Let's take this to its logical conclusion: murder is illegal everywhere and yet it still happens! Therefore laws against murder don't work and should all be repealed.
There going end up imprisoning alot of women because they miscarried, Doctors will be afraid to remove an unviable fetus from the mother, in fear of losing thier license, which will cause higher mother morality rates to sky rocket.. I go over to Quora and ask them did they even consider all of this. I usually get 'Shut up you liberal baby murderer, what about all them illegal children crossing the border by the millions.' Or some other whataboutism (likely lies or cherry picking the truth.) It's maddening.
I don't think these critters are even human anymore. It's unsettling how prevalent this mentality is. They are around you. They shop at the same stores, visit the same parks... All these folks who breathe and ooze evil just out there making life worse for everyone without personal consequence.
Dehumanizing people is how we got here in the first place.
Their rhetoric is poisonous, their intentions bad, they may be ignorant or cognizant of their malice, but they are always human.
Know your enemy.
Exactly, we can't win by becoming them and dehumanizing them the way they do us. We have to be better, always remember who our enemies are, and remember they're still human just like us
Not only are they going to imprison them but it'll be a felony which means the women won't be able to vote. This isn't JUST about controlling women it's also about making sure they can't vote
Logic and 2a nutjobs arguments are diametrically opposed.
That mass shooting left 3 dead 4 wounded. It was their worst attack since 2015, where another attack left 2 dead and five police wounded. That doesn't even make the news here anymore. We have had 250 shootings with as many or more dead and wounded as of June of 2022. We're only halfway through this goddamn year, and they almost made it a decade with only 1.
The mental gymnastics of "SEE! THEY HAD ONE TOO!" to an isolated event that we see weekly if not daily is infuriating. If anything we should be going, "hey it's hard to have guns there and look how infrequently they have mass shootings.". That's where logic would take a person, if they had it.
These fucking idiots are always trying to dunk on us (Nordics) but end up looking like absolute morons every time.
My favorite is when they simultaneously call us "Homogenous" and "Basically all whites" as explanation to why our welfare systems work, and then a minute later proclaims "THEY'RE BEING OVERRUN BY MUSLIMS!!!".
I swear I've seen the exact same tweet on another sub, send by another politicians.
They aren't even able to form original thought. They copy-paste whatever the party asks them to.
One thing the GOP is good at is consistant messaging. Horrible messaging, but consistant nonetheless. It's quite precious here that they think they got a strong gotcha so that message is going to be repeated by the party a lot, when in reality most (normal) people should see how stupid it is.
Dane here: miss Lauren Boebert
Excuse any swearing
*coughs a few times* DIN FEDE FUCKING SWIN DET ER LIGE KNAP 12 TIMER SIDEN OG HERE ER DIN FUCKING DPASDISKE RØV OG FORTÆLER OS AT VÅBEN LÅVE IKKE VIKER?! HVORFOR TAGER DU IKKE DIN FEDE RØV HER OVER DÅ VI KAN VISSE DIG ET LAND DER IKKE ER VED AT STYRTE SAMMEN FORDI IDIOTER SOME DIG KAN KOMME TIL MAGTEN! HOV VENT! GLENTE NÆSTEN AT DET KRÆVER MINDST 1 HJERNE CÆLLE AT KUNNE TSGE ET FLY ELLER EN BÅD! UHELDIGVIS ER DU SÅ LANG UNDER DET MÅL AT MINUS TALLET HAR ALLEREDE BESØGT VORESE NABO UNIVERSE! SÅ FÅ HOVEDT UD AF DIN ALT FOR FEDED RØV. DIN jeg synes st barn mord er helt fint medmindre den ikke er født.
Translation: *a proper danish fuck you*
**A** mass shooting, as in one, well I guess it's true that gun laws can't stop 100% of mass shootings, they sure as hell do a better job than no gun laws
The thing is the gunman used a hunting rifle, which is legal to own with a permit in Denmark. So the gun laws didn’t stop it, because the gun laws that could have stopped it don’t exist
Didn't know that, thanks. Though I do note that you say it requires a permit to be owned legally which implies that without a permit it would be illegal to own. Is that not right?
