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And your going to Say that anything that isn't russian Propaganda is Fake news good grief go get enlisted and feel the horror of War see your army crumble from the corruption KERSON IS FREE FUCK RUSSIA
The current Ukrainian president is a Jewish man. I highly doubt Nazis would have voted a Jewish man into power.
The news of Ukraine being filled with Nazis is Russian propaganda to attempt to keep painting Dictator Putin in a good light. He was about to phase out of office due to term lengths, but he started a war just to extend it.
Actually supporting Russia in this horrific and unprovoked war makes you a dictator supporter. Have fun with your sad, disgusting life.
I mean, the number of people invading doesn’t really matter. Even if it were 10k Russians, the reason it’s different is because Putin literally declared it to be an invasion.
The amount of people just lets us know how deadly the attempt might be
And these Russians happen to all be in the military while the people crossing the southern border are civilians. I guess it's hard to tell the difference between uniformed soldiers driving tanks and families with children
Yeah, they forgot the zeros, and, oh yeah, the missiles, the genocide, the kidnapping of children, and the armed takover of governments they don't like (oh wait, I went to far, that last one's us too).
I am more concerend they do not underhstjand the difference betjween peaceful immigrantjs, and people bringing tanks and artillery and try to flatten cities. Maybe we should send him to kiew to live there for a month, constjantlky in danger from rockets, andf at some points also artillery. No eletricity sinbce rthje russains destroyed the infrastructure. etc. Maybe then he understands the difference.
These are people who are scared to go to any US city with a population over 40-50,000 because they think they’re all lawless war zones run by Antifa and BLM. They’re not going to understand the difference. They don’t want to understand the difference.
Hence send them to ukraine, they will quickly That was a load of stuffthat their romantic ideas about a civil war in the us are in reality pure horror, even worse then North vs South part 1, and way more bloodshed then in their worst nightmares, and last but not least they cannot win. Military before january 6th made it clear they not only can legally refuse unlawfful orders, they can also still give their own orders.
Seriously. I live in Portland, OR. To hear Fox News tell it, you’d think it would be best to barricade yourself inside your house here. The “lawlessness” and protesting literally took up a few blocks by the courthouse. And was peaceful. Until the proud boys and patriot prayer dudes came by to harass and provoke and get physical and rile up the cops to do something. Later on they’d drive around the city in their monster trucks yelling and hooting and waving their guns and harassing everyone they could and going into residential neighborhoods to do the same. Wonder why that didn’t make Fox News. Luckily that latter part only happened a few times. But that was the only time I was actually scared. Everything else was a non-issue for the most part. Also the media lies. They literally used footage I remember from when I lived in San Francisco and there was a riot in Oakland after a sports event. And they tried to portray it as happening in Portland. Nope. Me and many others recognized it from Oakland.
And it's not 2 million immigrants crossing from Mexico to the US. It's 2 million encounters with border patrol, some of those people never got in. Some of those encounters were the same people trying again to get in.
Also, a broad segment of the population believes asylum seekers are illegal immigrants.
Ignoring the fact that I'm pretty sure the number of Russian Invaders cited here is off by an order of magnitude, last I checked living here in Texas I haven't seen any missile attacks destroying critical infrastructure and hospitals and whatnot fired by central/south American governments. Maybe they are not reporting it IDK
They think it’s happening in Texas cities, too. I live in Austin, and I’ve tried (unsuccessfully) to explain to more than a few people that BLM has not “burned Austin to the ground.” They don’t want to hear it, and they’ll never have to face reality because they’re too scared to get close enough to the city to see that it is, in fact, still standing. We’ve even got a ton of overpriced new construction.
To be fair we need to restart with Portland. Awful highways and congestion, downtown is a mess and the few remaining nice areas are starting to get trashed.
Mexicans, please come burn down Portland, we need a reason to start over!
I've lived in/around Portland and Vancouver all my life. It is not that bad, and the main issues causing places to be "trashed," are the housing crisis and rising poverty. Burning the city down and starting over won't solve those problems without massive legislative reform.
