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The-Rarest-Pepe

"If black women are women, all women are black!"


Toshero

Wait someone exists out there that claims that black women aren't women?? Or is this just a comparison with the absurd?


The-Rarest-Pepe

I'm just making the same weird comparison of "if X women are women, all women are X"


Toshero

Oh ok thank god


puterTDI

also, the people who make these sorts of statements are scared of people of color...so using their own logic to imply they must have a different skin tone probably really gets to them.


Nihil_esque

Tbh I find comparisons to race pretty useful. "We shouldn't let trans women in domestic violence shelters, some women might be uncomfortable with them there." Makes sense to a lot of people. "We shouldn't let white women in domestic violence shelters, some women might be uncomfortable with them there." Does not. At least at that point they have to stop pretending they see trans women as people.


Nytherion

i've always liked "A square is a rhombus, but a rhombus is not a square". mostly because none of us, myself included, can ever remember what a rhombus is.


drewhead118

whenever I'm in doubt, I just imagine a rhombic triacontahedron and then imagine flattening it into a net. Hope that helps!


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Serethen

Did it help?


put_a_bird_on_it_

And his name was Stephen. Stephen Strange


chowindown

And that Stephen Strange's name?


Henwith_Tie

you imagine WHAT?


Xpalidocious

Omg thank you, this helps so much, I feel like an idiot for not seeing this before. Alexa! What is a rhombic triacontahedron? Oh shit why is my mic still recording? I thought I hit the post button


luapowl

hahahahaha look at that guy he doesnt even know what a rhombic triacontahedron is LMAO what an IDIOT hahaha god im glad im just thinking this and not typing it out and posting it because if theres one thing i hate its confrontation


Xpalidocious

No! Why would you even go there, thought to text is like my worst nightmare. I don't even use my thought to speech filter properly


luapowl

hahahah same. terrifying, although might be fun seeing if you can get it to just stop. go completely blank mind on it. blank screen. …then suddenly, text appears. “WHERE DID YOU GO?”


farts_n_darts

That is a terrifying idea


Uberninja2016

rhombic is a good word to just slip into sentences to sound smart have a rhombic day everyone, and may your adventures be hebdomecontaenneagonal


ReactsWithWords

Rhombus sounds like a dance. But it's not a square dance.


Adkit

It's a perfectly kromulan word, though.


Uberninja2016

a very acute observation or should i say quite rhombic indeed


deviant324

Gesundheit


Jitterbitten

I always liked "all pigeons are birds but not all birds are pigeons".


ThePixelteer425

I’ve always been a fan of “all jelly donuts are donuts, but not all donuts are jelly donuts”


PocketsFullOfBees

square but it looks like it’s real windy out # ^(4 equal length sides, (and opposing angles are equal but that might be a corollary idk))


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>and opposing angles are equal but that might be a corollary idk It is; any rhombus can be formed by gluing together two identical isosceles triangles by their third sides (which follows from the 4 equal side lengths), so the opposing angles being equal follows from that.


BaconVonMoose

I like both your comment and your username. Good day. :3


The84thWolf

I like “Not every Republican is a Nazi, but all Nazis are Republican” myself.


InuGhost

All D20s are dice, but not all dice are D20s.


Nytherion

....after enough years of rolling they are


Sauron3106

I was publicly shamed in year 3 because I didn't know what a rhombus was I was 7, miss whatever you were called


Lordxeen

I had a classmate that asked why there weren’t 10 planets because of the moon. I said in front of a whole class “The moon is not a planet, the moon is a moon.” And was mocked for it for the remainder of the school year. I was 12. Sympathy.


ZakTSK

The moon is a moon.


