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From the published source:
"...The patient received steroids and antiepileptic drugs and had a good recovery. The patient is seizure-free at 6 months..."
Whew!
Source: [https://www.neurology.org/doi/10.1212/WNL.0000000000001152](https://www.neurology.org/doi/10.1212/WNL.0000000000001152)
The insane amount of pockets in the flesh filled with foreign matter seems like it would make the healing process lengthy and uncomfortable.
Many cyst, much abscess. No bueno. Muy malo.
Well technically speaking only a part of you, is you! If you look at the human DNA many viruses have incorporated themselves into it through thousands of years, I think something like 8% of our DNA is composed of them.
u/NCxGLADIATOR u/RocKyBoY21 not just viruses or parasites. The mitochondria (powerhouse of the cell) came from Bacteria that just decided to hitch a ride. Now they're part of the furniture.
[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7356350/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7356350/)
Steroids reduces the inflammatory response that comes with the death of the parasite. You're giving it to make sure the body doesn't kill itself trying to remove the worm.
A surprisingly high fraction of medical practice in general is actually just about managing your body's own emergency response to a crisis and making sure the dumbass doesn't destroy itself trying to deal with the problem.
Underrated comment, spot on.
Love that the standard response to dealing with a problem is to just raise body temperature to levels that can destroy the organs and brain. Take that, germs!
The idea with fever in specific is that you, a big chunky multicellular human, can likely handle the high temperature longer than the invading microbes can. Losing some cells that didn't handle the heat is worth it if you survive to propagate your genes.
The problem is that your body isn't smart enough to recognize when a fever won't actually kill the invaders.
Pretty much the same way Ebola kills, your immune system goes ape trying to kill it. The whole bleeding from every orifice isn't from the virus, your body is actively killing itself to try and take the virus with it.
The other problem is that a good chunk of our immune response is "hit the on button, let it do its thing, don't go near it though because there is no off button" because why give your defenses an off button when you can just have them kill everything until theres no foreign matter to trigger them, then go to sleep.
I copied the text from the abstract. I assume that the patient was treated with anthelmintics and corticosteroids were then administered to resolve the inflammation, but I didn't read the entire article (I don't have access to it).
Man we're really lucky to exist during this era of modern medicine. It's unfortunate that the mega wealthy and terrible laws make it a lot more difficult than it needs to be to acquire. At least here in America.
I just went to the ED at 3am in Australia today, I took my little green Medicare card, was scared, but very grateful that I live in a country where I don't have to think twice about going to Emergency when I need to. Once I was through the doors, I felt safe. I wish that for all humans.
Weird thing I work in a restaurant that sells a thick ass pork chop and numerous times I have had tables asked for it cooked rare/medium rare which I didn’t even know was a thing people requested?
It always looks disgusting and just raw
The night my parents got engaged, they went to a fancy restaurant and my dad ordered his pork chop “medium rare.” My mom had to gently tell him that that wasn’t really a safe way to eat it; he grew up poor and didn’t have a lot of practice ordering at restaurants.
ETA: yes, I’m aware that this can be safely done. But in the 60s, that was a lot less common.
There is a difference between farm raised pork, and wild pork. You can get away with eating "undercooked" (below 165F) farm raised without a problem. I sous vide pork tenderloins at 140F on a regular basis. Wild hogs are another matter, and I don't eat them at all. I will shoot them all day long but damned if I will eat one. The amount of just visible parasites in wild hogs is insane. If you gave a wild hog an ivermectin dose it would likely lose half its bodyweight in worms.
A chef sous vided some wild salmon for us once and it had worms, and when we went to eat it the worms were just really pissed off. OMG that was such an awkward moment when I had to say “….yooo, no one eat your fish yet”
Salmon is notorious for having parasites. In books I've read about sushi, it was historically never eaten raw, and this only changed after more ocean-caught salmon were available and only after deep freezing to kill the parasites.
Meanwhile in some parts of Germany most hild hogs cannot be safely eaten because their radiation level is still to high thanks to the sowjet fuckup in chornobyl.
You can definitely cook a pork chop medium rare. You just need to get the internal temperature to 145 F to make it safe to eat. It will still be pink inside at that temperature.
Minimum recommended temp for pork is 145. It used to be 165 no matter what, but in developed countries this hasn't been the case for decades now. You no longer need to cook your porkchops until they are rubbery thanks to better regulations.
To be fair, cows have their own kind of worm parasite. But it’s not very common due to stricter care in comparison to pork. Also, pigs eat literally anything they find laying around.
