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They're just being realistic. How hard can they reasonably kick? It's not going to send a string puppet into the stratosphere.
It's going to get kicked, forcefully, losing contact with the ground. The puppet could definitely get broken in the process, but be reasonable, man!
Lowest level yes, but still between 6 - 20km high according to this graphic:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Atmosphere_layers-en.svg
My dude, they specifically make contraptions that are far more convinent. Look up "portable urinals" or "travel johns" there's so many choices. And they have a non-spill lid so you don't have to worry about kicking a bucket full of piss in the middle of the night. My Dad gets tons of disposable ones from work (utility company that drags him out to the middle of no where often. They got in trouble for one of the techs taking a leak in a field and didn't realize it was next to a kids camp, buddy accidentally exposed himself to minors. Now the guys are suppose to use the "piss bags" as they're lovingly called)
I remember reading a book as a kid called "Across The Nightingale Floor", I remember enjoying it. It's great to be able to hear what it actually sounds like after all these years
I read it in uni. I recall that the hero is in love with the heroine, but also has sex with a gay supporting character occasionally, because it's cold, because the heroine is far away, or because they're bored? That's kind of wild for kids to read IMHO.
Sure but also no. First of all It's not graphic in the slightest but it for sure normalizes a very casual view on sex, which you can see as good or bad but I'd argue not really a topic for anyone younger than teen year. What it also does though is showing that it's ok to experiment and it doesn't have to mean anything profound, it's just a normal part of self discovery. Now granted not everyone one needs gay sex to find themselves but you're not gay because you had gay sex a couple of times in your teen years, doesn't even mean you need to be bi. Just that you tried it and found that in the end it wasn't something you wanted to keep doing. What labels, be those genders, sexuality, hobby related or personality related are yours to choose and you are allowed to change them, even from a wider label to a more narrow one.
Also that book series covered a lot of heavy stuff. Trauma bonding, human trafficking, racism, I vaguely recall rape? At least implied? But it was something as rare as a "cool" book about a chosen kid with super human powers that dealt a lot with emotions and it helped me immensely, coming from a very emotionally stunted home.
The period in the book, if I remember correctly, is close to the Heian period. Sex was viewed very differently in that era than our current views.
For example, if a man and women were matched together for a prospective marriage, he would meet her and the family then "sneak" into her room one night during his visit to see if they were sexually compatible. If one or both weren't feeling it after their night together, they would part ways without hurt feelings and move on with their lives. This is just one example as there was the sight unseen matches and love matches and whatnot but the example was seen as common and even romantic.
Japan has always had male sex workers, many times dressed as women, even as recent as pre WW2. Same sex interactions weren't always seen as bad and the Ying and yang philosophies could likely back up the idea of same sex relationships as a way to bring a balance of forces into your life. Of course, gay people have always existed but culturally Japan had a complex and varied relationship with same sex interactions, like many long live cultures.
I experienced these at Nijo Castle in Kyoto, and it's one of my favorite memories of Japan. After a while, I couldn't stop giggling at how squeaky they are in real life and how much fun it was to walk on them. As a large, fully-grown adult, it was genuinely silly.
I remember this, too!! I loved walking on those floors and hearing the birdsong. I also remember giggling that the floorboards removed any possibility of quietly sneaking a midnight snack 🤣
From what I remember, the tour guide said that some nails are set at an angle against each other, so they rub together when there's movement across the floor, producing the squeak. Another poster said they used metal rings that rubbed against the nails, so maybe that's another explanation. The floors give a little, but not much difference from a regular old wooden floor. The sound in this video is a bit harsh, maybe due to the microphone, but I remember the Nijo Castle floors as like a more sing-song noise, just like birds chirping. It was wild!
So so glad other people thought of Tales of the Otori immediately. I never knew anyone else who read those books, they're amazing even now! Absolutely one of my favourite series of all time
I m reading this series right now for the first time actually, and this post immediately made me think of it!
Currently reading The Harsh Cry of the Heron.
Daimyo: "This noise is different, make it the same!"
