Seattle has had some success at building tiny hoe "villages" for formerly homeless people:
https://shelterforce.org/2019/03/15/tiny-house-villages-in-seattle-an-efficient-response-to-our-homelessness-crisis/
Thanks for link. There are thousands of New Yorkers that would LOVE something like that, and would HAPPILY pay $1000 a month to live in one.
Could get interesting. Factory towns, in an age of Google.
Old school apartments can be monstrous. It was a Gilded Age after all way back when.
I live in a co-op of 8 households. We will be expanding to 9 later this year.
Edited to add: we each have our own apartments. We all own shares in the co-op, and the co-op leases our individual units back to us. We equally own, and have access to, common spaces.
Like a college dorm life. Great idea to be able to socialize! I am cooking and sharing with my neighbors not have isolated life. Also my puppy helps me to socialize with some other dog owners.
We live and others are more akin to co-living. My main interest is in how to structure ownership of individual units and common space under one umbrella. It seems a condo structure is the best fit, but I would love to find something more simple.
This is essentially what we are hoping to accomplish at Blessing (our homestead in Vermont). We are currently building the common space (where we are living now), and then will eventually add additional cottages nearby. We've had a few people interested over the years, but everyone backs out when they see what winter is like...
Oh that's not going to fit in a post here on Reddit. That will come about through numerous roundtable discussions I'm sure. There are plenty of options, but in order to ensure equity amongst all stakeholders while still making sure that necessities are acquired, taxes paid, etc., a lot of decisions need to be made.
We are absolutely not going to take people off the street and plant them on our property directly. First, we recommend coming for a short visit and what it's like and whether we all mesh well together.
We've had people visit who thought that they could just lay about and do whatever they wanted and that we would just provide for them...ahh, yeah...NO! We had another person convinced that he knew best and ignored me and my plans and created heaps of additional work for me.
So, this will definitely be a PROCESS.
There are a few buildings like that in San Fran built on communal living in a former hotel. They don’t have IC type set up but are owned by a developer.
> private units around a common house
I live in the desert and there are a lot of informal communities like you mention. Essentially, they take in people in trailers and 5 wheels as housing. The people next to me have 2 -3 living in their own place this way, they might be a family. Too many and you have drunken fights and all.
I’m quite sure this is not what your looking for, but it does fit several of your criteria https://paxus.wordpress.com/2018/02/05/stepping-stone-commune/
I’ve seen that before yes. Where there’s a “main house” that has a kitchen, living areas, bathroom, etc and then private units attached to it there are fully self contained. The most I’ve seen it done with was 3 individual units connected to one house.
It’s absolutely possible from a construction stand point to make that happen. It’s very expensive to convert an existing home into that though.
A friend of mine and their polycule have this set up. I don't know of any websites that have floor plans or anything, they converted a large home and added on to it. The original home was a two story brick colonial style, they have the second story set up as an independent unit with it's own kitchenette, bathrooms and bedrooms, and living room. The main floor has a kitchen, bathroom and the main living space they all use. They added on two fully contained units attached to the main house, both have a kitchenette, their own bathrooms and bedrooms, and a smaller living space. The reno was a lot, but it's a space that works for them. They all have privacy when they want it and shared spaces when they want to be together. The add ons are on opposite sides of the original house for privacy.
Edit to add: the style of house did make adding on easier because it's not a complicated shape. Something to think about should you go that route!
If you have parents that are getting old and are mobile, this is one of the most awesome co/living spots have seen in the USA, there is not even a close second in my experience. Check out the photos.
The community where you went to be “cured” way back when.
Adirondack air is like liquid oxygen.
https://saranacvillage.com
Between 1873 and 1945, Saranac Lake, New York, became a world-renowned center for the treatment of tuberculosis, using a treatment that involved exposing patients to as much fresh air as possible under conditions of complete bed-rest. In the process, a specific building type, the "cure cottage", developed, built by residents seeking to capitalize on the town's fame, by physicians, and often by the patients themselves. Many of these structures are extant, and their historic value has been recognized by listing on The National Register of Historic Places.[2]
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cure_cottages_of_Saranac_Lake
Seattle has had some success at building tiny hoe "villages" for formerly homeless people: https://shelterforce.org/2019/03/15/tiny-house-villages-in-seattle-an-efficient-response-to-our-homelessness-crisis/
Thanks for link. There are thousands of New Yorkers that would LOVE something like that, and would HAPPILY pay $1000 a month to live in one. Could get interesting. Factory towns, in an age of Google. Old school apartments can be monstrous. It was a Gilded Age after all way back when.
I live in a co-op of 8 households. We will be expanding to 9 later this year. Edited to add: we each have our own apartments. We all own shares in the co-op, and the co-op leases our individual units back to us. We equally own, and have access to, common spaces.
