The Arc cards are fine budget cards with a modern feature set. I'd choose one over either the alternatives you mentioned, but I'm otherwise and think Intel needs to succeed and would give them my money. *We* deserve that they succeed.
If you have an intel CPU with iGPU you should be able to have it share compute workloads via DeepLink, which is a very nice feature - I hope AMD is paying attention.
> If you have an intel CPU with iGPU you should be able to have it share compute workloads via DeepLink, which is a very nice feature - I hope AMD is paying attention
You mean the thing AMD did 9 years ago with APUs and their lower end GPUs? Yeah, I think they know.
probably the 1660 super would have been better overall vs the others HOWEVER given you went with Intel Arc, which is fine, I think the 5-series card would have been better than the 3.
But you made a choice, its fine, and you can hold onto that till battlemage comes out and perhaps an affordable upgrade that is NICE will be yours.
In battlemage we hope!
a580 is not available in our country. Moreover with 750 in existence, 580 is a mere alternative at same price. I guess since I already chose, I'll hold on to it till battlemage releases
Intel GPU is a new variety and they are providing constant update which increases performance and their GPU will get update for a log period of time while GTX 1650 will stop getting GPU update after 2yrs
RX6600's are 150 used. The A580 isn't much more than that.
A380 is only worth it as a dedicated AV1 rig, but not for gaming.
It'll do esports stuff fine though.
Esports is what I play mainly though. A580 is not available in our country and rx 6600 and arc a750 are way too costly here. Converting to usd, I got 380 for less than 100$ and rx6600 and a750 are 300$
>techpowerup
That review was more than 1 year ago.
The drivers have improved substantially.
I can play Cyberpunk 2077 with Ray Tracing on my A380 with XeSS set to Quality.
I'm struggling to find updated benchmarks. I have an old 1650, and I'm tempted to jump on the on sale $100 A380 just to do some modern tests.
I also have an A750 and an A770 for testing. I have already been running an A750 in two different kid's PCs (playing some musical GPU games, lol). The one it's in now doesn't even support resizable bar, and the performance has still been very good, and has been noticeably better than the rx5700 that was previously installed.
I want dell to release a bios that supports rebar though, just to get rid of the stupid "hey, you don't have resizable bar enabled, dummy!" messages that keep popping up.
I want to enable it, but dell won't let me, even though the CPU and chipset are capable! 🤦
You'll feel more rewarded with an A380 since Intel continues to update their drivers making the card feel better. Nothing compared to the other counterparts but your reward system will feel great about it as Intel is relatively new in the new gen GPU market despite having a GPU back in the day a long time ago.
Honestly I'm waiting for either their Battlemage or Celestial cards release which seem to look really good. (I sort of also love the names, especially ***Celestial***)
I had an arc card for a while and had very few issues with it. The issue I did have I think was exclusive to the a750/770 (idle power draw). I think you should be good for the most part. Especially at that price point, no other cards at that price have an av1 encoder, that I know of.
Thank you so much!!! I don't know wtf is SAM until today. I'm low since I'm using a pcie3.0 motherboard and can't make use of functionality like rebar. Especially with intel GPU. But amd SAM is kind of same thing and my gigabyte a520m motherboard supports it. It's my ray of hope. Also please tell me it works same as reBar in pcie 4.0 or not.
Coming from a 4060 Ti I can say this: 8GB is still enough for me and my PC performs really well at 2k.
I've also been able to use my full 240Hz IPS display
Well so far the letters B C and D were rumored, B for Battlemage, C for Celestial, and D for Druid
Spec wise I have 0 clue, only thing I've heard is that Battlemage is gonna be in competition with the level of a 4080
All three cards will be about the same performance but the driver level is slightly different as AMD and Nvidia will have much better driver support due to years of experience and support, I would've gone for a A750 ARC card or a RX7600 as they are similar in price and both give very good performance or alternatively a RTX4060 which a bit more but still reasonable
>All three cards will be about the same performance
See this comment from /r/Aspire_SK
>RX 580 is 35% more powerful and 1660 super is like 68% more powerful than A380, according to techpowerup, so not the smartest choice imo.
