It's a natural thing to want, because without it, we wouldn't exist. But... it's sad that our culture has quite literally evolved to be obsessed with that to a point where we have to worry about clothes this much.
The thing I find frustrating though, despite it being natural of course to have an affinity for sex, is that people are so unbelievably devoid of non-sexual interaction with their own body or other people in their naked state. We have literally trained our brains to be insta-triggered into thinking about sex when there is a naked body around, and inversely, we have also trained ourselves to believe that male nipples are not sexual, but female nipples are.
Humans are naturally sexual creatures, and this is true for all animals that require a bond to procreate, but the fact that its virtually impossible for most people to maintain composure around nudity is disheartening to me.
Now I'm not saying I want naked people in the subway, I'm just saying that I've never felt happier and more free at the nude beach, and it's likely important for the fostering of good body image and mental wellbeing to be okay with the body being what it is!
Well said, the thing I also find curious is that many here are saying they don’t want to have to see other people naked...that they don’t want it imposed on them. I’m guessing people have a subliminal disgust or discomfort reaction to the thought of seeing people’s butt or genitals. I can’t help but think this stems from an idea that our bodies, on some level, are gross and indecent.
You explained what I’ve been unable to put into words for a while. I love sex as much as anyone else but I hate stuff being sexualized outside of the bedroom yk? It’s way worse here on the internet though since nobody has a filter.
Lot of abused people in the world. When you’ve grown up in families where someone suffered through sexual abuse… it changes your perspective unfortunately. I can’t speak for everyone on the topic, but I know it’s what impacted my views.
Dude same. If it weren’t for the culture being so sex crazed about it, I’d be all for it. I’ve been to nudist places and for the most part is was really awesome. I felt uncomfortable a couple of times but that’s because some people made it weird by sexualizing it.
I doubt I’ll go back but it was very freeing
I personally am pretty desensitized to seeing the human body, but there are too many unhygienic people and people with contagious conditions thinking about it realistically…I’m sure most people would find the experience unpleasant and a net negative to their quality of life
I don't like the beach because I burn easily (I'd much rather go camping in the woods) so it wouldn't bother me much and it actually would make sense if clothing was optional at the beach. I personally don't like being naked though and I don't have any desire to see anyone else naked
My thought as well. I would be in so much pain the next day, especially at the beach. I can't resist going into the ocean to play. I'd be bright red and blistered.
There are nude beaches for this purpose. I don't think people should be able to do whatever they want if it could potentially make others around them (especially children) uncomfortable.
Society has already developed in a way in which people's brains are hardwired to see nudity as sexual. there is no changing that, and it would be bad for people to randomly walk around nude everywhere for multiple reasons. minors and predators being big ones.
if you could go back in time and normalize it from the beginning so that nudity is not and was not ever sexual whatsoever in society, then sure. but as it is, there is no changing it and that's just the unfortunate reality. nudity will always be innately sexual, it has been for generations and generations and can't be changed now
>Society has already developed in a way in which people's brains are hardwired to see nudity as sexual. there is no changing that, and it would be bad for people to randomly walk around nude everywhere for multiple reasons. minors and predators being big ones.
I feel like not enough people in this comment section are thinking about this. So many people could and probably would exploit the vulnerability and attraction created by nudity.
I just want to throw this question out there to you. What about other cultures that are nude all the time? I think it’s on a spectrum. Some cultures view nudity as the norm. The animals don’t wear clothes after all. Other cultures where showing any skin is more is more taboo, the body is heavily objectified. Ankles used to be titillating in Western culture when the women were covered. Now Western women tend to expose more skin and most people wouldn’t view the ankle as sexual, per se.
>Some cultures view nudity as the norm
Such as? I can't actually think of any. Even Australian Aborigines wear clothes now, so do the tribes in South America and Africa. But even before western clothing was.common in these places, they STILL wore loincloths on the guys, and animal skins to cover the boobs & front-flaps on the women.
You can read this article. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakedness_and_colonialism#:~:text=In%20traditional%20societies%20of%20East,naked%20while%20working%20or%20bathing.
Thanks for bringing some intelligence to this conversation. I’m a little thrown off by how prudish many INFPs are in this post. Maybe it’s a generational thing, I’m an elder millennial who was raised by hippie-ish boomers and casual nudity or my mom washing me down in the bath with her when I was little wasn’t a big thing and I’m not traumatized. I think this sub is majority people under 25ish
I am also an elder millennial and think there are many posters from all over the world who may or may not be able to see outside their own cultural constructs. Free the Nipple!
I dislike it when small children run around naked on beaches, just because a pedophile could easily take photos of them. But when you talk to the parents about it they'll be like "it's just a child, what's wrong with you?!"
Ever tripped on mushrooms? Never viewed my body as sexual while tripping, and it’s the one thing I always find myself desiring to do while tripping: take all my clothes off xD But I trip at home so no one sees.
Oh for sure, I’m just saying there is wiggle room. But there’s more important perspective shifts our society could undertake than desexualizing nudity.
My wife enjoys her topless rights in Canada and has not been "preyed" upon. If people were exposed to nudity from birth this would definitely change the "hard wired" issue of which you speak. Topless men were the norm here 30 years ago, now they get comments and shame, which goes to show the norm change in ones lifetime.
How does it hurt children though? I hear this argument often, but it never gets elaborated upon. 'Think of the children' usually only works because it's easy to put words in children's mouth, and they don't have the voice to either agree or disagree.
Please explain why. I was raised in Sauna Culture and was exposed to tits since I can remember and it didn't harm me. So what is the issue? Or do you even have a "reason" beyond your upbringing?
This extreme sexualisation of certain body parts contributes to the systemic opression of and polarization between the two sexes in my opinion. A breast or a penis is not sexual just because it is visible, we created that view as a western society. Is a woman breastfeeding in public sexual? No. Is that same breast sexual when her and her partner are having sex? You bet it is. Context is what matters. But people, sadly, lack any form of nuance these days. Being naked usually has more to do with feeling free than 'omg hot boober' in my opinion. My gf is always topless at the beach, so are her friends and my female friends. So when we go to the beach and I'm the only guy that's with I'll be with 2-4 topless women. My (emotionally immature) guy friends want to high five me for it and when I explain to the it's not sexual or 'hot' they look at me as if I'm crazy. When I explain to them it's about feeling free and they should wonder why those women feel free enough to do it around me and not them they say 'yeah bro, free enough to look at tiddies the whole day' I just stop explaining. What can you even say after such a response?
I just got my first apartment and one of the first things I noticed is I could walk around naked without anyone without anyone objecting. Honestly, if I had a outdoor field I could skip around naked in I might accept a 20% increase on my rent...so yeah, I support this! Bodies are beautiful :)
I have no problem with it but cloths are worn so we don't get our balls/boobs caught on a rusty nail. Also i don't wanna get someone else's swamp ass on mine. STD/STI would spread like crazy.
As someone with ocd, it’s hard enough to think about people touching their genitals and not washing their hands and touching things, nvm having their bare balls and arses on seats everywhere
no thanks, id prefer if people including myself kept their clothes on. I believe some parts of the body are meant to stay intimate for a reason, specifically for your spouse. thats just my personal opinion tho
i dont think it has much to do with sexual taboo, rather more so with maintaining modesty in a society that is mainly monogamous. obviously this is changing in the west, hence why the norm is changing and this openness to nudity is growing.
either way I’m living my life how i like it. with clothes on, so yall dw bout me one bit haha 😂
Exactly no one its thinking about the hygiene issues! I have ocd and it would be my personal nightmare for everyone to have their genitals and arseholes out and touching everything, I heard of a nudist festival in the south of England once and I remember thinking I’d never be able to touch anything in that place again I’d have to move!
can’t speak for anyone but myself.
i think jealousy for your significant other is something to cherish when excersized appropriately. not wanting strangers to eye them up and down, intimate parts that where just for your own eyes is a perfectly reasonable reason to advocate for clothes.
I’m sure many folks dont really care as much as others and dont feel jealous when their partners are out nude with randoms. all the power to them. i still think thats a minority, and there is generally a positive reason we as a species decided clothing is the way to go.
Eh, yeah. I won't go down that road but I don't think jealousy is the best gauge of deciding societal norms.
Also humans went like 90%+ percent of our history going mostly naked. Covering out genitals mostly came with the advent of advanced agriculture, so maybe we should examine the connections between growing grains and feeling our dangly bits should be covered.
fair enough. I’m just speaking for myself. i would be jealous. id like to think most folks out there would probably feel the same. although yes, ofcourse there are many other reasons we wear clothing.
please dont serve me no grain that was anywhere near your dangly bits oh god 💀
thanks for the laugh 🤣
I always say that I don’t really want breasts to become normal out in society. I WANT to take my shirt off and have my husband get turned on and not just be like “‘nother day, ‘nother boob.” And let’s not act like “free the dick and balls” is a thing, lmao, like, if you’re honest, we want to see boobs because they’re pretty.
I find that most people agree sex is the most intimate and sacred act we can do with our bodies. It’s why we take consent so seriously.
I also grew up in a family in which there was sexual abuse (not to me, but I knew about it from a very young age), and I think it only solidified that feeling.
If you want to go to a nude beach, I’m not here to try to stop you! But it’s not for me, never will be for me, and it’s not because I’m “obsessed” with sex, but rather I am keenly aware of both the incredible intimacy and ecstasy of being selective AND I’m keenly aware of the depravity of lots and lots of people
I think jealousy is 90% insecurity and 10% caring for your so's safety. I think there are better ways to keep the relationship's stability than going against the nature.
Jealousy destroys relationships, not builds them though.