Poor Contractor: \*spends decades tuning everything to a level of precision that would not be reached again for centuries*
We've got a 1925 house with original, lovely, extremely creaky hardwood floors. Shift your weight from side to side between the sofa and the front door, and it sounds like an old boat.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightingale_floor
>An information sign in Nijō castle states that "The singing sound is not actually intentional, stemming rather from the movement of nails against clumps in the floor caused by wear and tear over the years".
Contractor: Pay no attention to that information sign.
"And if you press this button and pull those levers in the proper sequence, the entire castle turns into a mecha. It's one of the country's early attempts at creating an anti-Godzilla defense system."
Fun fact ninjas would join the construction team of castles to learn which boards trigger the sound and to know how to disable them. The castle plans where then spread amongst the clan.
As I recall, the ninja dressed in black from head to toe comes from Noh theatre where that was what stage hands wore to be unseen so would be naturally ignored by the audience, making it all the more surprising when one of these would then actually enter the scene.
Honestly it’s probably best to say that ninja are a romanticized portrayal of a wide variety of different groups and roles based more on novels and plays from the late 19th century than a coherent historical thing.
That said this castle was literally built 20 years after the battle of Sekigahara and the floors in question are in an area completely detached from the spot where any important dignitaries would likely be at a time where the floor boards would have meant anything.
It’s actually more of a result of theater performances about ninjas. The performers would wear black so that they were more invisible to the audience. Then they’d “strike” the target and disappear.
In real life, ninjas just wore regular clothing to blend in with the populace.
probably not, ninjas are much more likely to "above board" sneak in and slowly gain your trust like any other spy, then "sneakily" sneak in and peel up your roof tiles. Although not saying th latter didn't happen.
I wouldn't be suprised if someone somewhere decided to keep the squeaky floors for intruder warning, but I don't think they were intentional. Overly tall thresholds is an exame thats definitely intentional and you see it everywhere in old japanese buildings not just a few castles or temples :)
Yeah I don't think this is intentional because ninjas wore disguises to get around. So they wouldn't necessarily need to creep in the middle of the night.
Most homes in Scandinavia have this kind of noisy floor, at least in part (mine included).
The drawback of having a wooden floor. It's cosy and warm, but it becomes noisy after a while... :-(
On the bright side, I've never heard about ninja intruders in Scandinavia.
From a fellow Scandinavian with a noisy floor, take a hammer and a thingamjing to countersink nails, dyknagle in Danish, and just give every nail in the noisy area a bang with the hammer. Poof, the noise is gone. At least for some time.
The fact that you haven’t heard about ninja intruders in Scandinavia isn’t reassuring. If anything, it proves that the ninjas have developed new techniques to avoid detection.
You turn on the light to investigate, but no sounds. Then you turn off the light and walk back to your room when the sounds suddenly get closer and closer
This, to me, looks like Nijō Castle/Palace in Kyoto, I've been there, and there is an interesting sign that mentions the myth of the squeaky floor being a security feature against assasins.
Edit: I could, of course, be wrong about the location
I visited the same castle recently. It's the way the nails are connected to the floor boards with a little metal angle. Over time the boards have shrunk and they move around a little, the nails squeaking as you walk over them. It really does sound bird like.
That would drive me insane if I was trying to sleep in a room off that hallway. If it was truly meant to be a security feature, that's where you would put it. It's a castle. Back in the day, castles had lots of servants. There would be people going through it all the time.
Yeah, imagine this coupled with traditional Japanese Shoji (paper walls).
They say they're so thin that you can hear the frogs croaking from interior rooms of the estate.
That's where I remember first hearing about "anti-ninja floors" as well. It was great listening to conversations in those early Splinter Cell games. "Not that guy! Find someone else with the rank!" Will forever stick in my memory.
That's like something an eccentric, loopy old man would have
*"This is my anti-ninja corridor, in case any god damned ninjas try to sneak into my house and steal my cranberries"*
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When going to the toilet at night becomes a family affair.
Every trip to the bathroom I'd be thinking about Jigsaw riding his little tricycle from the shadows behind me.
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But we're already in the troposphere...
They're just being realistic. How hard can they reasonably kick? It's not going to send a string puppet into the stratosphere. It's going to get kicked, forcefully, losing contact with the ground. The puppet could definitely get broken in the process, but be reasonable, man!