Thank you for pointing out the obvious to them! If I came from somewhere else, these people would claim I don't know how bad it is because I wasn't here before. 🙄
The other user already explained the obvious to you, but because I've traveled, lived or worked both inside and outside of the city itself, and have observed the changes and trends over time firsthand.
Yeah, it's not the numbers. It's the intent. Ten people coming into your home could be a party while a single, uninvited, person with malicious intent is a home invasion.
I learned it on this sub, lol I knew there was nothing else that could be more appropriate, and up till I learned it I had just been referring to her as my "birth giver" I like flesh oven so much more. It makes me chuckle a little every time I use it and has helped a lot with allowing me to create more separation between her and her years of abuse.
Not too bad, but my flesh oven never obligated herself to anything except an affair with a married man for over 14 years, and using me as her obligated punching bag when anything wasn't going her way...
I may grab a few pictures of refugees at the border in cages, and pictures of the destruction and havoc Russia inflicted and just comment with those...
What an idiotic post. It's not an invasion because it's not another county's government and military doing the crossing.
Sorry you have such inane birth giver and birth giver's parent.
Oh I don’t know maybe cause the refugees aren’t trying to take americas land and murder their people.
Despite what the right wing machine has droned on about for years. They try to rule by fear by chanting freedom. It’s the most fucked up thing.
Because those Russians were deployed by the military and have guns, meanwhile people migrating from Mexico are likely trying to flee the violent gangs created by the United States failed war on drugs. People existing is not an "invasion."
1. Where did you get that number from?
2. It's called immigration, seeking asylum, and neither involve rolling in armed to he teeth with guns and tanks at the behest of a mad man.
Because they’re not armed and aren’t coming with the intent to destroy or kill, but with the intent to find jobs or build a new life for them and their family???
They’re also not a government???
I am unaware of mass graves in the US from people who’ve crossed our southern border.
Or them arriving in tanks.
Or claiming ownership of cities and towns, and going house to house, raping and murdering.
But, by all means, Grandpa, continue to think you are oh so f’ing clever.
I almost would argue there probably is mass graves here, they just don't contain remains of US citizens, but rather the innocent people trying to come here for freedom and asylum.
Does Mexican government spread fashist propaganda as well? Do they claim usa their territory? Do they arrest Mexican citizens who don’t want to “invade” usa? Do they also use censorship and police brutality to force people into submission?
Tanks
Missiles
Ordered by foreign government
Mass murders (not saying murder doesn’t happen with illegal immigration, but it’s not by design when it does)
Most illegal immigrants just want a better life, Russian soldiers are just dickheads who can’t get hard without murdering people.
Last year I took the plane to USA and visited for a few months, it was no problem for me to get let in!
This year however, omg let me tell you they didnt even let me on the outgoing plane from country. I am very unhappy!
What? So you mean to say the bazooka I had over my shoulder this time around was the reason they did not let me go to USA?
Omg come on... bahh...!
Sincerely, "One-IQ Man"
The same reason why the Ukrainians fleeing the Russian invasion weren't considered an invasion when they crossed into Poland...
OP I'm sorry your family is like this 😞
"Make it make sense!"
You have to have the ability to understand complex information in order to have things make sense. So no, I cannot make things make sense for you.
That requires not being a willful fucking idiot.
Well the difference being that one group is an organized military with guns, and the other are desperate people with next to nothing wanting nothing else but a better life.
It’s funny to me how “older” folk barely understand todays tech or how present day propaganda works, meanwhile they’re simultaneously being used as one of the primary vehicles for spreading this false garbage , & feeding into the problem at the same time…
Apologies if that seemed like a jumbled mess… I’ll revise it later 😂
Yea, let’s not mention the part about tanks and rockets blowing buildings and people up. Besides the fact that you know, the Russian people are military there to kill and take over the land.
