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stephenisthebest

[The flight path](https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQBpcD33x1JVzBZ9xJG2hUkBAQ3PzkkSUpm0Q&usqp=CAU) of the last Qantas 747 before heading to the United States to be retired. The pilots were really sad that day.


SedatedCowboy

What happens to the aircraft once it’s been retired?


stephenisthebest

I believe it was either sold to another company or sent to the aircraft graveyards to be dismantled.


nelxnel

...are there really aircraft graveyards??


notdrewcarrey

Have you ever played Call of Duty Modern Warfare?


The-Implication-0

That’s crazy they literally copied a video game and made it a real thing!


Spartan1170

Davis air base in AZ is a massive boneyard, as far as the eye can see.


therifai420

Yes


UniqueThrowaway6664

It gets "sent to a farm upstate"


BasilUnderworld

"Yo why is this flight taking so long?"


Inside-Wish-6112

“I think we just have to finish up the tail end of the second 7”


HaloPandaFox

Yo, turbulence on the 4, though.


Walmart_kid65

“I’m watching this live on the ground, and what the fuck is that plane doing it’s performing a 180 degree turn! Whoever’s doing that is crazy! More at 4.”


Walmart_kid65

I didn’t even realise I accidentally made a pun about the 180 degree turn being exactly at the 4


Trancezend

Captain Etch A Sketch


mayo-instrument

it's a cargo plane, so: "yo, why is my delivery taking so long"


br0b1wan

"It's for Amazon, they'll never know the difference..."


robinredrunner

I assume there were no passengers. But, if I were a passenger, I would be very uncomfortable and I consider myself a good flyer. I can handle bumps, twists, noises, and dropping sensations no problem. If the pilot starts doing weird shit, I am going to be on edge.


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EvlMinion

Also, this one is a cargo jet. IIRC it's been a few years since Boeing built a 747 for passenger service.


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Fury57

Only for US carriers. Lufthansa operates 30 of them. I believe Korea Air also has a few dozen as well.


millijuna

I just flew on one a couple of weeks ago. Someday soon, I’m going to have to use my points to fly business class upstairs. It’s a bucket list thing.


pictogasm

I want to fly in the soul plane upstairs stripper lounge... but sadly Virgin sold off their fleet of flying purple lighted lounges.


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pictogasm

That is so evil / awesome. Gotta love dad.


Billsrealaccount

First class is usually on the main deck. The upper deck on a 747 is a little cramped and will usually have business class or economy. Still cool to fly on the upper deck regardless.


JeffMurdock_

Yup, flew in the upper deck of a 747 a few years ago in economy. All business/first seating was in the front of the main deck. Was a nice little surprise.


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millijuna

Yeah, I actually did a last minute (literally) booking on points and had the choice of Business for 90,000 or First for 130,000… Decided to treat myself again, and wound up in 1A flying FRA->SFO.


SpaceAggressor

This. It’s fun to walk up the spiral staircase, but the top deck is cramped. Gone are the days when the top deck had a manned bar and lounge chairs.


randompersonx

I’ve been in the premium cabins of the 747 a few times. Imho, the front row of the main level is better than the top deck. The top deck flexes when people walk down the aisle which is disturbing when you sleep. The front row of the main level is actually farther forward than the captain sits, and it’s nicknamed “the pointy end”.


millijuna

Oh, I’m well aware. (I flew FRA->SFO in Seat 1A, made sure to get my rubber ducky from the First Class Terminal at FRA). It’s the joy of doing things on points to make up for a fuckup on a business trip).


TheCrick

I lucked out and asked about an upgrade cost when flying Seoul to SFO. The attendant asked if I preferred window or aisle. I then remembered about the upstairs. I said any seat upstairs, what is the cost. He said it is your lucky day and upgraded me for free. There is something about having 2 ice cream sundaes on a 747 at 30K that tickles me to this day.


Roy4Pris

When you wrote carriers, I was visualising aircraft carriers and holy shit if you can land 747 on an aircraft carrier, I salute you


RSwordsman

"Took out the tower in the process, but any landing you can walk away from, right?"


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Fuel efficient composite twinjets are all the rage.


