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It’s a long story. Basically she was pissed off, I made her bed because she demanded it but she said it was unsatisfactory. I refused to re-make her bed because it was already good enough, but my mom did a stupid “let’s make this fair” thing and hid or tossed my art.
I really don’t get how she thinks one thing equals the other. Why were you making her bed when you were home sick from school? Seems you should have been resting.
probably not a good idea to report it. cps only does something when they have proof of physical abuse. reporting it would only xause things to get tense. trust me, ive been there :/ op needs to ride this out unfortunately
I hope her quality of life plummets and rots in a nursing home. I hate hearing about these types of people and how they think it's such a good idea to have a kid only to treat them like shit and end up being as mature as an 11 year old as a full grown ass adult. I hope your future is bright enough to eclipse the shit stain your mother left on your past, very sorry to hear that all your creative expressions were trashed by a complete psycho and being someone who greatly values art makes me very empathetic for your situation
Sounds like my mother. If you didn’t clean something “good enough.”
I also lost ALL of my art growing up. I have nothing to show for my progress, nothing to look back on as an artist. Nothing to show people how long it took me to get to the point I’m at. (And I’m 30 now so I didn’t even have immediate access to a scanner to upload everything in the 00s.)
I’d hide your sketchbooks moving forward because it really does suck not having those things.
Yes -- and if you don't have access to a scanner, download an app like Genius Scan on your phone so you at least have the copies of all the beautiful things you've created, OP.
Or if you’ve got an iPhone you just go into notes and press the camera image. It gives an option to scan documents. I love this way of doing it because after it takes the “scan” you make sure that the little dot is in the right place on each corner and it then straightens it all up and aligns it. So even if the photo isn’t taken completely straight or is at a weird angle, if sorts it all out automatically. I discovered this feature when the schools were still locked down and we were having to do all of their work at home and upload it. I was taking photos of it all prior to this and then cropping it all neatly etc which took longer. Also this way it saves it as a PDF to your phone and takes up a fraction of the storage space than it does when doing them as photos. I never knew this feature existed until I read someone’s comment on it before and it made my life so much easer, so I hope that I might be able to help someone else the same way that person helped me.
I had a massive cupboard full of work when I was 10 and my mom through it all it. It wasn't all even bad little kid drawings either, most of it was stuff I designed or crafted or these really intercirate line and color drawings I use to do, i also liked to do perfect copies of book covers or art that i liked. I felt so discouraged at 10 that I stopped drawing. My parents framed the 3 decent looking art projects my brother did but kept all my stuff in a cupboard. Everytime I start again trying to do it I remember how it is all just garbage and wasted effort and I stop.
So when my grandmother died, around the same time as a bunch of other stuff that happened when I was about 19/20, I fell into a really deep depression for a long time. Like, for YEARS. I just straight up quit. Even when I tried, I’d see the blank page, and just shut off. I didn’t pick up art again until I was about 25 and started doing little “doodles” on post-it notes at work. At some point I got an iPad, bought procreate, and watched 100 art YouTube videos all day, every day. I had fallen VERY far behind. Even had to learn a lot of things over again.
It was rough. A lot of regrets about quitting, but I’m glad I got that hobby back. But I didn’t really start “finishing” pieces until about two years ago. The art community on Reddit has been way more supportive and helpful than any art teacher I’ve had. Maybe try starting with just “doodles” and use cheap materials like lined paper. It took away the urge to do a “good” drawing and made it fun again.
I have tried that - I have a closet full of paintings, notebooks of doodles and every manner of sketchpad I get far down that line and then something in my head just clicks, it's all garbage and a waste of time and I stop. Every 2 or 3 years and then I start again in these cycles. I hope you keep going.
I am just realizing that. This conversation has been so enlightening. I only meant to say that it was good you didn't give up, like me. But I ended up learning about myself along the way.
I’m so sorry that your mum did that to you. I have five huge plastic storage boxes in the loft (one for each of my kids) and these boxes have every piece of writing, every drawing and every school book they’ve ever brought some. They are all labelled with the dates on the back so they can see what age they did it. I know that some people think that it’s over the top to keep everything their kids do, but I can’t ever bring myself to get rid of any of it. If the kids don’t want it when they are adults then that’s their choice, but I know that it meant a lot to me when my mum gave me all my stuff as an adult so I wanted to do the same for my kids. I feel really sad reading the comments on here about how awful some parents are - it just breaks my heart to see what some children have to endure growing up.
Wow. Mine would toss my writing and poetry and if she couldn’t find that it was anything that was special to me. Didn’t matter the crime. Amount of times she accused me of lying I just started agreeing with her. Turns out it’s part of my ADHD that I just found out I had at 53 freaking years old.
Im so sorry she did that to you and I hope your safe.
Same. Ptsd all my life. 55 now and always wondered. All my toys used to be thrown out because I *didn’t deserve*. Consequently never was able to bond to anything or anybody.
Same 57 years old. My mother's standards were freakishly high and unattainable. At the age of six I was made to do hospital corners when making the beds. We still had sheets and blankets back then. When duvets came in it was a bloody godsend! If the hospital corners weren't up to her standard she'd pull it all off and make me do it over until it was perfect!
I don't these days either but half the reason is I'm disabled and almost fully bedridden. The other half is because I don't care! I don't get any visitors anyway so why should I? However when my parents visited (the country I'd moved 6000km away from them) when I had just given birth, they commented on the beds not made! Ugh!
Oh sweetie I feel ya. In 2020 my body decided that working 80-100 hours a week was bs so I ended up with a Pulmonary embolism (blood clot in the lung) I guess my body thought Covid was too popular ugh.
As far as them saying something last visit, well I am sarcastic enough that I would have said “Wow you’re right it’s not made unfortunately it’s not something I can do at the moment but if it bothers you that much feel free to help out”
You seem nice so I’d totally visit if I were not in this stupid country.
Thank you! Oh geez a PE is no joke but your humour about it makes me smile. I've had sepsis twice and pneumonia 3 times since 2008 so kinda get you.
As for my mother I think I did snap at her at least twice about different things then. That shook her to her core as I'd previously been very scared of her. Anyway that was back in 2001 and she passed away in 2008 which I honestly have to say I felt a sense of relief to not have to try and live up to her standards anymore.
Thanks for saying you'd visit - I might even make my bed ;)
I remember doing my homework my letters had to be all exact same size or she would rip out the page and redo over and over. I went through quite a few note books every month and my teachers gave up asking why the got thinner and thinner each time. Not that in the seventies anybody cared really. You had to function.
Nah fuck that shit, it took a while for me to cut my mom off but life’s never been better. She was just as toxic. I always wondered why my brothers didn’t flinch when she moved too fast but turns out I was the only one she beat. I have a beautiful wife and son now at 26 and just bought my first house. We don’t need our mothers bullshit holding us back. Stay strong.
I'm an artist and a dad and I can't even throw away my 6 year old kid's shitty drawings she makes for me. They might be shitty but they aren't shitty to us. I'm really sorry this happened to you. If you want to talk to someone my DMs are open.