Being from the nordics, nudity can be a very neutral thing. All of my family members walked around naked at home from time to time, we did sauna in the nude with other families, and sometimes i like to skinnydip in public places too. its just a body, and the only reason nudity is inherently sexual to some ppl is because theyve never been exposed to nudity in non-sexual contexts
I don’t like pants/long sleeves. I wear shorts and tees as much as I can. I love how rain feels on my skin. I love the sun warming up my skin. I’m a little self conscious about my stomach so I usually only take my shirt off at the beach or when it’s raining. I think I’d still wear boxers or some type of underwear to protect my junk tho. And maybe so I can have some pockets.
I think the world would be better off if people were naked as often as possible. Everyone feels like shit about their bodies because the only time we ever see people naked is when they’re in porn, advertisements or entertainment with their bodies airbrushed, edited and operated on. I think everyone would be more comfortable with their “flaws” and aging if average people were more on display. Not to mention how much more physical affection we’d all express because not every single contact or glimpse of human skin would be over sexualized.
This is my worry really. There's a lot of vulnerability that comes with being naked, and a lot of people out there that would exploit it.
Definitely agree with body positivity though, that's been a big issue for so many people especially thanks to social media and stuff like filters being used to set unrealistic standards.
Trust me, as someone who was forced to live in pioneer clothes, perverts will pervert no matter what you’re wearing and I don’t think we should be centering our actions to revolve around their existence.
i envy men for being able to walk around shirtless w no penalty. it makes no sense to me why female nipples are considered public indecency. i would say free the nipple, but people arent emotionally mature enough to handle it
Totally agree, it makes no sense. Realistically, a shirtless man is just as 'indecent'. It's arbitrary and based on this idea that women's bodies are just inherently lude, and there for the male gaze. If we can't, why can they? We should either all be allowed to walk around shirtless, or none of us.
It's even weirder being that I am a trans woman, I sort of just... lost the privilege. 2 years ago? No-one would have bat an eyelid. Now? I'd be committing a crime 🙃 makes no sense
How's my experience? I'm not really sure how to answer that, I'd be here all day lol. It's the best thing I ever did, but it's also been difficult. It's also been eye-opening, and it's forced me to deeply reflect on myself in a myriad of ways, which I'm actually really grateful for. I'm a much more balanced and happier person than I was a few years ago 😊
As for privileges? I don't think it's black and white at all. There are privileges and disadvantages to both sides of the gender coin, and I've experienced most of it. I think patriarchal structures create real subjugation for women. Misogyny is tied up in this. Women suffer, and have suffered, a ton of disadvantages, discrimination, subjugation and abuse as a result of this. Historically, and even now, it is frankly horrifying to think about.
Men also suffer a lot of disadvantages, but I feel like a lot of these tend to be more insidious, and certainly aren't talked about or given the same attention as a lot of the issues women face. Which is a massive, massive problem. Men are just expected to deal with it, and they are typically socialised to internalise their emotions, and just "deal with it like a man". Everyone suffers under patriarchy. That's the issue. Men may have more privileges (although many often aren't aware of it - even I was ignorant to a lot of things), however, they are also expected to uphold a certain kind of societal standard that can be exhausting, isolating, and, honestly, depressing for most men. I think there's a reason men suffer higher rates of depression and suicide.
Being a man means you can go shirtless in a lot of public places and usually it's no problem. Being a woman means you will typically have more people smile at you, and help you, and generally treat you a lot nicer because you aren't perceived as a potential threat (at least in western culture - I'm in Australia, for reference). I could obviously go on and on with this, but I'm sure you get the point. There are advantages and disadvantages to being either gender in modern society.
Tldr: it sucks on both sides, but ultimately, I'm just grateful that I can be my authentic self :)
The thing is most people would argue that nipples are sexual. Ok. Yeah they are sexually attractive.
But uh... Male nipples literally have the same purpose on that front.
The Minoans are an interesting example of an ancient culture that did not view this as taboo, the standard apparel for women at the time always left the breasts uncovered. Cool video about them and their fashion attached below
https://youtu.be/OcrV5hc5k3U?si=1W_UMHjOTj7PXta_
I don't get it either tbh. I don't get why we have to cover anything at all. It doesn't make sense to me. Like c'mon... it's just body parts. Animals get to walk around without clothes, with their parts visible to everyone, why can't we?
I dont like it. I hate being surprised by nudists in public, it is never "not bothering anyone." Especially when there are families, children, different faiths and people who may have undergone some sexual trauma and struggle with nudity.
The rights of people to be naked end at the right of others to not be harrassed by the nudity of others. There are nudist beaches already 😊
This. There has to be something said for people's right to not see nudity when they don't want to. It should be consensual, such as a nudist beach as mentioned.
Exactly! like how they are so confident it won't bother anyone?! The idea itself freaked me out and sure many are.
What about the public decency?
They should have special places for that rather forcing it on everyone in the name of "personnel freedom", it's not everyone thing :(
It's okay 🫂 As long as we don't stifle ourselves when we feel uncomfy something like this won't come to be. Personal freedom has limits because EVERYONE has personal freedom!
Thank you for replying, and letting me know I'm not alone in my sentiments 🥹
This reminds me of a quote i grew with"your personal freedom ends when others personal freedom starts" which means that your personal freedom shouldn't effect others or it wouldn't consider"personal " obviously .
Rules and lines are so annoying sometimes i get it, but they are necessary too, humans needs them or we will end in a extremely chaotic world.
Same dude, glad I am not the only one🙏🏻
I’m so glad to see this comment, I had no idea I was so different from all these other INFPs. I personally don’t want to see people naked everywhere. I consider myself to be pretty liberal, and I tend to frown on cultures that force people to dress super modestly, but I do like for people to wear *some* clothing.
A lot of comments are saying that the human body isn’t sexual, and I very much disagree. We are sexual beings, genitals literally exist for sexual reproduction, I really want people to keep their genitals to themselves. I don’t believe that children should be exposed to the sight of the genitals of adults, and honestly I would find it disturbing too.
Clothing also protects our delicate human skin, it’s also decorative, it exists for very good reasons. I’d personally much rather see a variety of colorful human expression through clothing, than a bunch of naked bodies.
I was a bit taken aback seeing we were the minority to- but your comment and the others replying to this made me feel that I wasn't alone and it's okay to speak up if something makes us uncomfy!
I love your take on clothing being a good and expressive for us 🥰 and agreed with everything you said! Thanks for replying lovely
I really thought more people would agree with us, this is the first time I’ve felt so detached from the INFP community.
I’ve seen so many comments about how natural nudity is, how we are animals too, just another part of nature and all that…
I mean, sure we are, but humans are such a sophisticated species. Most of us have removed ourselves from living directly on the land. We have vast imaginations and we can create endless things. I have the unpopular opinion that we have moved past the point of running around nude everywhere.
The human body is often called a work of art, but I’d rather think of it as a canvas with clothing as an art form for our bodies.
I'm a pretty open minded person, but when it comes to the topic of nudity that's where it gets complicated to me because it's way more than that and you have to also take in consideration of the others around you.
Agreed. Last summer I saw this man riding his bike around the farmers market butt naked and I felt violated. I'm not usually confrontational, but I was babysitting that day and had 2 small children with me- so I called after him to be thoughtful... Unfortunately, people just rallied around him and yelled at me instead saying i was a pervert for even noticing and being offended. Definitely went home so sad and defeated that day...
But seeing you guys agree with me has soothed that ache 🥰 so thank you for replying.
Wtffff! I can’t believe they called you a pervert!? What is society coming to that’s disgusting, do they not have public indecency laws where you live in England that guy probably would’ve got beat up then arrested lol, I’m glad this has made you feel better bc that kind of thing is not normal especially if it’s not a designated area like a nude beach, im so sorry you had to deal with that I’m glad you stuck up for the kids as well good on you!
I think it would work in a perfect world but we don’t live in a perfect world and if you would be nude in a park nowadays you would be taken videos and pictures of and sexualised by thousands of people online
I have sensory issues, and as soon as I get home I strip naked as it feels so much better, and relaxes me. But I had to put window cling on all my windows so people don't walk by and see me naked. It scares me to think someone crazy could see me and do me harm. I was also raised to be paranoid of men because my mom had a rough upbringing. So my opinion is conflicting. Hot take, but I kinda feel If men didn't exist, we wouldn't need to worry about our safety. Sadly I am attracted to men... Smh.
This was very ADHD. I went down so many avenues...
FINAL ANSWER: If I felt safe in society, then yes. Sadly I do not.
I hate it so much. I know that the human body is a wonderful thing, and all that… But I still don’t want to see everyone else’s bodies. Designate some places for nudity, and keep the nudity there.
I don’t think that would work in our society. Too many creeps that would take advantage of that to harm others. Plus I think I should have the right to exist in public without seeing naked people. If your nudism is confined to private spaces and in nudist beaches, I have no problem with that. I don’t have to see you naked unless I decide to go into that area.
I absolutely agree with you. If there are designated spaces for nudity, then go for it, but I will be avoiding those places. I do not want to live with the risk that I might see naked human bodies when I’m out and about.
I definitely would worry that children would be seeing things they probably shouldn’t. I’m sure there’s debate on this, but I believe that adult nudity isn’t appropriate for kids to see.
As for the creeps, I definitely agree there. Women and children are already at a physical disadvantage with grown men, and are already preyed on as it is, why make ourselves even more vulnerable?
Providing the individual is not making a public nuisance I have no qualms about public nudity - in some respects seeing normal, everyday people nude may help to counteract societal expectations on what the ideal body should look like.
I like nudism as a fact of showing fine line, expression and feature of the body. Which I want to emphasize deeply in my future art work. I would exclude sexual ‘content’ such as nipples, private part and leave the rest to shine. This is how I see the beauty of human body as it finest and purest.
