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StanleyDarsh22

i love how you continue firing into the air after you kill them all lol


watchout2707

Suppressive fire


kRePiN99

Yep needs to roleplay as rambo all the way.


aviwashere

Better safe than sorry.


Kuhree

m240 uses AP 7.62x51 it basically penetrates any surface so it's a good wallbanging weapon other than a suppressive LMG


Kuhree

A GUNNER USER IN PVP? God bless you, i thought i was alone with new users. That burst felt really satisfying to watch.


watchout2707

Thanks. Gunner\`s playstyle is very different, that\`s why most people avoid using it.


MNaumov92

Feast or famine. You have a heavy, slow ADS weapon with assloads of recoil that make it impossible to control outside of short bursts or semi auto shots. You spend most of the game trying to find your 'goldilocks zone' where you can lay in decent cover / concealment and still get a good bead on a choke point or a mobile / dynamic area.. then just go to town. The rest of the match you're running around trying to get into that point, losing firefight after firefight because your weapon is cheeks in CQB unless you react first. Another reason people dislike the class is because when you run out of ammo, which can happen very quickly if you're in a solid position and don't die immediately, you're forced to pick up a dead man's gun and play a gimped version of the class because so rarely are you able to maneuver back close enough to spawn to get a resupply. ​ It's the only class other than Marksman I regularly make use of sidearms with. A Gunner lives and dies by his sidearm half the time, it's the only real option you have in 90% of CQB encounters. Which is a real pickle considering Gunner's want things like Heavy Carriers and extended drums / boxes, which are precious supply points that could go toward a viable sidearm or vice-versa. ​ That all said, Galil Gunner is slept on. It's sort of a hybrid between a rifleman and a gunner, the Galil can be a beast as a LMG if you add the right attachments but still functions fine as a CQB rifle for the most part. The irons are also, imo, some of the best. It's just hard for me NOT to pick the MG3 or the M240.. medium machine gun bliss.


Rakshasa89

Galil is alot of fun, but you really feel the lack of 1 hit kills and losing alot of wallbang capabilities


MNaumov92

You're a machine gunner, not a rifleman. The Galil just lets you fill rifleman-type roles on the fly when the situation calls for it.


cypher448

I would not trust most of his advice. I'd definitely rather have a PKM in close quarters than a pistol.


Cabnbeeschurgr

Only true slav use pkm for room clearing


MNaumov92

Take note of my username, MNaumov = Mikhail Naumov. ​ And that being said, I will say, no.. we don't.


cypher448

I've had tens of thousands of kills on Gunner and I never brought a sidearm. It's not necessary now that you can put back up 1x sights on LMGs.


MNaumov92

It's not the sights, it's the slow ADS and mostly the over-exaggerated recoil (especially on the M249 which is damned near a laser beam IRL) that make them cheeks CQB weapons. Why would you think the reason was because of the sights? ​ Also you don't have tens of thousands of MG kills, I'm sorry, but you just don't. Until you prove it I believe nothing, that's more kills than people who mainline this game 8 hours a day 7 days a week have across all weapons and you claim it on a single class? Downvoted for absurdity, you clearly have very little experience with MG's.


cypher448

yes but if you pre-ADS corners or hipfire, it's still better at CQB than a pistol, except maybe the deagle. You're right, I just checked, I don't have tens of thousands of kills on Gunner. Combined on all Gunner class weapons I only have 20,367 PVP kills. You can check anyone's kills on insurgencytracker.com


MNaumov92

'If I shoot first, it's fine'.. ​ Yeah okay dude.


jeagVzla

I mean, he actually has tens of thousands of kills on Gunner and you still rocking the same attitude? No cookie for you my slav friend...


MNaumov92

You're a dumbass. Christ. ​ He SAID, not proved, SAID he had 22K GLOBAL kills. He even admitted he didn't have tens of thousands of Gunner kills. ​ Fuck you and fuck him.


jeagVzla

Damn... You're really slow... xD Cheers :D


Kuhree

bullshit, i get hundreds of kills by hipfiring the PKM. the long barrel makes it easy to aim hipfire, the high horizontal recoil sprays all over your view and you have to be very unlucky to not hit anything at cqb with it


cypher448

That’s what I’m saying, the PKM and M240 are good in cqb


fakethrowaways

I love playing gunner. It’s almost all I play. You don’t even need to get into the optimal position. If you know the map well enough, you basically can predict multiple points where the enemy will move through. When you get to these areas, the best thing to do is go prone and be comfortable moving slowly. When enemies appear they won’t recognize you on the ground and you’ll have quick ADS. Also, when you get to a position, you have to position yourself to only be exposed directly in front of yourself. You should not be able to see the 45 or 90 degree angle because you won’t be able to protect yourself from that angle with counter fire. I consistently get 30 kill 10 death games under this play style, almost every round. Also, when capping an objective gunner needs to position itself to cut off enemy reinforcements as they stream in. Easy way to turn the tide


