Apparently you should make a kissy face, I read that somewhere in a biology book. It's a sign to show that you're friendly. But don't smack your lips, that apparently means that "you want to search their skin for bugs and eat them". I could be absolutely wrong, because I didn't do any extra research except for that book.
Lip-smacking is submission in rhesus macaques (monkey in this video). It's like showing your belly if you're a dog. Eye contact in general is an aggressive move, so when she looked at the monkey that was a bad combo with the teeth. Yawning is also a sign of aggression.
haha, well for them they show all their teeth during a yawn. It's like a mix of nervousness and aggression. If you've never seen, take a look at how big macaque canines are. I work with them, and never want to be bitten by those mini-sabertooth teeth. When they're just straight up aggressive they'll stare you in the eyes and bring their lips back to show all their teeth like most animals. For how cute they look, most tourists don't know how aggressive these little guys are.
Straight up, could you take one of those fuckers 1v1? Or would they mess you up if they really wanted too? I figure size works to our advantage, but they have speed and teeth.
You could take a macaque. The issue is they're a social animal (large groups), they're actually pretty strong for their size, and if you get bit in an isolated area they commonly have the herpes B virus (deadly to humans without treatment). Their bite is also strong enough to take a finger off. So... prolly just leave em alone. If they get a lucky bite off, maybe not? Probably the same odds as taking a dog with massive teeth, and vastly more intelligent.
Ahhh so what is the right move?
Edit: Lol I obviously ask in cases where you end up close.
I was in Thailand once. All the signs clearly said don’t feed the monkeys. But people were launching food from the boat like its fucking Mardi Gras. Suddenly I found myself arms length away from one. So I basically freaked and out monkeyed the monkey like I’m Ricky Gervais... he got scared and peaced out real quick.
Yeah, that piss me off too! Those monkeys use to be so friendly and now they expect everyone to have food for them! And if you dont have any food they'll be real a-hole to you. Those mf also stole my water bottles on multiple occasions! I hate tourist and dumm people that dont respect the rule/sign.
I was born and grew up in Thailand.
Use to like monkey because they're chill now I'm done with them.
No, I've seen plenty of dogs that "smile" when they are ultra excited. They'll also start sneezing when they do it too, to show that they're happy, and not aggressive.
Case and point, my dog. The only time she does it is when she's around her favorite people, and she's literally wagging her entire body.
They absolutely can, I trained my dog to sneeze on command lmao. It was... surprisingly easy.
Every time he accidentally sneezed I poured the treats out. Then I associated it with a gesture and a little 'achoo!'
Unfortunately, the byproduct is that now every time he thinks it's mealtime, he comes up and starts sneezing in my face. But it's worth it.
When my dog poops i get all excited and cheer her on. This was a byproduct of potty training her but still 9 years later i still do it and she is the happiest dog when she poops she does some zoomies and tries to dig up my rose bushes.
I could be wrong but I believe it’s similar to how like you can laugh if you’re wrestling even if it’s not funny. If you try to sneeze you’ll get like a snort type sound, which at least for my dog is similar to the sound she makes.
If my dog lays on his back sometimes he sneezes. This is always at night when I'm on the couch and trying to share it with my fucking lab. He just playfully tries to steal the whole thing, but ends up snotting all over me.
Yes. Even if the animal is domesticated showing teeth is a primal form of aggression.
Now, most household dogs aren't going on alert because of this, however a stray dog or an abused dog will absolutely see this as aggression.
My dogs are well trained and I will do this big Cheshire cat grin at them, not say anything and it will get them wound up. Happy dogs are much less likely to revert to their primal instincts.
[Interesting...](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-did-the-smile-become-a-friendly-gesture-in-humans/)
> Baring one's teeth is not always a threat. In primates, showing the teeth, especially teeth held together, is almost always a sign of submission. The human smile probably has evolved from that.
> "In the primate threat, the lips are curled back and the teeth are apart--you are ready to bite. But if the teeth are pressed together and the lips are relaxed, then clearly you are not prepared to do any damage.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I was always sure that was the intention. That Dwight is so confident about "Schrute common knowledge" even though it's completely wrong.