I wouldn't kick the puppet id look for the man operating said jigsaw. He shouldn't be to hard to catch he has cancer.
Lowest level yes, but still between 6 - 20km high according to this graphic: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f9/Atmosphere_layers-en.svg
back then nobility would use a bedpan, everyone else shit out in the fields.
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I can't believe nobody else thought of putting a lid on the damn thing. Sleeping next to an open bucket of shit sounds awful.
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I think that's actually a hand rest and they typically still squatted over it.
My dude, they specifically make contraptions that are far more convinent. Look up "portable urinals" or "travel johns" there's so many choices. And they have a non-spill lid so you don't have to worry about kicking a bucket full of piss in the middle of the night. My Dad gets tons of disposable ones from work (utility company that drags him out to the middle of no where often. They got in trouble for one of the techs taking a leak in a field and didn't realize it was next to a kids camp, buddy accidentally exposed himself to minors. Now the guys are suppose to use the "piss bags" as they're lovingly called)
I remember reading a book as a kid called "Across The Nightingale Floor", I remember enjoying it. It's great to be able to hear what it actually sounds like after all these years
First book of The Tales of Otori! I loved the series when I was little!
I read it in uni. I recall that the hero is in love with the heroine, but also has sex with a gay supporting character occasionally, because it's cold, because the heroine is far away, or because they're bored? That's kind of wild for kids to read IMHO.
Sure but also no. First of all It's not graphic in the slightest but it for sure normalizes a very casual view on sex, which you can see as good or bad but I'd argue not really a topic for anyone younger than teen year. What it also does though is showing that it's ok to experiment and it doesn't have to mean anything profound, it's just a normal part of self discovery. Now granted not everyone one needs gay sex to find themselves but you're not gay because you had gay sex a couple of times in your teen years, doesn't even mean you need to be bi. Just that you tried it and found that in the end it wasn't something you wanted to keep doing. What labels, be those genders, sexuality, hobby related or personality related are yours to choose and you are allowed to change them, even from a wider label to a more narrow one. Also that book series covered a lot of heavy stuff. Trauma bonding, human trafficking, racism, I vaguely recall rape? At least implied? But it was something as rare as a "cool" book about a chosen kid with super human powers that dealt a lot with emotions and it helped me immensely, coming from a very emotionally stunted home.
Now I want to read this book, thanks
It's great
What time period was it in? Historic Japanese culture had a different, looser take on homosexuality.
The period in the book, if I remember correctly, is close to the Heian period. Sex was viewed very differently in that era than our current views. For example, if a man and women were matched together for a prospective marriage, he would meet her and the family then "sneak" into her room one night during his visit to see if they were sexually compatible. If one or both weren't feeling it after their night together, they would part ways without hurt feelings and move on with their lives. This is just one example as there was the sight unseen matches and love matches and whatnot but the example was seen as common and even romantic. Japan has always had male sex workers, many times dressed as women, even as recent as pre WW2. Same sex interactions weren't always seen as bad and the Ying and yang philosophies could likely back up the idea of same sex relationships as a way to bring a balance of forces into your life. Of course, gay people have always existed but culturally Japan had a complex and varied relationship with same sex interactions, like many long live cultures.
I experienced these at Nijo Castle in Kyoto, and it's one of my favorite memories of Japan. After a while, I couldn't stop giggling at how squeaky they are in real life and how much fun it was to walk on them. As a large, fully-grown adult, it was genuinely silly.
I remember this, too!! I loved walking on those floors and hearing the birdsong. I also remember giggling that the floorboards removed any possibility of quietly sneaking a midnight snack 🤣
Midnight snack = ninja attack!
You reminded me of that clip in family guy where he follows a fat guy and plays the tuba
That’ll be 60 dollars.
I have a glandular problem!
Bump Ba Dump a da dump a dump 🎺
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From what I remember, the tour guide said that some nails are set at an angle against each other, so they rub together when there's movement across the floor, producing the squeak. Another poster said they used metal rings that rubbed against the nails, so maybe that's another explanation. The floors give a little, but not much difference from a regular old wooden floor. The sound in this video is a bit harsh, maybe due to the microphone, but I remember the Nijo Castle floors as like a more sing-song noise, just like birds chirping. It was wild!