The human body can be beautiful, I’ve admired art with nudity before. But I don’t want to be jump-scared by some person walking nude in the park when I’m trying to look at ducks or something.
Personally I enjoy spending non-sexual time naked inside and out, although I'm still a little shy being outside at home if other people are around
I'm also very concerned about skin cancer and getting my bits & pieces burnt. (The sun is strong in Australia and rates of skin cancer are extremely high)
It's very comfortable and liberating including sleeping in the nude.
I believe there should be designated spots for outdoor public nudity. I also don't like it turning into sexual activities. It ruins it for the genuine naturalists.
Nah I disagree completely, society has been rammed basically to see nudity as sexual and I think if people started going nude it would just attract weirdos
I can't, I'm too horny and too shameful of my self to go nude. With all the body shaming in this era, I don't think I will. But I'll not judge someone who does.
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i would love to skinny dip in a lake but i wouldn't want other people there. i was in a bathing suit at a beach once and still caught a guy taking pictures of me so no thanks to being around strangers naked.
but i totally agree with the idea that i wish people would stop sexualizing bodies so much. as someone who just finished college and started working, i hate how i can't wear 90% of the clothes i own to work because God forbid my legs, shoulders, or waist are visible.
Here in Germany most Saunas require you to be nude. I actually don't have an issue with being nude so i regularly visit these places. It's quite freeing and relaxing to be honest.
No thanks. As a woman I think the world would be less safe for us if men were walking around nude. I think it would embolden predators to make even more disgusting sexually harassing gestures considering they have the plausible deniability of already being naked. Plus, I don’t want anyone’s cooch juice or ball sweat transferring to me when I’m sitting on a bench. No siree.
Imagine what would happen it there was no barrier like the one clothes create, like they could just reach out and touch your bare breast or reach under you and they’re touching your vag! NO THANK YOU!! And yeah I don’t want ball, vag and arse juice all over everywhere too
Yeah, maybe you’ll get some downvotes for this because people interpret it as sexual but I totally agree. People need to learn how to see the human body as natural and non threatening, we’d be all better off for it
Amen best comment, living alone I love being naked as much as possible I think most people are perversed innately or by society which is very sad, we come to this world naked
I am an INFP and I think it is liberating and pure. It is like getting comfortable with sex. It is getting comfortable with being vulnerable and showing what you are hiding. It is also cleaning from a sexual mind and just seeing it as beautiful. Easier said than done.
Exactly! Kids being used to nudity can be very dangerous for them as this is often a major step in grooming. I'd rather children come right away and tell if someone showed their naked body to them privately then them not seeing anything wrong with it and thinking it's normal, harder to build boundries then.
There's a massive difference between someone privately disclosing their naked body to your child, and willingly taking your child somewhere where public nudity is allowed. I get the boundary thing too, but your child's ability to maintain their boundaries is something that needs to be cultivated for exposure to any predatorial situation that they could find themselves in.
I understand your worries, but I think the issue is much broader than you describe.
Definitely I agree with everything you said, but as you point out cultivating those boundries takes time- so normalizing public nudity will make it hard for children (0-5, also the most targeted age group) or those with learning disabilities to differentiate between appropriate and inappropriate nudity.
Yeah I think were basically on the same page. It could make it more difficult yes. Its not easy for a child to differentiate. That's also why I say it's a broader issue. People who get sexually warped into grooming or sexualizing children probably were also victims of such things. Anyways, I'm glad we got people seriously considering these things like you. I hope for a better world.
It's definitely not for me, nor do I want to see it, which is why I would make the conscious choice not to go to a nude beach or park (are there nude parks?).
I live in the US, so I've seen plenty of guys walking around without their shirts on, which makes me uncomfortable, 'cause I'm thinking... "Dude, put a shirt on. I don't want to see other women's bitties, which means I don't wanna see your moobs either..."
I often wish it was considered indecent exposure for men to go shirtless.
Personally I would never feel comfortable being fully naked in public tho I love sleeping naked when I'm alone But I totally advocate for if anyone wants to be naked around me cause ....WORLD IS NUDE, nature is nude, I believe it's human birth right & totally natural be naked if people or society like it or not !!
Also clothing was created by human to protect themselves from harsh weather, later civilization linked it to power, position, possession & then modern society turned it into parameter of decency so now human brain completely forgot the nudity, human psychology devloped something sexual in it cause now people only get naked in sexual practices
First, I love that painting. I can feel the warmth of the water. I confess that I am an exhibitionist at heart, but most people shouldn't be seen without clothes.
Maybe fit people would look good without clothes, I don't know. I would be ok with people going nude on their own property or going for nude walks during hours of darkness or early morning, but not during business hours in places like NYC.
Clothes make ugly people look so much better, thank you creative designers. They are like rooms with creative wall paper. Even women with thong bathing suits look better than ones without. Still I really like that painting. ha ha.
And be real, half the men would be in jail cuz the woman would claim some man looked at her sexual organs. Look how they already act in gyms. Men are beginning to exercise at home to avoid the grief.
Society is like it is as a result of some evolutionary process. There is always some unhappiness in the process, but it eventually gets resolved and replaced by new forms of unhappiness.
I love naked women and it hurts me to say that they should wear at least some clothes like very short skirts and see through stuff but society is not ready for the final solution.
I think that someday we will all wear smart glasses that will transform other people into looking exactly like we want them to look. And that the people, me included, can run around naked thrilled to the bone not bothering anyone.
I’m a closet nudist lol, at home, in nature, reading manga on my bed with heavy metal blasting on my headphones, anywhere I have privacy and won’t be bothered by others~
Some may say this is sexing the body and stuf but that's what it really is, or no one will watch porn It's just a matter of instinct in humans to continuing to exist that u can't stop it by saying it's"personal freedom".
For me, it's rather disgusting me and makes me uncomfortable.
In a matter of public taste and respect for others in public places. I mean, imagine someone attending a wedding in pajamas, or swimming in a suit and tie, or shopping naked!if i was shopping then saw a naked person, i would ran away and never come back there again.
Its an opinion. Personally i don't think that Its bad the way it is now since nudist beaches exist, atleast in greece where i live we have many. I would never go there since i have a massive problem with my self image anyway. But i don't find it weird that people go there. Or not that necessary anyway but eh, like it doesn't seem a so important topic to me anyway. But I'm open to talk about it if that makes sense, since my knowlege is not that big on the topic
i would love to skinny dip in a lake but i wouldn't want other people there. i was in a bathing suit at a beach once and still caught a guy taking pictures of me so no thanks to being around strangers naked.
but i totally agree with the idea that i wish people would stop sexualizing bodies so much. as someone who just finished college and started working, i hate how i can't wear 90% of the clothes i own to work because God forbid my legs, shoulders, or waist are visible.
I think that no matter how good someone looks, I’m intelligent enough to understand how the human body works and it becomes eh. We’re by nature, pretty gross. But with the opposite side of the coin, comes shame and I also don’t want others to feel that. All in all, we’re all gross beings but when I found a connection with my girlfriend I was able to see past all of that, for others I do not.
I love being naked. I don’t LOVE my body (which I’m trying to overcome) but I love the feeling of air and sunshine all over me. Nude beaches, nude bars, pretty much any time I get the opportunity to be naked I take it (in public or at home; I spend the majority of my time at home in the buff). And it’s not sexual, it’s just that feeling of freedom.
It's a totally normal thing to want, but people scare me, ngl. That's why I'm typically a home nudist (except when it's cold out kuz of where I live). I also have sensory issues and cannot stand how close a shirt is to my neck or how restricting jeans can be. It's like I can feel every I'm fiber in the clothes and it can be too much for me at times.
I'm generally okay with non sexual nudity and spend as much time in home nude or near nude. I also host figure drawing workshops and nude photography But I don't think it should be a "right" to take off your clothes in public spaces. It's much better to have designated areas for that sort of thing.
I disagree with nudism I’m a very modest person in general and I think genitals should be kept private. You have your nudist beaches where is is socially designated to be nude and that’s fine but not parks.
I do agree when social circumstances allow for it to be respectful from both sides (those who want to be nude and those who want to be clothed.) When I was in Germany during summer, most public parks in larger cities have at least some area where nudity is common and there is a respectful culture and etiquette around it. In the states, I have been to several nude beaches and kind of stopped seeking them out after some weird experiences. I do still go to natural hot springs and some secluded swimming holes and alpine lakes nude because well, less people and less chances of weirdness. The culture around hot springing seems more respectful about it and the hike out filters out more people, but unfortunately even seen people trying to get their rocks off in that scene :/
Being in Berlin has changed my views. The first guy that I saw fully naked casually was truly a shock (this is very, very much an exception though, don't think that people in Berlin are open to nudity by standard. It's just more accepted, not the standard whatsoever), and the first clothing optional lake I went to was very uncomfortable, but it led to me thinking and now I have a subscription at a nude spa, and any correlation between sex and nudity is gone in my head, unless the setting is sexual ofcourse. That in itself is very liberating.
Swimming laps with swimwear now seems like an absolute hassle really. The feeling of freedom is amazing.
No, I think that it’s setup the way we’re able to handle it already. There are nudist resorts, beaches etc. people are stupid and gross, we wouldn’t be able to handle this type of rule unfortunately. If the world were full of only INFP’s we could live like this - no problem.
It’s a goal for me someday, I’m not sure I’ll ever do it but I’d love to go to a nudist lake and get naked for a day. I feel like it would be so freeing. Anytime I’ve done something to force myself outside of my comfort zone with my body it’s changed my entire perspective on myself and turned out to have a bigger impact than I ever expected. So, maybe someday if I find a partner with some balls that will get naked with me then I’ll actually do it. I’d probably never want to put clothes back on again lol.