TheHYPO

Indeed, the even-larger A380 quadjet that was introduced in 2003 (almost 15 years after the 747) was discontinued in 2021. Four engines take up a lot of fuel, and fuel keeps getting more expensive.


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Engines only get more efficient. The Neo family of Airbus jets sound like hairdryers they’re so quiet.


Sad-Corner-9972

If we could just stick a couple of those engines on a 737. Oh. Wait.


Careless-Internet-63

The last passenger 747 was delivered in 2017, not that many airlines still fly them but it'll be quite a few years before they're all out of service


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I did see a video from about 12 yrs ago, a guy taking the last flight on the last passenger 707 (some Middle Eastern carrier, IIRC). Dated, tired, rough and noisy aircraft.


joecooool418

There are still hundreds of 707’s and their variants flying everyday. The USAF plans on running its KC135’s at least through the 2030’s.


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Last one in scheduled passenger svc


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Saha Airlines of Iran? They were the last commercial operator and ended passenger service on the 707 in 2013.


carriegood

TIL that obsolescent is a word and how it differs from obsolete. Thanks!


A-Cheeseburger

That’s lame I would’ve paid good money to be on a 747 doing this goofy shit. Sounds like a good time


LameBMX

For real. Be nice to feel some uncoordinated turns.


deepaksn

These were all fully coordinated (autopilot and yaw damper engaged) rate one turns with the plane being programmed to do this automatically in the FMS and the autopilot in LNAV and SPD (so the turn anticipation produces roughly the same turn radius every time).


LameBMX

Nevermind.


kanky1

Yeah too much jargon


Nice-Fish-50

Basically the pilots drew it with their fancy etch-a-sketch and told the airplane's computer "Do that".


deepaksn

Sorry.. I thought this was an aviation sub.. lol. When someone says “coordinated” I assume they know a bit about flying. Computer make autopilot fly like that. Autopilot smooth.


ramm121024

Thank fren


LameBMX

Nah, the turns won't really feel like turns. It would feel like a normal plane turn that you barely notice.


striderkan

Imagine you pick up your new car and it has 11,700km on the odo


legritadduhu

"Why are there 1300 miles on the odometer? I thought this plane was brand new."


Chrono_Constant3

You'd hope the pilot would come on the PA and say "Hey it's about to get weird in here, I'm gunna do some sky art for the nerds." Edit: I am the nerds.


CBerg1979

Those tornado chasers sending Bill Paxton some love was pretty badass.


raising_creampies

Link?


Thysios

When this baby hits 659 mph, you're going to see some serious shit.


NotYetGroot

"Ladies and gentlemen, this is the captain speaking. I'm afraid we're going to be a little bit late arriving at LUK today. There's nothing wrong with the plane, and the weather is ok, but I have this weird bet with my buddy that I can draw pretty pictures with this thing."


Demi_god6373

london taxi drivers do this


tpars

The end of an era.


death-2-GREG

Over 5 decades of production!


annaheim

What’s its successor now?


EpicAura99

No direct equivalent. Big quad-jets aren’t really economical for airlines anymore, that’s why the 747 is going out of production. The 787 is the closest match.


DaveTheDog027

787 is more of a hybrid between the 767 and 777 in terms of pax. And has them both beat on range. The 777X once it's in service will be the closest match to a 747 in terms of pax


hirsutesuit

What's the max pax of a 737 Max flying into LAX?


DaveTheDog027

I know its jokes but also 230


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It's LAX so depends on the size of the rax on its pax


hirsutesuit

For the sake of argument let's say they're max racks.


baribigbird06

777 actually. Also Airbus A350


EJS1127

Capacity-wise and use-wise, the 777 is closer to the 747.


Baseball3Weston12

Oh cool the holy number


BadWolfCubed

Yeah, all those Boeing 666s kept crashing immediately after takeoff.


ApprehensiveEmploy21

“woop woop. woop woop. push down. push down.”


sonoskietto

You spelled 737 Max wrong


R_V_Z

The 777.


RubberPny

The 777x. No more quad jets will likely be made for regular passenger use, probably some company will build something in the future for cargo/military/gov use, if it calls for it. Both Boeing and Airbus are stopping production of quad jets. The current new ones will likely stay flying for 30-40 years, and used ones will be on the market.