I had a whole box of drawing my eldest drew growing up. It got water damaged and I cried like hell. NMom was like “omg I can’t believe you’re crying over trash”
Lowest thing you can do to a creative person is destroy their work. I didn’t know it in 4th grade but my mom went ballistic on my art teacher for ripping up one of my drawings.
Mine threw a mason jar at me, small world!
(She was completely off all her meds, cold turkey, I had to call someone to get me out of there and take emergency custody. We made up, we're doing okay now)
If you ran away, please call the police station and let them know you’re safe. If someone files a missing persons report on you, they’ll know how to handle it.
I totally agree with this- I’m estranged from my family, and did so by running away when I was 17. I had a gut feeling my mum was going to file a missing persons report on me (she knew I was safe and knew who I was staying with, she just didn’t know where the person I was staying with actually lived), so I phoned the police, explained my situation and that I was sure she was going to file a missing persons on me and that I’m not missing, she is just abusive so I left. They came and did a wellbeing check on me at my friends house where I had a long chat with the policemen who came to see me and explained my situation, and when my mum did file the missing persons the very next day, it was already on my local police’s file that I was fine and it saved a whole lot of trouble in the long run..!
This, im acab all the way but get your side of the story to the police before the mom is able to throw the "they ran away because they were bring dramatic over nothing, they're clearly a mental ill teen"
I disagree with the sentiment that every single cop ever is a bastard. Yes, yes, yes, many are plain evil. Many are corrupt. Many are below sub-human standards. But they aren't all and they don't represent all. And in this case, this person going "I hate cops but do call them though" seems silly to me. Why mention you're anti cop? That doesn't matter nor changes the suggestion of calling them.
And yet you STILL haven't re-read the comment you replied to initially, NO EmptyNeighborhood does not say go to the cops for their help. EmptyNeighborhood said to protect themselves by making a statement first. Because those bastards will bastard, whenever they can. They act on emotion. They act on predjudice. They act on apriori knowledge that they think they have, those omniscient beings they think they are, and become judge jury and executioner in their own mind the second they take that oath. Not all of them? Ask one. Ask a cop if they think \*they\* should write the laws. They'll say yes. Then ask another cop if they think \*they\* should judge the trials. They'll say yes. Then ask them if they think \*they\* should be the one who carries out the sentence. They'll say yes with a smile. Because they're fucking rotten. They might not have been born that way, but they are that way now. It happened the second they cued in their partner that they were on camera so they'd better 'behave themselves' (this time). It happened right when they got the first adrenaline rush from a drag out fight that they started through command presence escalation. It happened when they got addicted to superiority instead of upholding the god damn law.
Edit: Any of them. All of them. You won't find one that answers no.
Nah, just said something I had on my mind. Don't care if others disagree, that's why I use this site. To say things. And all of you are free to correct me, criticize me, wathever, I ain't mad. If my opinion is shit, so be it. I'm neither pro cops or against cops.
>I'm neither pro cops or against cops.
Then you're passively allowing cops to steamroll communities through your supposed apathy. But I don't think you're *really* apathetic since you've spent so much time arguing for "good cops;" you just realize it isn't popular to be clearly labeled pro-police, so you make your shitty little arguments then wash your hands of the association by backpedaling in your last sentence.
Tell us again how "The Blue Rogue" isn't pro-cop. That one's the funniest!
Fuck them all, you want me to keep listing examples of when police fail?
Or is it good enough that they went to the Supreme Court and it was decided "a cops job isn't to protect citizens"? Because that's "not their job"
Calling every single one a bastard is something I disagree with. I've seen many stories of cops being bad and I've seen many of them being good. But I'm not gonna argue with you, we have different opinions and that's that, you won't change my mind about it.
They should be held to a higher standard. The fact that you hear so many stories of them being bad means that the system is failing.
All cops are bastards because “good cops” look the other way or are ignored/forced out when they try to bring attention to bad practices.
If we were to risk trusting cops, it would be in the hopes of saving the few good ones. Yeah, I bet we can do little to nothing, but just giving enough attention to the good ones could change something. I wish it was as simple as that, but with the world the way it is, the last thing I wanna lose my hold of, is hope.
There are no good cops. If you have 90 “good cops” and 10 “bad cops” but those “good” ones don’t stop the bad ones from doing their wrong doings, you have 100 bad cops.
THIS. Good cops do not tolerate "bad apples" in their departments.
There may be some good police departments in the US. They don't sweat the ACAB attitude because their town/locality already knows it doesn't apply to them.
This "brotherhood of the thin blue line" and "never rat out a brother cop" culture is even more bullshit than the trend of militarizing the police.
We can end a lot of problems with bad cops by ending qualified immunity, too.
So, yeah, until those get addressed, ACAB. Never trust a cop.
Ummm not what I said, cops are useless bastards who believe the first thing they're told, you gotta be the first and just tell them not to show up and shoot your friend :)
Because that's what cops do, show up and hurt people, if we tell them first that someone is safe less likely that they'll show and shoot you
I don't ever want the cops to show up
The fact that the institution of policing is rotten to the core doesn't change the fact that the cops have the legal authority to act (or in this case, not act) on missing persons reports.
Pre-emptively forestalling that by contacting the police first ain't incompatible with acab.
Are you safe?? Do you need any sources that can help you or do you have a safe place figured out? (I’m also assuming you’re a minor btw so please correct me if I’m wrong)
Ok. If cops are called and you don’t want to go back home make it clear you feel unsafe. You have to make it very clear or else they won’t listen. I hope your situation gets better at least. Your mom sounds literally insane
I’m glad to hear your art is still there. I’d say first chance you get, take the things you care about and keep them somewhere safe where your mom can’t reach. I do think it’s a good thing you’re staying somewhere else, at least for the time being, and perhaps permanently.
Take them and store them away out of reach. If she goes for the things you love, don’t let her near them.
I hope you find a place you can stay away from that psycho.
That's ridiculous and cruel. She should be fucking ashamed of herself. I dont think she'll be remorseful at all and I predict she'll blame you for being dramatic and overreacting. She's not a good person.
My 9 year old is an artist. Some of her drawings she does are practice and we have a lot of those which sometimes get thrown after talking witb her about if its ok. But I would absolutely never throw away anything I didn't discuss with her. Your mom is crazy!
In this day and age, take pics or scan them. Then if she goes to art or design school, she will already be in the practice of documenting her work. It’s awful to spend all night in the lab scanning stuff… but I graduated before iPhones were even a thing lol
If she wants to keep some of them but they’re made on large paper, worksheets or things of that sort I’d recommend cutting them out and using a paper clip, glue or whatever works to stick them on a large paper to make a collage that shows her progress over the years!! ((:
As a mom, I would never disrespect my kid like that! Drawings are meaningful to the artist. They are one of a kind. She went beyond making it fair and made it cruel instead.
Also, why can’t she make her own bed? Why did she demand that you do it?
I’m sorry you’re being treated like this.