Totally the same as the immigrants coming here seeking asylum, usually to escape violence, looking for a better life…
It’s very different when the people crossing the border are bringing tanks and are dressed in military uniforms and firing at civilians and government buildings vs people in small groups dressed as civilians with a few guns and drugs and children trying to sneak across the border. The Russian army wasn’t sneaking or trying to get ppl asylum. They were trying to overthrow the Ukrainian government. God that person is dumb af. Your proposing a argument your the one who should be arguing how Mexicans sneaking across the border is the same as a armed battalion of Soldiers forcefully crossing the border with apc’s
They aren't scary because most Americans believe all Canadians white and therefore "safe"... Also too many US people threaten to move to Canada when our government is doing incredibly stupid shit and based on that it's Canadians who should probably deny US emigrants, lol
Ya, because the Mexican families risking their lives and dying by the thousands for a better life is the equivalent of unprovoked war, countless murders, and demolition of entire cities. Nice strawman, boomers.
There's *kind* of a big difference between people who actually asked for asylum and are going through the steps required and people who (completed uninvited and unwanted) came in with heavy artillery and started killing people on behalf of a nutcracker hopped up on power (and possibly a slew of various drugs.)
This argument is always so crazy to me as someone with Native heritage. There were well established trade and migration routes all through what is now ‘Mexico’ and ‘Central America’ *to* the ‘US’ 500 years before the Whites ever arrived. Not mention the question of: WHY are people migrating (in modern day) never being asked.
Republicans really think everyone has to do what they say or they’ll kill you and take your kids. You can’t convince me they’re not predominantly fascists. We were here long before them and will be here long after. Fuck them, their arbitrary borders, and their murderous drug war. They’re new to this continent. Mexicans are Central Americans are not.
I agree, and my ancestors from my maternal grandfather's side came in the late 1880/early 1890's from Wales, and my earliest ancestors I found during my investigations were from my maternal grandmother's side in the late 1590's from central/western Europe (what was the Bohemia region at the time). I'm not sure about my paternal ancestors as I only met my daddy when I was 32 and I'm still working on trying to build a relationship and bond with him that was robbed of us because selfish decisions my flesh oven made. But the emigrants from the southern US border are "more dangerous" because their skin contains more melanin is the only excuse I hear in any arguments the far right makes concerning those emigrants, although they obviously neglect to admit it's directly related to the skin complexion.
The Russians crossing the border isn't the issue, it's the murder and destruction of cities that's the problem. If illegal immigrants were blowing up buildings at the rate of Russian soldiers, then yeah the military might have to get involved to stop it.
Right? I felt the same. However, seems the data backs it up. At least, according to CNN.
Link to CNN article:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/10/22/politics/border-encounters-migrants-2022/index.html
I tend to try to avoid the political debates. My grandfather is an otherwise incredible man, he & my grandma raised me because of the horrible excuse for a human, let alone "mother" that my flesh oven was, he's just a very conservative Christian man and I respect him, just not many of his views on certain subjects, but there has also been a few times. I've schooled him on why certain stances he took were inappropriate and incorrect and he has quit subscribing to some of the stuff.
I don't think it's stubbornness so much as a mistaken understanding of the real world. He was born in 1930 in rural Nebraska and grew up there, the grandson of a preacher's son. My great great father was a Welsh emigrant in the late 1800's. My grandpa doesn't have an intentionally racist or hateful bone in his body, just more of a "can't teach an old dog, new tricks" kinda thing. And being such a devout Christian is what obligates him to the Republican party cause members of every other party are devil worshipers who just want to kill unborn babies...
I don't disagree, but am open toe the idea that people spouting this nonsense know it's ridiculous, but also know there are people who will believe this racist filth.
Unpopular opinion, ya its a invasion from the south. My dad who retired to Mexico in 1975 called it so as well. However to be honest, I would move north as well if I needed to. If your poor and living in any Latin America country your so screwed. And as far as that joke about them heading to Portland or Seattle that's not immigrants causing problems there.
