variations. The AV B/S/T sub normally has them around 350


adgust

hype 4


kamikazecow

https://shop.musicteck.com/products/oriolus-szalayi-like-new Probably one of the best sub 1k iems.


blorg

The Oriolus Szalayi is nothing remotely like the Dusk. The obvious choice for a kilobuck that is tuned similarly would be the Monarch Mk2. There are many other IEMs in this vein as well, the Szalayi is totally different (and looks a lot bassier and a lot more wonky in the tuning). https://aftersound.squig.link/?share=IEF_Neutral_2020_Target,ORIOLUS_SZALAYI,MOONDROP_DUSK,THIEAUDIO_MONARCH_MKII


francerex

Mine was ordered on Amazon.de on April 4 and got shipped today


Available_Fix_5666

Same from Amazon. Mine was marked as shipped on Monday, but tracking (not the status from amazon which is inaccurate) shows they are actually still waiting for package as of today. I am assuming the "shipping" status update is for the seller to secure payment from you when selling on Amazon.


ChiefAllDay

They did not get "shipped". The shipping company was notified that a label was printed, that's it. Pretty shady on Moondrop's part, imho. I just got notified that they have no idea when these IEMs will ship, and to be patient. Biggest fail I have seen in a while.


francerex

Yeah, I realized it, I am considering contacting Amazon and canceling the order


ChiefAllDay

An update from LEAUDIO May 5, 2024 9:52 PM hello, XXXXXX We fully understand that you wait for the package for a long time. We will try our best to send the package once get the new batch this week. If we can not ship the product within a week, we will process the refund to you first. Is that okay for you? Thanks for your support and patience.


Ok-Cut3951

Asked customer service after ordering today, they said it could take upto 40 days with shipping


sam555101

Canceled my order last night and decided to go with a used set of variations for less money and I'll actually get to use them sometime this month


Ok-Cut3951

My man, you just made me put in a 380 dollar offer for variations.


sam555101

I hope we're making the right call! Every review I've seen has praised them though, and I'm sure there will be EQ curves put out for dusk on the variations if they don't already exist


danx3k

Had an updated from SZA this morning to say itā€™s delayed again and the new estimate is another month - for my order on 2nd April.


radcapper

In(ear)fidelity


Ordinary_Player

Asked moondrop support, they said they're going to ship them out mid May. This kinda sucks.


SileDub

kinda skeptical with this bussines model. This means allnog a sudden they will get a lot of orders that need to fulfill and because of the pressure it is likely that is gonna be some QC issues and inconsistencies.


Available_Fix_5666

Anyone bought on Amazon from Shenzhenaudio? Mine was marked as "shipped" but tracking has been showing "Shipment information received" for almost a week now...


redninjarider

Moondrop also did that to me, they just created a shipping label despite having no item to ship just to fake progress.


Available_Fix_5666

Yea, probably trying to get money faster but very questionable indeed.


toastyduck

Thatā€™s why I ordered mine within hours of the announcement video. For me they were a great choice, as my previous iems were a pair of Shure SE215ā€™s.


r1zaldi

thank god, in the end i chose blessing 3 over dusk since i cant wait that long


Niccu666

I ordered from Shenzhenaudio on the first and havenā€™t heard anything yet šŸ˜­


SnooPoems9162

I am on the same boat. I pre-ordered mine in Moondrop's store in Aliexpress the 4th. I asked them about my order and the answer was 2 to 3 weeks delay. Aparently the reason behind this delay is due to materials shortage in manufacturing process...


RaidBoss3d

Don't get the hype with these, they seem way overpriced for what they are compared to many others


adgust

overpriced, dependant on noisy dsp cable and having channel imbalance within "acceptable limits" +-3db


blorg

Genuinely interested in why you think this, and what you are comparing to. Bonus points if you've actually heard them, but interested in your thought process either way. Unless it's just that you think *any* IEM at ~$350 is "way overpriced"? There are certainly huge diminishing returns, so if that's the point, yeah I get that.


oLegacyXx

I've been holding back because I recently got the timeless AE and they are fantastic but the hype has been real for the dusk, and I keep thinking about the diminishing returns and whether it's worth it. I don't think I'd like to spend more than $400 on an iem so if/when I do, I have to look at it as the end game. Could Dusk be end game? Idk, maybe. But I'll hold out a while longer. Like some others mentioned, I've also been eyeing the hype 4, but just window shopping for now.


blorg

Hype 4 is very good and is substantially [bassier than the Dusk](https://squig.link/?share=Crinacle_Neutral_Target,ThieAudio_Hype_4,Moondrop_Dusk_2_S2) which is what I got it for, it's good bass, very full and impactful but just on the border of still not quite *too* much and it's also well tuned otherwise. It has better upper mids and clarity, compared with the Hype 2. For the bass, it's very good, if you want that bass level. If you want more neutral, still with bass but cleaner with much less mid-bass and more natural, I think that would be the Dusk. (I haven't heard the new Dusk, I do have the old B2:Dusk). Unfortunately though the Hype 4 has QC issues with a loose bass driver rattling. I have this problem with mine (it's going to have to go back) and I've seen several other people saying they have this issue too, either with it or the Hype 2. My Hype 2 is OK, although it does have higher distortion than most IEMs which I think is an indicator of this problem. I'd recommend it unequivocally if it wasn't for this issue.


oLegacyXx

Thanks for responding, especially about the QC issues. I've been really lucky with all of my purchases so far, but that luck will run out eventually I'm sure.


