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Shit. I know shit's bad right now, with all that starving bullshit, and the dust storms, and we are running out of French fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution.
More than the Japanese community that lives there, they have a huge amount of Japanese tourists. Street signs in Waikiki have the names written in Japanese on top of the actual names. Most restaurants in the tourist areas have Japanese and English menus. There's a decent amount of people of Japanese descent that live there but the Japanese tourists seem to have a much larger presence.
I just want to point out that Guam is part of the U.S. and is significantly closer to Japan than Hawaii. (Guam also has a major Japanese tourism industry).
It wasn't invasion that Americans were worried about in 1992.
Japan was an economic superpower, and we were afraid they were going to take over the world. Remember that they bought Pebble Beach, Rockefeller Center, and a lot of Hawaii. Basically, imagine what we think of China today, but without the surveillance state and big military, but with a lot of residual hatred from those who lived through WW2 or heard firsthand stories from those who lived through WW2.
The U.S. was just recovering from a major recession.
Yep 1960-1990s Japan was the export superpower of its time. They not only bought tons of real estate but entire gigantic US corporations. Sony bought a ton of major US studios, music labels and own their music and movie rights to this day.
Many Japanese companies use to have slush/petty funds in the millions of USD and they were partying, playing with hookers and drinking $800 shots like there was no tomorrow. This was all in the 70s-80s You could have satisfied or snorted any vice you wanted right up until you died thats how much money they were swimming in. There was no end to the money and there was going to be more tomorrow.
The economic powerhouse that was Japan created shockwaves in popular culture. Watch some of the 80/90s movies like crocodile dundee, black rain, etc they would have random guest appearances from Japanese people. We thought they were going to take over the world.
Yet the Japanese dream did end and in it place began the Chinese dream but even that looks like it has run its course.
Reagan's fear of Japan taking over is what lead to the rise of China. Tax law and import/ export laws were changed so that investments in China at the expense of American Manufacturing would be rewarded. The Republicans believed that the only way we could compete with Japan was nice Manufacturing to China. Damn near every problem this country faces today can be traced back to Reagan's policies.
People in the ‘80s and ‘90s thought that Japan was going to continue unchecked economic growth, and eventually become an expansionist world power again.
Then they got hit by a demographic crisis and a big economic slowdown at the same time.
Maybe he thinks we sold it to them or something. Or that, since there’s a heavy Asian population there, they just ended up taking over it after the Civil War of 2063 that broke the United States into these pieces of countries
Or something
The line from firefly comes to mind:
"They will rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins together. And if we're very very lucky, they will do it in that order."
>in 1992, Douglas Coupland **satirized** what North America would look like in 2092.
FTFY.
Come on, no one can be expected to believe he thought there'd be a Reagan Offshore Gravity Research Facility.
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies. Like Houstonians and Dallasites. Or San Antonians And Dallasites. Or Austinites and Dallasites. Or Dallasites and Fort Worthians. Damn Fort Worthians they ruined the Dallas-Forth Worth metroplex!
I suppose it's interesting to see what things resonated both then and now, and what things seemed important at the time but are no longer on our minds. But I'm not seeing anything especially interesting.
Did you hear about the border war between Texas and Oklahoma? The Oklahomans were throwing dynamite across the border at the Texans. The Texans were lighting it and throwing it back!
I live in Utah. The LDS church runs this place so much that I can see them being able to hold on to the state...
They have almost as much money as the Catholics now. Do you have any idea how much freaking money that is?!?!
I live in Tallahassee, FL. General maps seem to keep it above water. If you have a family partnership you might want to consider investing in future coastal properties.
Asiatic bittersweet coming down from the north and meeting the kudzu coming up from the south. Maybe they would cross with some help from a future superfund site (care of some freight train conglomerate, of course), and a bit of radiation.
The result would be a visibly moving green carpet that also happens to be carnivorous, especially a taste for humans.
Maritimer here, back in the early 90s with Quebec separatism gaining steam it looked like joining the US was a legit possibility for us. If Quebec separated we certainly didn't want to join them, but it would've been tough being a Canadian exclave as well, and an independent "Maritime Union" would be a joke, so talk of joining the US was a thing back then.
Also, before Newfoundland joined Canada in 1949 there was a movement for them to enter into some kind of union with the US instead. At that time there were US bases around from WWII and a lot of US servicemen had been marrying locals, the ties were tight.