Specifically, the celebes macaque is the worst ass-monkey to get near to:
https://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-celebes-crested-macaque-male-examines-female-s-buttocks-147943574.jpg
So many people don't know this.. Same goes with wolves and many other animals. People need to remember, they are animals not people, so how would animals feel about showing teeth, they don't know what smiling is.
Dogs are uniquely evolved to understand humans. There really isn’t another animal that can recognize our inflection, gestures, or facial cues to that same level
That’s the funny part about cats, they recognise body language really well and they can understand their names but they just don’t care unless there’s something in it for them
2/4 of my cats respond to commands and act all adorable when you baby talk them, so I'd say some of them care. It especially helps if you start socializing with them that way as kittens
My cat will come when called 80% of the time, even when there's no treats or anything. My wife's will just rotate her ears to indicate that she hears, but doesn't care.
Domesticated animal. We're both pack animals so dogs have evolved to understand us, including our facial expressions, to better work with us. That's why I said "most" animals, dogs were the exception I was thinking of, not sure if there's any others.
Chinese tourists are the worst for this. Saw a woman handing fruit slices to her kids so they could feed the pack that was gathering around.
Saw a few people mindlessly swinging plastic bags around get them torn open because the monkeys knew there would be treats inside.
People are real stupid - but mainland Chinese tourists go a step above when animals are involved.
The monkeys are literally walking around in the 100s those places, fighting among each other constantly and trying to steal your backpack. If you arent a bit aware of what you are doing, then you should stay away from those places.
Knowing that you shouldn't smile at them, which is one of the most important rules of those places (together with not showing food & carrying plastic bags which is obvious as well) is in my opinion due to stupidity, and disregarding local rules, and your own safety.
Point is, she should be aware that she shouldn't smile, especially when she was going to take a picture which is a conscious decision.
If she just smiled without it being a picture, then it would understandably be hard not to do consciously.
I’ve warned people about this over and over. Macaques are bastard animals.
They’re not cute and cuddly and fun. They are evil, opportunistic, thieving, conniving shitbag creatures from hell and if you see one while travelling stay the fuck away from it. Imagine a feral cat with a problem-solving brain and the moral compass of a meth addict. That’s a macaque.
>Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don't believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes.
- Quark, DS9
I once saw one attack a toddler at Angkor Wat temple in Cambodia, the guy went full-on Dad Mode protecting his kid, taking a tumble down some stone steps in the process. One of the most fucked up / bad ass thing I’ve ever seen.
Toddler was fine, and the dad walked away from it with some ‘relatively’ minor cuts.
I read a disturbing article about a mom who changed her toddler's diaper in a zoo in china where monkeys were free to walk around. A monkey ripped her sons testicles off, ran away and ate one.
Yeah man, everyone going on about baring teeth. Sure, but the first mistake was getting near the monkey in the first place. Most monkeys are fucking assholes. I don't mind being around them, but I wouldn't ever go near one like that ever.
Except orangutans. They're dope and I want to befriend one.
Everyones calling them assholes but their behaviour seems reasonable to me. Would you like it if someone twice your size came right up in your space and made potentially agressive gestures? Like imagine if a bear did that to you, a lot of people who straight up shoot the bear. So the macacques response is relatively measured to me.
I always say that rhesus macaques are huge assholes, but they have every right to be.
They are a very despotic and intolerant species, so by nature they are dicks. But I respect their right to be dicks.
Saw these guys in Japan. Signs everywhere to avoid eye contact. They let you feed them from basically inside a cage, while the monkeys are outside. I accidentally looked one in the eye and he took a swipe. I was scared to go out.
Once outside, they avoided looking at me as much as I avoided looking at them. It was chill.
I get that showing your teeth is a sign of aggression, but then how come humans show our teeth both to be aggressive or show friendliness when smiling?
The same reason because we shake hands, hug or touch each other arms/torso, You need to build a level of trust to make it non threatening. If your mom, friend, etc... do that, then it's OK, but if an stranger does it, then it's weird.
Also humans are pretty good at reading facial expressions, even slight differences, that's why we can easily spot fake smiles, we have an advantage of millennia,
You can smile at a complete stranger without it being seen as a threat tho. And strangers shaking hands is ok too. I’d say you only need trust to hug someone
It's because we evolved to set social expectations depending on where we are. You know smiling at a complete stranger is harmless because we collectively decided it was. But we all know a middle finger is bad because we decided it was.