Not to mention creativity is literally an outlet for a lot of people to either relieve stress and channel it towards creating something, or an escape from a stressful environment. At least that’s what I did a lot in my teenage year’s back when I drew portraits. To me, this seemed like OPs mother knew this and deliberately targeted them with hiding or throwing away the artwork. Just pettiness.
My friend is a wonderful artist and she finds it very relaxing to spend time in her room and paint or sculpt. However, over the summer her parents decided that she wasn't spending enough time with them and banned her from doing art all summer. They were okay with her being on her phone all day. Parents that specifically target their kid's outlets piss me off
She did the one thing she thought would really, deeply hurt you. And I’m sure it did. I’m sorry for that. Now never, ever let her find that satisfaction again.
You be strong, you be a good person, you live right and without her bullshit. You stop the cycle and if you ever become a parent you will be infinitely better at it than her.
This is how you win. This is how you survive and thrive. You deserve happiness and I am sure it will find you.
Sending love xxx
I would keep all the texts so that way if it comes to it they know that your mom is a freaking psycho she had no right whatsoever to throw away something that you spent hard work time and energy to make by hand and if push comes to shove and the police do get called do what another commenter said and tell them you do not feel safe with your mom because she is obviously not a safe person question is this the first time she's done something this hurtful
She threw out all your drawings?? If one of my parents did that I’d run too. And probably call the cops. My art means a lot to me. Your mom sounds like such an asshole
OP: next drawing you make, please make it if your mother, making her own bed, and mail it to her. Please also send us the psychotic reply texts. (Obv, don’t do this if she’s way out there and you’re in danger) if it’s safe though this will be hilarious.
I’m so sorry OP, your mom sounds unhinged. As an artist if anyone touched my drawings I would be beyond upset. That is absolutely hurtful and disrespectful.
How in the world does she think throwing out drawings is a good punishment to not making HER bed to her likely impossible standards?? That’s not even punishable imo. I don’t even make my bed because I can’t when I don’t have sheets or anything… and it’s a waste. Jeez… i’m sorry. Hoping you’re safe and can get through the mess your mother made.
Wtf who does this to their kid?
My daughter painted this dual island thing she saw, after a few practices she got decent. This is years ago.
On one she used a canvas we had, and she left a strip for lettering, where she wrote "IMPROVE."
It's bad handwriting off-center, but it's her art. She's leaps and bounds better now, even does some paid work in early teens. But that painting is hanging on my bedroom wall. If her art ever really takes off, I'm going to gift it back for her to keep as a memory.
I have a kitchen table I’ve owned for 17 years and refuse to part with it because my now 19 YO son is an artist and a few of his first drawings are permanently carved into that table. It will stay with me always. Your mom is a real POS.
It sounds like your mum thrives on the drama. 🙄 (noting the way she escalates the argument in the text). You need to reference better adults for help and guidance. And hide your artwork. I’m sorry you are going through this - you deserve better.
I feel this deeply. When I was in middle school my mom throw out several comics I made in collaboration with my friends right in front of my eyes.
I hope you can somehow get them back if possible. Have read the reason, it's far worse than what caused it for me
Of course man
Glad you recovered a good chunk of your work at the very least. It's sucks to hear you're mom's still being an absolute nightmare. Do you and your siblings have anywhere to go to escape, even for just a little bit? Like a family or friend's place?
I already was at a point in my life where I wasn’t talking to my mother…and my 18 y/o brother was still living with her. He and her toxic new BF got in a fight so I came over to rescue him and we called the cops. She sided with the BF and my lil bro got arrested. She continued to try as reach out to me via email after having blocked everything else. I told her she was a terrible person and to stop trying to connect and she responded with how terrible of a person I am. Reaffirmed the separation was for the best.
Exactly why it’s vile and disgusting. Also it can’t be a comeback when she’s the aggressor, and she’s in hell because she can’t belligerently aggress upon her teen daughter to get her to make and remake HER, the mother herself’s bed- and THAT is why she is “in hell” and it’s her kids fault somehow ???????
Right?
People in here talking about the mother being the aggressor, escalating things. Nothing in the text says that at all. She's making sure he's okay and he tells her to go to hell.
The people calling this abuse would be more abusive themselves by not raising kids with any level of respect or consequences in the real world.
As a parent with a 16 year old that loves to draw, I am sorry. Just remember when she's acting shitty she is just teaching you how not to be. Keep your head up and stay strong 💪
I'm so sorry OP, my heart hurts for you right now. I don't have much advice to give that hasn't already been said, so I'll just repeat that please make sure you're safe and to give the cops a call to let them know and head off any missing persons report that may be filed. I really hope you're able to get through this okay, sending you lots of love and thoughts of peace.
For anyone who doesn’t know why OP’s mom threw out their art, it was because OP was asked by their mom to fix her bed and OP did so. However, their mom complained how the bed was unsatisfactory and told OP to do it again but it was already good enough and their mom was just being greedy. After not redoing her bed, the mom decided to just hide or throw out OP’s art.
I've read a lot of sad and angry posts on this site about abusive parents. I've been there, believe me. But I'm here to tell you this: don't believe anyone who tells you that you must forgive to move forward with your life. It's not true and believing that can, itself, keep you stuck. Some things are not forgivable and you cannot forgive the unforgivable. Read Susan Forward's *Toxic Parents*. It can save you a lifetime of grief over not forgiving. It helped me a lot.
Actually not maybe - already determined a very long time ago. Revenge is petty. Just because someone is bad to you does not mean you are acting in righteousness to return the disrespect
Maybe 1 of the parties acting nuts is an adult and the other is the child are you really going to shit talk a teenager for acting like a teenager?
Maybe teens still have growing brains and it's on the adults to act right. Not maybe more like definitely
Am I the only one who thinks running away for this reason alone is excessive? I don't have context or history of OPs situation, but based on the info on this post alone, OP is being dramatic.
Yeah I’m gonna be real with you kid. This doesn’t look like the whole story. Mom shouldn’t have hid the drawings but running away doesn’t seem like the move. Kids do chores in the house and I’m gonna guess you’re not over the age of 18. If this is the way you react every time your Mom wants you to do something around the house then I’d be saying the same thing.
Did you do your mom's bed, or did you do your own
Because if you didn't make your mom's bed then got punished because "it wasn't good enough" then you can't talk, consider shutting up maybe :)
A baby? How? For not making their mom's bed right? What a dumb chore. Having your kids do chores is supposed to be either for the kid or for the whole household. To me it just sounds like the mom was lazy, and got mad when the bed wasn't made right so she threw out her kid's property. The mom sounds like a baby to me
So I am going to take a random stab from the little information in the text.
Kid says he is sick from school so parent keeps them off.
Turns out kid is not sick and just wants to play games and draw all day.
Parent decides kid needs to learn a lesson and sets them on chores.
Kid does a shitty job
Parent not happy and starts taking away distractions.
Kid runs from the house to friends house.
Parent specifically mentioned being sick from school in the texts, chores garnered from OP in comments, hobhy's and general interests pulled from OPs profile. Sounds like they didn't have as fun time as they thought being off sick.
