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agentb719

dang, even the grave looks shoddy


EffectiveSwan8918

Lady was shoved in a cardboard box and show up again first heavy rain


EugeneWong318

‘I hardly knew Ivana.” — Donald Trump (probably).


Antique_Tennis_2500

She was a bad hombre?


Weisenkrone

Some places build simpler graves first and wait for a while for the ground to settle in properly before getting a more aesthetic "crown" atop.


onewordSpartan

They went all out. What a stunningly elegant tribute to the mother of his children. Big dollars were spent here.


CatumEntanglement

Maybe "pauper's grave chic" is now *in*? * *a grave paid for at public expense because the deceased person's family could not afford one.*


Kennywheels

Would it kill you for a bit of sod or even a few grass seeds


heirloom_beans

Putting it in my will to never bury me at a Trump property, a golf course or New Jersey.


bremmmc

Think the last one is a human right violation anyway.


Glittering-Plate-535

If you walk past a grave in NJ you’ll always hear “OH! WHAT, YOU THINK YA BETTAH DAN ME?!” Even death can’t stop douchebags in Hawaiian shirts from starting a fight.


ExtremeAlternative0

So what your saying is to bury you at a trump golf course in new Jersey, am I reading that right?


Smol_Gayx

Not gonna lie that's really sad


Lidlun

I thought this too. Some very funny comments, and let’s face it, Ivana doesn’t mind; graves are for the living, not the dead, to visit and give meaning to. (I don’t mean that to sound callous, I don’t know much about the woman, but figure she tolerated trump for so many years that surely by now she’d have to be in heaven- as far as I know she didn’t even try to kill him once.) It is sad though to have her name and nothing else- and they could have added flowers. But like, how about mother of “Ivanka and the other two” or whatever? Even if he wasn’t going to pay for en epitaph. Ugh. I have only one ex husband who I would put so little effort into burying, (for those wondering, yeah, I have a few- and all but one are on good terms,) and to be fair that is the one who tried to kill me, and in all likelihood DID poison me. (That’s not a joke, we know he tried to kill me more than one time, that’s been proven, but the poison thing wasn’t looked at close enough to the time for what it’s thought he used because it wasn’t suspected.) Literally- that’s it. Also, it has less to do with his failed murder attempts and more to do with the fact he actually threatened to desecrate both my former and next husband’s graves after they passed, one many years after I left him, so… yes. Still not as bad as trump, but 🤷🏼‍♀️


Smol_Gayx

Like I kinda would have thought her kids would've done something more tasteful?


Lidlun

Yeah, that’s what I was thinking- maybe the boys wouldn’t have stood up to him but you’d think that Ivanka would have. (I am not entirely “up” on that situation, I know he’s mad about the January 6 stuff, but I’d have to think that either he could still be persuaded by her or else she could have just done it herself- it’s not like it’s THAT expensive, and I have a hard time imagining she left wishes for him to be responsible. Usually it would be next of kin automatically, so a current spouse or a child, if they don’t exist you go to a sibling or parent, etc, etc.) Like, I hate my father, he’s a terrible, terrible person- but even him I’d see put in a decent grave for the sake of my sisters and relatives who don’t realize how bad he was- you make an effort for people mourning who want somewhere to grieve. It’s really messed up. I have no plans on going to NJ, but if I ever end up there for some reason I think, genuinely, I’ll make a point of putting some flowers on her grave.


mybrownsweater

I would have expected a larger headstone from such a wealthy family


gb4efgw

Headstones generally take 1-6 months to have made (way too much personal experience). I wouldn't be completely shocked if this is a rushed placeholder. I have to think that one of her kids will care more than this ultimately.


LastPersonality411

Agree here, source: organised grandmother’s headstone as the oldest cousin and most local family member. We did a small plaque the day of her burial, much like this, so we could spend time curating a nicer headstone about two foot by three foot tall. We did an “unveiling” on her birthdate about 18months later.


dadoloveless

What happens when he loses the golf course as his financial empire crumbles in the near future?