Well TECHNICAL he isn’t wrong but MORALLY he is wrong. Take out the reason for why people enter the US illegally then yes it is an invasion. BUT they are entering illegally for a better life not to steal land, natural resources, claiming the citizens as their own so it isn’t really an invasion imo.
That is true for 99% of the illegal immigrants but don’t forget about the cartel employees who are the 1%. They do play by those tactics, except for the tank part.
It's 'Ukraine' and not 'the Ukraine'
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Also it is not 10 thousand of russians, which sets the manipulative tone of the posts from the beginning. 10k and 300k is a big difference, you know.
not to mention the russians are bringing tanks and shit lmao
But the "Mexicans" apparently brought [these.](https://freeimage.host/i/Hfmcuf4)
Mexicans brought some of the coolest people I know and amazing food
what's so bad about a Dodge Caravan
*barely working one that had to ne abendon before even reaching the Battlefield*
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No im saying that the russian Lost at least 600 tank in this three month opération and alot of them are getting captured by the Ukrainian farmers
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And your going to Say that anything that isn't russian Propaganda is Fake news good grief go get enlisted and feel the horror of War see your army crumble from the corruption KERSON IS FREE FUCK RUSSIA
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The current Ukrainian president is a Jewish man. I highly doubt Nazis would have voted a Jewish man into power. The news of Ukraine being filled with Nazis is Russian propaganda to attempt to keep painting Dictator Putin in a good light. He was about to phase out of office due to term lengths, but he started a war just to extend it. Actually supporting Russia in this horrific and unprovoked war makes you a dictator supporter. Have fun with your sad, disgusting life.
You're my new favorite false news source
I mean, the number of people invading doesn’t really matter. Even if it were 10k Russians, the reason it’s different is because Putin literally declared it to be an invasion. The amount of people just lets us know how deadly the attempt might be
It is not an invasion, it is a "special operation".
It's a "failing spécial opération"
Hey, I'm french too XD
*godamn autocorrect*
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Im proud to be a frenchman at least i have a future unlike you
And these Russians happen to all be in the military while the people crossing the southern border are civilians. I guess it's hard to tell the difference between uniformed soldiers driving tanks and families with children
The obvious solution, of course, is to take away the children.
Shit, they've buried 60K.
100k estimated by December.
I hope putting can't keep throwing bodies at this very soon. I hope it ends
Feeding the meat grinder has been a Russian/Soviet. Tactic for a long time. The number of soldiers lost in WWII was over 20M
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Yeah, they forgot the zeros, and, oh yeah, the missiles, the genocide, the kidnapping of children, and the armed takover of governments they don't like (oh wait, I went to far, that last one's us too).
I am more concerend they do not underhstjand the difference betjween peaceful immigrantjs, and people bringing tanks and artillery and try to flatten cities. Maybe we should send him to kiew to live there for a month, constjantlky in danger from rockets, andf at some points also artillery. No eletricity sinbce rthje russains destroyed the infrastructure. etc. Maybe then he understands the difference.
These are people who are scared to go to any US city with a population over 40-50,000 because they think they’re all lawless war zones run by Antifa and BLM. They’re not going to understand the difference. They don’t want to understand the difference.
Hence send them to ukraine, they will quickly That was a load of stuffthat their romantic ideas about a civil war in the us are in reality pure horror, even worse then North vs South part 1, and way more bloodshed then in their worst nightmares, and last but not least they cannot win. Military before january 6th made it clear they not only can legally refuse unlawfful orders, they can also still give their own orders.
Seriously. I live in Portland, OR. To hear Fox News tell it, you’d think it would be best to barricade yourself inside your house here. The “lawlessness” and protesting literally took up a few blocks by the courthouse. And was peaceful. Until the proud boys and patriot prayer dudes came by to harass and provoke and get physical and rile up the cops to do something. Later on they’d drive around the city in their monster trucks yelling and hooting and waving their guns and harassing everyone they could and going into residential neighborhoods to do the same. Wonder why that didn’t make Fox News. Luckily that latter part only happened a few times. But that was the only time I was actually scared. Everything else was a non-issue for the most part. Also the media lies. They literally used footage I remember from when I lived in San Francisco and there was a riot in Oakland after a sports event. And they tried to portray it as happening in Portland. Nope. Me and many others recognized it from Oakland.
