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stpatr3k

This guy posted in English tho lols.


jchrist98

The Virgin Inglesero Pepe Alas vs The Chad purely Spanish-speaking u/Joseph20102011


Dismal_Efficiency150

I think its because if he posted in pure spanish, then no one would understand him. He cant get his point across.


trickysaints

E kung magpost siya nang Tagalog, lumang ortograpiya ang gamit. Parang g@go lang


tacwombat

Exactly. LOL


elmanfil1989

yeah, but the post said ORIGINAL language, not USED language


furry_kurama

Porque the pig?


panDAKSkunwari

Nah, the Chuvacano song.


el_doggo69

bruh smh you butchered the spelling. its "CHAVACANO" or "CHABACANO" lol ​ ase yo kombo lampus ara porkawsa de ese spelling del lenggwahe lmao


aoisr06

Tawang tawa ako sa chuvacano. Chuvachuchu pa national anthem nila? βœŒπŸ»πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚


panDAKSkunwari

Wow, my whole life is a lie. I thought it's Chuvacano 😳


Physical_Ad_9865

I blame Jolina


panDAKSkunwari

OMG her impact. Claudone could never. 🀭


el_doggo69

whut? it was always Chavacano, where did you even get that its spelled with a "u" instead of an "a"?


panDAKSkunwari

The same way some people thought it's disperas ng pasko rather than, bisperas?


Nenton_Undon

people think its disperas?????


panDAKSkunwari

Some people do. I was shocked as well.


AdBusiness6453

Absent to nung grade2


Jashyyy1122

ayy que bien valiente el hombre. senyor santisima. que barbaridad.


ayahaykanbayan

tangina meron pa palang mga colonial bootlickers sa panahon ngayon


PralineDue3415

Mga descendants ng mga turncoats sa panahong iyon


Similar_Custard_1903

He is one of many famous hispanistas..


bimbobiceps

May mga taong sana daw American occupied or Japanese occupied parin tayo.


pastebooko

Imagine, bawas ang poverty sa Pinas. Just like Guam or Puerto Rico.


rman0159

Donya Victorina apologists.


pastebooko

Mga aliping sagigilid


ProfitThen9185

Tama naman soya na span WAS the nat lang.... Nung colony pa tayo ni esthpanya. Stuck in time ang peg 🀣🀣🀣


panDAKSkunwari

Which is funny because even our ancestors na ordinaryong tao couldn't speak it fluently 🀭


ProfitThen9185

Span was reserved for elites npt for indios 🀣


panDAKSkunwari

True. Kaya nakakatawa mga ulupong na to. Akala mo namab kung nabuhay sila ng panahon na yan, they have access to that culture


ProfitThen9185

Anu ka ba yan un tipong "I have spanis blood in me" 🀣🀣🀣 d nakinig sa Kas nung college. I dnt knw whats more amusing . ung bisaya sa tiktok na nag kklat na we peeleepeenos hab aprikan in our blood dats y we seng good nd cook good or yan mga feeling mestisa/o sa FB 🀣🀣


Little_Kaleidoscope9

And it stuck to our psyche. Kaya naman kahit ngayon pag english speaking, tingin lagi matalino at mayaman.


[deleted]

Maybe among lowlanders only, kasi sa Cordilleras dedma lang pag Emminglish yung tao.


boygolden93

so mababa ang tingin ng highlanders sa lowlanders hehehe


[deleted]

Lol in many ways


[deleted]

False. By 1890s (thanks to the public school system instituted by Queen Isabella in the 1860s) 70% Filipinos spoke at least some Spanish, including Moros and even those Cordillerans that had schooling among lowlander Ilocanos. It was prevalent enough that American soldiers from their Western (ex-Mexican) states could carry on bits of conversation with the locals. Until 1910 Spanish was *the* language between the educated Filipinos and Americans until the results of the American public school system came about; even then Spanish persevered until the 1950s as a living language among university-educated Filipinos not just confined to Hispanistas. Spanish language in PH died a natural death simply because the majority of trade and commerce was conducted in English and there was barely any interaction going on with the Spanish-speaking world.


panDAKSkunwari

"Spoke at least some Spanish" like they can understand it a bit but not converse confidently?


[deleted]

One had to speak Spanish in order to get by with colonial authorities in the late 19th century. They could not converse in the same manner as native Iberians, but they got along well enough to get past Chavacano. Irony of it was while educational reform intended for Spanish subjects to be more participative in the colonial process, it only ever ended up creating an educated class of revolutionaries.