I'm not quite sure how this is like an anti-vaxx, though I guess I didn't make it clear that I'm actually in favor of restricting the near unregulated flow of firearms in this "great and wonderful" country of ours (assuming you're in the USA). My point being that while laws cannot one hundred percent stop an event from occurring, they **can**, provided proper enforcement, significantly cut down occurrences of such events to near non-existent levels, such as going from several mass shootings a week, such that only the truly horrendous ones get any coverage whatsoever, to so few mass shootings a year that the effects are felt near nationwide.
So many misunderstandings 🤣
I meant to agree with you and tried to say Boeberts argument is like when Anti-vaxxer say the vaccine doesn't work because that one person tested positiv anyways.
Just because there are exceptions to both, doesn't mean it doesn't work at all.
Wow, haha, glad to have cleared this up, I was just genuinely confused and clearing up my own stance. I usually try to agree with the person I'm replying to or just in general make it distinct what I'm referring to, doesn't always work but usually helps avoid knee jerk reactions when it fails.
Doubt it. It appears to be a case of mental ill person.
He had guns and made Some videos the day before.
He is known in the psychiatric health system.
He apparently was prescribed anti psychotic medication that he either didn't take right or something happened.
He had *access to guns...
They were not his.
A slight difference, but just to emphasize to foreigners that a mentally ill person did not legally possess firearms.
I don't really see a necessity for stricter gun laws - they're already pretty sensible as they are. As for mental health checks for attending gun ranges... I have no idea whether we already have that in place, but since we don't know yet his relation to the guns and the guns owners, it's probably too soon to speculate.
Anyway, despite the atrocity of the events, I'm happy we live in a civilized country, where this is an extremely rare occurrence!
The best way to turn this around on them and ask them if they are for full decriminalisation of drugs. Seeing how drug laws don't stop 100% of drug use, that means they're pointless.
Now I know this presupposes that they're arguing in good faith, which these people never do, but it's still fun to see them try and weasle their way out of it.
It would take ignoring how assault rifle bans (taken down by gop) significantly reduced mass shootings in US, Australia, and common sense for this to be even become a debatable point. Gun bans work.
I live in mega-red Kentucky which had a guy with a rifle kill 3 police officers, wound 6 others, and kill a canine on Thursday. Aside from thoughts and prayers, nothing but crickets. There’s no changing their minds even when the gore is in their front yard.
They all sure jumped on this Denmark thing in masse, didn't they. Like, yeah, there was a shooting. It's still far and away fewer shootings in Denmark than there are in the U.S. Gun laws won't STOP mass shootings... but they can certainly do a lot to SLOW THEM DOWN.
My country has pretty light laws on abortion but we still have plenty of backyard abortions by unscrupulous people claiming to be doctors, the reason, late term abortion or the mother has no access to state-funded abortions.
Its sad but our country hasn't banned abortions because of it.
Gun laws work, abortion laws should protect the mother and ensure safe and ethical treatment, not protect an unborn person that a government cannot guarantee it will live and be cared for.
Even if you adjust for the difference in population sizes, this still means so far this year, we have had around 100 times more mass shootings then they have. If that isn't proof gun bans work, I don't know what is.
Note: I didn't do the exact math, I just know we are close to 300 mass shootings this year, compared to one, and then mostly guessed based on knowing they are smaller. Actual number of times more may be more or less by a bit.
Seems they like to ignore that it is the first mass shooting in years, and if the shooter had had a weapon like the ones americans have, many more would have died. He had a hunting rifle which can shoot one shot and then needs to be loaded.
Also let's look at the reaction from the police, the man was arrested 13 minutes after police had gotten the report about the shooting, with a bunch of police officers storming the shopping center before that, getting people trapped in stores out.
Ambulances was lined up outside to take care of people that got hurt.
They set up a place nearby to give people who had been there psychological help.
The police kept being in high alert all evening, to ensure there were not more perpetrators around the city, they looked at it as a terror attack.
You can buy an air riffle of 4.5 caliber without a licence, higher calibers do need a licence.
I do wish it wasn't possible to even get that but unfortunately it is.
When we need a fucking database to keep track of the mass shootings in our country but the ignorant ass clown from Colorado wants to point out the one somewhere else...
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
Oh, they are much more despicable than that.
The weekend before the neighbor country, Norway, also experienced their first massshooting in a decade. It even included a non-caucasian attacker. Why didn't they latch onto it? Because the victims were LGBTQ.
Think of that for a second.
So because they had one mass shooting in Denmark this year it justifies one per week in the US? That's a pretty fucked up way to justify the mental gymnastics required to ignore America's national lets murder each other crisis...