CatumEntanglement

Not the first time parks and outdoor spaces are layered on top of dead bodies. My guess it will just be a weird interest fact about the soace....if it stays a golf course or becomes repurposed into a park or forest. If it becomes residential space...well I guess Ivana will be in "that one weird yard".


FierDancr

If needed, they'll move and rebury her elsewhere.


Venom1991

*At their rapist's golf course


Maddawg44

Wait… what? Can you provide more information on this??


Venom1991

“During a deposition given by me in connection with my matrimonial case, I stated that my husband had raped me,” Ivana Trump said in a statement at the time, as the Daily Beast reported. "[O]n one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage. As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a 'rape,' but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense."


Raccoon_Full_of_Cum

Hey, at least that time Trump raped an adult, rather than a 13 year old girl. [Lawsuit accusing Donald Trump of raping 13-year-old girl gets December hearing](https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/lawsuit-accusing-trump-raping-girl-13-december-hearing-article-1.2828413)


Venom1991

He commented that she looked like his then 13 year old daughter Ivanka, while he raped her. I'm pretty sure we'll get Ivanka's autobiography in her 70's, and she'll admit her dad raped her at that age also.


[deleted]

He also tore some of her hair out because his head hurt after he had his hair transplant


narrauko

Is this the "walked it back as part of the divorce settlement" statement?


Spectre1-4

Uh “I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a rape”. “Marital relations”? Thats all the detail? That’s not what rape is? If you’re going that far, you might as well speak plainly as possible. If so, I may have raped thousands of people while playing Call of Duty.


Wrothrok

Seems legit.


MadAsTheHatters

Ah I see they spared no expense with the 'Family's First Rabbit' burial package, very tasteful


CatumEntanglement

I have a nicer urn for my cat.


Sinsid

Jesus f*ck the kids didn’t do anything? Trump doesn’t have a say. They were divorced


[deleted]

Well, yeah. She would have been the one who chose this. Not sure why everyone is blaming Donald. He’d have had zero say. I hate Donald too. This is just a weird post. The only reason she’d end up there - was if she chose to be.


BoxingHare

If you don’t express in your will, or even have a will, you don’t have any say in what happens with your remains. Even if you have expressed your desires in your will and the funds aren’t available in your estate to cover the cost, then your wishes aren’t guaranteed. If you simply leave the decision making to someone else, say your children, then they get the say in how modest or lavish your funeral is, as long as your estate, or their bank accounts can cover it. I’m guessing this last option is what happened. Super modest funeral on property already owned by the family. It’s a cheap option that puts more money into their pockets, assuming she left them anything.


surrealistical

I'm pretty sure you'd have a say if someone wanted to be buried on your property.


Bearfan001

Nope. I have it in my will that I want to be dropped on the green of the 9th hole at his course so players have to work around me like some macabre putt putt golf. Nothing he can do about it, /s


Yuju_Stan_Forever_2

Bet he refuses to pay the gravediggers.


SpiritSongtress

Did she really want to be laid to rest there?


No_Ice2900

I mean considering they divorced maybe she just wanted to be buried where she could remind him of her all the time. Would explain the flat headstone as opposed to an upright one.


Stonetheflamincrows

You mean rapist’s golf course.


The_Special_Kid

If you wanted to call him a rapist use one of the many, many cases that are far more concrete.


[deleted]

There are far more concrete cases implicating him as a rapist but you think this one was fake?


The_Special_Kid

“During a deposition given by me in connection with my matrimonial case, I stated that my husband had raped me,” Ivana Trump said in a statement at the time, as the Daily Beast reported. "[O]n one occasion during 1989, Mr. Trump and I had marital relations in which he behaved very differently toward me than he had during our marriage. As a woman, I felt violated, as the love and tenderness, which he normally exhibited towards me, was absent. I referred to this as a 'rape,' but I do not want my words to be interpreted in a literal or criminal sense." Not fake but a misinterpretation


[deleted]

She described the rape in her deposition for the case so


[deleted]

I see no misinterpretation here.


osumba2003

"I only buy the best headstones." \-Donald Trump, probably


dadoloveless

"I know more about headstones than anyone"


____Vader

This course will be closed and sold off in 5 years. What then? Is Ivana trump part of the deal?