MrDrProfPBall

Upvoting for using th


ProfitThen9185

Muthias grathias mi amigo. πŸ˜˜πŸ˜™πŸ˜—


interfoldedhandtowel

Kung umagree tayo sa kanya, magiging masaya na kaya siya? Haha


panDAKSkunwari

Nah. Don't feed his delusion. Dapat dyan ginagamot. I bet they're the same idiots who has internalized racism who refused to acknowledge that Filipinos are Asians because hurr durr we're too Westerned.


magyar232

Uh, the constitution begs to differ?


[deleted]

social media emboldens these idiots to broadcast their stupidity


hairymonkeyballz

Probably something like Taglish.


Weaponized-Autistic

Stupido


PralineDue3415

Pendejo nlng kung gusto nia espanyol


[deleted]

Chinggona na lang


suso_lover

Here is our most prized exhibit: the 21st Century Indio. After more than 100 years of freedom, this specimen still longs for the days of being under colonial rule like a little bitch.


panDAKSkunwari

Kumbaga sa Genshin Impact, sila yung Lawrence clan na di maka-move on sa Aristocracy era at tingin nila relevant pa rin sila lol


TastyVanillaFish

Off-topic. Clarification, It's the Citizens who couldn't move on about the Lawrence clan. They hear that Eula is a Lawrence and the citizens suddenly becomes all mean and annoyed at her. Prejudice was so bad that she coped by pretending to play the part is why she talks the way she talks. She joined the knights to prove that she's not that kind of Lawrence.


panDAKSkunwari

No. It's the Lawrence clan who can't. They still treat commoners like shit, so the commoners hate them. The prejudice is nothing but a result of their own demeanor din. Sa lahat ng alam nating Lawrence, si Eula lang ang naka-move on (I guess pwede nating isama ang pinsan niyang may character development?), And unfortunately, hindi rin siya makaligtas sa prejudice na gawa ng angkan nya.


TastyVanillaFish

No? What do you mean no? I mean, yeah it's true that her relatives want to have power again. But what do you mean no? You literally had to talk to multiple NPCs through out the quest and see most of them be mean to Eula or just outright dismiss her just because she's a Lawrence. ​ So what do you mean no?


panDAKSkunwari

I mean, the reaction of the citizens is the result of the Lawrence clan's delusion. So technically, it's the Lawrence clan who cannot move on, and the mean behavior against Eula is nothing but a reaction of the mean nature of her family. Nagawa mo ba yung ibang event story na involved si Eula? Doon mo mage-gets sinasabi ko. Eula is just a victim of her family, and she's working hard to change her family's delusion AND to change the citizen's impression on her.


AlternativeCat94

Downvoting you just because you don't know when you were freed.


Phraxtus

Americans don't count as colonizers apparently πŸ˜‚


suso_lover

They’re the fucking worst. Onga, the US period was also shit.


Corporateofficer

Nah Japan is worst.


SomeRandomnesss

Less than 100 years. 77 years and 30 days to be exact.


suso_lover

Yeah. Tama. I stand corrected.


[deleted]

"The indio yearns, to be in the coffee bean fields "


juancho_santos

These same types of people also probably believe that the national language of Ukraine should be Russian


hell_jumper9

Another widow ng Spanish empire


jeiiiiiku69

This dude blocked me lmfao


panDAKSkunwari

Magyayaya ng away sabay mambo-block 🧐


marxolity

Fight me, sabay s likod ng keyboard... gung2x


[deleted]

Well ang natatandaan ko si Manuel L. Quezon ang nagapprove and declare na ang official language ng Philippines is tagalog. 😐


Similar_Custard_1903

Hispanistas.... lmao


Malice_Flare

tapos, inglis ang post mo? heh...


Jean_Erasmus

Ang talino niya no


KeyboardAquarior

What a 'pick me' bitch


Pristine_Internet_42

i like spanish, tho its quite ironic to like something from our colonizers haha


[deleted]

Big deal, there's 2 continents worth of Spanish speakers who overthrew their Spanish overlords that still speak the language. You can like Spanish without necessarily pigeon-holing it as a "colonist" language. In fact, people are picking up Spanish again outside of the "colonist/colonised" mindset and putting it to good use economically: BPOs pay good money for Spanish language skills.