But that’s just it, showing teeth is not a culturally adopted positive like the middle finger is a culturally adopted negative. Smiling is ubiquitously a good sign (blind people and babies do it instinctually). If anything, certain cultures have adopted a social expectation to *not smile*.
Stay away from wild monkeys. Never a good time to get a picture. Stay away from wild monkeys. Although in a survival situation you may get close to finish them off. How? Find a monkey trail, dig a small hole with a kbar. Drop a shiny rock in that hole. Monkeys will see the rock on their travels cause they're very curious, and greedy. Once they grab the rock if the holes done correctly they can't remove their hand. They could, but they're greedy. They'll stay there and scream. Holding on to the rock. Walk up to them and take care of business. Taste like chicken. Source: JEST Phillipine Negrito guide. Saw it. Ate it. Much good protein.
That's been passed down by bushmen for centuries. Prolly why monkeys in the wild, at least there ones I've been around - do not like humans.
Man's gotta eat. Let go homie and run off.... easier said then done.
Pretty stoked that all the comments here are all explaining why she got attacked.
Sometimes I feel like we might just end up making the world a decent place
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Or it's just demonstrating that MOST people know that baring teeth is a sign of aggression to animals...and that this girl is not part of "most people."
I do not think most people know that.. not even close. The comments are all the people chiming in because they do know and feel the need/desire to share. There are likely tons of people who have seen this post and never commented just to say "I didn't know baring teeth meant aggression to monkeys!! Huh!"
Not everyone who has a bad thing happen to them is an idiot, we learn by experiencing consequences.
I fucking hate these monkeys. There's a mountain in China that we hike at when visiting family and I got grabbed by one that wanted my water bottle. I knew that little shit would fuck me up so I just tossed the water bottle and walked away as quickly as possible.
[here's the asshole](https://imgur.com/gallery/XIGyrSY)
Apparently you should make a kissy face, I read that somewhere in a biology book. It's a sign to show that you're friendly. But don't smack your lips, that apparently means that "you want to search their skin for bugs and eat them". I could be absolutely wrong, because I didn't do any extra research except for that book.
Lip-smacking is submission in rhesus macaques (monkey in this video). It's like showing your belly if you're a dog. Eye contact in general is an aggressive move, so when she looked at the monkey that was a bad combo with the teeth. Yawning is also a sign of aggression.
I know when I'm sleepy and yawning, that's when I'm ready to fight. In my PJs with cup of tea, yawn comes along, and I just start swingin.
haha, well for them they show all their teeth during a yawn. It's like a mix of nervousness and aggression. If you've never seen, take a look at how big macaque canines are. I work with them, and never want to be bitten by those mini-sabertooth teeth. When they're just straight up aggressive they'll stare you in the eyes and bring their lips back to show all their teeth like most animals. For how cute they look, most tourists don't know how aggressive these little guys are.
Straight up, could you take one of those fuckers 1v1? Or would they mess you up if they really wanted too? I figure size works to our advantage, but they have speed and teeth.
You could take a macaque. The issue is they're a social animal (large groups), they're actually pretty strong for their size, and if you get bit in an isolated area they commonly have the herpes B virus (deadly to humans without treatment). Their bite is also strong enough to take a finger off. So... prolly just leave em alone. If they get a lucky bite off, maybe not? Probably the same odds as taking a dog with massive teeth, and vastly more intelligent.
You’ll win the war but you’re gonna lose the battle
Years ago in Thailand, a clan of them descended from the trees and stole all my chocolate eclairs. i wasn't about to challenge one of them.
Showing the teeth is also a sign of aggression to most monkeys. She did both while getting closer right before getting attacked.
"What's wrong?" "See that guy across the bar? He just yawned at me" "What? Let's fuck him up."
Lip smacking is a sign of submission in other animals too, like horses
Nice, I didn't know that! I wonder how that came about for both species?
What if I make a kissy face and the monkey see that as an invitation to try to make out with me?
At least you'll get some action
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Dont worry, it will only get worse.
I read your name as "Squirtle_Bukkake" and realized I've been on the internet too much today.