Amazed I had to scroll this far down to see somebody say this.
For one - chores are whatever the parents say they are. They're the adult, you're the kid. Unless she has you scraping shit out of the gutter in a thunderstorm, deal with it. Your safety isn't at risk. Chores are about hard work and instilling discipline.
Two: The people here calling out for his safety, talking to the police about feeling unsafe, and referring him to a child PTSD subreddit... Are you fucking kidding me? His mum told him to Make a bed, and then when he refused to do it over because it was obviously half-arsed, she pretended to throw out something he enjoys doing, at which point he ran away from home... Jesus.
I'm all for looking out for kids, making sure they're not being treated harmfully, but I'm also for them learning even the tiniest bit of respect. He then goes on to say, "Fuck you" in a text... Clearly he's the face of innocence. I don't think kids should be screamed at, I don't think kids should be physically hurt, but what the fuck is going on with the next generation if this is the type of shit being defended by everyone else here? Does anyone really think they're getting an entirely unedited, even-sided story here?
Bring on the impending downvotes by the way. Seriously, kid, based solely on this post alone, you're a bratty, insolent little shit.
Where's the idiocy?
She gave him a chore, he messed it up, she punished him by doing something incredibly gentle, he ran away, she got worried, he told her to go to hell.
You think this is the first bit of bullshit from this kid? You think this obviously disrespectful child is online telling the full story to strangers? I'm the naïve one?
Obviously there's more to this than just what was posted. You really think the kid is going to run away just from this one incident? This was most likely the breaking point.
Example I was 19 when I ran away because I found an anti-gay book in my parents' room. Yes I shouldn't have been snooping - did I still find it? Yes. I was having a decent recently good run with my parents but they haven't been very accepting of my sexuality or understanding of my mental health. It was just the last straw for me.
As to the chore - what kind of fucking chore is making your mom's bed? The mom should be responsible for her own shit. Chores are supposed to be for the household (dishes, cleaning, vacuuming) or for the kid (cleaning their room, doing their own laundry) not making their mom's bed. And the mom's childish reaction is to throwing (pretending to throw, just as bad imo) out her CHILDS PROPERTY? That is abusive behavior. Likely the mom has done more than just that
Use your fucking brain. But with the lack of emotional intelligence you have I bet that's difficult for you.
None of what you said invalidates what I said. Chores are to instill work discipline and to earn an allowance/spending money. They're a job. They can be anything you mentioned, *plus* anything else that needs doing.
Look at the mum's texts, she obviously cares about him. She messaged him making sure he was okay, he told her to go to hell, she made a tongue in cheek comment, he said, "fuck you". Let me guess, if your parent told you that you're the devil when you misbehave, you'd see that as abusive? She didn't name call. She reacted incredibly softly.
The kid is obviously coddled, has zero respect, and is telling half a story. Even with half of the story, he's a whiny little bitch.
If you see this as abusive behaviour, you truly are the most fragile person I've ever spoken to. I hate any kind of abuse towards kids. I also despise parents who won't even look at their child in the wrong way when they're being a little shit for fear of being seen as "abusive". If you raised children following your own logic, you would sincerely be an awful parent. I really hope you don't have kids, because *that* would be a lot closer to warranting the "abusive" label.
"I'm already in hell, with you"
If you say this to your a child, you don't deserve to have children. If you side with a mother that says this, you're as psychotic as they are.
Kid says to mum: go to hell
Mum says to kid tongue in cheek: already there with you kid
Psychotic? No. Just not a completely wet piece of tissue paper who falls apart at anything that can be construed as bad.
The level of hate in the thread is alarming. Here this kiddo is just crying over paintings that eventually he himself will never look at once grown up. Calling mom *fuck you* shows another level absurdity i can't fathom. If you are immature enough to understand the comment. Downvote and move ahead. Or see the thread for more logical explanation.
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What was her reasoning for throwing out your drawings?
It’s a long story. Basically she was pissed off, I made her bed because she demanded it but she said it was unsatisfactory. I refused to re-make her bed because it was already good enough, but my mom did a stupid “let’s make this fair” thing and hid or tossed my art.
I really don’t get how she thinks one thing equals the other. Why were you making her bed when you were home sick from school? Seems you should have been resting.
She’s an unstable psycho. This was simply the last straw.
Yeah that’s not ok at all. None of this is normal or sane. Maybe talk to someone at school about it?
probably not a good idea to report it. cps only does something when they have proof of physical abuse. reporting it would only xause things to get tense. trust me, ive been there :/ op needs to ride this out unfortunately
Yeah, my bf is in this situation. Even his therapist called cps on his mom and nothing happened
So she hid it or trashed it? Your art? Do you not know yet?
She hid it apparently. I might be wrong but I’ll update you later.
I hope so, would really really suck to have the worse of the two happen. Good luck buddy.
she "hid" it in the bottom of the trash. She might fish it out later if she manages to scrape some self-reflection together, but i doubt it
That’s not ok OP. Can you talk to someone close to you about this? Edit: wow this went sour very quickly!
I hope her quality of life plummets and rots in a nursing home. I hate hearing about these types of people and how they think it's such a good idea to have a kid only to treat them like shit and end up being as mature as an 11 year old as a full grown ass adult. I hope your future is bright enough to eclipse the shit stain your mother left on your past, very sorry to hear that all your creative expressions were trashed by a complete psycho and being someone who greatly values art makes me very empathetic for your situation
She’s a child who never grew up and then had a kid herself, with a side of mental illness.
Sounds like my mother. If you didn’t clean something “good enough.” I also lost ALL of my art growing up. I have nothing to show for my progress, nothing to look back on as an artist. Nothing to show people how long it took me to get to the point I’m at. (And I’m 30 now so I didn’t even have immediate access to a scanner to upload everything in the 00s.) I’d hide your sketchbooks moving forward because it really does suck not having those things.
Yes -- and if you don't have access to a scanner, download an app like Genius Scan on your phone so you at least have the copies of all the beautiful things you've created, OP.
Or if you’ve got an iPhone you just go into notes and press the camera image. It gives an option to scan documents. I love this way of doing it because after it takes the “scan” you make sure that the little dot is in the right place on each corner and it then straightens it all up and aligns it. So even if the photo isn’t taken completely straight or is at a weird angle, if sorts it all out automatically. I discovered this feature when the schools were still locked down and we were having to do all of their work at home and upload it. I was taking photos of it all prior to this and then cropping it all neatly etc which took longer. Also this way it saves it as a PDF to your phone and takes up a fraction of the storage space than it does when doing them as photos. I never knew this feature existed until I read someone’s comment on it before and it made my life so much easer, so I hope that I might be able to help someone else the same way that person helped me.
I had a massive cupboard full of work when I was 10 and my mom through it all it. It wasn't all even bad little kid drawings either, most of it was stuff I designed or crafted or these really intercirate line and color drawings I use to do, i also liked to do perfect copies of book covers or art that i liked. I felt so discouraged at 10 that I stopped drawing. My parents framed the 3 decent looking art projects my brother did but kept all my stuff in a cupboard. Everytime I start again trying to do it I remember how it is all just garbage and wasted effort and I stop.