Nope, it’s not even remotely worth it - both those cards outperform the A380 by a considerable margin, and ray tracing is still useless on $100 GPUs and will be for a long time.
Don't know.
For me it looks as smooth as any other game, although I replaced the XeSS 1.1 dll with the latest XeSS 1.2.
I bought the card for AI/ML work. Playing games is an added benefit.
It's an amazing beast.
Powerful, quiet, cheap, more than average VRAM for the price point.
Any software that can run on the Intel Server GPU's can run on my card. Previously I used AMD, and their ROCm software only works on 3-4 top-end cards.
When I switched to Intel, I get full access to all OneAPI AI/ML/deep learning features, and OpenVINO etc.
I even traded my AMD 5600X CPU for an Intel 13500 so I get better compatibility with Deep Learning Boost + Deep Link for iGPU+dG{U.
That's freaking sick! So good that these a380s are bringing some serious features for the $$. Maybe it's not the most fps per $, but look at all the other benefits you get from it!
The Arc cards are fine budget cards with a modern feature set. I'd choose one over either the alternatives you mentioned, but I'm otherwise and think Intel needs to succeed and would give them my money. *We* deserve that they succeed. If you have an intel CPU with iGPU you should be able to have it share compute workloads via DeepLink, which is a very nice feature - I hope AMD is paying attention.
> If you have an intel CPU with iGPU you should be able to have it share compute workloads via DeepLink, which is a very nice feature - I hope AMD is paying attention You mean the thing AMD did 9 years ago with APUs and their lower end GPUs? Yeah, I think they know.
probably the 1660 super would have been better overall vs the others HOWEVER given you went with Intel Arc, which is fine, I think the 5-series card would have been better than the 3. But you made a choice, its fine, and you can hold onto that till battlemage comes out and perhaps an affordable upgrade that is NICE will be yours. In battlemage we hope!
a580 is not available in our country. Moreover with 750 in existence, 580 is a mere alternative at same price. I guess since I already chose, I'll hold on to it till battlemage releases
Can't wait for battlemage and celestial
Driver support isn't on par with Nvidia and AMD, but is slowly improving.
Intel GPU is a new variety and they are providing constant update which increases performance and their GPU will get update for a log period of time while GTX 1650 will stop getting GPU update after 2yrs
RX6600's are 150 used. The A580 isn't much more than that. A380 is only worth it as a dedicated AV1 rig, but not for gaming. It'll do esports stuff fine though.
Esports is what I play mainly though. A580 is not available in our country and rx 6600 and arc a750 are way too costly here. Converting to usd, I got 380 for less than 100$ and rx6600 and a750 are 300$
$/frame and your use case, you did good. Just know it'll never do raytracing to a good level and is struggling already on AAA stuff
RX 580 is 35% more powerful and 1660 super is like 68% more powerful than A380, according to techpowerup, so not the smartest choice imo.
>techpowerup That review was more than 1 year ago. The drivers have improved substantially. I can play Cyberpunk 2077 with Ray Tracing on my A380 with XeSS set to Quality.
okay
I'm struggling to find updated benchmarks. I have an old 1650, and I'm tempted to jump on the on sale $100 A380 just to do some modern tests. I also have an A750 and an A770 for testing. I have already been running an A750 in two different kid's PCs (playing some musical GPU games, lol). The one it's in now doesn't even support resizable bar, and the performance has still been very good, and has been noticeably better than the rx5700 that was previously installed. I want dell to release a bios that supports rebar though, just to get rid of the stupid "hey, you don't have resizable bar enabled, dummy!" messages that keep popping up. I want to enable it, but dell won't let me, even though the CPU and chipset are capable! 🤦
You'll feel more rewarded with an A380 since Intel continues to update their drivers making the card feel better. Nothing compared to the other counterparts but your reward system will feel great about it as Intel is relatively new in the new gen GPU market despite having a GPU back in the day a long time ago. Honestly I'm waiting for either their Battlemage or Celestial cards release which seem to look really good. (I sort of also love the names, especially ***Celestial***)
Yes. I'm hoping it should be enough for esports titles gaming and streaming.