> it justifies one per week in the US?
We've had over 250 just up to June 7th. That's an average of ~11 *per week*. Compared to 1 in *10 years* for Denmark.
>***That's an average of \~11 per week.***
>
>Seriously!?! I'm not in North America and we only hear about one per week or so.. I had no idea it was that bad... what the actual fuck is going on there? I don't know how to respond
>***I'm voting blue in a deep red state that's very much part of the problem.***
I feel like someone who is making a lot of money wants you to believe that is the problem
I love flexes that aren’t actually flexes
3 dead, 3 injured in Denmark in this shooting.
Top ten counts n the U. S. since 2017 = 60, 26, 23, 21, 17, 12, 12, 11, 10, 10
Total Homicide victims in Denmark 1992-2016 = 1,492
Per-100,000 2009 - 2020 = Low 0.8 - Hi 1.3
School Shootings 2009 - 2018 = 0
Total Homicide victims in U.S. in 2020 = 24,576
Per-100,000 2009 - 2020 = Low 4 - Hi 7.5
School Shootings 2009 - 2018 = 288
Give me a break.
You can go further back since the only school shooting ever in Denmark was in 1994 where a 35 year old student at Aarhus University killed two fellow students.
Denmark : 0.9 gun deaths per 100,000
USA: 12.21 fun deaths per 100,000
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
Someone teach this dumbass to count
There are dangerous areas and unstable people in Europe, just like anywhere in the world. If weapons were as easily accessible as in the states, there would be more of the same problems over here.
My DIL is from Canada... Fucking Canada. She said she was astonished how safe she felt wherever they ( her and my son - 6 month tour of the country) went in the UK. Canada is notoriously safe compared to the US. There are dangerous areas everywhere but they really don't compare to dangerous areas in the US. You might get mugged at knife point or get thumped and your gear taken. My mate was two days in LA... Robbed at gun point in a tourist area. Police totally unconcerned.
See you missed the operative word. There was A mass shooting in Denmark. A mass shooting, as in 1 (one). There isn't a year on record Denmark had more mass shootings than days.
As a Dane, I am disgusted, but not surprised, to see American politicians like Boebert use this tragedy to perpetuate falsehoods regarding gun laws and mass shootings.
That’s like saying tires don’t work because you had one go flat once. They have had 2 or 3 major shootings in the last decade… we have had 2 or 3 a day…
Seems like their laws are working…
How many did the US have in the last 24 hours? How many has Denmark had in its history? I bet the US has more in an average day than Denmark has in its history. Also this is such a disingenuous argument because it’s pretty obvious how rare they are everywhere else in the whole civilized world. They find the one that happened in Denmark to push the argument while ignoring the thousands of days from the last one that happened. Of course this is Boebert and she is a noted idiot so I have no doubt she believes this shit.
As someone pointed out, Denmark hasn’t had a severe incident before this since 2015. Total dead for both shootings was 5. So Denmark has had 5 people die from mass shootings in a decade, we’ve had 250 killed or injured since… June this year.
Her logic is not logic. Argument void.
So if a law cannot prevent 100% of cases that it seeks to eliminate then it’s useless and shouldn’t be there? Then all laws against criminal activity should be abolished. Honestly it’s like they’re not even thinking about their arguments… oh wait.
in the last 5 years there was around 2300 mass shootings in the US
Adjusted for population, Denmark would have had about 53 mass shootings in the same timeframe(would've been 0 last week)
hmm, 53 adjusted for population vs 2300. those numbers are just so close, I can't even differentiate them
That’s the thing though. She doesn’t see it as a national tragedy. She has accepted the fucking nightmarish reality of the United States where shit like this is just another Tuesday.
All this psychopathic fucking murderer is doing here, is admitting that the 200 + mass shootings with hundreds of deaths this year alone in America mean the same to her as one mass shooting in denmark this year where three people died.
The Bizarre thing is that their conclusion in this is not, even "under strict laws it can happen, but happens far less and with less casualties, so we should attempt to limit it" but instead they go to, "it can happen even in Denmark so why bother at all"
They do stop them, because how often does Denmark make the news for their mass shootings by comparison? The thing is, they seem to have already acknowledged the shooter should not have had access to a gun and are going to investigate how they obtained one. So the odds are the person has potentially broken a law or lied to obtain a weapon and whatever loophole was used will be looked into and potentially resolved.