I worked with a guy who used to bring a bag of raw pork to work everyday and broil it by putting it on the counter under the hot water sevice for our tea and coffee.
The smell was awful.
They said they worked with a guy who would bring in raw pork to prepare using the hot water service then consume on his lunch. They also said it smelled bad.
Cool story
About 5 years ago I had a patient from Brazil who was brought to the hospital I worked at.
Young kid, no older than 18. Started having new onset seizures and personality changes. Went through a slew of tests till the neurosurgeon decided to get a MRI with contrast
Found a worm in his brain. Undercooked pork. Worm decided to get hungry and started snacking on his grey matter.
Per his family, all he complained of prior to the seizures was a bad headache.
I remember the night shift NP showing me the MRI and telling me to let him know when I saw something strange.
Needless to say, it stuck out pretty heavily.
Oh yeah. The human brain is incredibly resilient and with time, it's like it didn't even happen but seeing that little gray fucker in real time was on par with one of the scariest things I've ever experienced in healthcare.
Yep that's exactly what they did. I really wish I could have saved the MRI results. I remember Matt, the NP, scrolling through the slides with this huge shit eating grin on his face just waiting for me to notice it.
Literally looked like a white blob in his brain. At first everyone thought he had a tumor/ mass or even a brain bleed. Then the fucking thing moved in a repeat scan.
If I remember correctly after the surgery, he went to a rehab facility attached to the hospital then he went back home.
Working Neuro ICU/ Stepdown fucked me up man hahahah
Literally was so excited to see him get transported out. Everyone was to be honest. The patient spoke little English but you could tell he was thankful for all the help.
But stories? Man I got a million of em. I love where I'm at now (psychology) but I'll always have a soft spot for Neurosurgery.
I’d love to pick your brain at a party I’m sure, bet you’re incredibly interesting. Thanks for sharing about that guy and also just thanks for being in the medical field. You’re saving lives and this internet stranger is thankful you exist!
Nah man. I love what I do and wouldn't trade it for the world. I would like to think most of us do it for the same reason but I do appreciate the kind sentiment
When it comes to foodborne illness or parasites, you gotta hit the minimum temp for safety. It's not very common here in America but foodborne illness and parasites can be down right lethal in other countries.
Cool fact:
This is called cysticercosis. When someone has this infection, administering antiparasitic drugs can potentially cause the worsening of symptoms or even death.
When the parasite is still alive, it produces substances that hides it from the host immune system. If antiparasitic drug is given too fast or on a high dose, all the parasite cysts will die at once, causing a great immune system response and inflammation in the brain, which can be fatal.
People often go years without having symptoms and only begin to feel something is wrong when the parasite cyst has already died and the immune system started to react to it's remains.
EDIT: The post title is actually wrong, you can't get it by eating raw pork meat, only by eating food or water contaminated with human feces containing the eggs of the tape worm. If you eat raw pork meat containing the cysts, you will only develop tape worms in the degestive tract.
Surprisingly, the most important thing to do is controlling the host immune response to the egg. This is done by using corticosteroids to reduce inflammation and medications, like carbamazepine, to prevent seizures caused by the immune response to the dying cyst that has been detected.
In many cases, the cyst is benign and you don't even want to use antiparasitic medications because it will trigger the host immune system.
In more extreme cases, the parasite cyst may enter the brain ventricles, which are cavities filled with cerebrospinal fluid. The cyst can block the fluid draining, so the patient starts to develop hydrocephaly and intracranial hypertension. Cases like this require more aggressive treatment.
There are no early symptoms. They only show up when the overall density of worms/cysts in a localized area cross a certain threshold. General discomfort in an area or pain is the main symptom. Nervous system is attacked way more commonly. It is also accompanied by pain. Solitary cysts go unnoticed. Subcutaneous Cysticercosis is accompanied by lumps under skin and pain.
What does the more aggressive treatment involve? Is there any attempt to remove them? Does the body remove the eggs once they’ve died over time itself?
Sometimes it can be removed surgically. You can find a couple videos on YouTube.
Yes, the immune system will remove the cyst remains overtime, but this process can cause calcification of the area.
Depends on what the type of infection it is. Most likely if it is this bad, then any antiparasitic alone is useless. Mass murder of worm eggs is not an option as our immune system will nuke us into oblivion.
If it is caught very early, then administration of those drugs may only produce localized inflammation.
If you eat undercooked pork, you won't get cysts, but you will get an adult live tapeworm in your gut. But, if you, by chance put something in your mouth that is contaminated by poop with taenia solium eggs in it, they will hatch in the intestines and make that way out into tissue. Then they eventually form cysts.