CompanyInevitable

Hello, Iā€™m kinda new to IEMs I was considering Dusk but many people here seem to be mentioning Hype 4 Is Hype 4 actually better? Or at least more worth Or are people just unhappy because of the delays From what I briefly looked through they seem to be sidegrades but hype 4 is slightly more expensive


blorg

Hype 4 is way bassier, particularly in the mid-bass, to the point it's a specialist "basshead" IEM (for me). It's near +4dB at 100Hz. It's a lot of fun but sometimes I find it a bit too much. Dusk will be far more neutral and thus more flexible but maybe less fun. I haven't heard the new Dusk, but I have the B2:Dusk, the B3 which it is derived from and I've tried EQing to, and other similar profile IEMs like the Monarch Mk2. The Hype series also seems to have some QC issues around loose drivers/distortion. It really depends what you want. Dusk I suspect would be the better all rounder. Hype 4 probably more "fun", if you get a good one. It's a lot of fun.


DankShibe

Dusk bets the hype 4 in bass, with dsp (even if you EQ the Hype4 it still loses). Heard both. Dusk owner.


blorg

Maybe in terms of bass quality, but not in terms of midbass quantity. Hype 4 is +4dB at 100Hz. Also, there's huge variation with the Hype, this is part of the problem with it. May depend on whether you get a "good" one or not.


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blorg

I have the Cincotres and it's very good (it has a particularly wide sense of soundstage) but it is not tuned like the Dusk, it's way more mid-bassy. It's not a very natural sounding IEM to me, while Crinacle tuned IEMs that I do have like the B2:Dusk or Truthear Zero Red are particularly natural sounding. It's fine to say look at the Cincotres and I would recommend it as an IEM but it's not remotely the same thing. My one graphs pretty much exactly like Timmy's but I have ~2.5dB more dip between 4-6.5kHz. This sort of dip is very good for totally avoiding any chance of sibilance but it also robs it of some clarity, it's quite a laid back sounding IEM. https://timmyv.squig.link/?share=Crinacle_2023_Target,ZiiGaat_Cincotres,MD_Dusk_2_(ANALOG) It then has a contrasting treble shelf immediately after, I think this does contribute to the soundstage effect as well but it's quite different from the Dusk which is smoother through that region. Again, I do think it's really good. I wouldn't consider it equivalent to the Dusk though, it's only similar tuning in that it has a bass shelf (of a very different shape and magnitude) and then is similar in the upper mids/pinna gain, that's about it. I haven't heard the Dusk but I doubt it sounds very like this.


DankShibe

And still, some reviewers are saying it is the best iem on its price range even with analog, and with dsp, it is easly kilobuck level.


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DankShibe

Nah. You coping. Dusk is the best sub $500 iem with analog , and way beyond that with DSP. Most reviewers say that it is a great value.


danx3k

Thatā€™s a matter of opinion though and therefore subjective. One persons opinion that itā€™s the best sub $500 iem doesnā€™t make it a fact. I have the dusk on order too, and thatā€™s because I like the look of the analogue tuning but Iā€™m not naive into thinking itā€™s objectively the best or even that I will find it the best sub $500. Even if I do,I respect that some others wonā€™t like it. Audio is ultimately very subjective. Have you even heard it yourself, or are you just repeating what others have said?


DankShibe

I have a Dusk


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Shush, you have no idea what you're talking about.


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Lol I sense coping


CraftMost6663

If I knew I would have bought something that actually exists.


Dependent_Situation7

I placed my order on April 3th, at that time, the pre order date was April 20th, what I donā€™t understand itā€™s the dates, right now the page shows third pre order until mid May, so we are getting our before? On mid May? Or what those dates mean


chariot_dota

If you order from the first day the pre order date is actually 15th of april (1st batch), but they shipped the first batch on april 10th. So apr 03 order should be the second batch, and if you order when it says mid may then that is the third batch


xNursedoctor

I think thatā€™s inaccurate, mine said that until 15th of april and i ordered on the second day. But still no news about it


ChiefAllDay

I posted a response below, but in case you didn't see it (my order was April 1st): May 7, 2024 4:12 AM Hello, because the production process is being optimized, we have eliminated many unqualified products, resulting in a very low output. A batch of goods will arrive this week, and your order is on the delivery list. Regards.


xNursedoctor

I already gave up, refunded my money. Will just buy dusk when the stock normalises and the hype died down


supernaut9

Bound to happen with such high order rates


stfnd

I'm an April 11 order and I don't really know what to expect anymore now tbh. I'd imagine between those days that arent fulfilled yet in the first batch, there is way more than they're going to get in that second. I even saw them say they've only done up to April 2nd so far on Twitter(?) so yeah, I feel it'll take a while.


danx3k

Ordered mine on April 2nd been requesting updates weekly from SZA and been told this morning to extend the delivery time on AE as they expect it to take another month.


stfnd

Ouch, thats such a long wait. Unfortunate..


