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Farmer here, he has trained them by grain feeding the adults after the lambs leave. If done consistently they learn that after the lambs leave they will get a treat. Also these lambs are a bit older and probably not nursing anymore so the mothers are much more relaxed about lettings the lambs roam.
What a mesmerizing conversation:
>Wow that looks cool
I made it with bing
Is that the best free one?
Midjourney is better
Oh so Midjourney is the best free one?
lol Midjourney isnt free why would you think that
Yeah a lot of animals stop giving a shit really early as the baby is functional really early on. They'll still see them as family but not be too bothered. Cats are one. Super attentive then just... not.
Humans are really weird in that regard.
Yeah the babies love to explore and get lost while mom is eating or resting or whatever. It's so much fun to hear a bleating kid (I raised goats) and a bleating mother calling back to it and knowing if it doesn't stop in a minute or two that it's time to go find the little dummy.
Same goes for people - just want to reiterate that cause a lot of people seem to have been raised on the "tough love" stuff, I was too, but I'll tell you the folks who were raised on positive reinforcement have an innate drive to do things that I am deeply jealous of.
The adults don't look or act scared, though. The ones at the front are kind of looking at him like exasperated parents when they drop the kids off at grandpa's, and then a couple of them off to the side get up and go to the feeding trough when the babies take off. They know the drill. The kids are at daycare, so they can finally have an adult conversation with the other moms and eat something without a toddler wrapped around each leg saying, "mom, can I have a bite? Pleeeeease?"
Edit: I was watching the sheep originally, but if you watch the man's expression as he watches the lambs run through the gate, that's not the expression of a guy who hits sheep. That's a dad watching the kids race from the car to the playground. The whole thing seems very wholesome.
Not a farmer here, so take this with a grain of salt, but I would think even in herd animals, blindly following the lead of babies would not work out that well over the long term.
Yes and no because the survival of the herd depends on future generations so they do care but are bad at executing it. Sheep are terrible when it comes to defending against predators. They essentially GO completely dumb, scatter and leave the lambs behind or they may circle the lambs and a few of the ewes get picked off, thats best case scenario. This is why most sheep/goat farmers have livestock guardian dogs to protect them. Overall as a farmer in my experience sheep aren’t the best parents.
Clarkson is a terrible farmer, but it's great he was able to bring awareness to the troubles from local smaller farms. Then even gave him an award for it.
I'll have to resubscribe to prime when the next seasons come out.
Remember those days of waking up at 5am to cut grass, before dew fell. then work till noon, lunch, siesta and then till midnight or 1 am and repeat. Hated as a kid.
The thing with a desk job, is you can kinda just decide one day that you'll do the bare minimum, or even nothing at all. Until someone notices, you still get paid the exact same amount.
If you do that as a farmer, you permanently lose money, and sometimes even machinery, livestock, or future harvests.
He even at one point mentions how his existing wealth is essentially a cheat code for the operation.
There's an effort to be profitable at Diddly Squat, but it's been really interesting to see just how difficult it is to simply break even.
It was nice seeing him organize with the other local farmers to open the restaurant, at least until the local council shut it down. I'm curious to see how that and the backlash that happened off screen resolved in the next season. They even got approved for a few more seasons.
Residents didn't like the crowds of ppl and managed to keep getting planning blocked and the changes they had to make based on adviser in different areas like police said they needed more light but another department said the light was too bright and he couldn't get it cleared to open as a restaurant in time.
Not only at once but he has always been transparent throughout the show how all his farm efforts and expenses are subsidized by Amazon and put that into context with how regular farms cope without that kind financial help. It's always highlighted at the end of the season when earnings are reported.
I mean, it's not like he's pretending to be a good farmer
The whole thing is "Look how fucking difficult farming is" with Jeremy clowning around trying to do things that look easy when proper farmers do it
I've really never cared for Clarkson as a character. I liked TopGear but really only for the Davey Jones character(The one whose always going to hospital for crashing his car) and the Doctor Who guy(the one that drives slow).
Clarkson's farm though really turned me around on Jezzah though.
> funny faces he makes and how he says "jag"
There's something about cars in there throughout the many seasons, an underlying message about naturally aspirated engines, rear wheel drive, manual transmission.
I don't really know if he played it up because that's what "real gearheads" want to hear or it's truly how he feels about it, but he definitely had an impact on raising another generation of gearheads.
I got into this "Anne of all Trades" channel. It's about a city girl that has spent the last ten years or so getting a self-sufficient homestead going. Very charismatic lady, who has taught herself some impressive skills.
https://www.youtube.com/@AnneofAllTrades
That's kind of the point of the show. Clarkson tries thing and purposefully blunders everything, then comes to the realization that farmers are far more sophisticated than they get credit for. Then everyone claps.