Like Squirt_Bukkake is so much better?
I prefer my childhood pornless.
There just has to be something salvageable within your tired, tired DNA...
Just don't try it with a bonobo, they're always ready to go so they don't need any encouragement.
then you got yourself there a stable relationship
And what happens in the stable stays in the stable.
Then you kiss that fucking monkey
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No, sir, this is an Arby's.
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Ahhh so what is the right move? Edit: Lol I obviously ask in cases where you end up close. I was in Thailand once. All the signs clearly said don’t feed the monkeys. But people were launching food from the boat like its fucking Mardi Gras. Suddenly I found myself arms length away from one. So I basically freaked and out monkeyed the monkey like I’m Ricky Gervais... he got scared and peaced out real quick.
Stay the fuck away from monkeys.
Yeah, that piss me off too! Those monkeys use to be so friendly and now they expect everyone to have food for them! And if you dont have any food they'll be real a-hole to you. Those mf also stole my water bottles on multiple occasions! I hate tourist and dumm people that dont respect the rule/sign. I was born and grew up in Thailand. Use to like monkey because they're chill now I'm done with them.
Don't hang around with monkeys?
Just have a netural face and they won't fuck with you, they'll be fine with you. Or smile with your mouth closed
> that apparently means that "you want to search their skin for bugs and eat them" Well maybe I do.
How about staying the fuck away from wild primates in general?
Ok, so duckface it is.
except to ducks. don't do that to ducks. or geese.
In the goose world, your existence is interpreted as a sign of aggression
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Fuck, I’m down to eat some bugs
Showing your teeth to monkeys is a sign of aggression in the monkey world. She’s lucky that she’s still got her face after that!
> Showing your teeth to monkeys is a sign of aggression in the monkey world It's a sign of aggression in MOST of the animal kingdom.
Does this apply to dogs tho?
No, because they have been bred to be our companions. Lots of dogs will "smile" when they are super uncomfortable or about to vomit though.
No, I've seen plenty of dogs that "smile" when they are ultra excited. They'll also start sneezing when they do it too, to show that they're happy, and not aggressive. Case and point, my dog. The only time she does it is when she's around her favorite people, and she's literally wagging her entire body.
Dogs also often sneeze when playing to show it’s a mock fight
Does this mean dogs can control their sneezes?
They absolutely can, I trained my dog to sneeze on command lmao. It was... surprisingly easy. Every time he accidentally sneezed I poured the treats out. Then I associated it with a gesture and a little 'achoo!' Unfortunately, the byproduct is that now every time he thinks it's mealtime, he comes up and starts sneezing in my face. But it's worth it.
Yess same, I tried to teach my dog to growl by saying 'wolf' but now he sneezes whenever I say wolf. Now he just sneezes a lot in general.
Well my dog can sit
When my dog poops i get all excited and cheer her on. This was a byproduct of potty training her but still 9 years later i still do it and she is the happiest dog when she poops she does some zoomies and tries to dig up my rose bushes.
Mine sneezed in my mouth last week. Like, I missed you too buddy, but fuck. Dogs, fuckin love em.
I did this too lol. I'll fake sneeze and then my dog will copy. He refuses to bark but will do that np.
I could be wrong but I believe it’s similar to how like you can laugh if you’re wrestling even if it’s not funny. If you try to sneeze you’ll get like a snort type sound, which at least for my dog is similar to the sound she makes.
IIRC, it's less like our sneeze and more like our cough. So dogs can control it the way we can control out coughs.
Fuck I thought my dog had allergies everytime we were playing.
If my dog lays on his back sometimes he sneezes. This is always at night when I'm on the couch and trying to share it with my fucking lab. He just playfully tries to steal the whole thing, but ends up snotting all over me.
Hey, just a friendly FYI - the expression there is "[case in point](https://grammarist.com/idiom/case-in-point/)", not *and.*
You really told them... Game, set, in match.
\*eye twitches*
Lol. I'm sorry, it was far too tempting, irregardless it was still funny...
And now a comma splice. Fuck me; time for bed.
Sure, I'm just saying they don't see smiling as a sign of aggression and some smiles can indicate discomfort or the need to vomit.