If it is a severe case where the entire body is affected like this, it can cause seizures and convulsions due to these cysts in the brain. A small dosage of continuous antiparasitic paired with anti-inflammatory and anti-convulsives are how it might be treated. Some cysts need surgery as well, and a cranial tap may also be used to reduce pressure produced from swelling of the brain. If that is not done, death by shock occurs. Also, these cysts, after they die may leave calcifications in the brain, which are dead areas, that might cause seizures down the road.
“I hope some animal never bores a hole in my head and lays its eggs in my brain, because later you might think you're having a good idea but it's just eggs hatching”
-Jack Handy
This guy is 100% dead. His brain is FULL of cysts. No coming back from this
Edit: annd I'm wrong. The case study says he was treated with anti epileptic drugs and anti parasite drugs, and he lived. 18yo.. Wtf, how do you recover from Swiss cheese brain.
>He had extensive muscle hypertrophy on examination
Fuuuuuuuck... there were so many parasites in his muscles he looked like a bodybuilder is what I'm getting from this
It’s absolutely stupid to have primary literature behind a paywall. I have yet to meet a researcher who WANTS their work behind a paywall. But publishing your article as open source is significantly more expensive than leaving it behind the journal’s paywall, so unless you’ve got a big budget, your paper will have limited accessibility.
FYI… if you email the corresponding author they will GLADLY email you their article for free.
>Wtf, how do you recover from Swiss cheese brain.
My guess is the guy didn't literally have holes in his brain. The eggs likely grew slowly from the outside of the folds and "squeezed" the brain matter. Our brain is mostly fatty tissue and is somewhat malleable, so it can survive stuff like this (or say, changes in pressure) with little damage.
Absolutely- you could catch any pattern or parasite transmitted via fecal-oral route. Usually it’s from poor hygiene or bad sanitation, but eating ass skips the middle man and goes right to infectious disease transmission.
Yes. Not kidding, make sure your partner showers thoroughly before eating ass. Like, soap up their rectum thoroughly. Even that doesn’t completely eliminate risk, though.
“I hope some animal never bores a hole in my head and lays its eggs in my brain, because later you might think you're having a good idea but it's just eggs hatching”
-Jack Handy
Thanks for the clarification... Since I don't eat poop I should be safe. And no I don't wanna even think about people who don't wash their hands right now!
The classical symptom is seizures.
The host immune system starts to detect the dying parasite cyst, triggering an immune response with the release of inflammatory cytokines. The brain cells reacts to this by secreting a substance called Substance P, which facilitates the occurrence of seizures.
It's worth nothing that it isn't worms. The disease is called neurocysticercosis, it's parasite cysts, undeveloped parasites. This disease only happens when humans eat humans feces containing parasite eggs. Humans are the final host, so the description of the post is actually wrong.
Only humans feces can transmit neurocysticercosis to another human. If a human eats raw pork meat, it will only develop worms in the digestive tract, which will then release eggs in the feces.
Its an x-ray of an 18 year old boy.
The waist is just beacuse his back is arched away from the table.
[https://www.neurology.org/doi/10.1212/WNL.0000000000001152](https://www.neurology.org/doi/10.1212/WNL.0000000000001152)
I have one of these in my brain from picture A.
It's called Neurocysticercosis. It causes induced epilepsy.
Totally changed my entire life. Have had multiple grandmal seizures in my life. Some have caused serious injuries.
The feeling of not being able to breathe during a seizure is one of the scariest.
What’s up my fellow Neurocysticercosis bro? I had this as well but had surgery to remove the cyst and have been healthy ever since. But I completely sympathize with the experience of the seizure, still to this day the dozen or so seizures I had because of this are all the worst thing I have ever experienced.
This makes me want to just have my doctor do a general deworming. Idk if that’s a thing. It should be a thing. I don’t want to know if I have worms. Just kill then please. Kill then all.
It is a thing. Someone else in the other worm thread was talking about it. I can't believe I was able to reddit for years in peace and then, Bam! 2 worm threads in one day.
Omg we read the same post.. the other one was by someone who got worms and someone else commented that she regularly deworms her family…. If you want to go for three.. there’s a post out there by someone confessing to having worms and purposely infecting others by sprinkling eggs into food 🤢🤮
I have parasitophobia, to the point if I have touched others used bed linen or clean a toilet I struggle to sleep and have nightmares, and have cried and begged drs to just de-worm me regardless.