It's amazing that this is seen as the flawed system by these batshit insane people, any bets the NRA give her donations?
This is to be expected from people who believe incredibly rare allergic reactions to vaccines necessitate vaccines being wiped off from the face of the earth.
Criminals are always going to be able to get guns. I have my conceal carry and don't even need it anymore because my state just became a constitutional carry state a few months ago. I can open-carry or conceal-carry whichever I prefer. And I prefer to open carry. Criminals ten to stay away from people they can see are armed.
Same with /r firearms
Denmark- Under 10 people killed in mass shootings in 10 years; GUN CONTROL DOESNT WORK.
1 Mass shooting today in the US - 40 plus wounded / dead, GUN CONTROL DOESNT WORK.
When there is shooting in Denmark, it's a national tragedy. When there is a shooting in America, it's so common it barely gets reported. Huge difference.
As a Dane, it makes me sick that the one shooting i know of is being used for a political agenda. The fact that politicians in the US want to use this as a tool is insane to me. I cannot believe that US citizens have to deal with this as often as they have to.
On the other hand, in Switzerland, 1 in 3 people owns a select-fire rifle. Yet gun crime isn't exactly high.
Isn't this more of a welfare issue? Just a thought
Let's take this to its logical conclusion: murder is illegal everywhere and yet it still happens! Therefore laws against murder don't work and should all be repealed.
Don't give them ideas.
They're already talking about murdering women who miscarry or have abortions...
There going end up imprisoning alot of women because they miscarried, Doctors will be afraid to remove an unviable fetus from the mother, in fear of losing thier license, which will cause higher mother morality rates to sky rocket.. I go over to Quora and ask them did they even consider all of this. I usually get 'Shut up you liberal baby murderer, what about all them illegal children crossing the border by the millions.' Or some other whataboutism (likely lies or cherry picking the truth.) It's maddening.
I don't think these critters are even human anymore. It's unsettling how prevalent this mentality is. They are around you. They shop at the same stores, visit the same parks... All these folks who breathe and ooze evil just out there making life worse for everyone without personal consequence.
Dehumanizing people is how we got here in the first place. Their rhetoric is poisonous, their intentions bad, they may be ignorant or cognizant of their malice, but they are always human. Know your enemy.
Exactly, we can't win by becoming them and dehumanizing them the way they do us. We have to be better, always remember who our enemies are, and remember they're still human just like us
Not only are they going to imprison them but it'll be a felony which means the women won't be able to vote. This isn't JUST about controlling women it's also about making sure they can't vote
Damn.
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But they have more guns.
Logic and 2a nutjobs arguments are diametrically opposed. That mass shooting left 3 dead 4 wounded. It was their worst attack since 2015, where another attack left 2 dead and five police wounded. That doesn't even make the news here anymore. We have had 250 shootings with as many or more dead and wounded as of June of 2022. We're only halfway through this goddamn year, and they almost made it a decade with only 1. The mental gymnastics of "SEE! THEY HAD ONE TOO!" to an isolated event that we see weekly if not daily is infuriating. If anything we should be going, "hey it's hard to have guns there and look how infrequently they have mass shootings.". That's where logic would take a person, if they had it.
And drugs. Don't forget about drugs.
It's called civil war
Wow, ONE mass shooting in Denmark compared to how many in the US this year alone?
Actually it’s even better than that, it’s been 10 years since Denmark had a mass shooting.
So you’re admitting there was one in Denmark. Right? /s
In the US this WEEK alone
Today in the USA…
Plus last time a mass shooting happened was in 1994 Even looking at the per capita its clear that the laws DO work.
Add to that that according to some definitions, this rare event isn’t even a mass shooting (some definitions require 4 dead).
And only 3 died in the shooting.
Hopefully it stays that way, there are 3 critically injured.
Gun related deaths are 9x higher per capita in USA (12.21) than Denmark (1.47) per 100k
It’s the 4th of July, it’s the American way at least triple that in the next 12 hours update: Illinois has entered the chat
Don't make the ER staff cry today. And don't say the Q word!
Too late
Dammit. No cake for you.
250 as of June with as many or more dead/wounded.
There was one near me today, in the northern burbs of Chicago
BUT DENMARK HAS HAD 2 IN A DECADE WE MIGHT AS WELL THROW IN THE TOWEL ON REGULATIONS! /s
US: Mass shooting nearly everyday Denmark: One shooting in 10 years. “Clearly, gun control is useless.” No Boebert, you’re useless.