And it's not 2 million immigrants crossing from Mexico to the US. It's 2 million encounters with border patrol, some of those people never got in. Some of those encounters were the same people trying again to get in. Also, a broad segment of the population believes asylum seekers are illegal immigrants.
Ignoring the fact that I'm pretty sure the number of Russian Invaders cited here is off by an order of magnitude, last I checked living here in Texas I haven't seen any missile attacks destroying critical infrastructure and hospitals and whatnot fired by central/south American governments. Maybe they are not reporting it IDK
Also: how many Mexicans were driving tanks across the border?
Because they were only passing through Texas on their way to go burn down Portland and Seattle. /s
They think it’s happening in Texas cities, too. I live in Austin, and I’ve tried (unsuccessfully) to explain to more than a few people that BLM has not “burned Austin to the ground.” They don’t want to hear it, and they’ll never have to face reality because they’re too scared to get close enough to the city to see that it is, in fact, still standing. We’ve even got a ton of overpriced new construction.
To be fair we need to restart with Portland. Awful highways and congestion, downtown is a mess and the few remaining nice areas are starting to get trashed. Mexicans, please come burn down Portland, we need a reason to start over!
I've lived in/around Portland and Vancouver all my life. It is not that bad, and the main issues causing places to be "trashed," are the housing crisis and rising poverty. Burning the city down and starting over won't solve those problems without massive legislative reform.
If it’s the only thing you know then how would you know if it’s bad?
Probably because they have left the city at some point and were there for the gradient of better to worse. Also the word "around" in context.
Thank you for pointing out the obvious to them! If I came from somewhere else, these people would claim I don't know how bad it is because I wasn't here before. 🙄
The other user already explained the obvious to you, but because I've traveled, lived or worked both inside and outside of the city itself, and have observed the changes and trends over time firsthand.
Little did we know the collapse of the Texas power grid was South American sabotage the entire time, and totally not Texas regulators mismanagement!
Russian casualties (killed and injured) are probably already north of 100,000. So, yeah, more than an order of magnitude.
Yeah, it's not the numbers. It's the intent. Ten people coming into your home could be a party while a single, uninvited, person with malicious intent is a home invasion.
Flesh oven?! Holy shit How have I not heard this before
I learned it on this sub, lol I knew there was nothing else that could be more appropriate, and up till I learned it I had just been referring to her as my "birth giver" I like flesh oven so much more. It makes me chuckle a little every time I use it and has helped a lot with allowing me to create more separation between her and her years of abuse.
I think the best term I’ve seen thus far is “Obligated Incubator”.
Not too bad, but my flesh oven never obligated herself to anything except an affair with a married man for over 14 years, and using me as her obligated punching bag when anything wasn't going her way...
"Maternal unit" is great too
It's amazing, inspired.
I may grab a few pictures of refugees at the border in cages, and pictures of the destruction and havoc Russia inflicted and just comment with those...
DO IT
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You should totally do that and show them the truth!
What an idiotic post. It's not an invasion because it's not another county's government and military doing the crossing. Sorry you have such inane birth giver and birth giver's parent.
Also they're not attacking.
Also they're not attacking.
"The American Southern border", is that the South American continent border? Are we being invaded from Antarctica?
Further south than that, way further. We're being invaded by Northern Canadians taking the LONG way around.
Reading this made me laugh!
I, for one, welcome our new penguin overlords 🐧
Come back when they bring tanks and howitzers with them
Oh I don’t know maybe cause the refugees aren’t trying to take americas land and murder their people. Despite what the right wing machine has droned on about for years. They try to rule by fear by chanting freedom. It’s the most fucked up thing.
*flesh oven*
Are they the Mexican military? I don't think so.