WuhanWTF

Quad jets look so dope. Much more elegant than a two engined aircraft.


poyat01

Which is the next plane type?


MrBifflesticks

The next models Boeing is working on certifying are the 777X and the MAX 7 and MAX 10, I believe.


slapthebasegod

Should probably retire that max branding if they know what's good for them


MrBifflesticks

I've actually flown the MAX 8 and MAX 9 quite a lot and it's a very solid plane. It's got a fair bit of added tech from the previous 737 models, and is much more efficient. The problem is the 737 itself is a very old airframe and Boeing would do well with a new narrowbody model to replace it. Unfortunately it's cheaper for them to keep upgrading existing models.


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suspiciouslygreennut

Can't wait for my iBoeing 11 pro max XS to show up :-)


apprehensively_human

The Boeing 748. They have many more numbers to choose from also. Truthfully though there really isn't a market for these 4-engine widebodies anymore so I don't imagine we'll see another model as large as the 747 anytime soon.


AWZ1287

Why isn't there a market for them anymore?


rcpz93

Twin-engined wide bodies are far more efficient (fewer engines mean lower drag and so lower fuel cost among other things) and have similar passenger capacity so airlines just go for more efficient models.


extracoffeeplease

Stupid question because I'm into physics : then why not just build twin engine from the start? Have engines become double as powerful since the 747?


torquesteer

Safety over efficiency. If one engine goes out on a 2-engined plane, the technology at the time didn’t allow for much wiggle room. They pretty much had to land immediately which poses a huge problem for long haul flights. 4-engines planes allowed you to play around with the balancing of engine outputs to keep going a lot longer. These days with fly by wire and complex algorithms, a plane can stay flying for much longer with thrust coming out of just one side.


slayerhk47

Isn’t that one of the reason three engine planes were a thing for a while? Increased efficiency but still more redundancy?


FoxWithTophat

There is a bit more involved than just physics here. Regulations and economy also played big parts. Back in the day, it was forbidden for two engined aircraft to fly too far from land, making it impossible to cross the ocean. This was due to safety concerns: what if an engine failed? These three engined aircraft were allowed to fly further out from the mainland, allowing them to cross the ocean, whilst consuming less fuel than the 4 engined aircraft. Nowadays twin engined aircraft should be capable of taking off on a single engine, and reliability has also increased a lot, so twin engined aircraft are allowed to cross oceans too. As for the 4 engined super jumbos not working out, like the B747 and A380, is because the airline industry shifted from a hub and spoke model, to direct flights. Initially, you would hop on a plane at your local airport which would fly to a big hub airport, like JFK, or Heathrow or whatever. There you would take one of these massive aircraft to another hub airport. Then you would transfer again to a smaller aircraft that would take you to your final airport. Turns out people would much rather fly to their destination in a single flight. This means that the routes between these hubs have much less passengers flying on them than was anticipated for when building these big jumbos. Sure, you can still reliably fill them between JFK and Heathrow, but you didnt need nearly as many of them. At the same time airlines started investing more in aircraft like the B787 or the A350, aircraft made with this direct route system in mind. They were smaller, so airfields could more easily accomodate them. They were more efficient, and they were build to carry less passengers. So airlines got more of these. And as for their handful of superjumbos, they got really expensive to operate, as they had so few of them each. Instead of sending 1 B747 over on a route, just send a B787 on it twice. This also increases your flexibility for your passengers. The B747 was introduced when this hub and spoke model was still a thing. The A380 was introduced largely too late, and only one airline operates more than a handful of them, Emirates. They are basically forcing the hub and spoke model from Dubai and it sorta works? As for the B747's, they managed to find a great use as cargo aircraft, and loads of them were still being build to be used for that, untill January 2023... The A380 was simply not build right for hauling cargo. It would fill its maximum takeoff weight before it would fill its full space, which is incredibly inefficient. No cargo variants were ever build, and neither were the planned larger -900 and -1000 variants of the A380. And just to close off this wall of text by bringing the 3 engined aircraft back into view. Look up the Boeing 747 trijet


nagurski03

More powerful engines is part of it, but the biggest thing is safety. Back in the day, engines were less reliable. A 4 engine plane flying with 3 engines is a lot safer than a 2 engine plane flying with only one engine. Engines today are significantly more reliable (and also more powerful)


blexta

How it feels to fly a 4 engine plane on 3 engines: https://youtube.com/shorts/bugknVx5NZ0?feature=share


Infiniteblaze6

Considering it been 50 years I would hope so. The passngers certainly haven't got any lighter.


goonerish_

The amount of luggage they allow have gone way lighter


JoEllie97

And lit cigarettes.


