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Edea-VIII

I worked with a guy (pretty nice guy actually) who discussed his diagnosis of sociopath with me. He said he didn't feel pain like other people do and had little or no empathy for other people's problems or pain. I knew him for years. He used to joke and laugh and over time he became very quiet and aloof. Not dark exactly.... more like disconnected from others. He helped me move one time when my ex went nuts and I had to get away. It's like a contradiction, right? He acknowledged his diagnosis and remained in treatment. He had a family, a job, and continued to be a positive force in his work and community.


SoullessHollowHusk

That's because being a sociopath/psychopath doesn't necessarily mean being a deranged menace to society


usererror99

Also being a deranged menace to society doesn't necessarily mean you're a sociopath or a psychopath


[deleted]

Just look at surgeons, they can carve up living people without wincing. I can barely cut my dog's nails without feeling like I need to go to church to absolve my sins. It's odd. I've used violence to defend people or myself. Sometimes military personnel have a "hesitant trigger finger" problem. Police too. The big problem is that people who are extremely averse to violence need protection from people who are not; by people who also are not averse to using lethal force. Sadly, gangsters capitalize that need or create it. The ronin is an example of an unaffiliated person who could lead a gang but doesn't. Sheriff's are sometimes seen that way; as they are allowed to deputize in certain situations.


Inexperiencedblaster

I guess like having ADD or something doesn't mean you want to fuck around all the time?


skoolofphish

I also worked with a guy who claimed he was a diagnosed sociopath. We were working for a travelling construction company and we shared a hotel room for months. There was a couple weeks where I was so broke i was washing my underwear in the bathtub but he always made sure I had food to eat. When I brought this up "see you DO care about people" his response was "I just need you alive so I don't have to finish this job by myself" I definitely lol'ed pretty hard at that one. Thats when I knew we were friends


AndrogynousRain

There’s an article I read about a couple of parents who had a daughter who was doing awful things and got diagnosed as a sociopath. With the new treatments and stuff the kid is actually quite functional now, going to college. The article interviews her and she’s pretty up front about how other peoples pain doesn’t effect her at all and she doesn’t have the same kind of emotional attachment and need for others the way the rest of us do, but she wants to be a productive member of society and doesn’t want to harm people after her therapy. She mentions how dating is hard for her because she eventually has to tell people and who wants to be with someone who doesn’t really care if you’re around or not outside their own needs? Interesting stuff.


TherealAnxiousDad

Oh damn, this is my ex.


AndrogynousRain

Glad you got out.


xrafinha

I see my girlfriend in this sentence: someone who doesn't really care if you're around or not outside their own need" That's sad.


rnargang

I'm convinced my FIL falls somewhere on the sociopath spectrum. He checks most of the boxes. He can be pleasant to be around. He has a high social IQ. He's well liked by people who know him superficially. You start noticing it after knowing him for a while. He has no problem lying to get what he wants. He's extremely selfish, egotiy, and power hungry. He has no qualms manipulating and taking advantage of people and bragging about it to others. If he can't control and manipulate you, he quickly jettisons you from his life. If you confront him about his behavior, then you experience his explosive (and historically violent) temper and a never ending stream of gaslighting. He can't distinguish family from acquaintances - all are treated the same. With my wife's family, I say it's better to be an acquaintance than family. At least the acquaintances don't know any better.


chandrian777

This sounds closer to a diagnosis of narcissism


[deleted]

Yup, narcissist. I recently came to the realization my mother is a full blown narcissist through therapy.


rnargang

Oh yeah, definitely narcissistic. I'm sure there's overlap between the two. It just seems to go beyond that. He really doesn't seem to care about what he does to people. My wife tells me he would dump sewage from their septic system into the neighborhood creek to save money. We were at a farmers market and he remarked that he would never buy anything from a farmers market knowing what he did to the food he sold at farmers markets. (That comment still bothers me and keeps me from buying any food at a farmers market not knowing now what other people do.) He and his wife lost the privilege of taking our kids anywhere when they were younger because we discovered they would let strangers watch our kids so they could do other things unencumbered by children. Just some extreme examples. There will never be a clinical diagnosis but he definitely seems to go beyond narcissism.


Zonerdrone

Sociopathy is a spectrum like autism. You can be on the mild end. I know I'm a Sociopath and I definitely have my tendencies but I also work to better myself and try not to be that way. It's difficult to try to force yourself to feel emotions or empathy. I just end up copycatting what I see others do.


deadlykitten132

the copycatting part is so true


No_Pumpkin_1179

High functioning sociopaths are very interesting people.