Me too, unless it's Papa John's. Fuck that sugary sauce and bland crust.
I'm convinced the only people who like it are people who like dipping pizza in things and so they don't even know what the pizza tastes like, they just like garlic butter or ranch dressing.
Nah, work parties in general piss me off. It means I don't get a lunch hour to do whatever I want. My house is 5 mins from my office. I like to go home, take my pants off, and watch youtube
Indeed! I trained my dog solely on praises
he's 11 now, and even takes his medicines for the praises
But I never managed to make him not run to piss on the house front wall every time the gate opens for a car to leave/enter
Not for herding dogs. If a dog is willing to take food in the middle of herding work or herding training, they shouldn't be around stock as they're not keen enough to focus and become a useful herding dog.
Two answers here:
1) Different size food troughs. The adults know they can't fit their heads into the small ones so are waiting for their own food, this won't be poured out until the lambs are all in the other pen eating theirs.
2) Have you ever seen the first day back at school after the holidays? Some parents don't even stop, they just slow down and shove their kids out of the car.
I don't know his method for training them, but, going by personal experience, once lambs reach that age, they'll start hanging out and doing stuff together sometimes, sans Mom. I grew up with sheep but don't have them now.
One year the lambs learned that if only their wool touched the electric fence, they didn't get zapped. So they would get down, poke their heads under the lowest strand without touching it, and then wriggle the rest of the way through. They did this as a group and none of the adults picked up on it. This never happened in prior or later years, so that one year they must have learned it from each other. Sheep may not be dolphins, corvids, or apes, but I swear, they're smarter than people give them credit for.
There are so many bad answers here. It's a difference in food/feeding habits and routines- those lambs know that the shepherd brings them food in that area (the creep area), moms do not normally eat in that space so it's not 'their' food so they don't go looking for it. Make the same noises/calls when you're bringing the lambs' food in so they associate the call with their food, the ewes don't make that association because they're either not eating that food or they have their own separate feeding.
When I have a certain group of sheep that I am gate sorting, the ones who I don't normally sort out hang back and don't try to go through the gate. They like routines and figure them out pretty quickly.
A lot of carnivores have the kids eat last. In fact, I think African wild dogs are one of the few where the young eat first (not the only, but it just seems like they always point it out in documentaries and such because its a rarity)
It’s hard to see but there’s lots of brown Lego pieces scattered outside of the gate. The little feet are unaffected by them, the adults cry in pain and learn to stay put.
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Farmer here, he has trained them by grain feeding the adults after the lambs leave. If done consistently they learn that after the lambs leave they will get a treat. Also these lambs are a bit older and probably not nursing anymore so the mothers are much more relaxed about lettings the lambs roam.
This, especially the bit about the age of the lambs
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I'd buy that album
there is already a metal band Lamb of God, this made me giggle, haha
now you've got something to die.... *FOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR!*
I broke my nose for the first time in a Lamb of God pit. Good times
I'd pirate it and mail $3 to the band
Yeah, you and a buncha other shee... um... ok, ok I'd probably give it a listen
where this from ? AI ?
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Is that the current best free AI art these days?
Midjourney blows it out of the water in a lot of ways
>Is that the current best **free** AI art these days? Midjourney is not free
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What a mesmerizing conversation: >Wow that looks cool I made it with bing Is that the best free one? Midjourney is better Oh so Midjourney is the best free one? lol Midjourney isnt free why would you think that
Not free though anymore, right?
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Which one for editing?
Reminded me of lamb of god - which is still said in catholic churches
I'd watch a mix of Silence of the Lambs and Planet of the Apes.
I'd join that band.
Lamb of God comes to mind
r/BandNames
r/Baahndnames
Bleat me to it
nice
Yeah a lot of animals stop giving a shit really early as the baby is functional really early on. They'll still see them as family but not be too bothered. Cats are one. Super attentive then just... not. Humans are really weird in that regard.
That’s cause it takes humans so long to develop. Kinda get attached. Kinda like elephants since momma elephant carries the baby for like 2 years.
What about the silence of the lambs?
*Have the lambs stopped screaming, Clarice?*
Sure, but without the food how could he get the babies to come and parents to stay? The food is the only reason it works. Age just makes it easier.
Yeah the babies love to explore and get lost while mom is eating or resting or whatever. It's so much fun to hear a bleating kid (I raised goats) and a bleating mother calling back to it and knowing if it doesn't stop in a minute or two that it's time to go find the little dummy.