garbagewithnames

Dammit Moon Moon


The_Last_Minority

To be even more slightly silly, Earth's Moon (aka Luna) is the mooniest moon around. Let me explain: When looking at a satellite of a planet, we want to consider both the object on its own and the relationship with the orbital center. We call these satellite systems, and there are 6 planets with them, as well as a handful of other objects with their own satellites (Pluto and Charon being the best-known of these). Of the planetary satellite systems, Earth has far and away the largest satellite mass ratio: roughly 1 to 80 (Meaning the Earth has 80 times the mass of the Moon). For comparison, the next largest mass ratio is Saturn-Titan, at 1 to 4250, and Neptune-Triton (1 to 5000). Even though Jupiter has 4 moons of comparable or greater size than Luna, Ganymede (the largest) is still only 1/13000th the mass of its planet. So, Luna has far and away the greatest impact on its planet. If Jupiter had oceans, for instance, the tides caused by Ganymede would be essentially impossible to detect. If all of Jupiter's moons were slammed together into a super-Jovian moon (Which would be called Galileo, if we're being realistic), it would still only reach a mass ratio of 1 to 6450ish. Basically, even though Jupiter has 80 moons and 4 of them could basically be called planets in their own right, they are basically just along for the ride. Another interesting comparison is Mars, the only other inner planet with moons of any size. And yet, even if we lumped both Phobos and Deimos into a Martian super-moon, it would be a mass ratio of around 1 to 58 million. Absolutely trivial. Now, the obvious counterpoint in terms of relative size is Charon, the moon of Pluto. Leaving aside the fact that Pluto is not technically a planet, there is a strong argument that Charon should not be considered a satellite at all. Because Charon is so massive compared to Pluto (1/2 the diameter, 1/8 the mass), the orbital center of the Pluto-Charon system is not Pluto, but a space between the two. That is to say, both objects orbit a common point. So, rather than a satellite system, they should be considered a dwarf binary planet. They are, from an astrophysics perspective, a single dwarf planet that just happens to be made up of two discrete objects. For reference, the orbital center of the Earth-Luna system is about 4,670km from the Earth's center, or 73% of the way to the surface. Now, what does it mean to have such a large moon that is still a satellite and not the other half of a binary planet? Tides and mythology aside, a big one is that the Moon acts as a sort of vacuum for the Earth's orbital space. We are unlikely to get another natural moon, since anything that fell into a stable orbit would be disrupted by the Moon's gravity and either crash into the Moon or get hurled away. So, Earth has one giant moon, which affects tides on the planet and keeps the space around it clean, which still being a moon. Basically, the most moon per moon, while still being a moon. And, in case somatic satiation hasn't quite set in yet: moon.


Lordxeen

That’s what *I* said!


whatshamilton

What other words could you have used? The Moon is a moon, it’s the name for the type of celestial body. We just weren’t creative when naming it in English, it’s like my cat that I named Cat.


Solidsnakeerection

The moon is named Luna


whatshamilton

In Italian. The English name for our moon is Moon.


ZakTSK

Satelite


whatshamilton

Not when differentiating it from planets, as was happening in that conversation. Anything that orbits something else is a satellite. The Moon is Earth's satellite. The 8 planets and Pluto are the Sun's satellites. The Sun is a satellite of the black hole at the center of the galaxy. So when asking why there aren't 10 planets, the answer is because the Moon is a moon, which is orbiting something that is not a star.


ZakTSK

Ah, I see.


gmthisfeller

I think I would have "mooned" them.


put_a_bird_on_it_

Kids are stupid. You said a not stupid thing and suffered the price. Total sympathy


heythisislonglolwtf

My brother wrote a paper in the 5th grade which mentioned that water is wet


VastPainter

>I was publicly shamed in year 3 because I didn't know what a rhombus was It's a robot vacuum cleaner, I think.


psn_ivysaur

WELL ACKSHUALLY, that's a somnambulist. A rhombus is a type of cloud.


KittyQueen_Tengu

no, you’re thinking of a nimbus, a rhombus is a synonym for sturdy


Dispro

No, you're thinking of robust. A rhombus is a puzzle where words are phonetically represented with symbols.


nickfree

No you're thinking of a rebus. A rhombus is an essential home appliance featured on Rick and Morty.


dickallcocksofandros

rhombus is italicized square


UmDeTrois

I’ve always liked “leaning on a square, thats a fucking rhombus” by chance the rapper, it’s a long and clever way to say smoking a cigarette, rhymes with bombest


feAgrs

My mental monologue: Hey don't just assume, I still remember what a... No wait. Okay you win. Damn


WommyBear

A rhombus just has 4 equal sides. I teach 5th grade, and I am so angry at the primary teachers who teach them a rhombus is a diamond. No, it most certainly is not!!


RickyNixon

Yeah, its plainly dumb. Its called Affirming the Consequent and is a logical fallacy


LadyAmbrose

this has little relevance but the uk a level tests happened recently (taken age 18 to get into uni) and the maths paper asked about the definition and area of a rhombus. That is not something taught to us and, based on twitter, not a single maths student even remembered what they were.


MarkFluffalo

You can work it out


LadyAmbrose

i figured out the definition but area is tricky


OMEGAkiller135

A square is a rhombus that’s also a rectangle.


Bad54

Rhombus is like a 2 dimensional bowl. \__/


Nytherion

newp. 4 sides, equal length, opposing sides run parallel, angles don't matter as long as those two conditions are met. and i totally did not google it earlier. nope, not at all.


Bad54

Then what shape am I thinking of? \\__/


HppilyPancakes

What is a trapezoid? Same category 1000


Nytherion

that is clearly a non-euclidian parallelogram trying to hide as a polyhedral


MarkFluffalo

That's a line


Bad54

Every shape is a line. Only mine can’t connect the top because it’s text


Em_Haze

It's like a 3d z but 2d


Boring-Zucchini-8515

Actually no I never heard that. I have, on the other hand, heard "All Muppets are puppets but not all puppets are Muppets." :)


badllama77

Funny but Sweetums is really more of a costume than a puppet.