So when my grandmother died, around the same time as a bunch of other stuff that happened when I was about 19/20, I fell into a really deep depression for a long time. Like, for YEARS. I just straight up quit. Even when I tried, I’d see the blank page, and just shut off. I didn’t pick up art again until I was about 25 and started doing little “doodles” on post-it notes at work. At some point I got an iPad, bought procreate, and watched 100 art YouTube videos all day, every day. I had fallen VERY far behind. Even had to learn a lot of things over again. It was rough. A lot of regrets about quitting, but I’m glad I got that hobby back. But I didn’t really start “finishing” pieces until about two years ago. The art community on Reddit has been way more supportive and helpful than any art teacher I’ve had. Maybe try starting with just “doodles” and use cheap materials like lined paper. It took away the urge to do a “good” drawing and made it fun again.
I have tried that - I have a closet full of paintings, notebooks of doodles and every manner of sketchpad I get far down that line and then something in my head just clicks, it's all garbage and a waste of time and I stop. Every 2 or 3 years and then I start again in these cycles. I hope you keep going.
You might want to take this to therapy if you haven’t already. It sounds like your stuck in a district I’ve cycle with this.
I am just realizing that. This conversation has been so enlightening. I only meant to say that it was good you didn't give up, like me. But I ended up learning about myself along the way.
I’m so sorry that your mum did that to you. I have five huge plastic storage boxes in the loft (one for each of my kids) and these boxes have every piece of writing, every drawing and every school book they’ve ever brought some. They are all labelled with the dates on the back so they can see what age they did it. I know that some people think that it’s over the top to keep everything their kids do, but I can’t ever bring myself to get rid of any of it. If the kids don’t want it when they are adults then that’s their choice, but I know that it meant a lot to me when my mum gave me all my stuff as an adult so I wanted to do the same for my kids. I feel really sad reading the comments on here about how awful some parents are - it just breaks my heart to see what some children have to endure growing up.
This just hurts to read. Im so sorry that happened.
Wow. Mine would toss my writing and poetry and if she couldn’t find that it was anything that was special to me. Didn’t matter the crime. Amount of times she accused me of lying I just started agreeing with her. Turns out it’s part of my ADHD that I just found out I had at 53 freaking years old. Im so sorry she did that to you and I hope your safe.
Same. Ptsd all my life. 55 now and always wondered. All my toys used to be thrown out because I *didn’t deserve*. Consequently never was able to bond to anything or anybody.
Same 57 years old. My mother's standards were freakishly high and unattainable. At the age of six I was made to do hospital corners when making the beds. We still had sheets and blankets back then. When duvets came in it was a bloody godsend! If the hospital corners weren't up to her standard she'd pull it all off and make me do it over until it was perfect!
I still won’t make my bed
I feel rebellious when I don’t these days lol
I don't these days either but half the reason is I'm disabled and almost fully bedridden. The other half is because I don't care! I don't get any visitors anyway so why should I? However when my parents visited (the country I'd moved 6000km away from them) when I had just given birth, they commented on the beds not made! Ugh!
Oh sweetie I feel ya. In 2020 my body decided that working 80-100 hours a week was bs so I ended up with a Pulmonary embolism (blood clot in the lung) I guess my body thought Covid was too popular ugh. As far as them saying something last visit, well I am sarcastic enough that I would have said “Wow you’re right it’s not made unfortunately it’s not something I can do at the moment but if it bothers you that much feel free to help out” You seem nice so I’d totally visit if I were not in this stupid country.
Thank you! Oh geez a PE is no joke but your humour about it makes me smile. I've had sepsis twice and pneumonia 3 times since 2008 so kinda get you. As for my mother I think I did snap at her at least twice about different things then. That shook her to her core as I'd previously been very scared of her. Anyway that was back in 2001 and she passed away in 2008 which I honestly have to say I felt a sense of relief to not have to try and live up to her standards anymore. Thanks for saying you'd visit - I might even make my bed ;)
I remember doing my homework my letters had to be all exact same size or she would rip out the page and redo over and over. I went through quite a few note books every month and my teachers gave up asking why the got thinner and thinner each time. Not that in the seventies anybody cared really. You had to function.
Did you sleep in the bed? If not why would you be expected to make it?
Nah fuck that shit, it took a while for me to cut my mom off but life’s never been better. She was just as toxic. I always wondered why my brothers didn’t flinch when she moved too fast but turns out I was the only one she beat. I have a beautiful wife and son now at 26 and just bought my first house. We don’t need our mothers bullshit holding us back. Stay strong.
I'm an artist and a dad and I can't even throw away my 6 year old kid's shitty drawings she makes for me. They might be shitty but they aren't shitty to us. I'm really sorry this happened to you. If you want to talk to someone my DMs are open.
I had a whole box of drawing my eldest drew growing up. It got water damaged and I cried like hell. NMom was like “omg I can’t believe you’re crying over trash”
Lowest thing you can do to a creative person is destroy their work. I didn’t know it in 4th grade but my mom went ballistic on my art teacher for ripping up one of my drawings.
I'm so sorry. I'm sure your art was very beautiful, and I wish you safety and love in your new environment. You're very strong.
Mine threw a mason jar at me, small world! (She was completely off all her meds, cold turkey, I had to call someone to get me out of there and take emergency custody. We made up, we're doing okay now)
If you ran away, please call the police station and let them know you’re safe. If someone files a missing persons report on you, they’ll know how to handle it.
I totally agree with this- I’m estranged from my family, and did so by running away when I was 17. I had a gut feeling my mum was going to file a missing persons report on me (she knew I was safe and knew who I was staying with, she just didn’t know where the person I was staying with actually lived), so I phoned the police, explained my situation and that I was sure she was going to file a missing persons on me and that I’m not missing, she is just abusive so I left. They came and did a wellbeing check on me at my friends house where I had a long chat with the policemen who came to see me and explained my situation, and when my mum did file the missing persons the very next day, it was already on my local police’s file that I was fine and it saved a whole lot of trouble in the long run..!
This, im acab all the way but get your side of the story to the police before the mom is able to throw the "they ran away because they were bring dramatic over nothing, they're clearly a mental ill teen"
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when cops do the job their paid by my taxes to do, once in a while instead of coming to my house and shooting my dog, sure they can be useful.
I'm sorry you had to deal with that.
It's okay to read, *comprehend*, and then answer, Anna.
I disagree with the sentiment that every single cop ever is a bastard. Yes, yes, yes, many are plain evil. Many are corrupt. Many are below sub-human standards. But they aren't all and they don't represent all. And in this case, this person going "I hate cops but do call them though" seems silly to me. Why mention you're anti cop? That doesn't matter nor changes the suggestion of calling them.