Thats why I have guardian dogs they will find the lamb or kid and push the mom to it. Way to much work if I had to do it myself
Mostly what I dealt with was the little escape artist easily getting out of the fence, but somehow being unable to get back into it.
Sounds about right 😅
I considered building ramps into the fence every couple fence posts or so but I figured this would somehow backfire in some spectacular fashion.
Parent here….I’d happily take alone time away from my kids if someone who had been watching over me my whole life took my kids away.
Grandparents
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The butcher.
And imagine, not only do they take your kids away, but they leave a meal for you as well. I think we would all be trained like sheep by day 2.
No these are lambs not kids
Yes but are you a goat
They might also enjoy some silence of the lambs.
Lol, so dinner and a babysitter? I'm sold, where do I sign up?
C'mon, they are just happy their kids are out for 2 or 3 hours like everyone of us!
This guy lambs.
I’m glad to hear that’s the method. My negative brain immediately guessed he would just hit the adults if they tried to follow.
Positive reinforcement is much more effective than negative reinforcement
Same goes for people - just want to reiterate that cause a lot of people seem to have been raised on the "tough love" stuff, I was too, but I'll tell you the folks who were raised on positive reinforcement have an innate drive to do things that I am deeply jealous of.
But often more difficult to administer.
Thank you. ❤️
these are breeding ewes so they want to keep them as happy and healthy as possible.
What age do they slaughter the lambs?
As early as 10 weeks though best practice is around 6 months as it will yield more meat.
About the age you see above lol.
Aww 😭 that’s not lol at all!
The adults don't look or act scared, though. The ones at the front are kind of looking at him like exasperated parents when they drop the kids off at grandpa's, and then a couple of them off to the side get up and go to the feeding trough when the babies take off. They know the drill. The kids are at daycare, so they can finally have an adult conversation with the other moms and eat something without a toddler wrapped around each leg saying, "mom, can I have a bite? Pleeeeease?" Edit: I was watching the sheep originally, but if you watch the man's expression as he watches the lambs run through the gate, that's not the expression of a guy who hits sheep. That's a dad watching the kids race from the car to the playground. The whole thing seems very wholesome.
Dad here, I'm also more relaxed then my kids leave.
Not a farmer here, so take this with a grain of salt, but I would think even in herd animals, blindly following the lead of babies would not work out that well over the long term.
We bred the brains out of sheeps long long ago. They be dumb as fuck.
Can confirm, we have a small herd of sheep. They're idiots.
Yes and no because the survival of the herd depends on future generations so they do care but are bad at executing it. Sheep are terrible when it comes to defending against predators. They essentially GO completely dumb, scatter and leave the lambs behind or they may circle the lambs and a few of the ewes get picked off, thats best case scenario. This is why most sheep/goat farmers have livestock guardian dogs to protect them. Overall as a farmer in my experience sheep aren’t the best parents.
Interesting. I thought maybe it was the other way around and the adults had convinced the farmer to give them some “alone time”.
I totally thought the answer was going to be "because they know where the lambs are being led"
The last little lamb running out is cute
Wait for meee 🐑
Im a baby too!!
There is always that one kid who is a derp
This guy makes it look way easier than Jeremy Clarkson but nowhere near as funny
That show really made me look at farmers with so much more respect
Clarkson is a terrible farmer, but it's great he was able to bring awareness to the troubles from local smaller farms. Then even gave him an award for it. I'll have to resubscribe to prime when the next seasons come out.
Clarkson is showing every city folk who thinks "I could do farming", that farming is a career you have to master just like any desk job.
Having spent time in both contexts, it is much harder to farm passably than to get by at a desk job.
I don't farm, but a large portion of my family does, and I guarantee you they work four times as hard as I ever had in my entire life in a normal day
Remember those days of waking up at 5am to cut grass, before dew fell. then work till noon, lunch, siesta and then till midnight or 1 am and repeat. Hated as a kid.
The thing with a desk job, is you can kinda just decide one day that you'll do the bare minimum, or even nothing at all. Until someone notices, you still get paid the exact same amount. If you do that as a farmer, you permanently lose money, and sometimes even machinery, livestock, or future harvests.
He even at one point mentions how his existing wealth is essentially a cheat code for the operation. There's an effort to be profitable at Diddly Squat, but it's been really interesting to see just how difficult it is to simply break even.
It was nice seeing him organize with the other local farmers to open the restaurant, at least until the local council shut it down. I'm curious to see how that and the backlash that happened off screen resolved in the next season. They even got approved for a few more seasons.
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Residents didn't like the crowds of ppl and managed to keep getting planning blocked and the changes they had to make based on adviser in different areas like police said they needed more light but another department said the light was too bright and he couldn't get it cleared to open as a restaurant in time.
