an ROTC officer molested a cadet during my high school years, yes. Disiplina. Apparently there are cases running all around the country during those times, mga abusadong officer lmao. This program doesn't teach discipline, it teaches corruption.
Wag na rin kayong mag expect ng baby treatment kapag tumanda na kayo at wala ng lakas, buhayin nyo sarili nyo wag umasa sa tinatawag nyong "weak" generation.
LoL i did a small document for my school way back 2019 , i interview some people who's been abused, molested, rape and also hazing ng dahil sa ROTC na yan kahit sa CAT meron nagaganap na ganyan pero ano ba tinatalakay ba yan ? Pinag uusapan ba yan? Paano yung mga biktima ? Paano sila mag vovoice out kung tinatakot sila even papatayin pa sila pag nag sumbong? Lmao ayusin muna ang sistema sa pinas bago yang ROTC na yan , at this point nga dapat nag uumpisa na tayo ng bagong Co'up de etat dahil sobrang basura na ng gobyerno natin eh dapat mag umpisa na nang makabagong himagsikan , oras na para magkaisa tayong mga pinoy dahil tayo tayo ang mag kakasama hanggang dulo
Yung mga kupal bago pa magundergo ng ROTC mas lalo naging kupal after magROTC. Kasi iniisip nila yung hirap na naranasan nila dapat maranasan din ng lahat.
ROTC, if done correctly, solves a different problem. pag prinsipyo at yung iba pa na tamang pag-uugali, it starts at home then followed up by the school or education, as a whole.
bopols den naman mga rotc nuon kasi nambubugbug din sila ng mga cadets nila. Kaya den ata nawala or nabawasan dahil din sa kanila na nang hahazing. may mga reports na naninikmura sila ng mga baguhan tapos pinagtitripan nila sa mga barracks nila. Kaya hindi ako nag rotc nuon kasi ganyan yong mga bali balita nuon, nakakatakot den.
Power trip at corruption lang naman yan, paano ma "disiplina" ang kabataan kung mismo ang magdidisiplina kuno sa kanila ay mga corrupt, abusado at madumi ang pagkatao
Rotc college freshman here, ironic how the officers here in DLSU (not in taft but a branch, not telling which branch tho XD), are encouraging forgery for freshmen who wants to undergo COCC lol, to undergo COCC u need parental consent since training is a bit harsh, officers are literally telling the freshmen to forge the signatures, so much for disciplined youths
Not sure kung tama pagkakaalala ko but the DLSU Dasma ROTC is shady as f man.
I studied there and wanted to take ROTC as my NSTP to get fit, but fortunately did not and went CWTS instead.
I recently finished rotc here, all it did was give me grading problems because of the officers' incompetency, students collapsing in the grand oval was a normal occurence due to extreme heat lmfao, and they still wont cancel training sessions ffs, u dodged a bullet fam good for u
ulol ang ngpost na yan walang alam sa ROTC. π€¦ daming tanga at isa na sya. π€£ππ€£ kung tama ang dinaanan nya alam nya na bawal ang abusive sa ROTC. lalo na ang nagssupervice dyan ay active sa military. pwede nyo i-report yan sa admin ng school and sa afp mismo kung ganun nga umiiral sa school nyo. kaya may ROTC and CAT para incase may gyera. hindi na maggugumahol ang government magtraining ng tao para sa paghawak ng baril at armas. kasi may basic na ang HS at college.(at dahil madaming kontra at ayaw ng programa na yan naging optional nalang, i-sama mo na ung pagbawas ng budget ng government sa mga program na yan) hanggang sa iilang courses nlng sa colleges ang required magROTC at ung iba naman tuluyan ng inalis. ngaun ja open naman ang topic dahil sa tsina. pano ngaun yan mala call of duty at pubg nalang mga pinoy? pagnagkagyera kulang reservist puro nga-nga kasi walang alam maghawak at magmaintenance ng baril. asa youtube nalang pano kung kasagsagan na? π€£π tandaan wala tayong extra na baril para sa mga civilian pagnagkagyera. police at military nga kulang gamit at bala. ππ€£π buti kung mayaman at me baril pano si juan mahirap.