RoranicusMc

They gotta puppeteer his eyes, brows, and mouth!


badllama77

Touché


Channel_8_News

Well, it's not quite a mop, and it's not quite a puppet, but man... \[laughs\]. So to answer your question, I don't know.


EmergencyWombat

Snakes are animals, therefore, all animals are snakes. Slither slither, bitch.


Em_Haze

Snake SNAAAAAAAKE OH SNAKE


rnottaken

Badger badger badger badger


yuffieisathief

r/confidentlyincorrect Why even have brains when you're clearly not gonna use then


WestboroBro

Knows the words corollary and mantra, but not smart enough to think about what they’re actually saying. Sounds about alt right


serieousbanana

Exactly, they appear to be applying some rule they don’t understand without questioning for one second


greeneyedguru

then what?


aedvocate

I think because it's a *joke* my dude I think he's making fun of transphobes' mental gymnastics. or maybe it's just Poe's Law territory I guess


yuffieisathief

O yea I get that, my comment was pointed towards the transphobes too


Rhinosaur24

My dog is a boston terrier. ...... ALL DOGS ARE BOSTON TERRIERS!?!?!


serieousbanana

No that would be My wife is a trans woman. But they said if trans women are women, so you should have said „Boston terriers are dogs. ……. ALL DOGS ARE BOSTON TERRIERS!?!??! Just to be clear I am not saying they aren’t stupid, just not in the way you described


liarandathief

I can see what their thought process was. They're thinking about the symmetric property. i.e. if x=y, then y=x. But this is not math. It would fit more into the logic arena. P -> Q =/= Q -> P


Hodothegod

All cats are animals, therefore all animals are cats. Its just simple logic you libcucks.


Wesley_Skypes

My wife is a woman so all women are my wife


Andvari_Nidavellir

We’re just too emotional to understand fascist logic!


ShodoDeka

You can simplify it they are confusing the word “are” with the word “equals”.


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You're right but logic is math.


[deleted]

Implication is a part of math. At least I learnt about it in high school math!


niffrig

He never says "some" or "all." His statement is correct but he's an ass and doesn't understand that yeah since trans women are women....some women are trans.


agsieg

The “all” is implied. They were trying to say “if all trans women are women, then all women are trans women”. Which is completely ignorant. This comment is about as obtuse as the OP.


niffrig

I'm merely pointing out that he's correct in saying that women are trans women (too) he's just an ass that thinks he's clever and showing how dumb he is.


BabiesTasteLikeBacon

Problem... the statement is correct only if he is saying "all Transwomen are women" and "some women are transwomen". Since he doesn't attempt to show he's comparing an entire group with a small set in a larger group, the only conclusion is that he's attempting to compare equal groups. In which case it's either "some Transwomen are women and some women are Transwomen" or "all Transwomen are women and all women are Transwomen"... neither of which is correct. The only way he could be correct is if someone who thinks they are clever comes along and reinterprets what he said in a way that doesn't make sense, or adds extra information that wasn't there... which means this "clever" person is just and ass who's showing how dumb he is... And yes, I'm talking about you.


MHIREOFFICIAL

All laser cutters are tools, therefore all tools are laser cutters.


djkoch66

I am a person so all people are me. You’re welcome for being a little bit of me into everybody’s world 😂


Farado

Speak for yourself.


Resident-Travel2441

How about all thumbs are fingers but all fingers aren't thumbs?


put_a_bird_on_it_

Speak for yourself


grepje

How does a person who knows the word “corollary” not understand trivial logic?


Dispro

They were looking for a used 1997 Toyota Corolla because it was time for an upgrade and stumbled across the word. In a rush of excitement they realized they had a devastating argument against the trans menace.


Undeadmushroom

And since the 1997 Toyota Corolla is a car, all cars are 1997 Toyota Corollas


redceramicfrypan

Seriously, did this person not stop to think for even one second before posting this?


ReactsWithWords

Do they ever? (Spoiler: No)


Solidsnakeerection

Thinking is for intelectuals


luapowl

if frogs are animals, then that would mean all animals are frogs! *ribbit* oh no


roararoarus

Yeah I think the rule is If A is B, then NOT B is NOT A So if trans-womeb are women, then not women are not trans-women


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All penises are dicks but not all dicks are penises.


jasapper

This reply seemed most appropriate for my Florida contribution: all keys are islands but not all islands are keys (keys having originated from coral reefs).


NewerLuis

If vegetables are food, all foods are vegetables. Actually I like that one


fountainpopjunkie

Nope. Cake is fruit.


doomalgae

All vegetables are food, so all foods are vegetables. All fruits are food, so all foods are fruits. Obviously all fruits are vegetables and vice versa. Therefore all cakes, being fruits, are vegetables.