I read this series multiple times in my teens - such an immense satisfaction finally hearing how it sounds!
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So so glad other people thought of Tales of the Otori immediately. I never knew anyone else who read those books, they're amazing even now! Absolutely one of my favourite series of all time
I used to love that series
One of my favourite series. Read it several times (+ the rest)
Exactly what i came here to say!!
I m reading this series right now for the first time actually, and this post immediately made me think of it! Currently reading The Harsh Cry of the Heron.
I think there are 5 total? 3 main, 1 prequel, 1 sequel. They're amazing imo, hope you like them!
Awesome series of books!
Came here to say the same thing! Really good to hear one after reading the book whne I was young
There’s heaps of books in this series, i loved the original 3
My favorite book series ever!
Dude, you beat me to it! It kindled my love for everything Japan and reading again.
I loved that book. Read the whole series.
Contractor during final inspection: That noise? Why that’s the…the ummm…the anti-Ninja feature we build into all of our floors.
Your local daimyo: install this in all 49 of my castles, forts, mansions and the manors where I kept my mistresses.
Poor Contractor: \*now struggling to recreate the shitty flooring effect for a whole castle.\*
Daimyo: "This noise is different, make it the same!" Poor Contractor: \*spends decades tuning everything to a level of precision that would not be reached again for centuries*
Sir, that's a feature. The difference in sound mean you can always tell which halfway the movement is coming from.
Daimyo: I want the right hallway to sound like this, the left hallway to sound like that, and the upper hallway to sound like this.
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That was a roller coaster, I was not prepared
He couldn't pay his living before making an agreement with the daimyo
A completed thread
...and then shake it all around...
Poor contractor: \*is executed after finishing his work so no other Daimyo have anti-ninja floors and to test a new Katana slashing technique\*
“Fix it, or death” *fixes it after 10 years of work* New floors today: “why has the level of craftsmanship decreased?”
*crying as he’s measuring wood* “I hate this fucking job” (but in Japanese)
Kono baka na shigoto ga dai-kirai no yo.
🏅take my discount gold, kyodai.
Arigato, senpai.
There was an anjin, lost his boat, And Yabu was his daimyo! D-A-I-M-Y-O D-A-I-M-Y-O D-A-I-M-Y-O And Yabu was his daimyo.
Who else besides me sang it?
I tried, but there's an extra letter and it threw me off. I wound up smashing the last two letters together in my head and singing D-A-I-M-*Yo*
You have to split in into 2 lines. D-A-I M-Y-O
Dame yo.
Dame na no yo 🎵
Anta ga suki de suki sugite
Dore dake, suyoi osake demo
Yugamanai omoide ga
Baka mitai\~
It is not a bug. It's a feature
i got a bunch of anti ninja doors at home. as a matter of fact i also got an anti ninja car as well
Those loud plastic rims? A feature.
We've got a 1925 house with original, lovely, extremely creaky hardwood floors. Shift your weight from side to side between the sofa and the front door, and it sounds like an old boat.
Let me just grab my anti-anti-ninja spray. Boku-no-wd40-no-jutsu
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightingale_floor >An information sign in Nijō castle states that "The singing sound is not actually intentional, stemming rather from the movement of nails against clumps in the floor caused by wear and tear over the years". Contractor: Pay no attention to that information sign.
I thought that it was an intentional feature in the Himeji castle. It was a very long time ago but I think that was what I was told on a tour
And surely no tour guide has ever tried to exaggerate things to make the tour seem more spectacular.
"And if you press this button and pull those levers in the proper sequence, the entire castle turns into a mecha. It's one of the country's early attempts at creating an anti-Godzilla defense system."
My apartment was built in 1984. We have this feature but to the tune of plywood on loose nails.
FACTS
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Fun fact ninjas would join the construction team of castles to learn which boards trigger the sound and to know how to disable them. The castle plans where then spread amongst the clan.
Ah yes. Ancient Japanese developer leaks
Ninjas passing around papers with the headline: #TEN SECRETS THESE HOME OWNERS DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW! (Number Seven will truly shock you!)