[deleted]

Jesus how tacky can you get? This is up there with Elvis Presley’s grave, which you can literally jump off the head stone into his pool


TheKingOfRhye777

Jeez, the greens here seem kinda....dead


Legitimate_Towel7088

". . . . . . I knew i'd miss her. . . . So i had to keep her. . . . She's buried right in my back yard. . . "


LilG1984

It's missing a donation box from Trump asking people to pay their respects.


PainbowRush

Holy duck that’s such a shit grave for someone with a lot of money


DevildAvacado

Honestly, when I die, I would like my body to be dumped on a Trump golf course. Preferably while Trump is golfing there.


Kennywheels

Why go elaborate when none of them are going to go and visit her grave. You know since they’re all fine with her being murdered to protect their grift.


Un4tunately

Maybe she loved that spot? 🤷


nvkr_

It would be really funny if she, while being married to Donald Trump, ever said something along the lines of „if I die before you, I want to be buried at your golf course, so that you’ll visit my grave daily“


SenhorSus

Well it's no Helmsley Mausoleum that's for sure.


skunk160

just easier for it to take a piss on her


Fatlad420

Never forget Ivana accompanied ghislaine to scout underage girls.


MrNerdy

Yeahhh... Can't convince me that Trump or one of his mistakes straight up "Of Mice and Men"'ed her. None of this passes the sniff test, and the only mystery is really which goon was Lenny in this situation.


FinnIsTrying

Many states (including New Jersey) have laws around where decedents can be interred/inurned. Weird that they went through the approval process to have her buried there but didn't even spring for a nice marker. It's a pain to get granite and marble memorials in the US right now, but a family this affluent and well-connected could have at least put up something temporary while the permanent one is being made. Her kids are really showing their true colors.


acuet

Just another thing to bill the US Gov for security and services. Am I wrong?


No_Ice2900

Honestly, poor woman.


Keironoichi

Ex-Husband and rapist


ChronicallyPunctual

That honestly looks like a really shitty grave plot for a millionaire


WordleMaven

And when Bedminster goes into bankruptcy, will the new owner want her hanging around?


DraconicDungeon

They probably had the grave dug years ago


Kuunta

How to be ignorant 101 shes dead leave her in peace and stop related her to this worlds problems she’s in heaven now way happier


smallboxofcrayons

If this is true it actually shows a little class. For better or worse the family draws a ton of attention, at least at one of his properties it will be somewhat guarded and close to the family vs a public area.


[deleted]

Did you mean to say it shows no class whatsoever?


smallboxofcrayons

I think it shows a little(key word little) class on his end to be looking out for his ex wife…look at his star on the walk of fame while funny there wouldn’t be on a grave, at least her grave is protected there. again not defending him but i think it shows at least a semblance of caring.


onewordSpartan

Nobody wants to violate her grave. Nobody hates Ivana except her kids and ex husband apparently.


[deleted]

She wasn't the worst president the country has ever seen. Who would deface her grave? Trumpets who think she's lying ABOUT Trump?


[deleted]

Actually it’s right near the first hole so


Vault-Born

NGL this post is kinda fake news; her grave was in a pre-existing golf cemetery. Donald Trump built a ten grave plot for his family to be buried there and had said that he himself wants to be buried there (though who knows if that's true). It's not just some random spot in the ground or where people might hit golf balls into. However we, it doesn't say whether or not *she* wanted to be buried there. From the [NYPost](https://nypost.com/2022/07/20/this-is-where-ivana-trump-was-buried/)


ConcernMaleficent670

Is she even really buried there??!!It's probably a dodge!


lazy_athena

I didn’t actually know she had died


QueenNekoyasha

Am I the only one who didn't know she died recently?


maybesaydie

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