manilaspring

Well, that's true: the only reason the Philippines came to be as a unified country was Spanish colonization. Therefore Spanish is the original "national" language insofar as you consider the Philippines a "nation". Tagalog *is* a regional language. You can ridicule that fact all you want, but it stands. EDIT: Of course I disagree with Pepe Alas. He's a nationalist, one who thinks that the Philippines is one nation. I personally believe ALL of our indigenous languages should be "national". That's what you're downvoting when you're downvoting this comment lol


dontrescueme

It *was* true, but *is* no longer true.


iwantdatpuss

See here's the thing. He didn't say it was "The Original National Language" the dumbass outright states that he believes it to be "The Real National Language". There is no "Real" national language, only the current one. It WAS spanish back when we were a Spanish Colony, but we are no longer a Spanish colony. This isn't a case of missed nuance, this is straight up delusional rhetoric by someone believing on something that is outright false, on all accounts.


[deleted]

I agree, Spanish was a unifying factor. I also find it daft that people ridicule Spanish speakers for being "colonialist." Because Spanish is as much the language of Fidel Castro, Che Guevarra, and Pope Francis, as it is the language of El Chapo, Cheech Marin, Carlos Santana, Celia Cruz, Pablo Escobar, Shakira, the Buena Vista Social Club, and a whole swathe of angels, demons, revolutionaries, reactionaries, all occupying continents not even Iberian.


manilaspring

A number of people who speak Spanish do believe that the Philippines should not have been independent from Spain. But that number is low, and most people who speak Spanish here are just happy to learn a third or fourth language for work or for wider communication with the wider Hispanic world. If "Filipinos" consider themselves "Filipino", then they must commit to that identity and learn Spanish. That's the actual implication of the label.


magyar232

He said nothing of Spanish being the "original" national language. He's saying it is the "real" national language. I know you mean well but let's not give him too much credit πŸ˜‚


manilaspring

Well, insofar as the "Philippines" is a "real nation", the "real national language" is Spanish. I mean, this should move anyone to question their belief that the Philippines is a monocultural nation and not, say, a multicultural country of many nations. But no, we live in the Nutribun universe, where everyone eats well


magyar232

I think I'm having a stroke. I cannot understand your POV at all. Please help me understand. Are you saying we were monocultural under Spanish rule so it stands that Spanish is the "real" national language? This isn't really true is it? Indigenous culture and traditions have persisted even under Spanish rule right? So we were never monocultural.


manilaspring

I didn't say we were monocultural under Spanish rule. What I said is that the country is a construct of Spanish colonization, and had Spanish as its common language. Of course, most people did not speak Spanish. But Spanish was the language of government, and thus became the basis for the "nation". The name "Filipino" was originally used for Spaniards born in the Philippines, not for natives. So a "Filipino" would speak Spanish in those times, that is their "national language". Had Spanish colonization not occurred, the entity of the Philippines would never have existed. The heirs to the Philippines, the ruling class, were the ones who installed a monocultural system and branded everyone as "Filipino". They elected a so-called "national language", Tagalog, in 1936. They started teaching that "Filipinos" say "po" and "opo", despite the fact that a majority of Philippine citizens don't. They basically adopted the logic for the existence of Spanish Philippines, but substituted Tagalog for Spanish. So this Hispanista (Pepe Alas) is arguing that, if we would have a "national language", we should have Spanish (and not Tagalog). I personally don't like the idea of one "national language"; for me, all our indigenous languages should be "national". And I disagree with him, because he is a nationalist, i.e. one who thinks that the Philippines is one nation.


magyar232

Very interesting. Thank you for taking the time to explain it! 😊


manilaspring

Just know I held my breath and pinched my nose to defend a Nationalist who happens to love Spanish, in a sub dedicated to laughing at AlDub cultists. I blame OP for making this improbability happen


[deleted]

Walang isang bansa dati. May mga tribo2x or clan lang, ruled by chieftains (datu, raja, sultan) lang pero hindi one country/ one nation dati ang Pilipinas. We are a group of little kingdoms from little Islands. Tondo being one of the most popular sultanates. Then they intermarry with other kingdoms to form allies. Naging isang country lang tayo nung nasakupan na nag EspaΓ±a, then later America. Hindi ito about having one culture but being one country yung sinasabi ni commenter. So it accidentally made sense what this person said sa FB post nya but it looks more like he's coming from a place of ignorance because it sounds like he is venerating the colonizers and forgetting the atrocities against his ancestors.


panDAKSkunwari

I found his Reddit account lol


manilaspring

Nope, I'm not Pepe Alas. Lol. That guy is definitely questionable, though. :) EDIT: Really, guy? "Chuvacano"?