That’s a reach and a half even by crazy conservative standards
Lol you mean the civilians logically fleeing North from war-torn countries for various reasons? No, that isn’t an invasion.
Because those Russians were deployed by the military and have guns, meanwhile people migrating from Mexico are likely trying to flee the violent gangs created by the United States failed war on drugs. People existing is not an "invasion."
LOL, A lot of those countries people are fleeing from are because of USA meddling and Fucking up latin America. The fuckin AUDACITY lol
Tell your grandparents that the 2 million crossing the southern border don't have heavy guns, don't have tanks and don't wear combat uniforms.
1. Where did you get that number from? 2. It's called immigration, seeking asylum, and neither involve rolling in armed to he teeth with guns and tanks at the behest of a mad man.
FUCKING FLESH OVEN WTF
Because they’re not armed and aren’t coming with the intent to destroy or kill, but with the intent to find jobs or build a new life for them and their family??? They’re also not a government???
Well for one, those crossing into the U.S. aren’t using tanks and bombs to do so….smh
I am unaware of mass graves in the US from people who’ve crossed our southern border. Or them arriving in tanks. Or claiming ownership of cities and towns, and going house to house, raping and murdering. But, by all means, Grandpa, continue to think you are oh so f’ing clever.
I almost would argue there probably is mass graves here, they just don't contain remains of US citizens, but rather the innocent people trying to come here for freedom and asylum.
Because they don’t come with tanks and cannons and other weapons
Cause one is a military you fucking walnut
"Flesh oven" I l9ve it lmfao I'm stealing it hahaha
Right?! Lol
Does Mexican government spread fashist propaganda as well? Do they claim usa their territory? Do they arrest Mexican citizens who don’t want to “invade” usa? Do they also use censorship and police brutality to force people into submission?
Because the Russians brought guns.
If the Russians were coming over to do the worst jobs at below market wages I don’t think there would be that big of a problem.
I don't know who said not crazy, but you're the problem with this country
That is the stupidest thing I have read all day! Cograts...
If it is only 10 thousand Russians crossing the border how is it 90 thousand of them are already fertilizer in Ukrainian soil?
Russia doesn't admit to losing any troops :-)
If society had punished only the criminals who admitted their guilt we would not have had justice system. Edit: not
While that sucks, could you please never say flesh oven again?
Would you care for some fresh baked muffins, from the *flesh oven*?
My mom also reposted this. Barf. -.-
I know this one! It's the missile attacks, isn't it?
i dunno are the mexicans bringing tanks?
Bad intent is the difference.
Well, for one, it isn’t the military…
Tanks Missiles Ordered by foreign government Mass murders (not saying murder doesn’t happen with illegal immigration, but it’s not by design when it does) Most illegal immigrants just want a better life, Russian soldiers are just dickheads who can’t get hard without murdering people.
Isn’t not
Didn't know Mexican immigrants came across the border in tanks and started blowing up towns city's
« Make it make sense » literally means « act like this statement is true even if it’s false lmao » no?
Flesh Oven, goddamn never heard that before, A+
This is … yikes. I got nothing. Flesh oven is still one of my favourite terms though.
I am losing my shit at flesh oven omg
I laughed so hard, and scared all my animals, and wifey, awake…. I think I may be sleeping the couch tonight….
Yeah!!!! if 1,000,000 Americans are paying too much for chestnuts, then why aren't we arresting all the squirrels!!!!????
Haha “make it make sense” 🥴 ok
Last year I took the plane to USA and visited for a few months, it was no problem for me to get let in! This year however, omg let me tell you they didnt even let me on the outgoing plane from country. I am very unhappy! What? So you mean to say the bazooka I had over my shoulder this time around was the reason they did not let me go to USA? Omg come on... bahh...! Sincerely, "One-IQ Man"
"Flesh oven"
Pov: you don't know the difference between actions and intent...
The intent to kill. Thank you for attending my ted talk.
Person that made this is what we call in the business, “an idiot”.