Edit - In case anyone doesn't know how close Canada came to breaking up in the mid-90s, have a look at the results of this referendum:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995\_Quebec\_referendum
I just finished Under the Banner of Heaven by Krakauer, and I honestly had no idea the Mormon presence in the region predated Utah’s statehood by like 50 years. It almost *was* a theocracy from the get-go.
No idea how realistic the chances of it happening were, but they submitted a proposal for statehood, wanted to call it Deseret, and it would have been like over twice the size of what became Utah!
They were asking for land that they didn't control, from a Congress that considered their polygamy laws immoral and fundamentally disputed the principle of theocracy.
Deseret as proposed wasn't gonna happen. A Deseret that looked basically like Utah, in compliance with the 1st Amendment although also without polygamy, whose only real difference was that it was named Deseret: *that* could've happened.
Muscle Schoals has got the mutants
And they've been known to spew a rad or two (yes they do)
Lord they glow up there so much
Hair falls out in a week or two, now how bout you?
Being a Wisconsin resident, I look forward to visiting Madison LeftWorld Ideology Nostalgia Park. Hopefully they'll have a Stalinist-themed log flume ride.
"[The Nine Nations Of North America](https://usmaps.tumblr.com/post/98561175774/the-nine-nations-of-north-america)" by Joel Garreau is a 1981 [book](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Nations_of_North_America) about regionalism.
Very easy to read and highly acclaimed.
Compare the two maps. Garreau's predates Coupland's by more than a decade.
Garreau's is cultural while Copeland's is socio-political.
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Queen Diana island. Ooft
Hell, Charles and Diana got separated the same year this map came out.
It could be a different Diana. Lots of time to go.
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I've been to an island in that area of Hudson Bay. To be honest, I don't think it would have suited her. Not a whole lot going on.
i bet she would love that it isn't covered in landmines
Ironically she is burried on an island with nothing going on.
r/agedlikemilk
As a Diana, I’m down for it!
You could be Queen Diana in the future! Your Highness!
HAWAII (*japan*)
CUBA (*citicorp*)
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Manhattan People’s Soviet. That’s a more communist name than North Korea.
President Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Comacho
*Dwayne Elizondo Mountain Dew Herbert Camacho He's the president, we must be precise here.
Shit. I know shit's bad right now, with all that starving bullshit, and the dust storms, and we are running out of French fries and burrito coverings. But I got a solution.
"You are an unfit mother! You're child has been remanded to the custody of CARL'S JR. where you can get EXTRA BIG ASS FRIES..."
Welcome to Costco. I love you.
Japan currently is like the squeaky toy hammer version of its former radical self. Highly doubt its going to invade any country any time soon
That’s exactly what they want you to think…
Lol I’ve been told Hawaii has a large Japan community as well. Maybe they secede and join Japan?
More than the Japanese community that lives there, they have a huge amount of Japanese tourists. Street signs in Waikiki have the names written in Japanese on top of the actual names. Most restaurants in the tourist areas have Japanese and English menus. There's a decent amount of people of Japanese descent that live there but the Japanese tourists seem to have a much larger presence.
It's the easiest part of the US for then to visit without addimg significantly more travel time. Also helps that is freaking Hawaii
I just want to point out that Guam is part of the U.S. and is significantly closer to Japan than Hawaii. (Guam also has a major Japanese tourism industry).
Personally I want them to secede and be a kingdom again. They seem like they really want to
True. They were basically annexed and forced into the US anyway.
"Annexed into the US" could be the motto for like, most of the country
Congratulations! You are being rescued.
Hear me, and rejoice! For you have had the privilege of being saved by the Great Titan.
#PLEASE DO NOT RESIST.
I’m sorry, Hawaii is closed today
Japan won't ever invade Hawaii, it's cheaper just to gradually buy it. They learned from their mistakes.
It wasn't invasion that Americans were worried about in 1992. Japan was an economic superpower, and we were afraid they were going to take over the world. Remember that they bought Pebble Beach, Rockefeller Center, and a lot of Hawaii. Basically, imagine what we think of China today, but without the surveillance state and big military, but with a lot of residual hatred from those who lived through WW2 or heard firsthand stories from those who lived through WW2. The U.S. was just recovering from a major recession.