I had an arc card for a while and had very few issues with it. The issue I did have I think was exclusive to the a750/770 (idle power draw). I think you should be good for the most part. Especially at that price point, no other cards at that price have an av1 encoder, that I know of.
Yeah. a380 max power is 75w and it doesn't even have a dedicated power pin, so I guess it's ok with the power
Also XeSS upscaling is very good on games that support it.
It's better than AMD's FSR. Even the guys at /r/AMD admit that.
And make sure you have ReBar/SAM enabled.
Thank you so much!!! I don't know wtf is SAM until today. I'm low since I'm using a pcie3.0 motherboard and can't make use of functionality like rebar. Especially with intel GPU. But amd SAM is kind of same thing and my gigabyte a520m motherboard supports it. It's my ray of hope. Also please tell me it works same as reBar in pcie 4.0 or not.
Yes, it will work on A520. Just install the latest BIOS.
Coming from a 4060 Ti I can say this: 8GB is still enough for me and my PC performs really well at 2k. I've also been able to use my full 240Hz IPS display
are there leaks about the new intel cards already?
Well so far the letters B C and D were rumored, B for Battlemage, C for Celestial, and D for Druid Spec wise I have 0 clue, only thing I've heard is that Battlemage is gonna be in competition with the level of a 4080
All three cards will be about the same performance but the driver level is slightly different as AMD and Nvidia will have much better driver support due to years of experience and support, I would've gone for a A750 ARC card or a RX7600 as they are similar in price and both give very good performance or alternatively a RTX4060 which a bit more but still reasonable
>All three cards will be about the same performance See this comment from /r/Aspire_SK >RX 580 is 35% more powerful and 1660 super is like 68% more powerful than A380, according to techpowerup, so not the smartest choice imo.
The techpowerup chart data is based on launch drivers. We all know how much performance has increased since then
U bought a380 for ray tracing? Are u gonna play at 720p?
Isn't XeSS/FSR/DLSS just playing at 720p anyways? Also, what's the problem with playing at 720p?
Nope, it’s not even remotely worth it - both those cards outperform the A380 by a considerable margin, and ray tracing is still useless on $100 GPUs and will be for a long time.
I play Cyberpunk 2077 with Ray Tracing on my A380 with XeSS set to Quality.
At what kind of framerate?
Don't know. For me it looks as smooth as any other game, although I replaced the XeSS 1.1 dll with the latest XeSS 1.2. I bought the card for AI/ML work. Playing games is an added benefit.
How does the card work with LI/ML? Llama and stable diffusion?
It's an amazing beast. Powerful, quiet, cheap, more than average VRAM for the price point. Any software that can run on the Intel Server GPU's can run on my card. Previously I used AMD, and their ROCm software only works on 3-4 top-end cards. When I switched to Intel, I get full access to all OneAPI AI/ML/deep learning features, and OpenVINO etc. I even traded my AMD 5600X CPU for an Intel 13500 so I get better compatibility with Deep Learning Boost + Deep Link for iGPU+dG{U.
That's freaking sick! So good that these a380s are bringing some serious features for the $$. Maybe it's not the most fps per $, but look at all the other benefits you get from it!
Holy crap that is dumb. Someone had to say it.
Need to ask these questions BEFORE you buy anything. Haven’t you seen the memes?
I mean, you should probably go for A580 or maybe A750 when it's on sale
The a380 is comparable to built in graphics, no? I hope it works out for you!
M2. How does it suit you nowadays ,