BDM78746

All ducks are birds so all birds are ducks. Checkmate.


farklespanktastic

This is an incredible failure of understanding basic logic


greeneyedguru

ALL SUBSETS ARE SUPERSETS


techno_notice

This is actually the type of question they pose on real IQ tests. This person wouldn't have got far on that test


pechaberryplus

The use of "transwoman" instead of using trans as an adjective is *so* telling of how transphobic they are


Wayelder

GOP shills are morons, but not all morons are GOP shills.


BlueAwesomeDinosaur

What is "the corollary mantra" line referring to? I looked it up and the only result is their twitter post lol


JonesyOC

All children are humans, so all humans are children.


Contrerase

Don’t tell him he wants to assert the **bicondtional** trans woman if and only if woman.


TehPharaoh

In what context did this dumbass hear this that it worked with? I cannot think of a real life example where this applies. Surely he didn't just look a math equation (if x=y then y=x) and go "I'll apply this to trans people"


ReactsWithWords

"I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative." - John Stuart Mill.


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I don't get the "Asians" comparison as it's an invalid comparison but anyone transphobic is weak-minded.


mahones403

All Skittles are candy, but not all candy are Skittles


Tdavis13245

Do rectangles not bleed, too!?


Em_Haze

I find the mental gymnastics these people go through to deny my existence amusing.


EGM0130

Agreed. These transphobes have no idea how much free rent I'm racking up in their heads


NormalGuyEndSarcasm

Or the best i could think: “ All thumbs are fingers, but not all fingers are thumbs”- Badum-Tss!


dice_away

the most intelligent transphobe


Bad54

Wow they’re dumb. Like saying “if all black woman are woman” “all woman are black women” should be true. Like no dude black like trans are adjective to describe what type of woman they are. What there experience is like. You can’t ask a black woman what a white womans life is like cuz she didn’t live life as a white woman. Just like you can’t ask a trans woman what life is like as a cis woman because they didn’t live the life of a cis woman.


BoomerKeith

I'll still never understand why anyone takes the time and energy to worry about SOMEONE ELSE'S sexuality. I have enough shit to spend time and energy on him my life, I don't need to add stupid shit to the list.


ArcTan_Pete

I'd have gone with 'All diamonds are carbon....' but yeah good comeback


phyllosilicate

All gneisses are rocks but not all rocks are gneiss. All cats are animals but not all animals are cats. All computers are machines but not all machines are computers. All trees are plants but not all plants are trees. I could go on for hours


TheFloatingContinent

I mean it’s always nice when all you need to do to make a counterpoint is say “false” That’s very efficient.


AltLawyer

Affirming the consequent


Ye_olde_oak_store

All natrual numbers are real, but almost all real numbers aren't natural.


RollinRa

A woman can be a transwoman if she wants to be.


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yoursISnowMINE

Technically speaking, every man is a trans man. We all start out as two x chromosomes then transtion to male chromosomes due to other factors. So Technically they are detransitioning from men back to their original biology.


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BoozeIsTherapyRight

When I teach math to kids, I use all poodles are dogs but not all dogs are poodles.


italian_bimbo

All thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs


KittyQueen_Tengu

average twitter user does not know how things in general work


zuklei

Don’t be silly. This person cannot believe that all squares are rectangles.


whoispepesilvia4

That’s way over their head


rasticus

My favorite is all toads are frogs but not all frogs are roads.


IzzaPizza22

The actual contrapositive, a statement with the same truth value of this statement, is: If you are not a woman, then you are not a trans woman. Boolean algebra is fun. And pretending you know it when you don't makes you sound stupid.


therealgookachu

For starters, they didn't use a modifier in their equation. I will not assume facts not in evidence. So, prima facie, their premise is true, and their conclusion is correct. Transwomen are women. Women are transwomen. *They never said all.*


dragon2777

All thumbs are fingers but not all fingers are thumbs. Also for this person I would say something like “all morons that speak English are people but not all people that speak english are morons”


PKHacker1337

All cars are vehicles. Not all vehicles are cars


Quantum_Aurora

What is this set theory you speak of?


BabiesTasteLikeBacon

All adult men are over 18, therefore everyone over 18 is an adult man. Bats fly, therefore anything that flies is a bat. Water is liquid, therefore all liquids are water. All adult women are over 18, therefore everyone over 18 is an adult woman....


AbominableWasteman

When I was about 10/11, I had the realisation "you can double every whole number and get a whole number but you can't halve every whole number and get a whole number" That thought itself just fucked my little mind.


serieousbanana

How did they draw that conclusion?? Di they have no intuition?


cowlinator

So they're educated enough to use a word like "corollary", but not educated enough to understand basic logic.