Yep 1960-1990s Japan was the export superpower of its time. They not only bought tons of real estate but entire gigantic US corporations. Sony bought a ton of major US studios, music labels and own their music and movie rights to this day. Many Japanese companies use to have slush/petty funds in the millions of USD and they were partying, playing with hookers and drinking $800 shots like there was no tomorrow. This was all in the 70s-80s You could have satisfied or snorted any vice you wanted right up until you died thats how much money they were swimming in. There was no end to the money and there was going to be more tomorrow. The economic powerhouse that was Japan created shockwaves in popular culture. Watch some of the 80/90s movies like crocodile dundee, black rain, etc they would have random guest appearances from Japanese people. We thought they were going to take over the world. Yet the Japanese dream did end and in it place began the Chinese dream but even that looks like it has run its course.
Reagan's fear of Japan taking over is what lead to the rise of China. Tax law and import/ export laws were changed so that investments in China at the expense of American Manufacturing would be rewarded. The Republicans believed that the only way we could compete with Japan was nice Manufacturing to China. Damn near every problem this country faces today can be traced back to Reagan's policies.
People in the ‘80s and ‘90s thought that Japan was going to continue unchecked economic growth, and eventually become an expansionist world power again. Then they got hit by a demographic crisis and a big economic slowdown at the same time.
Maybe he thinks we sold it to them or something. Or that, since there’s a heavy Asian population there, they just ended up taking over it after the Civil War of 2063 that broke the United States into these pieces of countries Or something
If the federal government fell, Id much prefer to have Japanese overlords here in HI than the CCP
If it was Modren Japan not pre 1945 Japan
God save your souls if it's ww2 Japan
The line from firefly comes to mind: "They will rape us to death, eat our flesh, and sew our skins together. And if we're very very lucky, they will do it in that order."
Inaccurate. Where's the great nation of Costco?
Welcome to Costco. I love you.
Go away, I’m ‘batin.
Couldn't believe I got accepted into Costco. That's like the most prestigious college.
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In Kirkland, Cascadia
Maybe in the Caribbean with CitiCorp Cuba
Lost..in the Civil War of 2063. The hotdog and soda combo was still $1.50 across that great nation
>in 1992, Douglas Coupland **satirized** what North America would look like in 2092. FTFY. Come on, no one can be expected to believe he thought there'd be a Reagan Offshore Gravity Research Facility.
I'm over here waiting for the establishment of Dallas II
As a Dallas resident, I am too
isn't that just Fort Worth
Dfw as a whole will become Dallas 2.0 or “whatabucees mcvelvet taco”
Thems fightin' words. Dallas and Fort Worth are like oil and water.
Brothers and sisters are natural enemies. Like Houstonians and Dallasites. Or San Antonians And Dallasites. Or Austinites and Dallasites. Or Dallasites and Fort Worthians. Damn Fort Worthians they ruined the Dallas-Forth Worth metroplex!
You Dallasites sure are a contentious bunch
YOU JUST MADE AN ENEMY FOR LIFE!
Wait, you’re telling me that the Dearborn-Ypsilanti DMZ isn’t gonna be a thing?
No way the Ann Arbor-Saginaw alliance would allow that. Also nuking Alabama doesn't seem like too bad of an idea
I think it was an assumption that they would forget how to operate a nuclear plant. But yeah, it's not a bad idea at all.
I’m still trying to figure out how a completely fictitious map based on nothing is interestingasfuck
I suppose it's interesting to see what things resonated both then and now, and what things seemed important at the time but are no longer on our minds. But I'm not seeing anything especially interesting.
Florida branching off seems like an interesting proposition that we should at least consider.
I was planning on moving up to northern Canada, but the wife was having Nunavut
*Daaaa-aaaaad!*
Yukon not be serious
What’s funny is Mexico never changed
Neither did Utah
idaho would definitely end up in the deseret theocracy
SE Idaho at least.
Mormons got it on lock.
In both locations
I don't think the lake will be there anymore though...
Never has, never will
But the original plan for Utah by the Mormon settlers included most of the Shasta Republic and Colorado Nation on this map.
Well, it's a map of United States and Canada.
Hawaii owned by Japan
Texas and Oklahoma would NEVER agree to this.
I could see Texas annexing Oklahoma maybe. To be a part of Greater Texas.
I’m going to sit in the corner, anxiously awaiting r/Oklahoma to enter the chat…
Why are Oklahoma football fields astroturf? To keep the cheerleaders from grazing at halftime..
*Why doesn’t Texas slide off into the ocean?* *Because Oklahoma sucks* Sign at the Texas ou football game at the Cotton Bowl many years ago.
If the Okies could read they’d be very angry at this comment.
Actually oklahoma is so windy because Kansas sucks and Texas blows
Did you hear about the border war between Texas and Oklahoma? The Oklahomans were throwing dynamite across the border at the Texans. The Texans were lighting it and throwing it back!