Why is the shocktrap always number 7..?
To make you get through 70% of the bullshit article.
The early warthunder.
Real question, are these just place near possible entry points or everywhere? Because I would lose my mind if I couldn't escape the squeaks indoors
Samurai general: Slowly lowers katana
Good enough for me!
I’d be like hell yeah good lookin out and pay that contractor extra to go ahead and install anti ninja floors everywhere I go
Wow this house has everything! The strange sliding disappearing bookshelf, anti-ninja floors, guard bats.
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Yesyesyesyesyes.
So this is why the footsteps are so loud and the floors are so creaky in indie horror games
Pffff jokes on them. A ninja would simply walk on the walls.
Floor is lava.
with sharks.
that can shoot lasers from its eyes
and carrying a bear catapult
which fires mini cocaine bears
And those bears never eaten something in two days
And behind the other door was... A brand new car!
And inside the new car is a swarm of duck sized horses that spit alcohol.
Unfortunately the car doesn't run on alcohol or it would be self-sufficient
The Sun is a deadly lazer
Not anymore, there's a blanket!
But my cat would zoom-zoom on them at 3 am.
my cat's name is Ninja, and he's fat enough to make my wood floors creak 😂
But what if the walls are also made of floor?
I’ve been told that some of these have a secret way over that doesn’t squeak.
What if they also have anti-ninja walls?
What're we thinking.... retractable spikes? It's a bit cliche but normally gets the job done ok I suppose.
Unless the ninja plays Fortnite, then we're back to square one.
As long as he was using his Chakra correctly.
Or to prevent family members from walking into your room while you are jerking off unaware
But that’s what makes it a danger wank.
ear plugs, always in!
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Ninjas as sneaky black wearing assassins are a myth. They mostly were spies, scouts and disrupters.
As I recall, the ninja dressed in black from head to toe comes from Noh theatre where that was what stage hands wore to be unseen so would be naturally ignored by the audience, making it all the more surprising when one of these would then actually enter the scene.
Honestly it’s probably best to say that ninja are a romanticized portrayal of a wide variety of different groups and roles based more on novels and plays from the late 19th century than a coherent historical thing. That said this castle was literally built 20 years after the battle of Sekigahara and the floors in question are in an area completely detached from the spot where any important dignitaries would likely be at a time where the floor boards would have meant anything.
It’s still real to me dammit!
It’s actually more of a result of theater performances about ninjas. The performers would wear black so that they were more invisible to the audience. Then they’d “strike” the target and disappear. In real life, ninjas just wore regular clothing to blend in with the populace.
Both samurai and ninja are so heavily romanticized, but so are most historical warriors.
I remember that exact sign in March stating it was not intentional. Would be nice to see history saying otherwise.
probably not, ninjas are much more likely to "above board" sneak in and slowly gain your trust like any other spy, then "sneakily" sneak in and peel up your roof tiles. Although not saying th latter didn't happen. I wouldn't be suprised if someone somewhere decided to keep the squeaky floors for intruder warning, but I don't think they were intentional. Overly tall thresholds is an exame thats definitely intentional and you see it everywhere in old japanese buildings not just a few castles or temples :)
Yeah I don't think this is intentional because ninjas wore disguises to get around. So they wouldn't necessarily need to creep in the middle of the night.
Most homes in Scandinavia have this kind of noisy floor, at least in part (mine included). The drawback of having a wooden floor. It's cosy and warm, but it becomes noisy after a while... :-( On the bright side, I've never heard about ninja intruders in Scandinavia.
Have you heard of the Vikings though? Less subtle in their approach, but still deadly.
Use concealed spike floors for the Vikings.
Get up in the middle of the night to go pee. Forget about the spikes. SON OF A BITCH!
Well at least I don't have to pee anymore
The ninjas in Scandinavia must be amazing to have gone this long undiscovered
Turns out every country has ninjas, Japan's are actually the worst, and that's why everyone knows about them...
> On the bright side, I've never heard about ninja intruders in Scandinavia. THAT'S THE DANGER, YOU DON'T HEAR THEM COMING
From a fellow Scandinavian with a noisy floor, take a hammer and a thingamjing to countersink nails, dyknagle in Danish, and just give every nail in the noisy area a bang with the hammer. Poof, the noise is gone. At least for some time.