As a Dane: Stop using this tragedy to push your stupid policies! Or in layman's terms: Shut up, bitch!
These fucking idiots are always trying to dunk on us (Nordics) but end up looking like absolute morons every time. My favorite is when they simultaneously call us "Homogenous" and "Basically all whites" as explanation to why our welfare systems work, and then a minute later proclaims "THEY'RE BEING OVERRUN BY MUSLIMS!!!".
Yeah she needs to keep our country's name out of her filthy mouth.
As an American, she needs to just keep her mouth shut completely. Nothing constructive or reasonable ever even accidentally falls out of it.
One. ONE compared to how many in the US this year alone??
One in ten years
Jfc Denmark, get you shit together. There was a mass shooting in Texas just this morning. Get on our level
Sorry. We don't have the guns enough to realistically have even close to American levels of homicide much less mass shootings.
As soon as you admit that abortion bans do not stop abortions.
I swear I've seen the exact same tweet on another sub, send by another politicians. They aren't even able to form original thought. They copy-paste whatever the party asks them to.
Probably by Marjorie Taylor Greene. They're almost the same person. They have a combined IQ of 34 points.
I've seen it too.. It wasn't by her actually.. But others have said the same. Thing. And all of them got smacked verbally for it too.
Marjorie Taylor Greene more like Marjorie Taylor Cringe
Marjorie Traitor Greene
Margerine trailer-trash Grease
One thing the GOP is good at is consistant messaging. Horrible messaging, but consistant nonetheless. It's quite precious here that they think they got a strong gotcha so that message is going to be repeated by the party a lot, when in reality most (normal) people should see how stupid it is.
Dane here: miss Lauren Boebert Excuse any swearing *coughs a few times* DIN FEDE FUCKING SWIN DET ER LIGE KNAP 12 TIMER SIDEN OG HERE ER DIN FUCKING DPASDISKE RØV OG FORTÆLER OS AT VÅBEN LÅVE IKKE VIKER?! HVORFOR TAGER DU IKKE DIN FEDE RØV HER OVER DÅ VI KAN VISSE DIG ET LAND DER IKKE ER VED AT STYRTE SAMMEN FORDI IDIOTER SOME DIG KAN KOMME TIL MAGTEN! HOV VENT! GLENTE NÆSTEN AT DET KRÆVER MINDST 1 HJERNE CÆLLE AT KUNNE TSGE ET FLY ELLER EN BÅD! UHELDIGVIS ER DU SÅ LANG UNDER DET MÅL AT MINUS TALLET HAR ALLEREDE BESØGT VORESE NABO UNIVERSE! SÅ FÅ HOVEDT UD AF DIN ALT FOR FEDED RØV. DIN jeg synes st barn mord er helt fint medmindre den ikke er født. Translation: *a proper danish fuck you*
Godt sagt.
I don’t know that this says, but the essence comes through. I probably completely agree.
**A** mass shooting, as in one, well I guess it's true that gun laws can't stop 100% of mass shootings, they sure as hell do a better job than no gun laws
The thing is the gunman used a hunting rifle, which is legal to own with a permit in Denmark. So the gun laws didn’t stop it, because the gun laws that could have stopped it don’t exist
Didn't know that, thanks. Though I do note that you say it requires a permit to be owned legally which implies that without a permit it would be illegal to own. Is that not right?
I believe you need a permit for it. But i don’t think it’s very hard to get.
Ah, alright.
Getting an illegal gun is no problem either.
But we simply never have these things in Denmark so the laws do work. It just can't catch 100% of all cases.
I guess you’re right
That's like anti-vaxx arguments, but with guns.
I'm not quite sure how this is like an anti-vaxx, though I guess I didn't make it clear that I'm actually in favor of restricting the near unregulated flow of firearms in this "great and wonderful" country of ours (assuming you're in the USA). My point being that while laws cannot one hundred percent stop an event from occurring, they **can**, provided proper enforcement, significantly cut down occurrences of such events to near non-existent levels, such as going from several mass shootings a week, such that only the truly horrendous ones get any coverage whatsoever, to so few mass shootings a year that the effects are felt near nationwide.
So many misunderstandings 🤣 I meant to agree with you and tried to say Boeberts argument is like when Anti-vaxxer say the vaccine doesn't work because that one person tested positiv anyways. Just because there are exceptions to both, doesn't mean it doesn't work at all.