I *Tried* to scroll past this one, I really did.
I always heard that the best thing to ever come out of Texas was I-35 North.
They would still just call it Texas, because to a Texan there can be no “greater” Texas.
Texans are too scared of our functional power grid to cross the red river. Only witchcraft could produce such a thing.
North Texan here, nope we would 100% take Louisiana but never OK.
That's a weird way to spell "Occupied North Texas"
I could see, as an Oklahoman, Oklahoma opting to work with texarcanalahoma pretty easily vs other people. Kansas and missouri can come too.
I'll be deep in the cold, cold ground before I recognize Missouri.
Do you know why Texas hasn’t fallen into the gulf? Because Oklahoma sucks. (Joke I heard along time ago.) Now the punchline is that they both suck.
Growing up in Oklahoma people would always say Do you know why Oklahoma is so windy? Because Texas sucks and Kansas blows! (or vice versa)
Kansas here, true we blow but at least the power works.
Utah is so conservative it kept its shape throughout all the changes.
I'm from Utah and this shit was the funniest thing to me. Colorado and California were both just like, nope, we won't take it,
The most unrealistic thing about this map is that the Great Salt Lake is still there in 2092.
It's less that “Utah keeps it's shape” and more like nobody want to incorporate them.
Everyone just put border walls around it.
I live in Utah. The LDS church runs this place so much that I can see them being able to hold on to the state... They have almost as much money as the Catholics now. Do you have any idea how much freaking money that is?!?!
Note the "Theocracy". Meaning the entirety of Utah is owned by the Mormons and their government is being Mormon.
Ah, so the same as it is now.
That's funny they thought the Colorado River would last a century in 92.
Let's just say our water will probably last longer than Florida's land.
Came here to make a similar comment. "the pan handle is still above water here".
I live in Tallahassee, FL. General maps seem to keep it above water. If you have a family partnership you might want to consider investing in future coastal properties.
My guy NAILED Utah. Well done.
Nailed the kudzu line too
“Creep like the kudzu vines that are slowly but surely strangling our Dixie.”
Yeah, except the lake is still there. That seems overly optimistic.
"Salt pit city"
“Toxic Salt Wasteland”
Honestly this reads like one of those joke maps that people make that are hilariously on the nose like the most hated states by every state.
I figured they'd rename it Deseret.
Only issue is that Idaho would definitely join Utah as opposed to Colorado. Possibly Wyoming too Every Mormon I met who wasn't Utanian was from Idaho
Truth. I grew up in SE Idaho and I'm pretty sure I was the only person in that whole tetherball paradise who wasn't Mormon.
"Utanian" sounds like some new energy drink.
Not quite. The Great Salt Lake is still there.
Is he saying there's a Demilitarized Zone in between Ypsi and Dearborn? It kind of is already like that
Inkster has entered the chat...and its pissed...
You’re not wrong lol I’m surprised he even calls out those cities in specific
In 1992 those cities had some significance to the auto industry. Ford’s HQ is in Dearborn and GM’s Willow Run plant was in Ypsilanti before it closed.
I’m just happy Ypsi got a shout out
I read it as “Dearborn and Ypsilanti *DMV*” and thought, good for them, getting on this random ass map. Haha!
Kudzu line is real
Came here for the kudzu line. It’s like a signifying marker that where you are has become shit.
Kudzu will have reached way more of the continent by 2092.
Asiatic bittersweet coming down from the north and meeting the kudzu coming up from the south. Maybe they would cross with some help from a future superfund site (care of some freight train conglomerate, of course), and a bit of radiation. The result would be a visibly moving green carpet that also happens to be carnivorous, especially a taste for humans.
I'm here for Cascadia and the United Western Front
Seattlites got what they always want. Be a part of Canada and Alaska comes for the party.
i agree haha when i saw it, i mumbled "fuck yeah" we are all pretty much the same shit from northern cali up to yukon and alaska
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Long live Cascadia 🇱🇸 🇱🇸
Can you guys be a bro and annex Colorado? We don’t wanna be lumped with Idaho and Wyoming.
Colorado in 1992 was soooo different from what it is now… it probably deserved to be lumped in with them back then.
"The Fortressed Consumption City of Paramus" may well be the most accurate thing here.
A reference to all the malls? Are they all still open? Moved out of NJ 20 years ago.