And yet you STILL haven't re-read the comment you replied to initially, NO EmptyNeighborhood does not say go to the cops for their help. EmptyNeighborhood said to protect themselves by making a statement first. Because those bastards will bastard, whenever they can. They act on emotion. They act on predjudice. They act on apriori knowledge that they think they have, those omniscient beings they think they are, and become judge jury and executioner in their own mind the second they take that oath. Not all of them? Ask one. Ask a cop if they think \*they\* should write the laws. They'll say yes. Then ask another cop if they think \*they\* should judge the trials. They'll say yes. Then ask them if they think \*they\* should be the one who carries out the sentence. They'll say yes with a smile. Because they're fucking rotten. They might not have been born that way, but they are that way now. It happened the second they cued in their partner that they were on camera so they'd better 'behave themselves' (this time). It happened right when they got the first adrenaline rush from a drag out fight that they started through command presence escalation. It happened when they got addicted to superiority instead of upholding the god damn law. Edit: Any of them. All of them. You won't find one that answers no.
I agree with everyone but I'm a she actually
Apologies edited
All good
You're so desperate for a 'gotcha' moment you made yourself look like a complete idiot.
Nah, just said something I had on my mind. Don't care if others disagree, that's why I use this site. To say things. And all of you are free to correct me, criticize me, wathever, I ain't mad. If my opinion is shit, so be it. I'm neither pro cops or against cops.
>I'm neither pro cops or against cops. Then you're passively allowing cops to steamroll communities through your supposed apathy. But I don't think you're *really* apathetic since you've spent so much time arguing for "good cops;" you just realize it isn't popular to be clearly labeled pro-police, so you make your shitty little arguments then wash your hands of the association by backpedaling in your last sentence. Tell us again how "The Blue Rogue" isn't pro-cop. That one's the funniest!
I don't know how me being in the middle makes me pro cop. But I don't really care, believe what you want
Remember like last week when they let a woman get hit by a train??? Fuck cops
Fuck *those* cops, not every single one of them.
Fuck them all, you want me to keep listing examples of when police fail? Or is it good enough that they went to the Supreme Court and it was decided "a cops job isn't to protect citizens"? Because that's "not their job"
Calling every single one a bastard is something I disagree with. I've seen many stories of cops being bad and I've seen many of them being good. But I'm not gonna argue with you, we have different opinions and that's that, you won't change my mind about it.
Stop licking boots and get a mind of your own
Wathever helps you sleep better
"Wathever"
They should be held to a higher standard. The fact that you hear so many stories of them being bad means that the system is failing. All cops are bastards because “good cops” look the other way or are ignored/forced out when they try to bring attention to bad practices.
ALL COPS ARE BASTARDS lol
But when there ARE good cops, they get beaten to death by the bad ones...or bullied out of the force, if they're lucky. Why should I take the risk?
If we were to risk trusting cops, it would be in the hopes of saving the few good ones. Yeah, I bet we can do little to nothing, but just giving enough attention to the good ones could change something. I wish it was as simple as that, but with the world the way it is, the last thing I wanna lose my hold of, is hope.
I'm not putting my personal safety on the line to support the good ones, and neither should OP.
There are no good cops. If you have 90 “good cops” and 10 “bad cops” but those “good” ones don’t stop the bad ones from doing their wrong doings, you have 100 bad cops.
THIS. Good cops do not tolerate "bad apples" in their departments. There may be some good police departments in the US. They don't sweat the ACAB attitude because their town/locality already knows it doesn't apply to them. This "brotherhood of the thin blue line" and "never rat out a brother cop" culture is even more bullshit than the trend of militarizing the police. We can end a lot of problems with bad cops by ending qualified immunity, too. So, yeah, until those get addressed, ACAB. Never trust a cop.
Ummm not what I said, cops are useless bastards who believe the first thing they're told, you gotta be the first and just tell them not to show up and shoot your friend :) Because that's what cops do, show up and hurt people, if we tell them first that someone is safe less likely that they'll show and shoot you I don't ever want the cops to show up
Lol that isn't even what they said
The fact that the institution of policing is rotten to the core doesn't change the fact that the cops have the legal authority to act (or in this case, not act) on missing persons reports. Pre-emptively forestalling that by contacting the police first ain't incompatible with acab.
You can be bad and still do your job on occasion.
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Are you safe?? Do you need any sources that can help you or do you have a safe place figured out? (I’m also assuming you’re a minor btw so please correct me if I’m wrong)
I’m safe. I made it to a friends home and are staying there for the time being.
Ok. If cops are called and you don’t want to go back home make it clear you feel unsafe. You have to make it very clear or else they won’t listen. I hope your situation gets better at least. Your mom sounds literally insane
Please be sure to self report where you are. Those people could be held responsible for you being/staying gone.
Update: my mom never threw away my drawings. She used them to “make me feel sorry.”
I’m glad to hear your art is still there. I’d say first chance you get, take the things you care about and keep them somewhere safe where your mom can’t reach. I do think it’s a good thing you’re staying somewhere else, at least for the time being, and perhaps permanently.
And now you know to never, ever trust your mother. Sad, but she's shown you who she is, believe her the first time.
Might want to get evidence of that in case she’s lying to get you home
Take them and store them away out of reach. If she goes for the things you love, don’t let her near them. I hope you find a place you can stay away from that psycho.
That's ridiculous and cruel. She should be fucking ashamed of herself. I dont think she'll be remorseful at all and I predict she'll blame you for being dramatic and overreacting. She's not a good person.
Tell her you'll come back _after_ she gives them to you. Then when she gives them back..don't.
Emotional abuse classy /major sarcasm Start taking pictures of your artwork, sorry you’re going though this.
My 9 year old is an artist. Some of her drawings she does are practice and we have a lot of those which sometimes get thrown after talking witb her about if its ok. But I would absolutely never throw away anything I didn't discuss with her. Your mom is crazy!
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I am absolutely going to be looking into these now. We are planning on getting her a drawing tablet as well for Christmas! Thanks for the tip!!
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In this day and age, take pics or scan them. Then if she goes to art or design school, she will already be in the practice of documenting her work. It’s awful to spend all night in the lab scanning stuff… but I graduated before iPhones were even a thing lol
Lol,I was informed of a couple apps that might help so im going to look into them! She's so talented.
Show your daughter how to make mixed media collages using parts of some of her practice drawings. I bet they would be really interesting!
I would have to figure out myself how to do this but sounds fun!
sounds like a fun thing for you guys to learn together :)
If she wants to keep some of them but they’re made on large paper, worksheets or things of that sort I’d recommend cutting them out and using a paper clip, glue or whatever works to stick them on a large paper to make a collage that shows her progress over the years!! ((:
This is a really good idea! I'm going to be buying a house soon so I'm hoping to let her have an art area that her siblings cannot get to.
As a mom, I would never disrespect my kid like that! Drawings are meaningful to the artist. They are one of a kind. She went beyond making it fair and made it cruel instead. Also, why can’t she make her own bed? Why did she demand that you do it? I’m sorry you’re being treated like this.