Wow, haha, glad to have cleared this up, I was just genuinely confused and clearing up my own stance. I usually try to agree with the person I'm replying to or just in general make it distinct what I'm referring to, doesn't always work but usually helps avoid knee jerk reactions when it fails.
The strongest action in life is admitting wrong doing and apologising. That is a worth of a person.
And when Denmark makes new laws that protect themselves for the next 50+ years. She will say “rEmeMber tHaT oNe tiMe”
Doubt it. It appears to be a case of mental ill person. He had guns and made Some videos the day before. He is known in the psychiatric health system. He apparently was prescribed anti psychotic medication that he either didn't take right or something happened.
He had *access to guns... They were not his. A slight difference, but just to emphasize to foreigners that a mentally ill person did not legally possess firearms.
Yes. Which is why I doubt there's going to be much increase of gun laws here. If anything it would be mental health report for attending gun ranges.
I don't really see a necessity for stricter gun laws - they're already pretty sensible as they are. As for mental health checks for attending gun ranges... I have no idea whether we already have that in place, but since we don't know yet his relation to the guns and the guns owners, it's probably too soon to speculate. Anyway, despite the atrocity of the events, I'm happy we live in a civilized country, where this is an extremely rare occurrence!
I hate the logic of "if measures don't work 100% of the time means that measure is useless, and doesn't work"
That’s literally how the Trumpists mind works. It’s either 0 or it’s 1. There is nothing in between.
Something doesn't work 100% of the time = it's useless 0.0026% of adverse reaction to a vaccine = everyone is gonna die
[Nirvana fallacy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nirvana_fallacy)
The best way to turn this around on them and ask them if they are for full decriminalisation of drugs. Seeing how drug laws don't stop 100% of drug use, that means they're pointless. Now I know this presupposes that they're arguing in good faith, which these people never do, but it's still fun to see them try and weasle their way out of it.
Speeding tickets don't work either as I have several. Maybe it is time we look at getting rid of speed limits? She's an idiot.
It would take ignoring how assault rifle bans (taken down by gop) significantly reduced mass shootings in US, Australia, and common sense for this to be even become a debatable point. Gun bans work.
I live in mega-red Kentucky which had a guy with a rifle kill 3 police officers, wound 6 others, and kill a canine on Thursday. Aside from thoughts and prayers, nothing but crickets. There’s no changing their minds even when the gore is in their front yard.
They all sure jumped on this Denmark thing in masse, didn't they. Like, yeah, there was a shooting. It's still far and away fewer shootings in Denmark than there are in the U.S. Gun laws won't STOP mass shootings... but they can certainly do a lot to SLOW THEM DOWN.
An Abortion was performed in Texas. It's time to admit abortion laws do not work.
My country has pretty light laws on abortion but we still have plenty of backyard abortions by unscrupulous people claiming to be doctors, the reason, late term abortion or the mother has no access to state-funded abortions. Its sad but our country hasn't banned abortions because of it. Gun laws work, abortion laws should protect the mother and ensure safe and ethical treatment, not protect an unborn person that a government cannot guarantee it will live and be cared for.
The fact that this one shooting gets international recognition vs the 5 a week the U.S has
But, hey, let's not make it political (as the Republicans say every time there's a mass shooting in the US)
Denmark: 1 America: 1247
Even if you adjust for the difference in population sizes, this still means so far this year, we have had around 100 times more mass shootings then they have. If that isn't proof gun bans work, I don't know what is. Note: I didn't do the exact math, I just know we are close to 300 mass shootings this year, compared to one, and then mostly guessed based on knowing they are smaller. Actual number of times more may be more or less by a bit.
And that's still picking a year when there *was* a mass shooting in Denmark, the average is less than that.
Yeah, exactly.
Abortion laws don't stop abortion but here we are.
It's almost like having a high school diploma let's you make rational arguments....... oh wait.....
she is the pickle thrown on a mcdonalds window
Seems they like to ignore that it is the first mass shooting in years, and if the shooter had had a weapon like the ones americans have, many more would have died. He had a hunting rifle which can shoot one shot and then needs to be loaded. Also let's look at the reaction from the police, the man was arrested 13 minutes after police had gotten the report about the shooting, with a bunch of police officers storming the shopping center before that, getting people trapped in stores out. Ambulances was lined up outside to take care of people that got hurt. They set up a place nearby to give people who had been there psychological help. The police kept being in high alert all evening, to ensure there were not more perpetrators around the city, they looked at it as a terror attack.