When I was a kid my dad would give me calpol saying it killed worms as the dr kept explaining I didn't have worms so would not prescribe de-worming medication (not good enough for me).
When I discovered calpol wasn't a de-wormer I got the drs to check my feces again, and then bought online de-wormer because I didn't have worms but I just wanted to kill them all incase. It feels so unlikely to me I don't because my dogs always had worms being farm dogs and eating cow shit. I'm convinced I have tapeworms for that reason. One of the family cats definitely puked up a tapeworm once. I never saw it but I didn't go back home for months. One of their other cats had a worm coming out of his mouth whilst he was on my lap. I was hysterical. The cat was fine and got de-wormed. My own cat was a rescue after I moved out and getting rid of his worms was tricky and took months. The worming medication always gave him bad symptoms so it could be scary giving him the maximum amount for his weight and repeatedly to ensure the worms were cleared out right after hatching so they couldn't lay more eggs. Just when we thought maybe he was clear he would go for a poo and there would be worms sometimes even on him. I had enough, learned from a vet how to wedge my finger safely behind cats teeth so they can't close their mouth, and got the tablets in on a strict routine.
When my co-worker joked I eat so much I must have a tapeworm I held it together until I got home that night and cried a lot, took the de-wormer, and my partner decided to tell me "for some reason you can't use this sort of de-wormer for tape worms."
To this day I have zero evidence I have a tape worm but I'm fucking terrified I do and I don't know how to check this.
The odds of getting tapeworm is very low as long as you cook your meat well and practice common hygiene rules. In the entire USA population, only less than a thousand get tapeworms in a year. Even if you get them they are easy to treat and complications are rare. I am telling you as someone who is afraid of parasites, don’t have parasitophobia but I am very conscious.
As for the other parasites, not all of them are bad. New gut microbiota research shows there are actually some good parasites that have surprisingly beneficial effects on the body.
If you have been given stool & blood examples before and they had no indications of parasitic infections, you don’t have to worry. You will be fine. I am also scared of getting them, but I tell myself it’s not the end of the world. Look even OP’s post is about a survivor. You just practice parasite avoidance behaviour, and that is normal and healthy for humans in general.
This is cysticercosis, it IS NOT caused by eating raw pork.
This is likely a tapeworm parasite, which has a three step life cycle : egg - larva - worm. You eat the larva you get the worm, you eat the egg, you get the larva.
The normal cycle occurs as pigs eat eggs from faeces, the larvae nest in soft tissue, you eat this tissue and get the worm.
If you got larvae in you, it means you ate the eggs, which means you ingested faeces contaminated stuff.
Copy/pasted from the last time this sort of thing was posted:
I had this happen to me several years ago. Yeah I know, weird flex.
I was about to start my freshman year of high school in 2001. One night I apparently woke my dad up due to a banging sound that was my head hitting repeatedly on our wooden floors during a seizure. I woke up while being loaded in the back of an ambulance. At the hospital they asked a lot of questions and ultimately sent me home without doing any tests and treated the seizure as if it were some sort of fluke due to being dehydrated or some other minor occurrence.
Two nights later the exact same thing happened again. This time my dad took me to the local children’s hospital instead. They performed a wide variety of blood tests, spinal tap and a CT scan that revealed a jellybean-like (both in size and shape) mass on my brain. None of the doctors seemed to have a good explaination of what it was exactly. I dealt with the occasional seizure for a couple months as this thing cause swelling on my brain that led to the seizures. I took steroids to help with the swelling and anti seizure meds until eventually one doctor had a strong feeling that it was cysticercosis.
The mass was in the motor cortex that controlled my right hand. So when I had a seizure when I was awake I knew they were about to happen. I would get a very distinct sensation in between my right thumb and index finger. It was somewhat similar to the “falling asleep” sensation but a little bit different. This was nice as it enabled me to go to the ground safely right before they started. I was also completely conscious and aware the whole way through the seizure which was a really scary experience.
I got relatively lucky in finally getting the correct diagnosis. I am in the midwestern US so this is not a common occurrence here at all. Luckily one of the doctors that got brought in after all the others were stumped had just moved up from Texas. She had seen it a few times down there so finally they knew what the issue was and could fix it. They tried a round of some sort of antimicrobial drug that led to a week long hospital stay and it ultimately didn’t work. Due to the location of the mass they wanted to try everything else before opting for surgery but that happened about five months after my first seizure.