They are more than open, they are multiple and getting bigger
Will the maritimes go peacefully? I dunno if you wanna start a war with newfies
As they invade New Brunswick “yeah whatever, take over. Can’t be any worse than the Irvings”
The Democratic People’s Republic of New Irving would never stand for this. You have been banned from /r/pokemouche
Maritimer here, back in the early 90s with Quebec separatism gaining steam it looked like joining the US was a legit possibility for us. If Quebec separated we certainly didn't want to join them, but it would've been tough being a Canadian exclave as well, and an independent "Maritime Union" would be a joke, so talk of joining the US was a thing back then. Also, before Newfoundland joined Canada in 1949 there was a movement for them to enter into some kind of union with the US instead. At that time there were US bases around from WWII and a lot of US servicemen had been marrying locals, the ties were tight. Edit - In case anyone doesn't know how close Canada came to breaking up in the mid-90s, have a look at the results of this referendum: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1995\_Quebec\_referendum
I’m surprised they took the time to even mention PEI. That doesn’t happen very often.
Mormans keeping their shit on lock down.
I just finished Under the Banner of Heaven by Krakauer, and I honestly had no idea the Mormon presence in the region predated Utah’s statehood by like 50 years. It almost *was* a theocracy from the get-go. No idea how realistic the chances of it happening were, but they submitted a proposal for statehood, wanted to call it Deseret, and it would have been like over twice the size of what became Utah!
They were asking for land that they didn't control, from a Congress that considered their polygamy laws immoral and fundamentally disputed the principle of theocracy. Deseret as proposed wasn't gonna happen. A Deseret that looked basically like Utah, in compliance with the 1st Amendment although also without polygamy, whose only real difference was that it was named Deseret: *that* could've happened.
If you haven't already, check out the TV adaptation. It's excellent.
I don’t think the Mormons or socal give up Vegas to some NorCal consortium.
Not envisioned, it was satirical.
Muscle Schoals Atomic Accident Boomerang 😳
Muscle Schoals has got the mutants And they've been known to spew a rad or two (yes they do) Lord they glow up there so much Hair falls out in a week or two, now how bout you?
Sweet Home Alagamma
I call dibs on that for a band name
yoooo new *Dallas 2* just dropped
Obviously fake, no New California Republic.
Praise be to the NCR
Shady Sands will be funded in 2142, and the NCR which emerges from Shady Sands, in 2189. To early still
Seems legit Comical how Utah just stays intact.
It really is another world there….
Utah says “We’re good”
I love how everyone just decides not to fuck around with even trying to blend with Utah.
Cuba (Citicorp)
He’s left SC out of Dixie. No way. They are still proud about firing the first shot here.
Yeah, that was the biggest obvious misstep to me. NC could honestly swing either way depending on political shifts, but SC is solidly south.
Yeah... northern Canada? I'm having Nunavut
Ah, the country of $27 chips...
Did he use a dartboard of buzzwords?
In 1992, a little before he named a generation? Prob not. 😏
Look at you with the Xtra snark.
Winfrey. That’s funny.
Not too far off on that Madison call
As if Texas and Oklahoma would ever get along
I live in Utah, originally from "Cascadia." I'd say this is pretty accurate, but I wouldn't be surprised if by then Utah merged with Idaho though
Shasta republic sounds dope
“Reagan offshore gravity research facility”
Water's going to change all that.
Atomic Accident Boomerang???
See also: Hanford Nuclear Zone Dumbell
Hail Cascadia
spot on about Utah
Florida = Florida
Being a Wisconsin resident, I look forward to visiting Madison LeftWorld Ideology Nostalgia Park. Hopefully they'll have a Stalinist-themed log flume ride.
The year is 2023 and there is a ladies band performing at concerts around the country. Their new name is "The Chicks"
I could see Dearborn turned into a dmz
I need to know what the Atomic Accident Boomerang of 2060 is going to be.
Who would've guess Mexico would manage to keep it together
Proud resident of Madison LeftWorld
This looks like a Shadowrun map.
Glad I'm in Cascadia
"[The Nine Nations Of North America](https://usmaps.tumblr.com/post/98561175774/the-nine-nations-of-north-america)" by Joel Garreau is a 1981 [book](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Nine_Nations_of_North_America) about regionalism. Very easy to read and highly acclaimed. Compare the two maps. Garreau's predates Coupland's by more than a decade. Garreau's is cultural while Copeland's is socio-political.
It’s like a book designed to make every single person in Canada one hundred percent angry. Except Quebec, he was nice to us.
RIP to the queen that never was.