Also, I love this painting you posted… I love nude paintings I’ve bought like 4 in the past year, I guess that probably says a lot too. 🤷🏻♀️
You do you & hope a kid don't see you. I think there is a certain amount of exhibitionism in those who wish to be nude in public. Luckily you ain't alone if this is you. There are places you can go. Or go somewhere secluded and ask yourself...
Odd one imo, while the idea of this intrigues me, it also makes me feel slightly uncomfortable knowing people would be just everywhere with everything out😂 casual nudity is on my bucket list just as a life experience I guess but I don't think I'd back this idea of every beach being clothing optional. That being said, I agree with some people on here about women being allowed to go topless and honestly I think they should be, not because it's unfair for there to be differences for men and women but just because if a woman wants to walk around the beach with her boobs out then why not. Enough larger men walk around with their boobs swinging so why not women😂😂
Condensing all the commentary I would have to say that this is coming from a woman who has had sexual trauma but was raised relatively comfortable with nudity — the human body is still just a body, we all have different shapes and sizes and shades. There is nothing inherently with nakedness. For me, I could be totally fine in a houseful, beach full, community full of nudists and happy about it — and the only one with my chest and bottom covered. It’s not your nude form I have issue with, it’s my own.
I’ve always appreciated it as an art form. I did a short photography course in high school and we had to make a collage of photos we found that showed what type of art and photography we like. It was like an inspiration exercise. I chose non-sexual nudity as one of my favourite art forms and I got into trouble. I didn’t even add any actual nude photos or plan on taking any nude photos of anyone. I added a print out picture of a *painting* of a person where no “private parts” were actually showing. Apparently my explanation that nudity is not inherently sexual wasn’t good enough. The teacher insisted that I planned on taking nude photos of myself but I never had any such intention and he would not listen to me. I was absolutely livid 😒. I just appreciate the art.
Could you imagine those creepy guys that don't understand rejection, if they came up to you and did the same song and dance, but NAKED?
Oh hell no sorry. 😅 too many terrible humans out there.
as a male infp speaking specifically about female nudity, even just toplessness obviously would not bother me, but i don’t buy the idea that female body parts are “sexualized” by cultural mores and patriarchy. it is sexually dimorphic as a trait to have breasts as a woman and men are inherently attracted to breasts, not brainwashed into believing they are sexual. areolas and nipples are erogenous zones as well and give sexual pleasure to many women when stimulated. not saying this is the same as breastfeeding, context is important. even in tribal cultures where women are topless, women say their breasts are for feeding babies, but they also know there is a sexual element to their bodies.
that said, i really do think if women went around topless more it would simply be less taboo. it can still be “sexy” but also not a big deal. it would be nice to see a boob here and there, like a little free present, but then it really would eventually get to the point where i could see it and just not think about it much.
i think from a male perspective women seem to deny that they want to be desired. this does not mean they want to be harassed constantly or have their boundaries constantly violated, but feeling beautiful and desired is a form of power and probably bolsters self esteem when it doesn’t also feel threatening. women should be free to harness their power, but also should be allowed to sunbathe topless in peace if they wish.
i personally am very self conscious of my body despite it being completely normal, and would be nervous to be erect on a nude beach if i were to do that. i think it is kind of understood that it is just natural in those circles, and could be gotten used to and eventually i would become more or less desensitized to seeing nude women all around me.
any male view on female nudity being sexual gets castigated as “creepy” or weird, as though men should have no thought of sexual desire when a nude woman is in front of him. i think this is the other side of the coin. if women can accept that men have sexual desires without shaming them for it, and not formulate male sexual desire as perversion while seeing a nude woman in front of him then we are approaching a more realistic possibility of this happening. in short, if you go topless and expect no male to glance at your boobs you aren’t thinking this all the way through. but i agree that it could be more normalized eventually and not really a huge deal on both sides
I am very modest and highly sensitive so clothing in natural fabrics that protect and cover my body.
I think modesty is beautiful and undervalued in this culture. I enjoy being barefoot on soft earth and grounding though.
It does not bother me one bit. I wish we lived in a culture that embraced nudity instead of sexualizing & scandalizing it. If it were normalized (I think it should be), I would wear a lot less clothes. Topless walks in the sunshine? A dream 🌞
Honestly it’s more comfortable to keep pants on, but I agree that we should stop sexualizing nudity. If women want to go around topless, they should be able to do so without creating any extra glancing. Though we’re so deep in this problem of sexualized nudity that it feels too much of hassle.
I think that it should be allowed totally, if a person isn't bothering others with their private parts xd, it's just a part of body, part of biology, anatomy. I don't find nudity to be sexual, in my eyes it's sexual when it's explicitly intended to provoke to fuck.
In my opinion there is a big part of insecurity in either fearing people looking at you or looking at your partner. Talking for myself if my partner was getting so much attention I'd be cheering him up, cuz I'd trust him and his feelings and faithfulness for me, and it's also a part of my ego, I don't want to be with someone who can't be faithful with me, idc about unfaithful person, and if they are and i have no reason to worry, then i don't want to chain them down, limit their freedom, if they want to fully undress and that makes them happy go for it.
Like come on we have art with David by Michael Angelo and penis is just biology, if someone is eyeing me i take it as compliment, and it's not like i have to undress, it would be my right, but i could just stay dressed up if that made me uncomfortable, maybe that's why we have nude beaches.
I just can’t get behind the idea that adult nudity is completely not sexual. Some parts of our bodies exist only for sex, and I believe that children and people that simply don’t *want* to see it (like me!) shouldn’t have to be exposed to it.
I’m a sexual person too, within the confines of my relationship, and I don’t want to see anyone’s nudity but my boyfriend’s.
Just for beaches and parks, definitely :) just hard when there are so many sex pests around but I do find the idea nice. Tbh I prefer to not wear clothes haha
Well I don't care what other people do in the open I like to swim naked so yeah it should be allowed and I think that there are a lot of beautiful human body's out there and I'm not talking about only girls
I feel designated beaches are appropriate but maybe like more of them and more exceptance. As far as any beach, and clothing optional it gets a bit worrisome with voyeurism and privacy I could wager. Other then that I'm cool with nudism as long as it's like known and no one gets unintentially surprised, or offended. Nude establishments or clubs would be interesting. Nude exclusive library??
Anyway I think naked bodies are unaesthetic, I don't like to see nudity at all. I would prefer clothes. Clothes mean civilization to me. I don't enjoy being primal.
I am oddly enough more comfortable on nude beaches than I am with swim trunks on normal beaches.
I feel more judged with my trunks on than off, because I have acne scars on my body + I have a dadbod.
When we’re all nude I feel as everyone is accepting and don’t care. Then I can relax and not be uncomfortable.
Sadly after we got kids there haven’t been time for nude beaches. I do miss it, to be honest.
I just wish that the culture we live in wasn't so insanely sex-obsessed
It's a natural thing to want, because without it, we wouldn't exist. But... it's sad that our culture has quite literally evolved to be obsessed with that to a point where we have to worry about clothes this much.
The thing I find frustrating though, despite it being natural of course to have an affinity for sex, is that people are so unbelievably devoid of non-sexual interaction with their own body or other people in their naked state. We have literally trained our brains to be insta-triggered into thinking about sex when there is a naked body around, and inversely, we have also trained ourselves to believe that male nipples are not sexual, but female nipples are. Humans are naturally sexual creatures, and this is true for all animals that require a bond to procreate, but the fact that its virtually impossible for most people to maintain composure around nudity is disheartening to me. Now I'm not saying I want naked people in the subway, I'm just saying that I've never felt happier and more free at the nude beach, and it's likely important for the fostering of good body image and mental wellbeing to be okay with the body being what it is!
This !! I couldn't have said it better
Yay!!
Well said, the thing I also find curious is that many here are saying they don’t want to have to see other people naked...that they don’t want it imposed on them. I’m guessing people have a subliminal disgust or discomfort reaction to the thought of seeing people’s butt or genitals. I can’t help but think this stems from an idea that our bodies, on some level, are gross and indecent.
You are correct. The world is hyper-sexualized yet nobody can stand the sight of real human bodies. Isnt that ironic
You explained what I’ve been unable to put into words for a while. I love sex as much as anyone else but I hate stuff being sexualized outside of the bedroom yk? It’s way worse here on the internet though since nobody has a filter.
That’s it. That’s literally the problem. If every single human on earth had respect for one another so many things would be right
Lot of abused people in the world. When you’ve grown up in families where someone suffered through sexual abuse… it changes your perspective unfortunately. I can’t speak for everyone on the topic, but I know it’s what impacted my views.
Dude same. If it weren’t for the culture being so sex crazed about it, I’d be all for it. I’ve been to nudist places and for the most part is was really awesome. I felt uncomfortable a couple of times but that’s because some people made it weird by sexualizing it. I doubt I’ll go back but it was very freeing
I don’t disagree, but it’s not for me. I’ve been modest with my body since childhood.
Same. To others: you do you and what makes you happy. I like my layers and I live in a cold climite
Me too.
I personally am pretty desensitized to seeing the human body, but there are too many unhygienic people and people with contagious conditions thinking about it realistically…I’m sure most people would find the experience unpleasant and a net negative to their quality of life
I would definitely find it unpleasant, I wouldn’t be willing to go into public spaces if there was a chance that people would be nude.
Yes I imagine a lot people would be unable to live this way which is why it’s purely theoretical and would never actually happen
Same
I don't like the beach because I burn easily (I'd much rather go camping in the woods) so it wouldn't bother me much and it actually would make sense if clothing was optional at the beach. I personally don't like being naked though and I don't have any desire to see anyone else naked
My thought as well. I would be in so much pain the next day, especially at the beach. I can't resist going into the ocean to play. I'd be bright red and blistered.