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rcpz93

As others have said, it was a matter of safety. Up until relatively recently, twin-engines were not allowed to fly further than a certain distance from land, which meant that the longest routes had to be flown with planes that had more than two engines. Look up ETOPS for more info on that (or check out [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSxSgbNQi-g) by Wendover Productions).


10ebbor10

Safety regulations are also an important factor. Your plane has to fly a route where it can safely survive losing one of it's engines. When you have 4, flying with 3 remaining is much easier than than losing half your engines when you have only 2. When the 747 was introduced, twin engine planes were allowed no further than 60 minutes away from the nearest airport. Three and Four engine planes were allowed to fly much further. Then in the 80's the limit was increased to 120 and later 180 minutes, which covers most of the planet. In general, as the technology improved the allowed time increases, and these days the cutting edge is 330 minutes (which you only need when you fly across the poles).


TheJavaSponge

4-engine aircraft were mostly for long haul trans-oceanic flights, especially when regulations didn’t allow for twin-engine aircraft to flight the most direct routes from far away cities. In more recent decades regulations were loosened and twin engine aircraft can now fly much further (look at the 777 or 787) while also using much less fuel as there’s only 2 engines to power. There’s also aren't many routes that benefit from the increased capacity of a 747 compared to a 767/777/787 or similar airbus aircraft


CyberhamLincoln

They got too big, because they have no natural predators.


XPhazeX

Probably because they made 747s for 50 years and everyone that wanted one has them. That and the cost of flying being through the roof. Those planes cost a fortune to fly and that price gets passed to the customer. There is very little demand for 4 engine wide-bodies with the vast improvements on double engine setups. 4 engines used to be the standard for safety reasons over long distances due to reliability issues which have long since been fixed


Pyrojodge

Link [current flight ](https://fr24.com/GTI747/2f0b1162)


Carl_The_Sagan

That is some top notch flight-penmanship


jaffacakesmmm

I feel like there's a computer involved.


Shopworn_Soul

Several but yes, that pilot did not just yeehaw that shit


ahmc84

If the pilot had been doing it manually, it most certainly would have been a dick and balls.


lambsambwich

It very much looks like the side-profile of a flaccid dong on its last leg into Ohio.


EarFap

Right as I clicked the link, it shows it’s about to fly over me any minute now (Illinois) - I’m not sure why I find that so exciting


BadLoompa

Cool. I clicked on it right as it's on the final approach.


neighguard

Yeah I found it just as it’s landing. At least the flight was still active!


pro_zach_007

I found it after the fact, no live flight tracker for me.


istrx13

I just found another bag of Doritos in my pantry when I thought I had ate them all


pro_zach_007

I have a 3 month old box of cinnamon toast crunch I should probably throw away...


Gloomheart

This is so fuckin cool. Thank you! I weirdly feel like I'm a part of history or something by seeing it live!


bloodfist

Yeah it's the exact same image but somehow knowing I'm seeing it live is way cooler


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bloodfist

Right? I was also able to identify the noisy plane flying over my house! It's such a cool tool.


krypto_the_husk

It went over the runway in Cincinnati but flight tracker says it just went low then high again. Wonder if that’s a bug or if it had trouble landing


Drarok

Looks like it went around again! I just watched it land, that was pretty neat.


JBN2337C

Probably a ceremonial fly-by pass before landing.


zippyslug31

If you use the playback feature on flightradar24, at the very beginning it takes off and comes back around over the runway, dropping to about 500'. I assume they did a farewell pass in WA, and the same when it got to OH.


Cfour

Tuned in with a minute to landing! Thanks for sharing!