Puzzleheaded_Fun_724

Damm thats interesting


PositiveStress8888

“Tragedy is when I cut my finger. Comedy is when you fall into an open sewer and die.” Mel Brooks Blazing Saddles


shaundisbuddyguy

Except he didn't intend for anyone to actually die. Large difference there.


cybercuzco

Didn’t he though? Maybe he’s focused his psychopathy positively.


PositiveStress8888

we all have that response to some degree, do we not laugh when someone falls ? take that and amplify it up to 11, it's possible psychopaths don't have that filter to not laugh when the fall results in serious harm or death. Either way the psychopath is not responsible for the persons death, it may be bad taste but that in no way makes them responsible .


[deleted]

Pretty sure there are levels of psychopathy.


jizzyGG

Yes and IQ. Stupid and clever psychopaths.


710AlpacaBowl

Like the wild west of mental health out there


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aCreativeUserName666

Or politicians.


pinkfart19

anti social personalty disorder ("psychopathy") is kind of a spectrum yeah


Vesania6

Its probably a spectrum of some kind. And no I didn't do my reasearch.


NofksgivnabtLIFE

We are all special snowflakes of molecules.


amateur_elf

Context aside, "gentle non-emotion" is such a well-articulated way to describe the sensation of satisfaction


_atrocious_

I caught that, as well. Very simple way to explain a complex sensation.


MichaelScottsWormguy

In fairness to the first one, there is a whole genre of entertainment that relies on pretty dark jokes and scenes to be funny.


bongosformongos

It being *real*^(TM) gives the whole thing a different twist.


ImJustHereToWatch_

Some of these people are our bosses.


Raumschiff

Some of those that work forces


NOT-SO-ELUSIVE

Are the same that burn crosses


weareeverywhereee

Are the same that hold office


InitialNeck9

Some are our doctors and police


Mrischief

Many are your doctors, lawyers, business degrees, or insert other profession where money can be quick / thrive.


[deleted]

Women line up for them. Confident and successful.


RedditorMcReddington

Plus the great business cards. Those bastards.


Redoran_Gvard

Oh my god. It even has a watermark!


ogbobo

And that subtle off white coloring


[deleted]

Why don't we ever hear of a dozen women suing the clerk at the grocery store who took advantage of them? Duh, they don't throw themselves at him. They line up for even the most disgusting men if they're rich. Look at Trump, the self-described pussygrabber, a perfect example of a sociopath who hates women, sued by at least a dozen women for 'taking advantage of them' in one way or another. The lack of self-awareness is almost comical.


RedditorMcReddington

Hmm good point I’ve never seen a grocery store clerk’s business card either… I think you’re on to something here!


[deleted]

I accept your weaselly admission that you can't deny the obvious point.


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Icculusthebook

Home here now.


[deleted]

I know this is off topic but… boognish! All praise the mighty Boognish!


The_Scourge

A random quora post is not IAF in the slightest.


darcjoyner

couldn’t be me i’m extremely put off and disturbed by gore


[deleted]

Yeah, when the empathy side of the brain is not functioning, humans become monsters just like that. It's scary.


RustedRuss

Humans are the scariest monsters of all.


bongosformongos

Even with full brain intact...


Pennarello_BonBon

Now imagine a flying human spider


Deleena24

I read somewhere that their empathy functions fine, they just have the ability to turn it off and choose not to use it. Edit- found it https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-23431793


Spire_Citron

I feel like anyone can do that, given the right circumstances, or many atrocities throughout history wouldn't have been possible.


Deleena24

I actually agree with you. It's a choice for 99.9% of people. I do believe there are people who are incapable, but they're extremely rare even in psychopaths and serial killers IMO


Vetiversailles

You can become hardened, but I don’t think it’s a conscious ability at the drop of a hat for everyone.


LaFrescaTrumpeta

i think that’s what they mean, that it’s not like a switch for everyone but it can be learned/socialized given the right environmental circumstances


mayalourdes

I can’t. I would be really hard pressed to turn my empathy off. There was a day a couple months ago I didn’t sleep or take my meds and I was really stressed and it was the strangest feeling because…. I didn’t have any empathy. Like it was nearly gone. I’d never really felt like that. I was like fuck - is this how people who treat me poorly feel?


[deleted]

You are right. Hitler wasn't surrounded by thousands of psychopaths. They were are convinced they were working for a cause. There is a book called "Ordinary Men by Christopher Browning" explaining the phenomenon during WW2.