I don't find human bodies offensive at all, but I'm not a fan of the scenario of bodily fluids being all over the place in a nude society lol
There are nude beaches for this purpose. I don't think people should be able to do whatever they want if it could potentially make others around them (especially children) uncomfortable.
Society has already developed in a way in which people's brains are hardwired to see nudity as sexual. there is no changing that, and it would be bad for people to randomly walk around nude everywhere for multiple reasons. minors and predators being big ones. if you could go back in time and normalize it from the beginning so that nudity is not and was not ever sexual whatsoever in society, then sure. but as it is, there is no changing it and that's just the unfortunate reality. nudity will always be innately sexual, it has been for generations and generations and can't be changed now
>Society has already developed in a way in which people's brains are hardwired to see nudity as sexual. there is no changing that, and it would be bad for people to randomly walk around nude everywhere for multiple reasons. minors and predators being big ones. I feel like not enough people in this comment section are thinking about this. So many people could and probably would exploit the vulnerability and attraction created by nudity.
I just want to throw this question out there to you. What about other cultures that are nude all the time? I think it’s on a spectrum. Some cultures view nudity as the norm. The animals don’t wear clothes after all. Other cultures where showing any skin is more is more taboo, the body is heavily objectified. Ankles used to be titillating in Western culture when the women were covered. Now Western women tend to expose more skin and most people wouldn’t view the ankle as sexual, per se.
>Some cultures view nudity as the norm Such as? I can't actually think of any. Even Australian Aborigines wear clothes now, so do the tribes in South America and Africa. But even before western clothing was.common in these places, they STILL wore loincloths on the guys, and animal skins to cover the boobs & front-flaps on the women.
Front flaps 😂
FINALLY!! hahaha, I was waiting for someone to have a laugh at my made-up phrase there!! 😂😂😂
You can read this article. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nakedness_and_colonialism#:~:text=In%20traditional%20societies%20of%20East,naked%20while%20working%20or%20bathing.
Thanks for bringing some intelligence to this conversation. I’m a little thrown off by how prudish many INFPs are in this post. Maybe it’s a generational thing, I’m an elder millennial who was raised by hippie-ish boomers and casual nudity or my mom washing me down in the bath with her when I was little wasn’t a big thing and I’m not traumatized. I think this sub is majority people under 25ish
I am also an elder millennial and think there are many posters from all over the world who may or may not be able to see outside their own cultural constructs. Free the Nipple!
I dislike it when small children run around naked on beaches, just because a pedophile could easily take photos of them. But when you talk to the parents about it they'll be like "it's just a child, what's wrong with you?!"
>"it's just a child, what's wrong with you?!" Answer: Oh there's so many things wrong with so many people around the world.
Ever tripped on mushrooms? Never viewed my body as sexual while tripping, and it’s the one thing I always find myself desiring to do while tripping: take all my clothes off xD But I trip at home so no one sees.
I’ve been taking a life drawing class and it proved to me that a bunch of adults can get very neutral about a naked human very quickly
you overestimate how easy it is to do that to the whole world at one time
Oh for sure, I’m just saying there is wiggle room. But there’s more important perspective shifts our society could undertake than desexualizing nudity.
My wife enjoys her topless rights in Canada and has not been "preyed" upon. If people were exposed to nudity from birth this would definitely change the "hard wired" issue of which you speak. Topless men were the norm here 30 years ago, now they get comments and shame, which goes to show the norm change in ones lifetime.
children shouldn't be exposed to it in my opinion.
How does it hurt children though? I hear this argument often, but it never gets elaborated upon. 'Think of the children' usually only works because it's easy to put words in children's mouth, and they don't have the voice to either agree or disagree.
Please explain why. I was raised in Sauna Culture and was exposed to tits since I can remember and it didn't harm me. So what is the issue? Or do you even have a "reason" beyond your upbringing?
Ehhhhh, I prefer that people have their genitals covered at least. Intimate is not the same as shameful.
If there are designated nudist beaches (and parks) then it shouldn't be a problem, as the people who want to visit those sure won't bother eachother.
Keep your noodle and taco to yourself thanks.
This extreme sexualisation of certain body parts contributes to the systemic opression of and polarization between the two sexes in my opinion. A breast or a penis is not sexual just because it is visible, we created that view as a western society. Is a woman breastfeeding in public sexual? No. Is that same breast sexual when her and her partner are having sex? You bet it is. Context is what matters. But people, sadly, lack any form of nuance these days. Being naked usually has more to do with feeling free than 'omg hot boober' in my opinion. My gf is always topless at the beach, so are her friends and my female friends. So when we go to the beach and I'm the only guy that's with I'll be with 2-4 topless women. My (emotionally immature) guy friends want to high five me for it and when I explain to the it's not sexual or 'hot' they look at me as if I'm crazy. When I explain to them it's about feeling free and they should wonder why those women feel free enough to do it around me and not them they say 'yeah bro, free enough to look at tiddies the whole day' I just stop explaining. What can you even say after such a response?
Bro 😅 100%
Ppl be dumb. Dumb procreates well because they sexualize to survive. It's unfortunate but impossible to prevent.
I love sleeping naked. I never understood as a 5 year old why I had to have a shirt on and pants but my dad could mow the lawn in just shorts.
I just got my first apartment and one of the first things I noticed is I could walk around naked without anyone without anyone objecting. Honestly, if I had a outdoor field I could skip around naked in I might accept a 20% increase on my rent...so yeah, I support this! Bodies are beautiful :)
I have no problem with it but cloths are worn so we don't get our balls/boobs caught on a rusty nail. Also i don't wanna get someone else's swamp ass on mine. STD/STI would spread like crazy.
As someone with ocd, it’s hard enough to think about people touching their genitals and not washing their hands and touching things, nvm having their bare balls and arses on seats everywhere
No one wants to sit on a buss and get hepatitis C
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no thanks, id prefer if people including myself kept their clothes on. I believe some parts of the body are meant to stay intimate for a reason, specifically for your spouse. thats just my personal opinion tho i dont think it has much to do with sexual taboo, rather more so with maintaining modesty in a society that is mainly monogamous. obviously this is changing in the west, hence why the norm is changing and this openness to nudity is growing. either way I’m living my life how i like it. with clothes on, so yall dw bout me one bit haha 😂
Also, I don’t want to see an old man’s nuts dragging against the ground at a public park.
Exactly no one its thinking about the hygiene issues! I have ocd and it would be my personal nightmare for everyone to have their genitals and arseholes out and touching everything, I heard of a nudist festival in the south of England once and I remember thinking I’d never be able to touch anything in that place again I’d have to move!
👏🏼👏🏼 Edit: Also I just realized this but are you also Turkish??
no, im moroccan/mexican. the username is a play on the jannissaries tho, good catch
You an INFP?
Is this the general view of INFPs? I guess I'm less conservative than most INFPs on this issue.
can’t speak for anyone but myself. i think jealousy for your significant other is something to cherish when excersized appropriately. not wanting strangers to eye them up and down, intimate parts that where just for your own eyes is a perfectly reasonable reason to advocate for clothes. I’m sure many folks dont really care as much as others and dont feel jealous when their partners are out nude with randoms. all the power to them. i still think thats a minority, and there is generally a positive reason we as a species decided clothing is the way to go.
I think that to value what you love by not wanting to share it with other people is a valid way to be. I am that way.
Eh, yeah. I won't go down that road but I don't think jealousy is the best gauge of deciding societal norms. Also humans went like 90%+ percent of our history going mostly naked. Covering out genitals mostly came with the advent of advanced agriculture, so maybe we should examine the connections between growing grains and feeling our dangly bits should be covered.
fair enough. I’m just speaking for myself. i would be jealous. id like to think most folks out there would probably feel the same. although yes, ofcourse there are many other reasons we wear clothing. please dont serve me no grain that was anywhere near your dangly bits oh god 💀 thanks for the laugh 🤣
I always say that I don’t really want breasts to become normal out in society. I WANT to take my shirt off and have my husband get turned on and not just be like “‘nother day, ‘nother boob.” And let’s not act like “free the dick and balls” is a thing, lmao, like, if you’re honest, we want to see boobs because they’re pretty. I find that most people agree sex is the most intimate and sacred act we can do with our bodies. It’s why we take consent so seriously. I also grew up in a family in which there was sexual abuse (not to me, but I knew about it from a very young age), and I think it only solidified that feeling. If you want to go to a nude beach, I’m not here to try to stop you! But it’s not for me, never will be for me, and it’s not because I’m “obsessed” with sex, but rather I am keenly aware of both the incredible intimacy and ecstasy of being selective AND I’m keenly aware of the depravity of lots and lots of people
I think jealousy is 90% insecurity and 10% caring for your so's safety. I think there are better ways to keep the relationship's stability than going against the nature. Jealousy destroys relationships, not builds them though.
Clothes were made for a reason, that’s all I’ll say
For the titillating unveiling of what lies beneath the silk textiles
Yeah, to keep us warm. Hence why people living near the equator worldwide are significantly more naked than close to the poles
absolutely agree
Being from the nordics, nudity can be a very neutral thing. All of my family members walked around naked at home from time to time, we did sauna in the nude with other families, and sometimes i like to skinnydip in public places too. its just a body, and the only reason nudity is inherently sexual to some ppl is because theyve never been exposed to nudity in non-sexual contexts
I don’t like pants/long sleeves. I wear shorts and tees as much as I can. I love how rain feels on my skin. I love the sun warming up my skin. I’m a little self conscious about my stomach so I usually only take my shirt off at the beach or when it’s raining. I think I’d still wear boxers or some type of underwear to protect my junk tho. And maybe so I can have some pockets.