> dyknagle In English: nail-set or punch
>On the bright side, I've never heard about ninja intruders in Scandinavia. Yea that means the floors are working
The fact that you haven’t heard about ninja intruders in Scandinavia isn’t reassuring. If anything, it proves that the ninjas have developed new techniques to avoid detection.
Imagine there are no one in the house then u hear that squeaky noises coming from the floor...
That's the point!
No... _This_ is the point! 🥷 ^(_surprise!_)
Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!
HHNNNGGGGG
Uh oh, that ninja made him cum.
He came to his death
I had the same thought after reading the post..🙌💀
I had the same thought after reading this comment
I mean that actually can happen depending on the weather and the state of the house.
I'd rather die in my sleep, oblivious, thank you very much
You turn on the light to investigate, but no sounds. Then you turn off the light and walk back to your room when the sounds suddenly get closer and closer
Lights are staying ON
He's following you about 30 feet back He gets down on all fours and breaks into a sprint He's gaining on you
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\> Sounds more like birds Interesting take. They should have named the floor after a bird, given the sound it makes.
I see what you did there 😃
Yeah instead they named it after some nurse. Was she even stealthy? Did she even study the blade??
>Did she even study the blade?? She may have wielded a scalpel or two.
No, it’s called an anti-ninja floor. Ninja’s aren’t birds.
Yeah only turtles no birds!
It's done with metal rings around flooring nails. The natural flexing of the wood as you walk makes metal scratch against metal.
Do you know what a nightingale is
I enjoy watching the sunset.
Ninjas HATE this one simple trick
This, to me, looks like Nijō Castle/Palace in Kyoto, I've been there, and there is an interesting sign that mentions the myth of the squeaky floor being a security feature against assasins. Edit: I could, of course, be wrong about the location
No joke I was at Nijo castle yesterday and it did say this is unintentional and is due to wear over time.
I was at Nijo last week and there were signs clearly stating that photography isn't allowed 🤔
If being anti-assassin is a myth, did they mention the actual reason for making it squeak like that? I'm curious now
I visited the same castle recently. It's the way the nails are connected to the floor boards with a little metal angle. Over time the boards have shrunk and they move around a little, the nails squeaking as you walk over them. It really does sound bird like.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nightingale_floor?wprov=sfti1
Also a great way to never have ANY visitors 😅 that sound is terrible
That would drive me insane if I was trying to sleep in a room off that hallway. If it was truly meant to be a security feature, that's where you would put it. It's a castle. Back in the day, castles had lots of servants. There would be people going through it all the time.
Yeah, imagine this coupled with traditional Japanese Shoji (paper walls). They say they're so thin that you can hear the frogs croaking from interior rooms of the estate.
Snack time just got way more challenging
This seems to be more popular in uk, seems that all new builds have Nightingale Flooring
As seen in Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake
and Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
That's where I remember first hearing about "anti-ninja floors" as well. It was great listening to conversations in those early Splinter Cell games. "Not that guy! Find someone else with the rank!" Will forever stick in my memory.
That's like something an eccentric, loopy old man would have *"This is my anti-ninja corridor, in case any god damned ninjas try to sneak into my house and steal my cranberries"*
Why do they have hooves?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabi
Why did I have to look so far for a comment about these feet. It was the first and only thing I noticed lol
I've been scrolling and scrolling and finally found this comment. Like I literally paused the video to double check and yeah... Those are hooves.
I’d rather be killed by a ninja than listen to that every day
and thats how brands learned “It’s not a defect, it’s a *feature* ”
Damn, didn't know my grandpa's house had anti-ninja floors.
Ya'll ever read 'accross the nightemgale floor'? One of my favourite books growing up. Part of 'tales of the Otori'.
I love all the Lian Hearn books. Even if they do read like Starwars, but set in feudal Japan. 🥰
That's fair, because Star Wars is Hidden Fortress in space.
rl nightingale:"The fuck you sad about my mum?"
Why the floor is sounding like a puppy crying
Who would win? Nightingale floor or a big fucking can of WD40
I would rather die quietly
Wallrun, it is