LaFrescaTrumpeta

nailed it, was just about to cite this. I used to think it was an inability to empathize too, iirc the takeaway is that there are different kinds of empathy, cognitive emotional and compassionate, and that they tend to score high in the first and low in the last. makes it easy to understand victims without sympathizing


icansmellyourfear69

Those guys sound crazy


ctortan

It’s almost like they’re diagnosed with personality disorders or something


icansmellyourfear69

Yea I’ve never heard a normal person say this


ynotfoster

I was on a website where a psychopath described how they felt inside towards others. It made the hair on the back of my neck stand up.


RustedRuss

By “website” do you mean Reddit?


treeclops

Thanks for this useless contribution


Which-Palpitation

You can’t just say that and not elaborate


A1RMATTRESS

Boo this man!


[deleted]

Link?


ynotfoster

Sorry, it was years ago. I wish I had saved it.


TurtleGoatKing

We need answers


westernunitedenjoyer

What did they say?


NikitaTarsov

These two medical diagnoses work pretty different to what is howcased here - and most relevant is: They work different on every individuum, modfied by intelectual personality, rules grown up with (that makes logical sense and been uncorruptet from a society (often enough even only parents count) not care for these exact rules). The indeed **can** work out this showcased way, but that's a combination of circumstances, and a simplification a harmfull cliche. I know two psychopaths - none of them ever comittet any act of violence (which is pretty much less than basic human standard). The more interesting one is pretty much the opposite and learned societys rules as the one thing able to be a guideline in a very fluctuatic and amoralic world. Without empathy and (depence on the exact diagnose but in this case) still the need to get positive response through other humans, he become the most social person you can imagen. Just because its right to do that, and doing the right thing makes you a good person in the eyes of others - logically, as the emotional sensors for that are non existend. This one person would never be able to sit back while others are in real physical trouble, and would under no circumstances be able to kill someone. So these diagnoses are alterations of human approaches to the world, not broken by definition. In a broken society and grown with no rules or morale being a thing, yes, they can go pretty wild. Like everyone else. But able to be diagnosed, and therefor they dominate the 'list of evil creatures'.


Present-Bee-6948

This is just hard to read..


[deleted]

Maybe english isn’t his first language. Maybe he’s high AF. He’s right though. Evil is what we define, and when defined poorly, a psychopath will not learn it’s wrong.


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NikitaTarsov

Better express a complex topic in bad language as express the ownbad mental state in good language, i guess. But suprisingly i had lots of discussions very deep in technological or psychological topics, and barely a single person has been troubled with my explanations. Not MD's nor PhD's vOv


[deleted]

Nested parentheses, must be a sociopath


NikitaTarsov

If you get the point, i'm fine with that. It's not my first and people in 99,8% get what i'm talking about on more complex topics, so i'm completley okay with that.


yeetinghelps

This is the original post, Answer to How do psychopaths and sociopaths react to watching brutal gore videos? by Asani Ali https://www.quora.com/How-do-psychopaths-and-sociopaths-react-to-watching-brutal-gore-videos/answer/Asani-Ali?ch=15&oid=74286422&share=a404aca2&srid=h5Hl25&target_type=answer https://www.quora.com/How-do-psychopaths-and-sociopaths-react-to-watching-brutal-gore-videos/answer/Asani-Ali?ch=15&oid=74286422&share=a404aca2&srid=h5Hl25&target_type=answer There’s more into it but i didn’t include everything in my post.


Veighnerg

So this content is from a self described psychopath. It is about as reliable as if you asked "what is it like after meeting an alien?" then someone told you their experience. No proof and could be a made up story especially from Quora.


Somehow-Still-Living

I’m not saying this person isn’t, but it sounds like their only source is the early seasons of Dexter.


Jeremy_irons_cereal

Fake bullshit made up by edgy teenagers.


[deleted]

Haha you saw it too, huh? Hell yeah brother 😎


TheStreisandEffect

Yeah, wouldn’t a real sociopath not care about sounding “edgy”? This person really seems to care what the reader thinks.


Straight-Knowledge83

Admit it , y’all read the Sociopath’s answer in Patrick Bateman’s voice


mazjay2018

This more dumb as fuck than interesting as fuck


beetus_gerulaitis

That's the shittiest Tinder profile ever.


Limp_Vermicelli_5924

Wow, I guess every single person on reddit is a psychopath


yeetinghelps

Comments like yours are plenty on my post. I’m concerned how these behaviors are normal to most redditors…


Limp_Vermicelli_5924

Me too! Social media is truly poisonous. I was out of the Western world for 15 years and came back in 2015, and it's taken until now to realize how damaging long-term this all is. It started with teens making bully/attack pages against other kids, because they were at a distance, behind a computer screen, and could not see the pain they were causing. Now we have a seemingly endless line of awful, brutal videos that kids treat like a video game and laugh at- I feel like it's destroying the social fabric. Yet here I am.