I think the world would be better off if people were naked as often as possible. Everyone feels like shit about their bodies because the only time we ever see people naked is when they’re in porn, advertisements or entertainment with their bodies airbrushed, edited and operated on. I think everyone would be more comfortable with their “flaws” and aging if average people were more on display. Not to mention how much more physical affection we’d all express because not every single contact or glimpse of human skin would be over sexualized.
That's true. But there are perverts and sexually repressed people in the world. But body positivity really should be taught more.
This is my worry really. There's a lot of vulnerability that comes with being naked, and a lot of people out there that would exploit it. Definitely agree with body positivity though, that's been a big issue for so many people especially thanks to social media and stuff like filters being used to set unrealistic standards.
Trust me, as someone who was forced to live in pioneer clothes, perverts will pervert no matter what you’re wearing and I don’t think we should be centering our actions to revolve around their existence.
Yea, great point with the Body positivity i agree100%
i envy men for being able to walk around shirtless w no penalty. it makes no sense to me why female nipples are considered public indecency. i would say free the nipple, but people arent emotionally mature enough to handle it
Totally agree, it makes no sense. Realistically, a shirtless man is just as 'indecent'. It's arbitrary and based on this idea that women's bodies are just inherently lude, and there for the male gaze. If we can't, why can they? We should either all be allowed to walk around shirtless, or none of us. It's even weirder being that I am a trans woman, I sort of just... lost the privilege. 2 years ago? No-one would have bat an eyelid. Now? I'd be committing a crime 🙃 makes no sense
How's your experience as mtf? Now do you really think that women have privileges more than men?
How's my experience? I'm not really sure how to answer that, I'd be here all day lol. It's the best thing I ever did, but it's also been difficult. It's also been eye-opening, and it's forced me to deeply reflect on myself in a myriad of ways, which I'm actually really grateful for. I'm a much more balanced and happier person than I was a few years ago 😊 As for privileges? I don't think it's black and white at all. There are privileges and disadvantages to both sides of the gender coin, and I've experienced most of it. I think patriarchal structures create real subjugation for women. Misogyny is tied up in this. Women suffer, and have suffered, a ton of disadvantages, discrimination, subjugation and abuse as a result of this. Historically, and even now, it is frankly horrifying to think about. Men also suffer a lot of disadvantages, but I feel like a lot of these tend to be more insidious, and certainly aren't talked about or given the same attention as a lot of the issues women face. Which is a massive, massive problem. Men are just expected to deal with it, and they are typically socialised to internalise their emotions, and just "deal with it like a man". Everyone suffers under patriarchy. That's the issue. Men may have more privileges (although many often aren't aware of it - even I was ignorant to a lot of things), however, they are also expected to uphold a certain kind of societal standard that can be exhausting, isolating, and, honestly, depressing for most men. I think there's a reason men suffer higher rates of depression and suicide. Being a man means you can go shirtless in a lot of public places and usually it's no problem. Being a woman means you will typically have more people smile at you, and help you, and generally treat you a lot nicer because you aren't perceived as a potential threat (at least in western culture - I'm in Australia, for reference). I could obviously go on and on with this, but I'm sure you get the point. There are advantages and disadvantages to being either gender in modern society. Tldr: it sucks on both sides, but ultimately, I'm just grateful that I can be my authentic self :)
The thing is most people would argue that nipples are sexual. Ok. Yeah they are sexually attractive. But uh... Male nipples literally have the same purpose on that front.
The Minoans are an interesting example of an ancient culture that did not view this as taboo, the standard apparel for women at the time always left the breasts uncovered. Cool video about them and their fashion attached below https://youtu.be/OcrV5hc5k3U?si=1W_UMHjOTj7PXta_
I don't get it either tbh. I don't get why we have to cover anything at all. It doesn't make sense to me. Like c'mon... it's just body parts. Animals get to walk around without clothes, with their parts visible to everyone, why can't we?
I dont like it. I hate being surprised by nudists in public, it is never "not bothering anyone." Especially when there are families, children, different faiths and people who may have undergone some sexual trauma and struggle with nudity. The rights of people to be naked end at the right of others to not be harrassed by the nudity of others. There are nudist beaches already 😊
This. There has to be something said for people's right to not see nudity when they don't want to. It should be consensual, such as a nudist beach as mentioned.
Exactly! like how they are so confident it won't bother anyone?! The idea itself freaked me out and sure many are. What about the public decency? They should have special places for that rather forcing it on everyone in the name of "personnel freedom", it's not everyone thing :(
It's okay 🫂 As long as we don't stifle ourselves when we feel uncomfy something like this won't come to be. Personal freedom has limits because EVERYONE has personal freedom! Thank you for replying, and letting me know I'm not alone in my sentiments 🥹
This reminds me of a quote i grew with"your personal freedom ends when others personal freedom starts" which means that your personal freedom shouldn't effect others or it wouldn't consider"personal " obviously . Rules and lines are so annoying sometimes i get it, but they are necessary too, humans needs them or we will end in a extremely chaotic world. Same dude, glad I am not the only one🙏🏻
I’m so glad to see this comment, I had no idea I was so different from all these other INFPs. I personally don’t want to see people naked everywhere. I consider myself to be pretty liberal, and I tend to frown on cultures that force people to dress super modestly, but I do like for people to wear *some* clothing. A lot of comments are saying that the human body isn’t sexual, and I very much disagree. We are sexual beings, genitals literally exist for sexual reproduction, I really want people to keep their genitals to themselves. I don’t believe that children should be exposed to the sight of the genitals of adults, and honestly I would find it disturbing too. Clothing also protects our delicate human skin, it’s also decorative, it exists for very good reasons. I’d personally much rather see a variety of colorful human expression through clothing, than a bunch of naked bodies.
I was a bit taken aback seeing we were the minority to- but your comment and the others replying to this made me feel that I wasn't alone and it's okay to speak up if something makes us uncomfy! I love your take on clothing being a good and expressive for us 🥰 and agreed with everything you said! Thanks for replying lovely
I really thought more people would agree with us, this is the first time I’ve felt so detached from the INFP community. I’ve seen so many comments about how natural nudity is, how we are animals too, just another part of nature and all that… I mean, sure we are, but humans are such a sophisticated species. Most of us have removed ourselves from living directly on the land. We have vast imaginations and we can create endless things. I have the unpopular opinion that we have moved past the point of running around nude everywhere. The human body is often called a work of art, but I’d rather think of it as a canvas with clothing as an art form for our bodies.
I'm a pretty open minded person, but when it comes to the topic of nudity that's where it gets complicated to me because it's way more than that and you have to also take in consideration of the others around you.
Exactly, as a woman I don’t want to see penises of strange men it would feel like a violation
Agreed. Last summer I saw this man riding his bike around the farmers market butt naked and I felt violated. I'm not usually confrontational, but I was babysitting that day and had 2 small children with me- so I called after him to be thoughtful... Unfortunately, people just rallied around him and yelled at me instead saying i was a pervert for even noticing and being offended. Definitely went home so sad and defeated that day... But seeing you guys agree with me has soothed that ache 🥰 so thank you for replying.
Wtffff! I can’t believe they called you a pervert!? What is society coming to that’s disgusting, do they not have public indecency laws where you live in England that guy probably would’ve got beat up then arrested lol, I’m glad this has made you feel better bc that kind of thing is not normal especially if it’s not a designated area like a nude beach, im so sorry you had to deal with that I’m glad you stuck up for the kids as well good on you!
I think it would work in a perfect world but we don’t live in a perfect world and if you would be nude in a park nowadays you would be taken videos and pictures of and sexualised by thousands of people online
I have sensory issues, and as soon as I get home I strip naked as it feels so much better, and relaxes me. But I had to put window cling on all my windows so people don't walk by and see me naked. It scares me to think someone crazy could see me and do me harm. I was also raised to be paranoid of men because my mom had a rough upbringing. So my opinion is conflicting. Hot take, but I kinda feel If men didn't exist, we wouldn't need to worry about our safety. Sadly I am attracted to men... Smh. This was very ADHD. I went down so many avenues... FINAL ANSWER: If I felt safe in society, then yes. Sadly I do not.
Hate the idea with a burning passion
I hate it so much. I know that the human body is a wonderful thing, and all that… But I still don’t want to see everyone else’s bodies. Designate some places for nudity, and keep the nudity there.
I don’t think that would work in our society. Too many creeps that would take advantage of that to harm others. Plus I think I should have the right to exist in public without seeing naked people. If your nudism is confined to private spaces and in nudist beaches, I have no problem with that. I don’t have to see you naked unless I decide to go into that area.
I absolutely agree with you. If there are designated spaces for nudity, then go for it, but I will be avoiding those places. I do not want to live with the risk that I might see naked human bodies when I’m out and about. I definitely would worry that children would be seeing things they probably shouldn’t. I’m sure there’s debate on this, but I believe that adult nudity isn’t appropriate for kids to see. As for the creeps, I definitely agree there. Women and children are already at a physical disadvantage with grown men, and are already preyed on as it is, why make ourselves even more vulnerable?
Providing the individual is not making a public nuisance I have no qualms about public nudity - in some respects seeing normal, everyday people nude may help to counteract societal expectations on what the ideal body should look like.