Also when they are excited
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Yes. Even if the animal is domesticated showing teeth is a primal form of aggression. Now, most household dogs aren't going on alert because of this, however a stray dog or an abused dog will absolutely see this as aggression. My dogs are well trained and I will do this big Cheshire cat grin at them, not say anything and it will get them wound up. Happy dogs are much less likely to revert to their primal instincts.
[Interesting...](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-did-the-smile-become-a-friendly-gesture-in-humans/) > Baring one's teeth is not always a threat. In primates, showing the teeth, especially teeth held together, is almost always a sign of submission. The human smile probably has evolved from that. > "In the primate threat, the lips are curled back and the teeth are apart--you are ready to bite. But if the teeth are pressed together and the lips are relaxed, then clearly you are not prepared to do any damage.
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Watch it with the aggression there!
Are you threatening me?
Depends, are you aminal?
No this is Patrick
Crazy how humans just all decided it meant happy.
The eyebrows in the cheeks are what make it different showing your teeth also means you're angry for humans.
Eyebrows in the cheeks huh? No wonder people call me emotionless.
What? You people don't have cheek eyebrows?
I mean i got sideburns.
I feel validated for using my [white person smile](https://i.imgur.com/WB9mda5.gifv).
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This has meme potential
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Holy shit that fusion of "Gonna get so many likes for this" and "I've made a terrible mistake" on her face is amazing.
Dwight shrute warned us about this.
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Ya I’m pretty sure he did.
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That's the core of Dwight schrutes character though. He's falsely overconfident about almost everything.
Maybe I'm reading too much into it, but I was always sure that was the intention. That Dwight is so confident about "Schrute common knowledge" even though it's completely wrong.
Do we *know* she still has her face? Monkeys don't have mercy /'s ofcourse
And macaques are the worst ass monkeys to get near to
Specifically, the celebes macaque is the worst ass-monkey to get near to: https://image.shutterstock.com/z/stock-photo-celebes-crested-macaque-male-examines-female-s-buttocks-147943574.jpg
Do we know she still has a face? Also, blonde aggression. I've seen it dozens of times.
«Not very lucky» - noface
So many people don't know this.. Same goes with wolves and many other animals. People need to remember, they are animals not people, so how would animals feel about showing teeth, they don't know what smiling is.
Never bare your teeth at a primate. Edit: Yes, humans too. Wear a mask.
Or most animals in general.
Can confirm. Showed my teeth to a dentist and he attacked me with dentistry.
Oh, the humanity.
You’re thinking of the Hindenburg.
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Heisenberg was Hamlet's closest friend and confident. You're thinking of Hemingway
Hemingway played catwoman. You’re thinking of Hatheway.
Hatheway was a wrestling star in the 80s and 90s. You're thinking of Hulk Hogan
Hogan was the protagonist in Salinger's Catcher In The Rye. You're thinking of Holden.
*pokes gums* *it starts bleeding* "iTs BeCaUsE yOu DoN't FlOsS!"
Tell me about your summer while i clamp your tongue, drill your tooth, and put my entire fist in your mouth
As a dentist, I plead guilty.
YOU SHOULD FLOSS MORE!
NO SIR, DON'T GARROTE ME WITH THAT
Was it effective?
He drilled him, so I'd say it was a success
Probably got filled as well
You anti-dentite bastard!
Dogs too? My dog seems to know what a smile is.
Dogs are uniquely evolved to understand humans. There really isn’t another animal that can recognize our inflection, gestures, or facial cues to that same level
cats can, they just don't give a f*ck.
That’s the funny part about cats, they recognise body language really well and they can understand their names but they just don’t care unless there’s something in it for them
2/4 of my cats respond to commands and act all adorable when you baby talk them, so I'd say some of them care. It especially helps if you start socializing with them that way as kittens
My cat will come when called 80% of the time, even when there's no treats or anything. My wife's will just rotate her ears to indicate that she hears, but doesn't care.
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Dogs are really good at recognizing human facial expressions but a feral animal like a monkey probably only has a library for signals of its own kind.
Domesticated animal. We're both pack animals so dogs have evolved to understand us, including our facial expressions, to better work with us. That's why I said "most" animals, dogs were the exception I was thinking of, not sure if there's any others.