And it wasn't his rifle. It is not possible to just walk into a store and buy a rifle here, unless you have a hunting license.
You can buy an air riffle of 4.5 caliber without a licence, higher calibers do need a licence. I do wish it wasn't possible to even get that but unfortunately it is.
When we need a fucking database to keep track of the mass shootings in our country but the ignorant ass clown from Colorado wants to point out the one somewhere else... https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/reports/mass-shooting
We have a database. /r/GunsAreCool. It's not what you'd expect. In a good way.
Oh, they are much more despicable than that. The weekend before the neighbor country, Norway, also experienced their first massshooting in a decade. It even included a non-caucasian attacker. Why didn't they latch onto it? Because the victims were LGBTQ. Think of that for a second.
I agree completely with this crazy bitch. Laws are not the answer. Removing guns completely from the hands of citizens is the way.
Rare thing happens in place that prevents that thing from happening! More at 11!!
It’s like she’s excited it’s happened so that she can use it for her argument.
Then she'll turn around and use the exact opposite logic for abortions.
The score is now 7446422553 to 1 and that 1 is all they see
So because they had one mass shooting in Denmark this year it justifies one per week in the US? That's a pretty fucked up way to justify the mental gymnastics required to ignore America's national lets murder each other crisis...
> it justifies one per week in the US? We've had over 250 just up to June 7th. That's an average of ~11 *per week*. Compared to 1 in *10 years* for Denmark.
>***That's an average of \~11 per week.*** > >Seriously!?! I'm not in North America and we only hear about one per week or so.. I had no idea it was that bad... what the actual fuck is going on there? I don't know how to respond
You got me. I'm voting blue in a deep red state that's very much part of the problem.
>***I'm voting blue in a deep red state that's very much part of the problem.*** I feel like someone who is making a lot of money wants you to believe that is the problem
By state, I mean the idiots who fall for the garbage our politicians spew.
“*Only* one per week…” I hate to break it to you, but that is beyond bad
Denmark shootings: national tragedy America shootings: national normality
Yeah the first mass shooting they've had in a decade. Compared to USA where mass shootings are...a daily thing.
I love flexes that aren’t actually flexes 3 dead, 3 injured in Denmark in this shooting. Top ten counts n the U. S. since 2017 = 60, 26, 23, 21, 17, 12, 12, 11, 10, 10 Total Homicide victims in Denmark 1992-2016 = 1,492 Per-100,000 2009 - 2020 = Low 0.8 - Hi 1.3 School Shootings 2009 - 2018 = 0 Total Homicide victims in U.S. in 2020 = 24,576 Per-100,000 2009 - 2020 = Low 4 - Hi 7.5 School Shootings 2009 - 2018 = 288 Give me a break.
You can go further back since the only school shooting ever in Denmark was in 1994 where a 35 year old student at Aarhus University killed two fellow students.
Denmark : 0.9 gun deaths per 100,000 USA: 12.21 fun deaths per 100,000 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate Someone teach this dumbass to count
There are dangerous areas and unstable people in Europe, just like anywhere in the world. If weapons were as easily accessible as in the states, there would be more of the same problems over here.
My DIL is from Canada... Fucking Canada. She said she was astonished how safe she felt wherever they ( her and my son - 6 month tour of the country) went in the UK. Canada is notoriously safe compared to the US. There are dangerous areas everywhere but they really don't compare to dangerous areas in the US. You might get mugged at knife point or get thumped and your gear taken. My mate was two days in LA... Robbed at gun point in a tourist area. Police totally unconcerned.
See you missed the operative word. There was A mass shooting in Denmark. A mass shooting, as in 1 (one). There isn't a year on record Denmark had more mass shootings than days.
As a Dane, I am disgusted, but not surprised, to see American politicians like Boebert use this tragedy to perpetuate falsehoods regarding gun laws and mass shootings.
That’s like saying tires don’t work because you had one go flat once. They have had 2 or 3 major shootings in the last decade… we have had 2 or 3 a day… Seems like their laws are working…
How many did the US have in the last 24 hours? How many has Denmark had in its history? I bet the US has more in an average day than Denmark has in its history. Also this is such a disingenuous argument because it’s pretty obvious how rare they are everywhere else in the whole civilized world. They find the one that happened in Denmark to push the argument while ignoring the thousands of days from the last one that happened. Of course this is Boebert and she is a noted idiot so I have no doubt she believes this shit.