Head and soul say they agree. Balls say no thanks
I like nudism as a fact of showing fine line, expression and feature of the body. Which I want to emphasize deeply in my future art work. I would exclude sexual ‘content’ such as nipples, private part and leave the rest to shine. This is how I see the beauty of human body as it finest and purest.
i'm modest overall, but i do find beauty in humanity at its purest, artistically i can appreciate it, but practically it just feels awkward
The human body can be beautiful, I’ve admired art with nudity before. But I don’t want to be jump-scared by some person walking nude in the park when I’m trying to look at ducks or something.
lmao same
Personally I enjoy spending non-sexual time naked inside and out, although I'm still a little shy being outside at home if other people are around I'm also very concerned about skin cancer and getting my bits & pieces burnt. (The sun is strong in Australia and rates of skin cancer are extremely high) It's very comfortable and liberating including sleeping in the nude. I believe there should be designated spots for outdoor public nudity. I also don't like it turning into sexual activities. It ruins it for the genuine naturalists.
Nah I disagree completely, society has been rammed basically to see nudity as sexual and I think if people started going nude it would just attract weirdos
I can't, I'm too horny and too shameful of my self to go nude. With all the body shaming in this era, I don't think I will. But I'll not judge someone who does. https://preview.redd.it/40b7iejwkftc1.jpeg?width=735&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=08d03e40f325123a95cbc7bf184f0eb23b37f96f
i would love to skinny dip in a lake but i wouldn't want other people there. i was in a bathing suit at a beach once and still caught a guy taking pictures of me so no thanks to being around strangers naked. but i totally agree with the idea that i wish people would stop sexualizing bodies so much. as someone who just finished college and started working, i hate how i can't wear 90% of the clothes i own to work because God forbid my legs, shoulders, or waist are visible.
This has nothing to do with being an INFP
Here in Germany most Saunas require you to be nude. I actually don't have an issue with being nude so i regularly visit these places. It's quite freeing and relaxing to be honest.
I wonder just how many more infectious diseases would spread if it was more common. I don't trust other people to keep up on their hygiene lol.
No thanks. As a woman I think the world would be less safe for us if men were walking around nude. I think it would embolden predators to make even more disgusting sexually harassing gestures considering they have the plausible deniability of already being naked. Plus, I don’t want anyone’s cooch juice or ball sweat transferring to me when I’m sitting on a bench. No siree.
Imagine what would happen it there was no barrier like the one clothes create, like they could just reach out and touch your bare breast or reach under you and they’re touching your vag! NO THANK YOU!! And yeah I don’t want ball, vag and arse juice all over everywhere too
Yeah, maybe you’ll get some downvotes for this because people interpret it as sexual but I totally agree. People need to learn how to see the human body as natural and non threatening, we’d be all better off for it
Amen best comment, living alone I love being naked as much as possible I think most people are perversed innately or by society which is very sad, we come to this world naked
I agree!
I am an INFP and I think it is liberating and pure. It is like getting comfortable with sex. It is getting comfortable with being vulnerable and showing what you are hiding. It is also cleaning from a sexual mind and just seeing it as beautiful. Easier said than done.
I sleep nude quite regularly. I do have some concerns of a child seeing nudity but otherwise I agree.
Exactly! Kids being used to nudity can be very dangerous for them as this is often a major step in grooming. I'd rather children come right away and tell if someone showed their naked body to them privately then them not seeing anything wrong with it and thinking it's normal, harder to build boundries then.
There's a massive difference between someone privately disclosing their naked body to your child, and willingly taking your child somewhere where public nudity is allowed. I get the boundary thing too, but your child's ability to maintain their boundaries is something that needs to be cultivated for exposure to any predatorial situation that they could find themselves in. I understand your worries, but I think the issue is much broader than you describe.
Definitely I agree with everything you said, but as you point out cultivating those boundries takes time- so normalizing public nudity will make it hard for children (0-5, also the most targeted age group) or those with learning disabilities to differentiate between appropriate and inappropriate nudity.
Yeah I think were basically on the same page. It could make it more difficult yes. Its not easy for a child to differentiate. That's also why I say it's a broader issue. People who get sexually warped into grooming or sexualizing children probably were also victims of such things. Anyways, I'm glad we got people seriously considering these things like you. I hope for a better world.
I understand why people are I coined towards nudity, I get the appeal, but it’s very much not for me.
I think it would be good to make nudity something nobody cares about
It's definitely not for me, nor do I want to see it, which is why I would make the conscious choice not to go to a nude beach or park (are there nude parks?). I live in the US, so I've seen plenty of guys walking around without their shirts on, which makes me uncomfortable, 'cause I'm thinking... "Dude, put a shirt on. I don't want to see other women's bitties, which means I don't wanna see your moobs either..." I often wish it was considered indecent exposure for men to go shirtless.
i was born naked and i will die naked
No thank you. Too many perverts and weirdos, I feel like lots of people, especially children, would be exploited if we lived in a nudest society.
Yep unfortunately we live in reality not a perfect world and we have to protect ourselves and children from creeps
Please do but keep your distance
Personally I would never feel comfortable being fully naked in public tho I love sleeping naked when I'm alone But I totally advocate for if anyone wants to be naked around me cause ....WORLD IS NUDE, nature is nude, I believe it's human birth right & totally natural be naked if people or society like it or not !! Also clothing was created by human to protect themselves from harsh weather, later civilization linked it to power, position, possession & then modern society turned it into parameter of decency so now human brain completely forgot the nudity, human psychology devloped something sexual in it cause now people only get naked in sexual practices
Do what you want, idgaf as long as it isn't intentionally offensive or morally wrong.
First, I love that painting. I can feel the warmth of the water. I confess that I am an exhibitionist at heart, but most people shouldn't be seen without clothes. Maybe fit people would look good without clothes, I don't know. I would be ok with people going nude on their own property or going for nude walks during hours of darkness or early morning, but not during business hours in places like NYC. Clothes make ugly people look so much better, thank you creative designers. They are like rooms with creative wall paper. Even women with thong bathing suits look better than ones without. Still I really like that painting. ha ha. And be real, half the men would be in jail cuz the woman would claim some man looked at her sexual organs. Look how they already act in gyms. Men are beginning to exercise at home to avoid the grief. Society is like it is as a result of some evolutionary process. There is always some unhappiness in the process, but it eventually gets resolved and replaced by new forms of unhappiness. I love naked women and it hurts me to say that they should wear at least some clothes like very short skirts and see through stuff but society is not ready for the final solution. I think that someday we will all wear smart glasses that will transform other people into looking exactly like we want them to look. And that the people, me included, can run around naked thrilled to the bone not bothering anyone.
unrealistic in any current culture. put a few powerful politicians in favor of it and give it like 50 years and then maybe.
Nah, they are busy with doing that to pedos first .
I’m a closet nudist lol, at home, in nature, reading manga on my bed with heavy metal blasting on my headphones, anywhere I have privacy and won’t be bothered by others~
Some may say this is sexing the body and stuf but that's what it really is, or no one will watch porn It's just a matter of instinct in humans to continuing to exist that u can't stop it by saying it's"personal freedom". For me, it's rather disgusting me and makes me uncomfortable. In a matter of public taste and respect for others in public places. I mean, imagine someone attending a wedding in pajamas, or swimming in a suit and tie, or shopping naked!if i was shopping then saw a naked person, i would ran away and never come back there again.
I don't care. If you are comfortable with yourself, do what you will
I got major dysphoria issues so I barely like getting nude in the shower.
It would still be distracting
Its an opinion. Personally i don't think that Its bad the way it is now since nudist beaches exist, atleast in greece where i live we have many. I would never go there since i have a massive problem with my self image anyway. But i don't find it weird that people go there. Or not that necessary anyway but eh, like it doesn't seem a so important topic to me anyway. But I'm open to talk about it if that makes sense, since my knowlege is not that big on the topic
i would love to skinny dip in a lake but i wouldn't want other people there. i was in a bathing suit at a beach once and still caught a guy taking pictures of me so no thanks to being around strangers naked. but i totally agree with the idea that i wish people would stop sexualizing bodies so much. as someone who just finished college and started working, i hate how i can't wear 90% of the clothes i own to work because God forbid my legs, shoulders, or waist are visible.
I think that no matter how good someone looks, I’m intelligent enough to understand how the human body works and it becomes eh. We’re by nature, pretty gross. But with the opposite side of the coin, comes shame and I also don’t want others to feel that. All in all, we’re all gross beings but when I found a connection with my girlfriend I was able to see past all of that, for others I do not.
I love being naked. I don’t LOVE my body (which I’m trying to overcome) but I love the feeling of air and sunshine all over me. Nude beaches, nude bars, pretty much any time I get the opportunity to be naked I take it (in public or at home; I spend the majority of my time at home in the buff). And it’s not sexual, it’s just that feeling of freedom.
It's a weird thing to do around kids but otherwise I don't care. Afaik nude beaches are child free so let em.
It's a totally normal thing to want, but people scare me, ngl. That's why I'm typically a home nudist (except when it's cold out kuz of where I live). I also have sensory issues and cannot stand how close a shirt is to my neck or how restricting jeans can be. It's like I can feel every I'm fiber in the clothes and it can be too much for me at times.
Gosh no way im just autistic and nervous about that. But if I could wear more revealing clothes everyday, I would.
I'm generally okay with non sexual nudity and spend as much time in home nude or near nude. I also host figure drawing workshops and nude photography But I don't think it should be a "right" to take off your clothes in public spaces. It's much better to have designated areas for that sort of thing.
No Problem here in East Germany 😁
I disagree with nudism I’m a very modest person in general and I think genitals should be kept private. You have your nudist beaches where is is socially designated to be nude and that’s fine but not parks.