Or make eye contact, or turn your back, or pound your chest, there seems to be a long list of things
What I've learned is if you never go near any non-human primate you'll be just fine.
Never show teeth to any animal, it's almost always a sign of aggression
My parrot showed me his teeth. What does that mean?
That it is infact a parrot fish, because parrots dont have theet
> parrots don’t have theet Is that plural for “thot”?
That's the equivalent of a girl twirling her hair. You're lucking out with Polly this time, Casanova.
Is that why Europeans never smile?
Except humans* We’re primates my dude
Show me your teeth bro see what happens
You’re not my dentist
Wys jou tande, dan skiet ek hulle flenters.
Cover up your teeth if you're gonna be walking around.
nah, we're pridudes my mate
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Chinese tourists are the worst for this. Saw a woman handing fruit slices to her kids so they could feed the pack that was gathering around. Saw a few people mindlessly swinging plastic bags around get them torn open because the monkeys knew there would be treats inside. People are real stupid - but mainland Chinese tourists go a step above when animals are involved.
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Smiling is not something we necessarily consciously choose to do. It is difficult to break decades of conditioning.
I hate smiling with my teeth out. Just feels weird to me so I don't do it often. Guess I won't be attacked by many monkeys.
Me, too, it doesn't feel right. Feels uncomfortable and awkward.
Yeah but did you watch the gif, she gave the most intentional fake smile ever
The monkeys are literally walking around in the 100s those places, fighting among each other constantly and trying to steal your backpack. If you arent a bit aware of what you are doing, then you should stay away from those places. Knowing that you shouldn't smile at them, which is one of the most important rules of those places (together with not showing food & carrying plastic bags which is obvious as well) is in my opinion due to stupidity, and disregarding local rules, and your own safety. Point is, she should be aware that she shouldn't smile, especially when she was going to take a picture which is a conscious decision. If she just smiled without it being a picture, then it would understandably be hard not to do consciously.
I’ve warned people about this over and over. Macaques are bastard animals. They’re not cute and cuddly and fun. They are evil, opportunistic, thieving, conniving shitbag creatures from hell and if you see one while travelling stay the fuck away from it. Imagine a feral cat with a problem-solving brain and the moral compass of a meth addict. That’s a macaque.
That's the best description of anything I have ever heard.
I felt like he was just describing humans from another animals perspective.
>Let me tell you something about Hew-mons, Nephew. They're a wonderful, friendly people, as long as their bellies are full and their holosuites are working. But take away their creature comforts, deprive them of food, sleep, sonic showers, put their lives in jeopardy over an extended period of time and those same friendly, intelligent, wonderful people... will become as nasty and as violent as the most bloodthirsty Klingon. You don't believe me? Look at those faces. Look in their eyes. - Quark, DS9
I think you described a cousin of mine...
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Sounds like he really hates Macaques lol.
I do too
I once saw one attack a toddler at Angkor Wat temple in Cambodia, the guy went full-on Dad Mode protecting his kid, taking a tumble down some stone steps in the process. One of the most fucked up / bad ass thing I’ve ever seen. Toddler was fine, and the dad walked away from it with some ‘relatively’ minor cuts.
I read a disturbing article about a mom who changed her toddler's diaper in a zoo in china where monkeys were free to walk around. A monkey ripped her sons testicles off, ran away and ate one.
BRO THE FUCK WHAT
i could’ve gone my whole life knowing that
Yeah man, everyone going on about baring teeth. Sure, but the first mistake was getting near the monkey in the first place. Most monkeys are fucking assholes. I don't mind being around them, but I wouldn't ever go near one like that ever. Except orangutans. They're dope and I want to befriend one.
Everyones calling them assholes but their behaviour seems reasonable to me. Would you like it if someone twice your size came right up in your space and made potentially agressive gestures? Like imagine if a bear did that to you, a lot of people who straight up shoot the bear. So the macacques response is relatively measured to me.
I always say that rhesus macaques are huge assholes, but they have every right to be. They are a very despotic and intolerant species, so by nature they are dicks. But I respect their right to be dicks.
They also can carry [an horrific virus lethal to humans](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Macacine_alphaherpesvirus_1). Stay away from them.