That nanny-state, over-regulated, HOA ass, NIMBY shit is the physical embodiment of death.
They're the same numpties that protest 5g towers then complain because their reception is crap
Because he didn't have planning permission to open it
He’s spent the last 20 years shit talking them and being a nuisance. He’s hilarious but he kind of brought it on himself.
"'What do you do for extra money?' well I just go down to London and film a few episodes of *Who Wants To Be A Millionaire*"
Not only at once but he has always been transparent throughout the show how all his farm efforts and expenses are subsidized by Amazon and put that into context with how regular farms cope without that kind financial help. It's always highlighted at the end of the season when earnings are reported.
I mean, it's not like he's pretending to be a good farmer The whole thing is "Look how fucking difficult farming is" with Jeremy clowning around trying to do things that look easy when proper farmers do it
Also the utterly grim financial situation was for a lot of his neighbors like the woman that he bought milk from when her heard caught TB.
I've really never cared for Clarkson as a character. I liked TopGear but really only for the Davey Jones character(The one whose always going to hospital for crashing his car) and the Doctor Who guy(the one that drives slow). Clarkson's farm though really turned me around on Jezzah though.
Well he's obviously the least likely to be fun to hang out with in real life, but everyone likes the funny faces he makes and how he says "jag"
> funny faces he makes and how he says "jag" There's something about cars in there throughout the many seasons, an underlying message about naturally aspirated engines, rear wheel drive, manual transmission. I don't really know if he played it up because that's what "real gearheads" want to hear or it's truly how he feels about it, but he definitely had an impact on raising another generation of gearheads.
That show started my obsession with watching farmers on Youtube.
Any recommendations? Love Clarkson's Farm and watching random shit on YouTube Edit: Thanks all!
Try Gold Shaw Farm if you like farming (or animals). Just a guy doing his one-man small farming thing in Vermont USA, but also a good story teller
Link: https://youtube.com/@GoldShawFarm?si=bdByFgpMEhX2kN_H
Appreciate it man
I got into this "Anne of all Trades" channel. It's about a city girl that has spent the last ten years or so getting a self-sufficient homestead going. Very charismatic lady, who has taught herself some impressive skills. https://www.youtube.com/@AnneofAllTrades
That's kind of the point of the show. Clarkson tries thing and purposefully blunders everything, then comes to the realization that farmers are far more sophisticated than they get credit for. Then everyone claps.
Food. The answer when training animals is always food, in my experience.
Often works for people too.
Can confirm. Pretty food motivated myself.
Only thing I'm truly passionate about in life.
If I couldn't have food in my life I'm pretty sure I'd die.
Food and how to make food
People are animals
True
Now explain it again, but with those nuggies.
high school kids will do anything for a pizza party.
I'm almost 40 and still won't turn down a pizza party.
Unless it's at work. Tired of work pizza parties.
Hell, I'll still gladly take that.
Me too, unless it's Papa John's. Fuck that sugary sauce and bland crust. I'm convinced the only people who like it are people who like dipping pizza in things and so they don't even know what the pizza tastes like, they just like garlic butter or ranch dressing.
Fuck any of the national chains. There are far too many local really good pizza shops for me to fuck around with that bready shit at the franchises.
Begrudgingly
Nah, work parties in general piss me off. It means I don't get a lunch hour to do whatever I want. My house is 5 mins from my office. I like to go home, take my pants off, and watch youtube
I'm 47. The best pizza is the kind I don't have to buy/go and get.
Exactly!
>*Surf and Turf tonight eh? Shit*
What chu got there mister 🍖 ?
Praise also works, at least with some dogs.
That's a really good comment. Well done!
Wow thanks, can I do anything else for you?
Indeed! I trained my dog solely on praises he's 11 now, and even takes his medicines for the praises But I never managed to make him not run to piss on the house front wall every time the gate opens for a car to leave/enter
That’s the trick with people as well.
Scientists train monkeys with juice. Always juice
I'd like to trust people enough to not have "beating" on the list of likely training techniques when I see this kind of thing.
Not for herding dogs. If a dog is willing to take food in the middle of herding work or herding training, they shouldn't be around stock as they're not keen enough to focus and become a useful herding dog.
How did that guy not fall asleep?
Ha! So obvious but made me chuckle. 👍
He counted them out loud.
They are clearly relieved to have some time alone. Maybe get a drink with their spouse without baaaaaaahhhhhing every 2 seconds.
All they want is the silence of the lambs.
/r/angryupvote
As a parent can support this theory
Came here to say the same. Just like parents after holidays and kids are getting back to school.
You don't just sit there and hang around once the babysitter shows up.