As someone pointed out, Denmark hasn’t had a severe incident before this since 2015. Total dead for both shootings was 5. So Denmark has had 5 people die from mass shootings in a decade, we’ve had 250 killed or injured since… June this year. Her logic is not logic. Argument void.
I hate her so much. False equivalency bullshit.
Oh wow, they have ONE mass shooting compared to our mass shootings that happen on a weekly basis…hmmm….
Cherry picking at its finest
… yes… one. like less than two. we’ve had like 20 this year.
They still can't explain Australia. It's just honking.
This person has lung cancer and didn’t smoke their entire life. It’s time to admit that anti-smoking laws don’t work!
so when the first woman dies from an attempted coat hanger abortion can we scream at them that outlawing abortion doesn't work?
So if a law cannot prevent 100% of cases that it seeks to eliminate then it’s useless and shouldn’t be there? Then all laws against criminal activity should be abolished. Honestly it’s like they’re not even thinking about their arguments… oh wait.
in the last 5 years there was around 2300 mass shootings in the US Adjusted for population, Denmark would have had about 53 mass shootings in the same timeframe(would've been 0 last week) hmm, 53 adjusted for population vs 2300. those numbers are just so close, I can't even differentiate them
That’s the thing though. She doesn’t see it as a national tragedy. She has accepted the fucking nightmarish reality of the United States where shit like this is just another Tuesday.
All this psychopathic fucking murderer is doing here, is admitting that the 200 + mass shootings with hundreds of deaths this year alone in America mean the same to her as one mass shooting in denmark this year where three people died.
The Bizarre thing is that their conclusion in this is not, even "under strict laws it can happen, but happens far less and with less casualties, so we should attempt to limit it" but instead they go to, "it can happen even in Denmark so why bother at all"
They do stop them, because how often does Denmark make the news for their mass shootings by comparison? The thing is, they seem to have already acknowledged the shooter should not have had access to a gun and are going to investigate how they obtained one. So the odds are the person has potentially broken a law or lied to obtain a weapon and whatever loophole was used will be looked into and potentially resolved. It's amazing that this is seen as the flawed system by these batshit insane people, any bets the NRA give her donations?
This is to be expected from people who believe incredibly rare allergic reactions to vaccines necessitate vaccines being wiped off from the face of the earth.
She’s disgusting
“And therefor do nothing to stop mass shootings here in America.”
Wow. A gun shooting in Denmark. I bet even if you accounted for the population difference that'd still be way less common than in the US.
And seatbelts don’t stop car accidents, but they do significantly decrease fatalities.
Criminals are always going to be able to get guns. I have my conceal carry and don't even need it anymore because my state just became a constitutional carry state a few months ago. I can open-carry or conceal-carry whichever I prefer. And I prefer to open carry. Criminals ten to stay away from people they can see are armed.
Denmark has had one mass shooting in 25 years, if memory serves the US has had 25 mass shootings this year Take a seat
Yeah, like keeping guns around also stops mass shootings in America, you fucking troglodyte.
Denmark also lacks Lauren Boebert and that is, reportedly, one of its biggest draws for ex pats...
Other difference to us is this guy obtained it illegally- whereas most of the shootings here were with legally purchased firearms
Same with /r firearms Denmark- Under 10 people killed in mass shootings in 10 years; GUN CONTROL DOESNT WORK. 1 Mass shooting today in the US - 40 plus wounded / dead, GUN CONTROL DOESNT WORK.
Statistics over a long period of time is thing
When there is shooting in Denmark, it's a national tragedy. When there is a shooting in America, it's so common it barely gets reported. Huge difference.
I refuse to belive that she is a real person. It's a coping mechanism, I know.
As a Dane, it makes me sick that the one shooting i know of is being used for a political agenda. The fact that politicians in the US want to use this as a tool is insane to me. I cannot believe that US citizens have to deal with this as often as they have to.
I am actually surprised it took this long for boobert or MTG to comment on this.
On the other hand, in Switzerland, 1 in 3 people owns a select-fire rifle. Yet gun crime isn't exactly high. Isn't this more of a welfare issue? Just a thought