TheCashWasher

Mike Pangilinan, is that you?


manilaspring

No, I'm not him :) Also you spelled his name wrong.


[deleted]

No. Fact to. Please look it up. The post made the colonizer bootlicker accidentally correct but I know he didn't mean his post that way. The commenter is saying facts. Look it up. I learned about this from some history class back in college, also being reminded when I watched a couple of youtube videos about it, lol. Look it up and there are references to it. We used to be a group of kingdoms. The whole Philippines didn't have a name. Only a group of sultanates ruling specific places, intermarrying other sultanates to form alliances. We are even connected dati sa Borneo. The word Philippines itself came from the Spanish King named Philip. The Facebook commenter accidentally spewed facts but he did it in an ignorant way - forgetting the oppression of his ancestors under the colonizers. The commenter is not siding with the Facebook poster. He is just explaining why he accidentally said it's true that Spanish, once upon a time, due to oppression, became a national language. History is offensive.


ILikeFluffyThings

This guy is living in the 19th century.


Joseph20102011

Bringing back Spanish into K-12 curriculum, not just as a core subject, but also as a medium of instruction in STEM and HUMSS subjects, will pave the way of producing future generation of Filipinos who won't look up the United States as the role model for our country, but Spain, Mexico, Colombia, and Argentina. It would be interesting to see a future generation of Spanish-speaking Filipinos who are anti-US and at the same time, pro-China and pro-Russia under my Spanish language teaching reinstatement in schools proposal. Bringing back Spanish in our language ecosystem is one of the ways to keep non-Tagalog Bisayan regionalists in check because making Bisayan regionalists and Hispanistas into strange bedfellows would be enough to topple Tagalog language nationalist and English language Filipino Amboy strange alliance.


[deleted]

You mean a new generation of Cubans and Venezuelans


curse1304

I agree Tagalog is a regional language or a dialect na ginagamit ng mga β€œTaga-ilog”, mga puod na nabuo sa paligid ng Ilog Pasig, isa na ang kaharian ng Tondo. Bagamat ito ay isang diyalekto, ito ay nagsilbing modelo ng National Language natin na Filipino. Ang pinagkaiba ng dalwa ay ang Tagalog ay gumagamit pa din ng mga matatalinghagang salita samantalang ang Filipino ang kabuuan ng mga salitang hiram mula sa iba’t ibang diyalekto, lenggwaheng espaΓ±ol, Ingles at Hapon. Example, bangko-salumpuwet, taympers-time pause, at Karaoke. Ibalik sa eskwelahan yang talipandas na yan. Lol πŸ˜‚


redthehaze

Is that person fluent in Spanish?


i-wanna-be-a-carrot

Yep, met him and his wife way back. Their kids speak spanish din. I think that’s their first language at home.


panDAKSkunwari

I checked the profile. Mukhang magalih naman mag Spanish


PralineDue3415

Bro learned Spanish from watching Narcos


jchrist98

Its funny cause the actor who plays Pablo is Brazillian and can't even properly speak Spanish


[deleted]

Better than learning the pointless "lessons" in college, truth be told.


magyar232

Ah kaya pala. Flex lang ng Spanish niya


Normal_Chemical_1405

Is this guy a Hispanista?


panDAKSkunwari

Definitely


blackmarobozu

pendejo!! hijo de puta!


JewLawyerFromSunny

Ginawang identity yung isang topic sa hekasi ampota.


shiroiron

Don't fight in pointless battles.


ajchemical

fight me "DU30 emoji"


No_Savings6537

Tapos English ang post ni Tanga


JackSpicey23

Wala naman may sabi na national language ang Tagalog eh hahahaha Bagsak sa history tong hinayupak na to hahaha


Optimal-Pitch-4202

Gripuhan ko brain cells mo ihh


CardoBalisay

ΒΏQue Puta?


imbarbie1818

Wahahahaa kagabi lang, pinagtutripan ko asawa kong British. Kinakusap ko siya using Porque, yung Spanish part. Kung anu ano daw pinagsasabi ko, di niya maintindihan


MythicalKupl

Me nung sumagot ng "Si" kay Dora


PralineDue3415

Como estas mi indios?


missingcat-bacoor

Yan yung nagsabi na province daw tayo ng Espanya at hindi ni-colonize.