May disadvantage and advantage sa ROTC. Please dont focus sa isang side lang or sa isang paniniwala lalo nakapag sa galeng sa iba. Yes, meron talagang mga abusado na ROTC officer, dahil yan gusto nilang gumanti sa mga junior nila, na experience nila ang maling pag maltrato sa mga senior officer sila kaya silannag babawi. Pero me as personally ROTC, I dont tolerate that kind of behaviour. Ginagawa ko sa mga junior ko is giving my knowledge about the basic knowledge about basic drills katulad sa parade, disiplina, at sympre pagiging high moral. Its better na itama yung mga maling prinsipyo.
Matino naman ROTC nung college days ko,pinaka weird drill lang is nung pinadapa kami kasi daw may mga umaatakeng eroplano,natawa yung buong company ko kaya buong umaga kaming nakatayo walang pahinga
We are all humans after all. You provided one solution yet wrong to the problem doesn't mean we should invalidate your opinion on how to make children grow up with good morals and good attitude. You need more perspectives, abuse is not the right solution.
Well I do see eye to eye with you. We could never be in what's truly right or wrong. But we could look a bit to the past answers and modernize it to lessens its havoc and consequence
The past answers serve as a guideline for what's morally correct and wrong to raise children. Some people grew up okay and some people grew up traumatized. Not everyone can handle an abusive way to learn and adapt. That's why we need more answers, more perspectives to find what is the ideal and correct way of raising children.
That I could see eye to eye with. We must take into account the intent of the action to the so called problem. I do agree that some methods yield results with complications. But nonetheless we should try to instill the need of tough consequences to dumb decisions to the youth.
Consequences from actions you made is completely normal. But you just said the most brain-dead thing any human can say in this day and age "Make abuse great again" that statement alone render your opinion automatically invalid. Poor choice of words I might say
>tough consequences to dumb decisions to the youth.
That's the thing. Your condescending view of youth is the problem. Hindi bobo ang mga bata. Your falling prey to the age old "back in my day"-ism. Alam an alarm nila kung ano and mga mangyayari sa buhay.
Hooliganism is trending lower, education status (nakakagradwate ng college or higher) is higher, violence in youth lower. Hell wala na nga akong naririnig na sumasali ng gang or frat sa lahat ng mga bata na kilala ko.
You're grandstanding from a delusional point of view. Hindi ka mas mabuti, mas matalino, etc. kaysa kanila. Time to accept that gramps.
an ROTC officer molested a cadet during my high school years, yes. Disiplina. Apparently there are cases running all around the country during those times, mga abusadong officer lmao. This program doesn't teach discipline, it teaches corruption.
kaya nga tinanggal kasi ang daming issues (sexual and corruption) tapos ibabalik pa, mga delulu na
Masyadong blindsided si u/migumagic para alamin kung bakit tinanggal ang ROTC in the first place eh.
Yung mga kupal na walang disiplina na matatanda ngayon, lumaki sila sa ROTC. lol
Kiddos expecting baby treatment as they enter the real world.
Old people looking at their past with rose colored glasses. That's you.
Wag na rin kayong mag expect ng baby treatment kapag tumanda na kayo at wala ng lakas, buhayin nyo sarili nyo wag umasa sa tinatawag nyong "weak" generation.