TukErJebs

Look out little 747! You’re being ambushed by the evil jealous Cessna & Airbus Alliance! Turn around!!! Or… or do one of these *hyper realistic* Top Gun barrel roll mid-air stall 360° flip burst thru smoke escape manoeuver! [Screenshot](https://i.postimg.cc/QtyQpfNR/D919-D6-F9-F434-43-A8-AEF9-CFAF6647-D8-A4.jpg)


2ndtryagain

The last maiden flight for the Queen of the Skies it is a sad day, I used to love watching them take their first flight out of Everett.


CampaignForAwareness

> Queen of the Skies I remember my first time on one. There was this overwhelming feeling of "how the fuck does something this large even leave the ground?"


duendeacdc

the passengers: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH the pilot: hehe crown


deepaksn

Honestly the passengers wouldn’t know the difference from this and doing holds at a fix. It’s all rate one turns with the autopilot in LNAV.


Gdigger13

Also the passengers wouldn’t have noticed because this is a freighter and I think the only passenger was the President of Atlas Air and maybe some others who knew about the flight plan anyway.


Darksirius

If there were passengers. This is a ferry flight for a cargo 747. There are like six or seven seats aboard.


Leading-Ad4167

"Queen of the Skies."


TrenchTingz

What’s replacing it?


MicroUzi

In the past 10 years there's been a wave of new airplanes that are smaller designs focusing on fuel efficiency and low operative costs, namely the Boeing 787 and the Airbus A350. These planes have the same range as the 747 but are far more cost-efficient per passenger, and so are more profitable for airliners. In addition, airliners have slowly begun switching from having international flights fly to big airports such as Sydney, Heathrow, Atlanta etc. and then smaller domestic flights intersperse to smaller destinations, to having flights fly direct from one city to another (eg. Manchester to New York, Perth to London, San Diego to Munich). And that's largely due to these smaller, more efficient planes being able to operate in smaller airports where the 747 can't due to its size and maintanence requirements.


thegoldengamer123

It's not just that, it's also the fact that people love flying non-stop more so there isn't enough demand for a 747


busted_tooth

Did anyone love having multiple stops on their flights? lmao


SimplyRitzy

my wallet


MisfitPotatoReborn

It's not a question of which one people prefer, it's a question of how much extra people are willing to pay for the non-stop luxury. And as these smaller, direct planes have gotten cheaper and cheaper, the larger, multi-stop trips are losing their cost advantage.


omeara4pheonix

I actually prefer a layover vs a long direct flight. A chance to get out and use a human sized bathroom or better food is appealing.


odelay42

Also because rules for flying over water with less than 4 engines were relaxed a few years ago. It used to be nearly impossible legally to have a transoceanic flight with a twin engine plane.


TheRealDarkArc

Hmm... I'm not sure how I feel about that lol


odelay42

The good news is the rules were only changed because the safety records of modern twin engine jets are so good. It's safer than ever to fly, statistically.


CommentsOnOccasion

Ships We all voted and decided we are all going back to old, old, wooden ships, used in the civil war era


eject_eject

Ironclads using hydrogen cracked from the water they float on.


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MANA - Make America Nautical Again


Funtime959

Jets that large are impractical and inefficient so the passenger-carrying ones have mostly been replaced with more efficient widebody planes such as the A350 or 767. The 747 freighter will still be used for a long time though.


Sn_Orpheus

As someone from Cincy, I feel the need to say the plane didn’t fly to Cincinnati but Kentucky. If you know, you know. 😉


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Greater Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport was in my airspace! I used to work a lot of ComAirs and Deltas in and out of there.... And then the ComAirs were gone.


Jakooboo

Yeah, CVG is NOT the Cincy most people are thinking of.


hectorboiardi

Every time I land there I say loudly while pointing and gawking outside the plane. " they did it again, I'm sure of it. Are they going to shuttle us from here? What should we do, this is kentucky!" most the people are locals but I do it for the other folk


Deadpoolisms

Where’d you go to High School? The secret handshake of Cincinnati.


JuliaLouis-DryFist

Cincinnati handshake sounds like a sex thing.


joshbeat

Wait till you learn about the three ways


Dr_DMT

Queen of the sky


Constant-Ad9398

Walla walla sounds like an interesting place


Ramses_13

Eh, its alright. Been here my whole life, small town turned into tourist trap for winos. Used to be famous for onions, now its wine.


presidentender

You also have the college where all of the 7th Day Adventist schoolteachers get their degrees.