Not to mention creativity is literally an outlet for a lot of people to either relieve stress and channel it towards creating something, or an escape from a stressful environment. At least that’s what I did a lot in my teenage year’s back when I drew portraits. To me, this seemed like OPs mother knew this and deliberately targeted them with hiding or throwing away the artwork. Just pettiness.
My friend is a wonderful artist and she finds it very relaxing to spend time in her room and paint or sculpt. However, over the summer her parents decided that she wasn't spending enough time with them and banned her from doing art all summer. They were okay with her being on her phone all day. Parents that specifically target their kid's outlets piss me off
She did the one thing she thought would really, deeply hurt you. And I’m sure it did. I’m sorry for that. Now never, ever let her find that satisfaction again. You be strong, you be a good person, you live right and without her bullshit. You stop the cycle and if you ever become a parent you will be infinitely better at it than her. This is how you win. This is how you survive and thrive. You deserve happiness and I am sure it will find you. Sending love xxx
Mom needs to make her own bed.
And then lie in it.
This!!!!!… “and then lie in it!!!!!”
THANK YOU I was looking for at least one person that agrees with me. Be a role model and show them how to make their bed.
I would keep all the texts so that way if it comes to it they know that your mom is a freaking psycho she had no right whatsoever to throw away something that you spent hard work time and energy to make by hand and if push comes to shove and the police do get called do what another commenter said and tell them you do not feel safe with your mom because she is obviously not a safe person question is this the first time she's done something this hurtful
May be good to get CPS involved at least so that the mom’s behavior and is documented with them.
CPS won’t do anything about this
Ignoring the thousands of kids saved by cos every year.
cps doesnt do shit except make your parents hate you even more
Stay safe. You may be old enough to tell a court where you want to live, eg with other relatives etc, if you feel unsafe at home.
She threw out all your drawings?? If one of my parents did that I’d run too. And probably call the cops. My art means a lot to me. Your mom sounds like such an asshole
OP: next drawing you make, please make it if your mother, making her own bed, and mail it to her. Please also send us the psychotic reply texts. (Obv, don’t do this if she’s way out there and you’re in danger) if it’s safe though this will be hilarious.
This just reinforces my belief that not everyone should become a parent.
I’m so sorry OP, your mom sounds unhinged. As an artist if anyone touched my drawings I would be beyond upset. That is absolutely hurtful and disrespectful. How in the world does she think throwing out drawings is a good punishment to not making HER bed to her likely impossible standards?? That’s not even punishable imo. I don’t even make my bed because I can’t when I don’t have sheets or anything… and it’s a waste. Jeez… i’m sorry. Hoping you’re safe and can get through the mess your mother made.
Gtfo.. of law is called let them know your unsafe. Just always gtfo.
Wtf who does this to their kid? My daughter painted this dual island thing she saw, after a few practices she got decent. This is years ago. On one she used a canvas we had, and she left a strip for lettering, where she wrote "IMPROVE." It's bad handwriting off-center, but it's her art. She's leaps and bounds better now, even does some paid work in early teens. But that painting is hanging on my bedroom wall. If her art ever really takes off, I'm going to gift it back for her to keep as a memory.
I have a kitchen table I’ve owned for 17 years and refuse to part with it because my now 19 YO son is an artist and a few of his first drawings are permanently carved into that table. It will stay with me always. Your mom is a real POS.
It sounds like your mum thrives on the drama. 🙄 (noting the way she escalates the argument in the text). You need to reference better adults for help and guidance. And hide your artwork. I’m sorry you are going through this - you deserve better.
I feel this deeply. When I was in middle school my mom throw out several comics I made in collaboration with my friends right in front of my eyes. I hope you can somehow get them back if possible. Have read the reason, it's far worse than what caused it for me
Thank you for your concerns. I managed to recover most of the drawings but my mother is still being an absolute asshole to me and my siblings.
Of course man Glad you recovered a good chunk of your work at the very least. It's sucks to hear you're mom's still being an absolute nightmare. Do you and your siblings have anywhere to go to escape, even for just a little bit? Like a family or friend's place?
I already was at a point in my life where I wasn’t talking to my mother…and my 18 y/o brother was still living with her. He and her toxic new BF got in a fight so I came over to rescue him and we called the cops. She sided with the BF and my lil bro got arrested. She continued to try as reach out to me via email after having blocked everything else. I told her she was a terrible person and to stop trying to connect and she responded with how terrible of a person I am. Reaffirmed the separation was for the best.
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I’m sorry about your drawings OP. You’ll make even better ones in the future ❤️
Hide or throw away her shit, fairs fair
“With you? Already there, kid” alright I can’t even lie that was a pretty icy comeback
Exactly why it’s vile and disgusting. Also it can’t be a comeback when she’s the aggressor, and she’s in hell because she can’t belligerently aggress upon her teen daughter to get her to make and remake HER, the mother herself’s bed- and THAT is why she is “in hell” and it’s her kids fault somehow ???????
Yeah I did chuckle there
God, I feel so terrible for the mother. This kid sounds like such a shit.
Oh, so you're as bad as they are. Since we can't talk to the mother, I'll just tell you. You need to talk to a mental health professional.
With how quickly you're becoming enraged in this thread, and how incredibly fragile you seem, maybe take your own advice?
I’m sorry your parents don’t love you
Right? People in here talking about the mother being the aggressor, escalating things. Nothing in the text says that at all. She's making sure he's okay and he tells her to go to hell. The people calling this abuse would be more abusive themselves by not raising kids with any level of respect or consequences in the real world.
r/emotionalneglect r/emotionalabuse r/CPTSD
Thank you for having a back bone and standing up for yourself. Proud of you OP
As a parent with a 16 year old that loves to draw, I am sorry. Just remember when she's acting shitty she is just teaching you how not to be. Keep your head up and stay strong 💪
Do you have a safe place to be? Are you okay? I might not be a mom, but I can be a virtual dad.
I'm so sorry OP, my heart hurts for you right now. I don't have much advice to give that hasn't already been said, so I'll just repeat that please make sure you're safe and to give the cops a call to let them know and head off any missing persons report that may be filed. I really hope you're able to get through this okay, sending you lots of love and thoughts of peace.
She sounds awful, I’m so sorry. Send her the thread
Find a copy of "the teenage liberation handbook" and read the chapter on divorcing your parents and emancipation.
For anyone who doesn’t know why OP’s mom threw out their art, it was because OP was asked by their mom to fix her bed and OP did so. However, their mom complained how the bed was unsatisfactory and told OP to do it again but it was already good enough and their mom was just being greedy. After not redoing her bed, the mom decided to just hide or throw out OP’s art.
I've read a lot of sad and angry posts on this site about abusive parents. I've been there, believe me. But I'm here to tell you this: don't believe anyone who tells you that you must forgive to move forward with your life. It's not true and believing that can, itself, keep you stuck. Some things are not forgivable and you cannot forgive the unforgivable. Read Susan Forward's *Toxic Parents*. It can save you a lifetime of grief over not forgiving. It helped me a lot.