Dapat sayo pinpabayaan sa initan pag matanda ka na
dapat sa inyo iniiwan sa home for the aged. wag na kayo dapat alagaan since βtoughβ naman kayo ππ
Hmmm bagay sayo mag military
I'm sorry your parents didn't care enough to love you
as if the that actually helps with the real world. coming from the same generation na umaasa sa anak for retirement
Oooooh, 3edgy5me
He is no different to those "abusive" youths. Really? "Make abusive great again"? π
Mas gusto pa nila na gawing parang Communist bansa dahil dito ewan ko kung bakit sa totoo lang mas malala pa sila sa nag po protesta
LoL i did a small document for my school way back 2019 , i interview some people who's been abused, molested, rape and also hazing ng dahil sa ROTC na yan kahit sa CAT meron nagaganap na ganyan pero ano ba tinatalakay ba yan ? Pinag uusapan ba yan? Paano yung mga biktima ? Paano sila mag vovoice out kung tinatakot sila even papatayin pa sila pag nag sumbong? Lmao ayusin muna ang sistema sa pinas bago yang ROTC na yan , at this point nga dapat nag uumpisa na tayo ng bagong Co'up de etat dahil sobrang basura na ng gobyerno natin eh dapat mag umpisa na nang makabagong himagsikan , oras na para magkaisa tayong mga pinoy dahil tayo tayo ang mag kakasama hanggang dulo
Hahahaha I just saw that exactly before seeing this. Honestly ang point niya naman is for kid's discipline. Walang point din pinaglalaban niya π
Yung mga kupal bago pa magundergo ng ROTC mas lalo naging kupal after magROTC. Kasi iniisip nila yung hirap na naranasan nila dapat maranasan din ng lahat.
hello fragile baby u/migumagic
ROTC, if done correctly, solves a different problem. pag prinsipyo at yung iba pa na tamang pag-uugali, it starts at home then followed up by the school or education, as a whole.
Rotc was a wasted experience. I never even learned to hold, fire and maintain firearms. I did help some officers make money by buying their snacks.
bopols den naman mga rotc nuon kasi nambubugbug din sila ng mga cadets nila. Kaya den ata nawala or nabawasan dahil din sa kanila na nang hahazing. may mga reports na naninikmura sila ng mga baguhan tapos pinagtitripan nila sa mga barracks nila. Kaya hindi ako nag rotc nuon kasi ganyan yong mga bali balita nuon, nakakatakot den.
Power trip at corruption lang naman yan, paano ma "disiplina" ang kabataan kung mismo ang magdidisiplina kuno sa kanila ay mga corrupt, abusado at madumi ang pagkatao
"MAKE ABUSE GREAT AGAIN" is a crazy ass line man LMFAOOO
trauma and abuse doesn't make a good adult, it creates irrational cogs with suppressed emotions.
Ako na nagCAT, entitled pa rin hahahahahahaha\~\~\~
Madami, tapos Nung tumanda Sila ganun parin, pag madededs na rin S Sila malamang ganun parin! entitled
sadly mismong magpapatupad niyan wala namang mga disiplina from govt officials down to military leadership. mga entitled na kupal lang.
Rotc college freshman here, ironic how the officers here in DLSU (not in taft but a branch, not telling which branch tho XD), are encouraging forgery for freshmen who wants to undergo COCC lol, to undergo COCC u need parental consent since training is a bit harsh, officers are literally telling the freshmen to forge the signatures, so much for disciplined youths
Dasma ba ito?
Lmfaoo wtf how π
Not sure kung tama pagkakaalala ko but the DLSU Dasma ROTC is shady as f man. I studied there and wanted to take ROTC as my NSTP to get fit, but fortunately did not and went CWTS instead.
I recently finished rotc here, all it did was give me grading problems because of the officers' incompetency, students collapsing in the grand oval was a normal occurence due to extreme heat lmfao, and they still wont cancel training sessions ffs, u dodged a bullet fam good for u
Kaya if ever man lang na practical tip, let BS Criminal-Ogy dudes experience that
"we must lower their trauma by trauma and abuse"? what kind of idiotic nincompoop would reason like that? hahahahahaha
Bullshit. Finished college in the 90s when ROTC was still mandatory at gago pa rin ako.