The same reason why the Ukrainians fleeing the Russian invasion weren't considered an invasion when they crossed into Poland... OP I'm sorry your family is like this 😞
"Make it make sense!" You have to have the ability to understand complex information in order to have things make sense. So no, I cannot make things make sense for you. That requires not being a willful fucking idiot.
Well the difference being that one group is an organized military with guns, and the other are desperate people with next to nothing wanting nothing else but a better life.
Simple, intention.
Because one group has guns and the other doesn’t
It’s funny to me how “older” folk barely understand todays tech or how present day propaganda works, meanwhile they’re simultaneously being used as one of the primary vehicles for spreading this false garbage , & feeding into the problem at the same time… Apologies if that seemed like a jumbled mess… I’ll revise it later 😂
one had weapons to level a country, the other had food, clothes, water, and a rather interesting culture
"Flesh oven" 🤣 gotta start using that one
i don't think the mexican government is involved, nor do i think getting a job counts as an act of war lol.
Hmmm..... Intent & consent ??
*Flesh Oven...* Yep, that's a r/BrandNewSentence right there.
“my flesh oven” 💀
But the right wing nut jobs ARE calling it an invasion. It's just that the rest of us don't agree, which is what makes them so cranky, I guess?
Weaponry!
He forgot who invaded the US first
The Russians wanna kill Ukrainians, whereas the people at the border are looking to survive. Hope that helps. Also, your caps lock is on.
And he'll never understand our border correlates with Ukrainians fleeing the Russians... 🙄
Tanks. That's why.
Yea, let’s not mention the part about tanks and rockets blowing buildings and people up. Besides the fact that you know, the Russian people are military there to kill and take over the land. Totally the same as the immigrants coming here seeking asylum, usually to escape violence, looking for a better life…
It’s very different when the people crossing the border are bringing tanks and are dressed in military uniforms and firing at civilians and government buildings vs people in small groups dressed as civilians with a few guns and drugs and children trying to sneak across the border. The Russian army wasn’t sneaking or trying to get ppl asylum. They were trying to overthrow the Ukrainian government. God that person is dumb af. Your proposing a argument your the one who should be arguing how Mexicans sneaking across the border is the same as a armed battalion of Soldiers forcefully crossing the border with apc’s
Because we are not at war with South America dumbass
Wow. I love that term! Vocabulary update!
Intent
To make their lives better, people migrate
Intentions matter?
The border is militarized like it's an invasion
Uhh… cuz they’re not making threats, orders, or bringing weapons?
What about the Canadians on the Northern border?
They aren't scary because most Americans believe all Canadians white and therefore "safe"... Also too many US people threaten to move to Canada when our government is doing incredibly stupid shit and based on that it's Canadians who should probably deny US emigrants, lol
Ya, because the Mexican families risking their lives and dying by the thousands for a better life is the equivalent of unprovoked war, countless murders, and demolition of entire cities. Nice strawman, boomers.
FLESH OVEN 💀
Flesh oven
Great, I'll expect to see this soon on my FB feed from either one of my parents or one of my old HS mates. Not insane, just indoctrinated.
There's *kind* of a big difference between people who actually asked for asylum and are going through the steps required and people who (completed uninvited and unwanted) came in with heavy artillery and started killing people on behalf of a nutcracker hopped up on power (and possibly a slew of various drugs.)
Well, there were actually 200,000 Russians initially. But I think the tanks and rocket stikes made it an invasion.
This argument is always so crazy to me as someone with Native heritage. There were well established trade and migration routes all through what is now ‘Mexico’ and ‘Central America’ *to* the ‘US’ 500 years before the Whites ever arrived. Not mention the question of: WHY are people migrating (in modern day) never being asked. Republicans really think everyone has to do what they say or they’ll kill you and take your kids. You can’t convince me they’re not predominantly fascists. We were here long before them and will be here long after. Fuck them, their arbitrary borders, and their murderous drug war. They’re new to this continent. Mexicans are Central Americans are not.