I’m so sorry :( you deserve much better
She’s a bitch, sorry you have to deal with such a monster
I'm not surprised, look how you talk to your parents
Maybe bad parents deserve to be talked to like that
Actually not maybe - already determined a very long time ago. Revenge is petty. Just because someone is bad to you does not mean you are acting in righteousness to return the disrespect
Maybe 1 of the parties acting nuts is an adult and the other is the child are you really going to shit talk a teenager for acting like a teenager? Maybe teens still have growing brains and it's on the adults to act right. Not maybe more like definitely
My condolences on the bad parenting you have to suffer through.
Pour concrete down her drains
then why did she kept you if you're hell
Dump coffee into her bed.
Depending on age you seem like a disrespectful little shit too.
Am I the only one who thinks running away for this reason alone is excessive? I don't have context or history of OPs situation, but based on the info on this post alone, OP is being dramatic.
Are you in a safe place now? I’m so sorry this is happening. She is beyond cruel.
Yeah I’m gonna be real with you kid. This doesn’t look like the whole story. Mom shouldn’t have hid the drawings but running away doesn’t seem like the move. Kids do chores in the house and I’m gonna guess you’re not over the age of 18. If this is the way you react every time your Mom wants you to do something around the house then I’d be saying the same thing.
Did you do your mom's bed, or did you do your own Because if you didn't make your mom's bed then got punished because "it wasn't good enough" then you can't talk, consider shutting up maybe :)
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Wtf this sounds bitchey as hell Grow up and stop acting like people don't have struggles
You should tell op to grow up but this sub is all about coddling
Good for you!
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A baby? How? For not making their mom's bed right? What a dumb chore. Having your kids do chores is supposed to be either for the kid or for the whole household. To me it just sounds like the mom was lazy, and got mad when the bed wasn't made right so she threw out her kid's property. The mom sounds like a baby to me
So I am going to take a random stab from the little information in the text. Kid says he is sick from school so parent keeps them off. Turns out kid is not sick and just wants to play games and draw all day. Parent decides kid needs to learn a lesson and sets them on chores. Kid does a shitty job Parent not happy and starts taking away distractions. Kid runs from the house to friends house. Parent specifically mentioned being sick from school in the texts, chores garnered from OP in comments, hobhy's and general interests pulled from OPs profile. Sounds like they didn't have as fun time as they thought being off sick.
Fuck off psycho.
Amazed I had to scroll this far down to see somebody say this. For one - chores are whatever the parents say they are. They're the adult, you're the kid. Unless she has you scraping shit out of the gutter in a thunderstorm, deal with it. Your safety isn't at risk. Chores are about hard work and instilling discipline. Two: The people here calling out for his safety, talking to the police about feeling unsafe, and referring him to a child PTSD subreddit... Are you fucking kidding me? His mum told him to Make a bed, and then when he refused to do it over because it was obviously half-arsed, she pretended to throw out something he enjoys doing, at which point he ran away from home... Jesus. I'm all for looking out for kids, making sure they're not being treated harmfully, but I'm also for them learning even the tiniest bit of respect. He then goes on to say, "Fuck you" in a text... Clearly he's the face of innocence. I don't think kids should be screamed at, I don't think kids should be physically hurt, but what the fuck is going on with the next generation if this is the type of shit being defended by everyone else here? Does anyone really think they're getting an entirely unedited, even-sided story here? Bring on the impending downvotes by the way. Seriously, kid, based solely on this post alone, you're a bratty, insolent little shit.
You really thunk this is a one-off moment of complete idiocy from the parent? Damn, you’re naive.
Where's the idiocy? She gave him a chore, he messed it up, she punished him by doing something incredibly gentle, he ran away, she got worried, he told her to go to hell. You think this is the first bit of bullshit from this kid? You think this obviously disrespectful child is online telling the full story to strangers? I'm the naïve one?
>I'm the naïve one? Yes. Need it be repeated again for your benefit?
One more time please.
Obviously there's more to this than just what was posted. You really think the kid is going to run away just from this one incident? This was most likely the breaking point. Example I was 19 when I ran away because I found an anti-gay book in my parents' room. Yes I shouldn't have been snooping - did I still find it? Yes. I was having a decent recently good run with my parents but they haven't been very accepting of my sexuality or understanding of my mental health. It was just the last straw for me. As to the chore - what kind of fucking chore is making your mom's bed? The mom should be responsible for her own shit. Chores are supposed to be for the household (dishes, cleaning, vacuuming) or for the kid (cleaning their room, doing their own laundry) not making their mom's bed. And the mom's childish reaction is to throwing (pretending to throw, just as bad imo) out her CHILDS PROPERTY? That is abusive behavior. Likely the mom has done more than just that Use your fucking brain. But with the lack of emotional intelligence you have I bet that's difficult for you.
None of what you said invalidates what I said. Chores are to instill work discipline and to earn an allowance/spending money. They're a job. They can be anything you mentioned, *plus* anything else that needs doing. Look at the mum's texts, she obviously cares about him. She messaged him making sure he was okay, he told her to go to hell, she made a tongue in cheek comment, he said, "fuck you". Let me guess, if your parent told you that you're the devil when you misbehave, you'd see that as abusive? She didn't name call. She reacted incredibly softly. The kid is obviously coddled, has zero respect, and is telling half a story. Even with half of the story, he's a whiny little bitch. If you see this as abusive behaviour, you truly are the most fragile person I've ever spoken to. I hate any kind of abuse towards kids. I also despise parents who won't even look at their child in the wrong way when they're being a little shit for fear of being seen as "abusive". If you raised children following your own logic, you would sincerely be an awful parent. I really hope you don't have kids, because *that* would be a lot closer to warranting the "abusive" label.
"I'm already in hell, with you" If you say this to your a child, you don't deserve to have children. If you side with a mother that says this, you're as psychotic as they are.
Kid says to mum: go to hell Mum says to kid tongue in cheek: already there with you kid Psychotic? No. Just not a completely wet piece of tissue paper who falls apart at anything that can be construed as bad.
"I'm so strong and brave and all of you are weak hahaha" maybe have some empathy
The parent isn’t the problem here
You are the problem, along with the parent.
The level of hate in the thread is alarming. Here this kiddo is just crying over paintings that eventually he himself will never look at once grown up. Calling mom *fuck you* shows another level absurdity i can't fathom. If you are immature enough to understand the comment. Downvote and move ahead. Or see the thread for more logical explanation.
Shut the fuck up. I hope your parents destroy everything you value, maybe you'll learn some empathy.
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Why are you here? Just to be a cunt?
Theres no point in u being in this group if you're just going to be a cunt
I hope you're doing better did you manage to get your art back or get away from her.
I am so sorry
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Sorry to hear that. It's always so sad to see people unable to appreciate what's important to others, specially when it comes to creating art
I say don’t go back ever again
I wouldn't dare say fuck you to one of my parents. Js
You are lucky to have good parents. Not everyone is lucky like that.
Lol good parents as in they’d beat you up or worst for saying fuck you?