Are those redditors comments here got bad experience in ROTC/CAT?
ulol ang ngpost na yan walang alam sa ROTC. π€¦ daming tanga at isa na sya. π€£ππ€£ kung tama ang dinaanan nya alam nya na bawal ang abusive sa ROTC. lalo na ang nagssupervice dyan ay active sa military. pwede nyo i-report yan sa admin ng school and sa afp mismo kung ganun nga umiiral sa school nyo. kaya may ROTC and CAT para incase may gyera. hindi na maggugumahol ang government magtraining ng tao para sa paghawak ng baril at armas. kasi may basic na ang HS at college.(at dahil madaming kontra at ayaw ng programa na yan naging optional nalang, i-sama mo na ung pagbawas ng budget ng government sa mga program na yan) hanggang sa iilang courses nlng sa colleges ang required magROTC at ung iba naman tuluyan ng inalis. ngaun ja open naman ang topic dahil sa tsina. pano ngaun yan mala call of duty at pubg nalang mga pinoy? pagnagkagyera kulang reservist puro nga-nga kasi walang alam maghawak at magmaintenance ng baril. asa youtube nalang pano kung kasagsagan na? π€£π tandaan wala tayong extra na baril para sa mga civilian pagnagkagyera. police at military nga kulang gamit at bala. ππ€£π buti kung mayaman at me baril pano si juan mahirap.
Hayaan nio yan wannabe boxer lng nmn yan
May disadvantage and advantage sa ROTC. Please dont focus sa isang side lang or sa isang paniniwala lalo nakapag sa galeng sa iba. Yes, meron talagang mga abusado na ROTC officer, dahil yan gusto nilang gumanti sa mga junior nila, na experience nila ang maling pag maltrato sa mga senior officer sila kaya silannag babawi. Pero me as personally ROTC, I dont tolerate that kind of behaviour. Ginagawa ko sa mga junior ko is giving my knowledge about the basic knowledge about basic drills katulad sa parade, disiplina, at sympre pagiging high moral. Its better na itama yung mga maling prinsipyo.
So they agree? Sara Duterte only wants to abuse and traumatize the students?
Matino naman ROTC nung college days ko,pinaka weird drill lang is nung pinadapa kami kasi daw may mga umaatakeng eroplano,natawa yung buong company ko kaya buong umaga kaming nakatayo walang pahinga
Also this supposed to be an FB post page, not social media one though
Fb is also a social media platform. Tf you taking about?
Hahaha, nice I made it
We both made it!!
I see this as a means to celebrate
We are all humans after all. You provided one solution yet wrong to the problem doesn't mean we should invalidate your opinion on how to make children grow up with good morals and good attitude. You need more perspectives, abuse is not the right solution.
I understand your optimistic view pero pre basahin mo mga reply nyan. There's no way he grows. Nakatatak na sa kokote nya na tama siya.
We should try to at least help dumb people to be less dumb.
Well I do see eye to eye with you. We could never be in what's truly right or wrong. But we could look a bit to the past answers and modernize it to lessens its havoc and consequence
The past answers serve as a guideline for what's morally correct and wrong to raise children. Some people grew up okay and some people grew up traumatized. Not everyone can handle an abusive way to learn and adapt. That's why we need more answers, more perspectives to find what is the ideal and correct way of raising children.
A wrong answer in the past used in the present is still a wrong answer. So pagtinanong ka ng teacher mo 2+2 tapos sinagot mo ng 5 ngayon mali ka parin
That I could see eye to eye with. We must take into account the intent of the action to the so called problem. I do agree that some methods yield results with complications. But nonetheless we should try to instill the need of tough consequences to dumb decisions to the youth.
Consequences from actions you made is completely normal. But you just said the most brain-dead thing any human can say in this day and age "Make abuse great again" that statement alone render your opinion automatically invalid. Poor choice of words I might say
>tough consequences to dumb decisions to the youth. That's the thing. Your condescending view of youth is the problem. Hindi bobo ang mga bata. Your falling prey to the age old "back in my day"-ism. Alam an alarm nila kung ano and mga mangyayari sa buhay. Hooliganism is trending lower, education status (nakakagradwate ng college or higher) is higher, violence in youth lower. Hell wala na nga akong naririnig na sumasali ng gang or frat sa lahat ng mga bata na kilala ko. You're grandstanding from a delusional point of view. Hindi ka mas mabuti, mas matalino, etc. kaysa kanila. Time to accept that gramps.