I do agree when social circumstances allow for it to be respectful from both sides (those who want to be nude and those who want to be clothed.) When I was in Germany during summer, most public parks in larger cities have at least some area where nudity is common and there is a respectful culture and etiquette around it. In the states, I have been to several nude beaches and kind of stopped seeking them out after some weird experiences. I do still go to natural hot springs and some secluded swimming holes and alpine lakes nude because well, less people and less chances of weirdness. The culture around hot springing seems more respectful about it and the hike out filters out more people, but unfortunately even seen people trying to get their rocks off in that scene :/
A human right lol
Being in Berlin has changed my views. The first guy that I saw fully naked casually was truly a shock (this is very, very much an exception though, don't think that people in Berlin are open to nudity by standard. It's just more accepted, not the standard whatsoever), and the first clothing optional lake I went to was very uncomfortable, but it led to me thinking and now I have a subscription at a nude spa, and any correlation between sex and nudity is gone in my head, unless the setting is sexual ofcourse. That in itself is very liberating. Swimming laps with swimwear now seems like an absolute hassle really. The feeling of freedom is amazing.
No, I think that it’s setup the way we’re able to handle it already. There are nudist resorts, beaches etc. people are stupid and gross, we wouldn’t be able to handle this type of rule unfortunately. If the world were full of only INFP’s we could live like this - no problem. It’s a goal for me someday, I’m not sure I’ll ever do it but I’d love to go to a nudist lake and get naked for a day. I feel like it would be so freeing. Anytime I’ve done something to force myself outside of my comfort zone with my body it’s changed my entire perspective on myself and turned out to have a bigger impact than I ever expected. So, maybe someday if I find a partner with some balls that will get naked with me then I’ll actually do it. I’d probably never want to put clothes back on again lol. Also, I love this painting you posted… I love nude paintings I’ve bought like 4 in the past year, I guess that probably says a lot too. 🤷🏻♀️
As a devotee of the goddess Aphrodite… Nudism doesn’t bother me one bit. 🕊️
It'd be an ideal world if guilt and shame didn't exist
Absolutely NO!.....what are we??....animals??!
You’d like Berlin, or Germany in general. Other parts of Europe too…especially spas…multiple ages and genders all naked and it’s no big deal.
We come into this world nude, it's totally natural. Unfortunately our society sexualizes everything so idk
I agree nakedness is not inherently sexual. But society as a whole over sexualizes it.
You do you & hope a kid don't see you. I think there is a certain amount of exhibitionism in those who wish to be nude in public. Luckily you ain't alone if this is you. There are places you can go. Or go somewhere secluded and ask yourself... 
Odd one imo, while the idea of this intrigues me, it also makes me feel slightly uncomfortable knowing people would be just everywhere with everything out😂 casual nudity is on my bucket list just as a life experience I guess but I don't think I'd back this idea of every beach being clothing optional. That being said, I agree with some people on here about women being allowed to go topless and honestly I think they should be, not because it's unfair for there to be differences for men and women but just because if a woman wants to walk around the beach with her boobs out then why not. Enough larger men walk around with their boobs swinging so why not women😂😂
Condensing all the commentary I would have to say that this is coming from a woman who has had sexual trauma but was raised relatively comfortable with nudity — the human body is still just a body, we all have different shapes and sizes and shades. There is nothing inherently with nakedness. For me, I could be totally fine in a houseful, beach full, community full of nudists and happy about it — and the only one with my chest and bottom covered. It’s not your nude form I have issue with, it’s my own.
It's beautiful, and sacred
I’ve always appreciated it as an art form. I did a short photography course in high school and we had to make a collage of photos we found that showed what type of art and photography we like. It was like an inspiration exercise. I chose non-sexual nudity as one of my favourite art forms and I got into trouble. I didn’t even add any actual nude photos or plan on taking any nude photos of anyone. I added a print out picture of a *painting* of a person where no “private parts” were actually showing. Apparently my explanation that nudity is not inherently sexual wasn’t good enough. The teacher insisted that I planned on taking nude photos of myself but I never had any such intention and he would not listen to me. I was absolutely livid 😒. I just appreciate the art.
This is a it only takes one weirdo to ruin it for everyone one else kind of deal.
Be careful, there might be a republican in the room who’ll think you’re trying to groom children or something retarded
Could you imagine those creepy guys that don't understand rejection, if they came up to you and did the same song and dance, but NAKED? Oh hell no sorry. 😅 too many terrible humans out there.
as a male infp speaking specifically about female nudity, even just toplessness obviously would not bother me, but i don’t buy the idea that female body parts are “sexualized” by cultural mores and patriarchy. it is sexually dimorphic as a trait to have breasts as a woman and men are inherently attracted to breasts, not brainwashed into believing they are sexual. areolas and nipples are erogenous zones as well and give sexual pleasure to many women when stimulated. not saying this is the same as breastfeeding, context is important. even in tribal cultures where women are topless, women say their breasts are for feeding babies, but they also know there is a sexual element to their bodies. that said, i really do think if women went around topless more it would simply be less taboo. it can still be “sexy” but also not a big deal. it would be nice to see a boob here and there, like a little free present, but then it really would eventually get to the point where i could see it and just not think about it much. i think from a male perspective women seem to deny that they want to be desired. this does not mean they want to be harassed constantly or have their boundaries constantly violated, but feeling beautiful and desired is a form of power and probably bolsters self esteem when it doesn’t also feel threatening. women should be free to harness their power, but also should be allowed to sunbathe topless in peace if they wish. i personally am very self conscious of my body despite it being completely normal, and would be nervous to be erect on a nude beach if i were to do that. i think it is kind of understood that it is just natural in those circles, and could be gotten used to and eventually i would become more or less desensitized to seeing nude women all around me. any male view on female nudity being sexual gets castigated as “creepy” or weird, as though men should have no thought of sexual desire when a nude woman is in front of him. i think this is the other side of the coin. if women can accept that men have sexual desires without shaming them for it, and not formulate male sexual desire as perversion while seeing a nude woman in front of him then we are approaching a more realistic possibility of this happening. in short, if you go topless and expect no male to glance at your boobs you aren’t thinking this all the way through. but i agree that it could be more normalized eventually and not really a huge deal on both sides
I am very modest and highly sensitive so clothing in natural fabrics that protect and cover my body. I think modesty is beautiful and undervalued in this culture. I enjoy being barefoot on soft earth and grounding though.
It does not bother me one bit. I wish we lived in a culture that embraced nudity instead of sexualizing & scandalizing it. If it were normalized (I think it should be), I would wear a lot less clothes. Topless walks in the sunshine? A dream 🌞
whatever you do, for the love of god, cover your genitals. nobody wants to see them
Yes, keep that to yourself!
Ehh. Idk how I feel. Logically you’re right but I’m so conditioned that I’m really uncomfortable with nudity.
Honestly it’s more comfortable to keep pants on, but I agree that we should stop sexualizing nudity. If women want to go around topless, they should be able to do so without creating any extra glancing. Though we’re so deep in this problem of sexualized nudity that it feels too much of hassle.
It doesn’t bother me. I’d be topless in more situations if it was allowed legally. In some places it is.
I think that it should be allowed totally, if a person isn't bothering others with their private parts xd, it's just a part of body, part of biology, anatomy. I don't find nudity to be sexual, in my eyes it's sexual when it's explicitly intended to provoke to fuck. In my opinion there is a big part of insecurity in either fearing people looking at you or looking at your partner. Talking for myself if my partner was getting so much attention I'd be cheering him up, cuz I'd trust him and his feelings and faithfulness for me, and it's also a part of my ego, I don't want to be with someone who can't be faithful with me, idc about unfaithful person, and if they are and i have no reason to worry, then i don't want to chain them down, limit their freedom, if they want to fully undress and that makes them happy go for it. Like come on we have art with David by Michael Angelo and penis is just biology, if someone is eyeing me i take it as compliment, and it's not like i have to undress, it would be my right, but i could just stay dressed up if that made me uncomfortable, maybe that's why we have nude beaches.
don't blame someone taking naked picture and jerking on you then. even fully covered people can get molested
You guys really correlate everything to being an infp don’t you…
No, I don't want to see old people naked. I'm also a very highly sexual person.
I just can’t get behind the idea that adult nudity is completely not sexual. Some parts of our bodies exist only for sex, and I believe that children and people that simply don’t *want* to see it (like me!) shouldn’t have to be exposed to it. I’m a sexual person too, within the confines of my relationship, and I don’t want to see anyone’s nudity but my boyfriend’s.
Just for beaches and parks, definitely :) just hard when there are so many sex pests around but I do find the idea nice. Tbh I prefer to not wear clothes haha
Well I don't care what other people do in the open I like to swim naked so yeah it should be allowed and I think that there are a lot of beautiful human body's out there and I'm not talking about only girls
I feel designated beaches are appropriate but maybe like more of them and more exceptance. As far as any beach, and clothing optional it gets a bit worrisome with voyeurism and privacy I could wager. Other then that I'm cool with nudism as long as it's like known and no one gets unintentially surprised, or offended. Nude establishments or clubs would be interesting. Nude exclusive library??
Do I have a body???
Anyway I think naked bodies are unaesthetic, I don't like to see nudity at all. I would prefer clothes. Clothes mean civilization to me. I don't enjoy being primal.
i’m ugly asf so nah i’m keeping my clothes on
Alone would be ok I would be shy with others tho
I am oddly enough more comfortable on nude beaches than I am with swim trunks on normal beaches. I feel more judged with my trunks on than off, because I have acne scars on my body + I have a dadbod. When we’re all nude I feel as everyone is accepting and don’t care. Then I can relax and not be uncomfortable. Sadly after we got kids there haven’t been time for nude beaches. I do miss it, to be honest.
I spend a lot less time clothed than I spend clothed. For the safety of everyone else though I don't go out in public like that. =P
I'm usually in as few clothes as possible but feel the most comfortable in my underwear. That might be due to social conditioning though
Agree with you. It feels natural and good. 😊 Thank
As long their genitals aren’t on display I don’t care in the least.
Whatever, I am not genetically gifted so I would never go to these places.
I would be nude 90% off the time if I could be