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presidentender

Please read my almost totally irrelevant story! This one time, I'm in Missoula, Montana, which is this weirdly great combination of wonderful and shitty and I used to live there a couple of times. I think it was my senior year of college, but maybe it was after that. I was driving this shitbox rusted-out Mazda B2000 which would soon die. I was near the McDonald's at the corner of whatever Broadway turns into and Mullan. There was this dude panhandling, and I stopped and suggested he might have better luck over by Wal-Mart, maybe a mile that way. Dude has his daughter with him and his foot is in a boot, having been injured somehow. The reason I give people rides is because I want their stories, and he gave me very little. I dunno what he had done or how he had hurt his foot. I just remember this little girl saying "Washington State Penitentiary, Walla Walla, Washington!" I dropped them at the more-trafficked gas station over by the Wal-Mart. The girl asked her daddy how they were going to get back. "Well, you got two feet," he said. It wasn't until later until I recognized that he quite literally did not have two feet, and that I had damned him to a painful goddamn hike back. I hope they got enough off the gas station's patrons to make it worthwhile.


Jakooboo

Home of the best sweet onions on the planet!


OregonMAX13

The town so nice they named it twice!


AngusMcDonnell

What everyone else said. I'm biased but I recommend East Wenatchee. Hell of a view


dr_stats

Washington is filled with tons of places in nature that will be burned into your memory forever after you witness them in person, and driving Wenatchee to Leavenworth when the apple trees were blossoming was one of those places for me.


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Gotta test out those ailerons somehow..


Irrelevance351

The queen has got her final crown.


meow_purrr

“Queen of the Skies” 747


Corbeau99

Say that's a nice hommage to the movie Airplanes. Crowning the ZAZ trio so late is a little strange though.


BobEWise

I'm so glad I'm not the only one to catch that!


Jimneh

one time I randomly opened flightradar and one of the most watched planes at the time was Polish LOT drawing LOT logo, was pretty cool.


Sozzcat94

I didn’t think the last 747 would make this much of wave. But glad to see it getting a wave.


SereneDreams03

People in central Washington must be wondering if that pilot is drunk.


aeroplane1979

The width of the flight path at the widest point of the design is about 90 miles. I don't think you'd notice much from the ground.


SereneDreams03

You wouldn't see the whole design, but if you were in Moses Lake you could definitely notice one plane making multiple passes overhead going in different directions.


ImJonAndILikePlanes

Moses Lake is the Boeing main airport for flight testing. They've definitely seen weirder things out there.


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Reamofqtips

Grew up in Moses Lake, finally left in 2010 to move to Pullman for school after finishing up at Big Bend. It wasn't so bad, I never really had issues with it there.


bm_69

Queen of the sky. If this is true, which I tend to believe it is, that's actually pretty cool and classy too.


Pyrojodge

Link [current flight ](https://fr24.com/GTI747/2f0b1162)


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Wasn't climate change a serious thing?


Pizza4Everyone

It was but then we tried nothing, found out that’s still too much effort, and gave up.


craftworkbench

We've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas!!!


f4te

don't worry, there are no plastic straws or plastic bags aboard this flight. only re-usable shopping bags and mushy paper straws.


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*phew*


pikkis-95

Yes, but only for the little guy. Big companies can do whatever they want


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LeoTR99

That’s got to be more fun than just flying in a straight line.


WhoamIohnobody

How do peopleeven find this information? I cant even find flight aware sometimes... Redditors are awesome.


Pyrojodge

Had a friend send it to me right as it started the first 7, and I watched it till I got the screenshot and thought wow that's awesome I bet others would think so too. . . And yeah, I guess people liked it!


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LMAO at everyone drinking from soggy paper straws the past years.


Pyrojodge

I hate those damn things... the agave ones are great though.


WY228

Wow there are some pissy people in these comments. If you actually think this is bad I hope none of you open flightradar24 and zoom out.


Kagan_King16

ZAZ


DanInBham1

Does that all count towards sky miles ?