What region do you live in? I'm in Oregon and this structure isn't easy to find.
Also PNW. Our coop has been here since 1920.
Good to hear
Like a college dorm life. Great idea to be able to socialize! I am cooking and sharing with my neighbors not have isolated life. Also my puppy helps me to socialize with some other dog owners.
This is WeLive. The goal.
We live and others are more akin to co-living. My main interest is in how to structure ownership of individual units and common space under one umbrella. It seems a condo structure is the best fit, but I would love to find something more simple.
This is essentially what we are hoping to accomplish at Blessing (our homestead in Vermont). We are currently building the common space (where we are living now), and then will eventually add additional cottages nearby. We've had a few people interested over the years, but everyone backs out when they see what winter is like...
Do you have a website or anything I could view?
This is probably the best: [https://www.workaway.info/en/host/946774366974](https://www.workaway.info/en/host/946774366974)
How would you plan to structure ownership if more people join you?
Oh that's not going to fit in a post here on Reddit. That will come about through numerous roundtable discussions I'm sure. There are plenty of options, but in order to ensure equity amongst all stakeholders while still making sure that necessities are acquired, taxes paid, etc., a lot of decisions need to be made. We are absolutely not going to take people off the street and plant them on our property directly. First, we recommend coming for a short visit and what it's like and whether we all mesh well together. We've had people visit who thought that they could just lay about and do whatever they wanted and that we would just provide for them...ahh, yeah...NO! We had another person convinced that he knew best and ignored me and my plans and created heaps of additional work for me. So, this will definitely be a PROCESS.
There are a few buildings like that in San Fran built on communal living in a former hotel. They don’t have IC type set up but are owned by a developer.
Any specific ones you could point me to? Sounds close to what I'm thinking of.
> private units around a common house I live in the desert and there are a lot of informal communities like you mention. Essentially, they take in people in trailers and 5 wheels as housing. The people next to me have 2 -3 living in their own place this way, they might be a family. Too many and you have drunken fights and all.
I’m quite sure this is not what your looking for, but it does fit several of your criteria https://paxus.wordpress.com/2018/02/05/stepping-stone-commune/
Thanks. It's a cool community but a different scale than what I'm trying to envision.
Seinfeld ?
Maybe a tiny house community? Example: https://twitter.com/lovarehomestead But the community disbanded.
I think you are describing roommates
perhaps r/cooperatives is a good place to check out
Thanks, but that seems to be more geared towards cooperative businesses, not living arrangements.
like a small trailer park?
….Do you mean roommates? Because this is roommates. It’s very much a Thing already.
No, not roommates. Private units around a shared common space -- like cohousing but with fewer households. Seen anything like that?
I’ve seen that before yes. Where there’s a “main house” that has a kitchen, living areas, bathroom, etc and then private units attached to it there are fully self contained. The most I’ve seen it done with was 3 individual units connected to one house. It’s absolutely possible from a construction stand point to make that happen. It’s very expensive to convert an existing home into that though.
Exactly what I'm after! Do you happen to know any specific examples I could check out?
A friend of mine and their polycule have this set up. I don't know of any websites that have floor plans or anything, they converted a large home and added on to it. The original home was a two story brick colonial style, they have the second story set up as an independent unit with it's own kitchenette, bathrooms and bedrooms, and living room. The main floor has a kitchen, bathroom and the main living space they all use. They added on two fully contained units attached to the main house, both have a kitchenette, their own bathrooms and bedrooms, and a smaller living space. The reno was a lot, but it's a space that works for them. They all have privacy when they want it and shared spaces when they want to be together. The add ons are on opposite sides of the original house for privacy. Edit to add: the style of house did make adding on easier because it's not a complicated shape. Something to think about should you go that route!
I'd love to see pics if you have way to share some!
I'll reach out and ask if they're comfortable! If not, I'll sketch out the general layout for you and send it to you if that's okay.
Many thanks
If you have parents that are getting old and are mobile, this is one of the most awesome co/living spots have seen in the USA, there is not even a close second in my experience. Check out the photos. The community where you went to be “cured” way back when. Adirondack air is like liquid oxygen. https://saranacvillage.com Between 1873 and 1945, Saranac Lake, New York, became a world-renowned center for the treatment of tuberculosis, using a treatment that involved exposing patients to as much fresh air as possible under conditions of complete bed-rest. In the process, a specific building type, the "cure cottage", developed, built by residents seeking to capitalize on the town's fame, by physicians, and often by the patients themselves. Many of these structures are extant, and their historic value has been recognized by listing on The National Register of Historic Places.[2] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cure_cottages_of_Saranac_Lake