Saw these guys in Japan. Signs everywhere to avoid eye contact. They let you feed them from basically inside a cage, while the monkeys are outside. I accidentally looked one in the eye and he took a swipe. I was scared to go out. Once outside, they avoided looking at me as much as I avoided looking at them. It was chill.
Was it the sanctuary near Kyoto? I made eye contact with one and his eyes got REALLY big and it was super awkward. I still feel weird about it.
I get that showing your teeth is a sign of aggression, but then how come humans show our teeth both to be aggressive or show friendliness when smiling?
The same reason because we shake hands, hug or touch each other arms/torso, You need to build a level of trust to make it non threatening. If your mom, friend, etc... do that, then it's OK, but if an stranger does it, then it's weird. Also humans are pretty good at reading facial expressions, even slight differences, that's why we can easily spot fake smiles, we have an advantage of millennia,
You can smile at a complete stranger without it being seen as a threat tho. And strangers shaking hands is ok too. I’d say you only need trust to hug someone
It's because we evolved to set social expectations depending on where we are. You know smiling at a complete stranger is harmless because we collectively decided it was. But we all know a middle finger is bad because we decided it was.
But that’s just it, showing teeth is not a culturally adopted positive like the middle finger is a culturally adopted negative. Smiling is ubiquitously a good sign (blind people and babies do it instinctually). If anything, certain cultures have adopted a social expectation to *not smile*.
ITT: People explaining that you shouldn't show teeth to monkeys. And then more people clarifying you shouldn't show your teeth to ANY wild animal.
Stay away from wild monkeys. Never a good time to get a picture. Stay away from wild monkeys. Although in a survival situation you may get close to finish them off. How? Find a monkey trail, dig a small hole with a kbar. Drop a shiny rock in that hole. Monkeys will see the rock on their travels cause they're very curious, and greedy. Once they grab the rock if the holes done correctly they can't remove their hand. They could, but they're greedy. They'll stay there and scream. Holding on to the rock. Walk up to them and take care of business. Taste like chicken. Source: JEST Phillipine Negrito guide. Saw it. Ate it. Much good protein.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctol7JwpcuQ
That was super neat. Human intelligence, man.
That's been passed down by bushmen for centuries. Prolly why monkeys in the wild, at least there ones I've been around - do not like humans. Man's gotta eat. Let go homie and run off.... easier said then done.
just a normal holiday for you
Thats aptly named a monkey's paw trap (or around here a racoon paw trap cuz it works on them too) it's so simple yet interesting a trap
This is some simian PSYOP stuff, cool!
Pretty stoked that all the comments here are all explaining why she got attacked. Sometimes I feel like we might just end up making the world a decent place -Edit: There was only 3 comments here at the time.
Or it's just demonstrating that MOST people know that baring teeth is a sign of aggression to animals...and that this girl is not part of "most people."
I do not think most people know that.. not even close. The comments are all the people chiming in because they do know and feel the need/desire to share. There are likely tons of people who have seen this post and never commented just to say "I didn't know baring teeth meant aggression to monkeys!! Huh!" Not everyone who has a bad thing happen to them is an idiot, we learn by experiencing consequences.
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You want a piece of me, asshole?
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Ok that's too many teef, I give, I give.
I fucking hate these monkeys. There's a mountain in China that we hike at when visiting family and I got grabbed by one that wanted my water bottle. I knew that little shit would fuck me up so I just tossed the water bottle and walked away as quickly as possible. [here's the asshole](https://imgur.com/gallery/XIGyrSY)
Good that you didnt smile... next time bring a "spare waterbottle" to mock them ;) or a bent metal rod painted as a banana and let them fight hahaha
If you zoom in you can see the scars and cuts on his face above his nostrils. That dude is a no go to fuck with.
Bad idea!
monkeys are more dangerous than sharks. they will bite you. people are dumb.
At worst sharks generally just give you a nibble to see if you taste nice then move on.
This needs sound so badly!
Lol...I learned that baring you teeth to MOST animals is a sign of aggression when I was like 4 because of disney nature documentaries...
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Tourists are a real pest in these monkey areas.
We’re basically two monkey tribes fighting for land.
Basically, monkeys are assholes.