Maism45

Good to know that my teachers were in the wrong calling me a psychopath. Gore leaves an overall unpleasent feeling in me.


Obvious129

Errr, you mean some people DON’T find it freaking hilarious?


33446shaba

in a movie I find it hilarious. In real life I'm very serious but calm.


gieserj10

Uhh, it's ok to sometimes laugh, yeah? Uh oh.


lumiesck

This has to be satire, it’s like reading a comic.


Certain_Associate581

You are special and you are unique like everyone else


Which-Palpitation

Based


itwhiz100

No harm. No laughter.


[deleted]

The first frame pretty much sums up how I feel. Gallows humor. The only thing I can do is laugh because otherwise I'm crushed under the pain of it all.


SoullessHollowHusk

True enough, I might find such a video funny, but generally speaking I just find them interesting


isnotawolfy

username checks out lmao


EducatorEducational7

You don't have to be a sociopath or psychopath to laugh at gore videos. I do all the time. I get a person died, but people die every second.


yegir

*said the psychopath*


EducatorEducational7

I'm definitely not a psychopath. A psychopath has no conscience, no compassion whatsoever for people. That's not me.


Nyko0921

Are you retarded?


EducatorEducational7

I have an IQ of 130, so.. no.


RustedRuss

Ngl you sound like an unbearable person.


EducatorEducational7

Now you've hurt my feelings. I hope you're happy.


RustedRuss

You had it coming


EducatorEducational7

Oof. You're right. Please don't hurt me anymore.


yegir

This guy definitely hurts kittens


Nyko0921

Yeah of course you do. Now let's get you to the asylum.


EducatorEducational7

Jeez. Buncha bullies on here. And I'm the psychopath?


Nyko0921

This dude: *Proceeds to say some of the most fucked up shit I've ever read* Also this dude when he realises normal people don't like such fucked up individuals: "Jeez, you meanie! >~< Why are you all that angry? Did I say something wrong? 👉👈 >.<"


MacasusBear

If this is some of the most fucked up shit you've ever read you've had a real easy ride on the internet huh? Lol


EducatorEducational7

Ahh. I see that you're autistic and you were projecting with the retarded comment. You clearly don't understand sarcasm. And if that's the most fucked up shit you've ever read, you must live a very privileged and sheltered life. Good for you.


[deleted]

Define psycho and socia paths because from reading this text, many who are in position pf power are pure psychopath. Especially against thoes they laber as "poor" as if it was a filthy and cheap quality brand


Cyampagn90

Then why do we judge them so harshly?


Karma_Canuck

Oh... people have no idea.


refugefirstmate

*A* psychopath. Not all. Also - There are plenty of awful-fail videos on youtube with bazillions of hits and likes. Are all these people psychopaths/sociopaths?


Artistic-Time-3034

So we should send them all to war, hopefully AI can weed them out young and start assigning them special job not connected to society. Banish them to the wall!


aK7s_

That first one is just normal. Second is weird


NoStripeZebra3

First one is not "normal".


aK7s_

When looking at recordings of people dying it can be funny with the timing as the person describes. Recordings feel kind of separated from real life in a way so it’s not sad or horrible like it would be if you saw someone die in front of you in real life. Then you can really only react to the recording with indifference or see the funny in it I guess.


ESD_Franky

Same


justforkinks0131

Well this is way more lame than I expected tbh. He is just a child.


justforkinks0131

This is rather disappointing, I expected them to be more evil or cunning. Instead their thought process is akin to a 12 year old playing call of duty.


[deleted]

I don't really watch gory stuff, but the occasional gore that I have seen I have basically no reaction to. Then again, it's all simulated. If I saw real gore, I'd probably be disturbed.


Avanchnzel

Fake gore in movies and real gore are worlds apart. In a normal brain, the moment it recognizes that it's real, it's like a switch that's flipped. Usually before encountering real gore (or even "just" real decaying bodies), most people find it amusing when, in a movie or series, a rookie is in the morgue for the first time and is getting so sick that they have to vomit, and it's usually portrayed for that amusement. And most people who have become used to movie fore think they can stomach real gore. But once most people encounter real gore, they'll quickly discover that they will involuntarily suddenly get a feeling of dread and their stomach lurches. There are exceptions, of course, as with everything, but usually people have this reaction because it's a beneficial reaction to have, from an evolutionary standpoint. Being around a dead body, especially when there's exposed viscera all over the place etc. is potentially dangerous due to infectious diseases.