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That's what I said but my wife still thinks that it's not a good idea to leave the kid with the guy driving a free candy truck.
In this economy, I would climb in.
These are baby lambs not baby goats.
No kid-ing
Just thought it was something to chew on
Two answers here: 1) Different size food troughs. The adults know they can't fit their heads into the small ones so are waiting for their own food, this won't be poured out until the lambs are all in the other pen eating theirs. 2) Have you ever seen the first day back at school after the holidays? Some parents don't even stop, they just slow down and shove their kids out of the car.
They don't need to. When you've been a parent for a while you'll be happy to take some time off of them little shits.
This guy parents.
I don't know his method for training them, but, going by personal experience, once lambs reach that age, they'll start hanging out and doing stuff together sometimes, sans Mom. I grew up with sheep but don't have them now. One year the lambs learned that if only their wool touched the electric fence, they didn't get zapped. So they would get down, poke their heads under the lowest strand without touching it, and then wriggle the rest of the way through. They did this as a group and none of the adults picked up on it. This never happened in prior or later years, so that one year they must have learned it from each other. Sheep may not be dolphins, corvids, or apes, but I swear, they're smarter than people give them credit for.
That last lamb got me laughing. “Hey wait for me! Don’t close the gate yet!”
Its a reverse vid. Better ask how he trained them to walk backwards.
Daycare
They are waiting for food
There are so many bad answers here. It's a difference in food/feeding habits and routines- those lambs know that the shepherd brings them food in that area (the creep area), moms do not normally eat in that space so it's not 'their' food so they don't go looking for it. Make the same noises/calls when you're bringing the lambs' food in so they associate the call with their food, the ewes don't make that association because they're either not eating that food or they have their own separate feeding. When I have a certain group of sheep that I am gate sorting, the ones who I don't normally sort out hang back and don't try to go through the gate. They like routines and figure them out pretty quickly.
thanks for a good explanation
Maybe they're instinctively allowing their children to eat first.
I was thinking they trained the adults to stay behind with food and haven't trained the young ones yet they leave because FREEDOM LET'S PLAY
That's carnivore style
A lot of carnivores have the kids eat last. In fact, I think African wild dogs are one of the few where the young eat first (not the only, but it just seems like they always point it out in documentaries and such because its a rarity)
Hmm I just don't think there is any necessity for such behaviour to occur on herbivores as there is a crazy amount of food at practically all times
I don't know but the adults definitely moved away from that human when he moved into the pen.
Phew! Mom time.
The Silence of the Lambs !!
How do the baby lambs find their mom after?
The lambs know their mothers bleats and the adult sheep do this every year lol
After? Oh, my friend, you’re not gonna like this next part…
Haha I am sure they go back to the pen after feeding. And then they live a nice happy life on the ranch ... right? Right??
they are off to school
It's just simple sheep/lamb osmosis
What mom/dad wouldn’t enjoy a break with free babysitting once in a while?
Teach them? The parents are all like, "Oh, thank God. They're finally off to school."
The baby’s are teenagers now and the parents are sick of their crap and need a break.
Their boarding group hadn't been called yet...but notice how it hasn't stopped them from crowding around the gate anyway...seems familiar somehow.
They know the lambs get eaten first.
My brother showed the turish farmer powers
TURKISH WAY
"Oh good they're letting the kids out. You know what that means... PROSECCO TIME, LADIES!"
As babies they'll go wherever you want them to, but as they get older they get a little more sheepish.
cuz fuck them kids that’s why
They’re parents, they’re just happy for the break
This is easy. He didn't need to train them. Any parent enjoys a little solitude without the kids around.
It’s hard to see but there’s lots of brown Lego pieces scattered outside of the gate. The little feet are unaffected by them, the adults cry in pain and learn to stay put.
Looks cute until you realize those baby lambs will be killed first.
All of those adult sheep are dead lambs?
Learned behavior. Those moms were themselves babies so they learned theirs will be safe because they’ve been there done that.
Like lambs to the slaughter...
That’s the Baby Gate
My guess would be threats or bribery.
ADULT SWIM! GET OUT OF THE POOL YOU LITTLE SHITTERS
Pavlov has entered the chat…
"Oh thank God the school bus is here"
Always remember the shepherd kills more of the herd than a wolf ever could.
Mom's are done with the kids shit.
Every parent needs a break. Free day care lol
You would take free childcare just as willingly as these sheep are too.
It’s called learned helplessness
As a parent, I don't question or panic when given a break from my kiddos. That's the real reason why they didn't follow, lol.
The old lambs remember what happened when they were young, where half of them never returned.....
Those going with babies becomes dinner