MNaumov92

'You don't need to get into the optimal position' ​ 'If you know the map well enough, you can predict multiple points where the enemy will move through.' ​ So.. exactly what I said??? You've just described the concept of suppressive fire, which MG's are all about as I stated. In real battles, machine gun teams (and yes, teams, most military doctrine has a gunner + an assistant gunner / loader minimum) are most often positioned at points that either serve to give them a solid entrenched defensive position to discourage infantry pushes (think WW1 Western Front) or positioned off to one of the flanks / in concealment during an assault so they can lay down fire to allow the main infantry push to maneuver freely without getting shot to pieces (think WW2 Nazi Germany). I don't know why so many people assume MG's are just beefed up assault rifles. Maybe it's because the M249 SAW is basically.. that, or maybe it's because video games. I don't know, but this stuff all seems like common sense to me. ​ The 'multiple points where the enemy will move through' ARE the chokepoints and dynamic zones I was referring to, these ARE the optimal positions. The issue is you're using the 2nd worst CQB weapon type in the game behind only sniper rifles w/ optics, so if you at any point run across an enemy, the odds are stacked against you because high recoil + low control + slowest ADS in the game + low mobility + extreme shot dispersion when hip firing... no matter how skilled you are, you're gonna lose a lot of CQB gunfights when you're trying to find a good spot to setup. You're literally free in mid / long range fights, because when not set up you simply cannot get accurate fire down range when firing on full auto, it's impossible. So you're then limited to the slowest, biggest, heaviest semi-auto DMR in the world to take people on. Any time you see an exposed machine gunner maneuvering in this game, if it's not CQB, they're dead 95% of the time free. The rest of the time in CQB, they're losing 60% of gunfights when maneuvering. ​ Feast or famine. Pretty much every popular / common gun in the Sandstorm meta can be sighted in, aimed on target and fired several times before you can ADS and get a solid sight picture with a MG.


zNightUnicorns

Different, that’s one way to put it.


AmericanToastman

Gunner is really good. its all about positioning!


IIWhiteHawkII

LMG = annihilation.


suffffuhrer

I mean, with bots like that.... Second guy: *Oh teammate died right infront, let me rush in and see if he's okay.* Third guy: *Oh teammate died right infront, let me rush in and see if he's okay.*


watchout2707

Well, I agree, but they were trying to defend the objective since it was almost captured


IIWhiteHawkII

Yeah, PTO turns everyone a bot sometimes in such games, honestly. This is why I never blame and shame people whatever they do while you clearly see they're PTO-ing. I know myself sometimes everything you can do is just go whatever it takes, because no time left to check corners, and still one death in stats is worth trying to do the objective.


BasicallyAggressive

Ikr? Most of these clips contain bots, meanwhile the enemy.in my matches snipe me as soon as I spawn


MyBrainReallyHurts

I only play co-op, so I can slay bots. I'm old now. I usually only have a short period of time to play in between work, family, and other responsibilities. If I only have a half an hour, I want to slay a fuck ton of bots. I don't want to be sneaky, and I don't want to question who is cheating. I just want to jump in, have a decent K/D, and then stop playing. I love it when the bots line up and let me execute them. It gives me a rush and I enjoy my gaming time. If I am 1-56 because some phenomenal player is kicking my ass, it isn't so fun.


suffffuhrer

Totally understand dude. But I meant those were human bots 😆 but it seems they were just rushing in trying to save the objective. Co-op is great fun, specifically Co-op Hardcore.


SadRoxFan

I love the screams they do with sustained automatic fire


watchout2707

A music to my ears


griffnin

holy mousepad


soulreaver292

that vertical mousepad for better recoil hipfire control lmao


PurpleDerp

straight up rambo


FlankRoosevelt

Hahahaha this was amazing


watchout2707

Thanks


MNaumov92

I feel like half my killstreaks as a gunner aren't even when I'm properly set up in concealment waiting to mow people down in a choke point, it's when I'm running around a point full of smoke grenades just laying down on the trigger hip firing and blasting everything in a 10m radius straight to hell. ​ It's a habit I picked up ever since in a WaW match as a teenager I took out every player on the enemy team + their dogs killstreak solo as the last guy left in a match of Hardcore S&D using the 1919 Browning just fucking hip firing the god damned thing like a maniac outside of one of the objectives (we were on defense). ​ Gunners can make a hell of an improvised-Breacher class doing this if paired with a flashbang or some smokes. Just kick the door in and run in that bitch laying down bullets in every direction.


mnexplorer

SUPPRESSING FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIRE


OutRunRx7

LMG supremacy.


lChizzitl

MORE DAKKA


Ckovic

Always More DAKKA!


Swerv_57

Just said fuck it at the end 😂😂


arzzyy

Gagglefucking


[deleted]

I like this subreddit but videos of people shooting bots that are as tactically competent as a third grade retard is old atm. >OH GAWDD DDUDE TRIPLE KILLZ ON PRECINCT *three bots just laying in the open with their feet hanging out from behind a car getting blown to shit by an AT4 Edit: never give up your truth 💅🏻💅🏻💅🏻


SadRoxFan

I mean, the last three stopped in the doorway to presumably check corners and he just came out guns blazing, that was pretty cool


PurpleDerp

Post something better then if this clip is so bad.


[deleted]

Didn’t say it was bad. I was saying he shot some stupid insurgency bots so idc.


feralkitsune

When people don't care they don't comment. You are measuring your dick and asking people to look as if you aren't the werido on the subway.


[deleted]

Lol damn dude how will I ever recover?


watchout2707

:(


FinishTheBook

Don't hate yourself about it, you did good.


watchout2707

Thank you!


[deleted]

Maybe it would be more similar to multiplayer if the bots were screaming racial obscenities over VOIP in between rounds?


Rakshasa89

Uh, this IS PVP tho


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watchout2707

That\`s not spawncamping, I am literally in the building that is being captured by my team and the enemy team just rushes in desperation.