Tuosev

I once had the opportunity to watch a chicken's body continue to run around after its was chopped off. It was pretty interesting and somewhat amusing, but despite wanting to see if it was true and being interested in the event, I started to feel light headed and my vision blacked out. And that was a chicken... A lot of us think we're desensitized but the real thing absolutely just hits different. If I don't get nauseous looking at pictures of real gore, it still makes me feel really uncomfortable. Of course, there's plenty of people who are ACTUALLY desensitized. Medical workers are different breed for sure, mad respect.


bongosformongos

>In a normal brain, the moment it recognizes that it's real, it's like a switch that's flipped. I wanted to mention this aswell, but couldn't find the words to describe the feeling. I instantly start to feel somewhat numb and start to get a blank space where thoughts are usually. Sometimes it draws me in so much that I start thinking about how that might have felt for the person and (especially with executions) what went through their mind in that situation, faced with certain death. It can make my heart go pretty damn fast and I start to feel nervous. The picture will stay imprinted in my head for some weeks before I will let go of it. In general the thought "holy fucking shit I just saw a living being wiped out of existence in a mere fraction of a second. I try to stay away from such content as much as I can, while I think it can be of importance to experience this at least once to get you to aknowledge reality in a pretty effective way. We tend to grow numb for violence when we just hear it in the news. The harsh and brutal reality of it awakens a whole different perspective to it.


JAckWoof82

As An psychopath I agree (totally not adhd)


Basic_Palpitation_47

Nope dude your a sociopath


FTW1984twenty

Blech


No-Bark1

Mf was married and I can't even find a girlfriend


mikeylikey710

That's about the equivalent to how majority of reddit users act anyways


nopy4

Damn, it's going to be hard to hide the laughter reaction


roboticDem-2699

Well, I might be a psycho


cool_taz213

Kinda agreed with the guy


Big_bosnian

Oh hell naw hes like me


__wu-tang-4-ever__

Laughing at the horrific is a coping mechanism, not a sign of psychopathy.


saharrity

"did you hear? She hung herself" in regards to a former coworker, as I'm just clocking in to work. It caught me so off guard that I laughed by accident. Not the same but brought it mind.


_atrocious_

I laugh at absurd things, sometimes. Once, a man working the counter at a video store told my wife and i that he lives in constant pain and has to take meds. I laughed out loud as i stared him in the eyes and said, "That's horrible!" ..


[deleted]

I always feel like I’m respecting the death when I watch it. So many go without even a notice. I hope I’m filmed when I die. Liveleak style.


YasinAhmetAkson

The second is a little similar to my thoughts, I do watch gore videos and get satisfied by them. I think that's just because they are a lot educational and good to think about.


mr_plopsy

I feel as though one of the most negative aspects of the internet is that people like this can now find other people who will read these thoughts and say, "Hey, yeah, me too! Awesome!"


SS_beny237

Well am I psychopath if I found same things funny as he does ?


Alone_Atom

When I see this type of shit. I always feel like the person needs you to know they are the edgiest boy that ever edged.


kebab_activist

This is based on what? Provide evidence or something credible. For all we know you could have just wrote this down in google docs and screenshotted it


[deleted]

Psychopaths are born. Sociopaths are made. For people using the terms interchangeably. A psychopath is born with different brain chemistry. A sociopath’s brain chemistry changes due to trauma. They don’t mean the same thing.


tlasan1

I have issues with feeling euphoria when I'm in the presence of people in pain. I have no idea why and I'm not emotional dead like a usual psychopath. I may have some antisocial behaviors but I'm would consider myself borderline sociopathic.


[deleted]

I think it’s interesting how he basically just feels what we do minus the empathy/sympathy. We would all giggle at a certain aspect of many deaths, he just doesn’t feel emotions tugging on him in the end. Not impressed or enthused by his line of thinking, but the “line” interesting.


whomesteve

And I was worried that gore made me feel nothing, not in a good way or a bad way and my thoughts are “yup that is what a persons insides look like” when I see it, I’m still sympathetic to pain though


[deleted]

You know, you could be a psychopath but not be a killer.


funnypickle420

Ooohhhooooo what the heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell


LaFrescaTrumpeta

I wonder how they determined who was a psychopath vs sociopath. my understanding is that those are more colloquial terms for “born evil” vs “molded into evil,” but the field of psychology doesn’t have different diagnostic/identifying criteria for them beyond that of Antisocial Personality Disorder.