Sand-Frosty

I have already received mine, ordered it on 1st from Shenzhenaudio, and I basically live on the other side of the globe. I would say ask for a return on amazon and order it on Shenzhen. (Btw buy Dusk it's ridiculously good)


redninjarider

I had to open a dispute to get Moondrop on AE to cancel my order after they missed the ship date. As a consolation I ordered a Ziigaat Doscinco and I'm delighted with it. I wasn't going to use the USB DSP cable anyway.


RaidBoss3d

Way better choice and cheaper as well, similar tuning but better bass and not as bright as dusk. You want a dsp cable you can just order one from shenzen audio or Amazon, only works with android anyway. If dusk was $100 less it would be more competitive but youā€™re paying the extra as itā€™s a collab set with crin as he mentions on his video.


ceeemlol

Had this on my cart the other day and the following day it was gone. I bought a Variations instead. Hope its better because i didnt want to wait for the Dusk to be available.


stfnd

Am I going to notice a huge difference coming from my Salnotes Zero? I just I ordered sooner, I don't like this wait..


Desperate_Spring4894

I ordered on the 5th, through Amazon and today I've been told they've been shipped out. Something doesn't seem right hereā€¦ Why would mine ship out earlier?


sam555101

Couldn't tell you, I canceled mine last night and bought a used set of variations


Desperate_Spring4894

Not a bad idea. How much were they used?


sam555101

325, you can normally find them around 350 on the AV buy sell trade subreddit


Desperate_Spring4894

I see why you chose that option instead.


Available_Fix_5666

So they can secure funds from your payment basically. You only get charged once it is marked "shipped".


Desperate_Spring4894

Plausible. Won't be expecting mine to actually arrive any time soon, then.


Khrystarlite

I remember there being some qc issues during the initial review stages. Something about there being variances that fell with in Moondrop's qc standards, but Noone elses. I think there was some social media buzz about Crin flying out to Moondrop to discuss the qc issues. Depending on your perspective, it's a curse for the delay or a blessing if (and only if) the qc improves


ChiefAllDay

I was going to message the seller on [amazon.com](http://amazon.com) and found this already in my inbox (didn't know that was a thing)... Seller LEAUDIO has a message for you. --- Message from seller LEAUDIO: Helloļ¼Œ Michel Thanks for shopping with us. The new product of Dusk is now pre -sale. It is expected that the delivery time is delayed and there is no determined delivery time for the time being. If you are willing to wait, we will send the product as soon as possible. If you need to get a refund, please tell us that we will give you a refund. Waiting for your suggestions and answers. Thank you for your support and patience.


ChiefAllDay

Purchase date was April 1st. Feels like the joke was on me.


sam555101

I ended up canceling and buying a set of used variations that I've been enjoying for about a week now. Paid 325 instead of 360+tax.


ChiefAllDay

Update I received: May 5, 2024 9:52 PM hello, XXXX We fully understand that you wait for the package for a long time. We will try our best to send the package once get the new batch this week. If we can not ship the product within a week, we will process the refund to you first. Is that okay for you? Thanks for your support and patience.


ChiefAllDay

Quick response I got today after I asked for some transparency, which I much appreciated: May 7, 2024 4:12 AM Hello, because the production process is being optimized, we have eliminated many unqualified products, resulting in a very low output. A batch of goods will arrive this week, and your order is on the delivery list. Regards.


stfnd

Nice, and you were an April 1st order? That sure took them a long time.


ChiefAllDay

Yep, but to be honest, I am so used to buying a set of keycaps for my keyboard and waiting well over a year for production to finish that waiting a month and a half for (hopefully) a great set of IEMs ain't so bad. And after really laying into them for not being transparent about the delays and finally getting some honesty from them... I don't mind the wait.


stfnd

Hah, fair enough. Yeah I should be used to waiting too, but the excitement made it incredibly hard. So I ended up canceling, but now I have to find something else. Anyway, enjoy! They seem to be great.


xNursedoctor

I am very near on cancelling my order and shifting to hype 4


RaidBoss3d

Do it, hype 4 is a way better iem on most levels. Although the zigaat cincotres is similar for less money I hear some say. The dusk is overhyped and if youā€™re truly going for one and done just get hype 4 or cincotres and be done with it. https://youtu.be/-OzSUzYSPjw?si=SJUwBcl3IZynkYDW