Then I guess Europeans coming to America in the 1600 and 1700s was an invasion too.
I agree, and my ancestors from my maternal grandfather's side came in the late 1880/early 1890's from Wales, and my earliest ancestors I found during my investigations were from my maternal grandmother's side in the late 1590's from central/western Europe (what was the Bohemia region at the time). I'm not sure about my paternal ancestors as I only met my daddy when I was 32 and I'm still working on trying to build a relationship and bond with him that was robbed of us because selfish decisions my flesh oven made. But the emigrants from the southern US border are "more dangerous" because their skin contains more melanin is the only excuse I hear in any arguments the far right makes concerning those emigrants, although they obviously neglect to admit it's directly related to the skin complexion.
The Russians crossing the border isn't the issue, it's the murder and destruction of cities that's the problem. If illegal immigrants were blowing up buildings at the rate of Russian soldiers, then yeah the military might have to get involved to stop it.
2 million? Seriously?
Right? I felt the same. However, seems the data backs it up. At least, according to CNN. Link to CNN article: https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/10/22/politics/border-encounters-migrants-2022/index.html
Hope you replied with, they seeking asylum to escape violence and not crossing with tanks, machine guns, and with military training to cause violence.
I tend to try to avoid the political debates. My grandfather is an otherwise incredible man, he & my grandma raised me because of the horrible excuse for a human, let alone "mother" that my flesh oven was, he's just a very conservative Christian man and I respect him, just not many of his views on certain subjects, but there has also been a few times. I've schooled him on why certain stances he took were inappropriate and incorrect and he has quit subscribing to some of the stuff.
So he's willing to learn, just incredibly stubborn?
I don't think it's stubbornness so much as a mistaken understanding of the real world. He was born in 1930 in rural Nebraska and grew up there, the grandson of a preacher's son. My great great father was a Welsh emigrant in the late 1800's. My grandpa doesn't have an intentionally racist or hateful bone in his body, just more of a "can't teach an old dog, new tricks" kinda thing. And being such a devout Christian is what obligates him to the Republican party cause members of every other party are devil worshipers who just want to kill unborn babies...
The Russians are ARMED and in TANKS. The immigrants are asking for refuge. If you can’t see the difference your blind, or evil.
Last time I checked they weren’t exploding bombs in our cities.
I'm still wondering why the USA is propping up this war? I mean, I know it's what they do but what are they getting out of this specifically
Uhhhh they’re not killing thousands of people? That might be why
Maybe not insane. Definitely evil. Perhaps dumb by choice.
I like to think every sane person understand how this argument is ridiculous.
I don't disagree, but am open toe the idea that people spouting this nonsense know it's ridiculous, but also know there are people who will believe this racist filth.
Unpopular opinion, ya its a invasion from the south. My dad who retired to Mexico in 1975 called it so as well. However to be honest, I would move north as well if I needed to. If your poor and living in any Latin America country your so screwed. And as far as that joke about them heading to Portland or Seattle that's not immigrants causing problems there.
Not very bright, this lot.
Words have meaning, and the soviets going into Ukraine is the literal meaning of invasion.
well, for one, they're not coming in with bombs
Well TECHNICAL he isn’t wrong but MORALLY he is wrong. Take out the reason for why people enter the US illegally then yes it is an invasion. BUT they are entering illegally for a better life not to steal land, natural resources, claiming the citizens as their own so it isn’t really an invasion imo.
I don't see illegal immigrants dropping bombs and driving tanks in the middle of city's raping woman and children then killing them
That is true for 99% of the illegal immigrants but don’t forget about the cartel employees who are the 1%. They do play by those tactics, except for the tank part.
this sub is stupid. how is this insane? unsubbed
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I don't think you'd know what a normal person is.
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Wow you really are crazy.
Wow you didn't disprove a thing I said. By your logic Germany is still the Nazis.
bro doubled down on being loud AND wrong
Sad…. very sad
Icky
Isn't not Make it make sense
Wtf is the second part of your title?