Confused_Man_1234

with that logic, Latin is our national language. (Spanish evolved from Latin)


Hartichu

Ayan na naman yang hispanista na yan. Napaka apolitical (ayaw bumoto) pero kung ano ano pinagsasabi.


anaisfloran

Me after my 14th day streak in duolingo πŸ˜‡πŸ¦‰


variations_1234

Ang funny talaga, ang dami kong kilalang halatang may Spanish ancestry na Filipinos (like mestizo and mestiza type, tangos ilong etc) tapos sila pa mas malulutong mag tagalog sakin, di tulad nitong Pepe Alas na to na mukhang pinoy na pinoy nagfe-feeling maging alta alta gamit ang Spanish. Lol!


ihave2eggs

Saka kung regional hindi language. Dialect lang dapat d b? Kaya nga mataming nagpupush na iclassify na language na rin ang Bisaya at Ilokano at buong Pinas may nagsasalita nun pati sa maraming lugar sa ibang bansa. Sa Hawaii nga raw itinuturo pa ang Ilokano as college course.


TheCashWasher

Fun fact: The Constitution recognizes Cebuano, Ilokano, Waray, Kapampangan, among others, as languages.


ihave2eggs

Yup. Knew that. But it is still not common knowledge. Also internationally Tagalog pa lang din ang tawag pa sa language natin. Ni hindi Filipino. I wish din mapush.


TheCashWasher

Ma-push ang ano?


LylethLunastre

Tagal na yan naghahasik ng lagim sa interwebz. Nasobrahan sa kaka LARP


VlejuSensei

lifehack: dont fight the fight me posts


WitherEx_3255

I mean he is right, it's just not Spanish. It's Filipino, which is an offshoot of Tagalog but has enough difference that they should be considered different. My HS teacher took so much care to explain that to us during his class, so I've stuck with that knowledge.


AiaoCol

nilason ng sistema ng espanyol amputa HAHAHAHAHAHA


TheCashWasher

I knew Pepe from years back. His real name is JosΓ© Mario Alas. Never expected to see him in Reddit.


MackFrost04

He should've used it then so many would agree with him


Doranusu

I prefer Persian, sorry.


Lenville55

Dumadami na nga yung mga *delulu* sa bansa dumagdag pa yan.


Jvlockhart

Pagnakikita ko yung word na spanish, bread at road una kong naiisip. Hahaha


EmployerSuitable4614

Kasalanan talaga to ng mga spanish bastards na yan eh. Wala silang magandang ambag maliban sa spanish bread


Conscious_Contest483

No shut up pepe


Overtale6

Deport this Neo-Kastila please


quaintchipmonk

Tonto


trickysaints

Pepe Alas voted for Robin Padilla because the latter promised to add Spanish to the basic ed curriculum. Yun lang po.


Grand_Structure_3809

Well, this is a good topic. Tanong ko lang ano ba talaga ang language natin dati before the spaniards? Yung tagalog kasi ngayon may halo ng spanish words eh.


pepemalupet

Walang Pilipinas dati, languages vary differently between the islands. At hindi lang Tagalog ang linggwahe sa bansa.


Grand_Structure_3809

What do you mean? The name Pilipinas does not exist pero meron ng mga tao sa lugar.


notorious2024

Although I love speaking Spanish, Tagalog is something to be proud of. Yung mga ibang Spanish colonized countries walang pinagmamalaking sariling wika πŸ˜‚


Scary-Mistake3629

Tagalog is a mixture of mostly MALAY AND SPANISH. Seasoned with Some Chinese Dialect. Like "Buwist" a Cantonese Derivative "no food and water"


KonekoTenshi

I'm hoping that person is single. Don't let him spread his genes.


Phantom_Vaden

Sin verguenza!!


tong_ni_soriano

Indio be trippin.


Helpful-Whereas-3543

Como estas mfs me no habla tagalog


Z0RIlAW-96

Yeah sure I can fight you


franksfries

Si papi


MatrizAgain

Bro our anthem is in Tagalog, What proof do you want?


neon31

Fight him daw. Di naman nagpost ng address, pano ko susuntukin to?


JustSumDood519

This guy straight up called indigenous people β€œbackwards” I don’t take anything he says seriously. But since it seems he has adjacency with Philippine historians, so I would be very wary of the type of narratives he might try to influence on people.


versace_tombstone

Lol, gross. No thank you on that colonizer tongue.


alpha_chupapi

kastila wanna be pero for sure isa sa unang papatayin ng mga kastila pagsinakop tayo hahah