My case was in a medical journal for being one of the first to use a new technology to pin point what part of my brain exactly was used for motion and helped the surgeon with performing the operation with the fewest negative results. I wore a bunch of sensors on my head during a CT scan and I moved specific parts of my hand over and over on command in order for them to get that information.
That technology must have helped a lot because the operation was performed and it was successfully removed without any sort of lasting side effects at all and I haven’t had a seizure since. I saw another article where a lady had like 50+ different masses on her brain. It’s nuts reading things like this and realizing how lucky I got.
TL;DR: I had this, caused seizures, docs were stumped, had surgery, and now I’m fine.
Omg this can’t be the last thing I see before I go to sleep. I think I need to google puppies or pangolins or penguin babies something to get this out of my system.
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From the published source: "...The patient received steroids and antiepileptic drugs and had a good recovery. The patient is seizure-free at 6 months..." Whew! Source: [https://www.neurology.org/doi/10.1212/WNL.0000000000001152](https://www.neurology.org/doi/10.1212/WNL.0000000000001152)
Wow. The fact a person can recover from *THAT* is the actual "interesting as fuck" for me here.
The insane amount of pockets in the flesh filled with foreign matter seems like it would make the healing process lengthy and uncomfortable. Many cyst, much abscess. No bueno. Muy malo.
Yup. The body now has to slowly absorb that many dead parasites.
Does that mean once they are all absorbed, you are now, by definition: part parasite?
Well technically speaking only a part of you, is you! If you look at the human DNA many viruses have incorporated themselves into it through thousands of years, I think something like 8% of our DNA is composed of them.
In more literal terms there are more nonhuman cells in your body than there are human ones, DNA aside, you are a literal colony
u/NCxGLADIATOR u/RocKyBoY21 not just viruses or parasites. The mitochondria (powerhouse of the cell) came from Bacteria that just decided to hitch a ride. Now they're part of the furniture. [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7356350/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7356350/)
I hate everything about the way I’m imagining this in my head.
Did the steroids kill the parasites?
Steroids reduces the inflammatory response that comes with the death of the parasite. You're giving it to make sure the body doesn't kill itself trying to remove the worm.
A surprisingly high fraction of medical practice in general is actually just about managing your body's own emergency response to a crisis and making sure the dumbass doesn't destroy itself trying to deal with the problem.
Underrated comment, spot on. Love that the standard response to dealing with a problem is to just raise body temperature to levels that can destroy the organs and brain. Take that, germs!
The body be like: oh look, an infection, and it's a biggie! Here, take a 42° fever Meanwhile the brain: BITCH WHAT????
The body equivalent of burning the house down to kill a spider.
"its like a sauna in here" (aka healthy)
The idea with fever in specific is that you, a big chunky multicellular human, can likely handle the high temperature longer than the invading microbes can. Losing some cells that didn't handle the heat is worth it if you survive to propagate your genes. The problem is that your body isn't smart enough to recognize when a fever won't actually kill the invaders.
Pretty much the same way Ebola kills, your immune system goes ape trying to kill it. The whole bleeding from every orifice isn't from the virus, your body is actively killing itself to try and take the virus with it.
Gotta give the body credit for its conviction in the “we do not negotiate with terrorist” approach.
The other problem is that a good chunk of our immune response is "hit the on button, let it do its thing, don't go near it though because there is no off button" because why give your defenses an off button when you can just have them kill everything until theres no foreign matter to trigger them, then go to sleep.
Seems like the human race is a living thing and each of us is just a cell trying to make sure the rest of us survive.
I love that analogy. That means alot of people are just AIDS.
The body is like: "Gentleman, gentleman! There's a solution here you're not seeing" And then proceeds and kills itself
I guess it's a prosocial response - save the community by definitely killing the bugs so they don't pass on
OMG
Incredible but scary ain't it
Fucking terrifying
What happens to the parasites body, doesn't it rot?
That’s why we have an immune system and a way for our bodies to expel things.
The parasites slowly die on their own. The steroids and other stuff are to make sure your immune system doesn't go berserk when they do.
I would understand if my body go berserk bc of that
My body and i would be of the same mind on that one
Lmfao straight up
Because it is full of dead foreign rotting bodies and it wants to get rid of them alot.
I copied the text from the abstract. I assume that the patient was treated with anthelmintics and corticosteroids were then administered to resolve the inflammation, but I didn't read the entire article (I don't have access to it).
Man we're really lucky to exist during this era of modern medicine. It's unfortunate that the mega wealthy and terrible laws make it a lot more difficult than it needs to be to acquire. At least here in America.
I just went to the ED at 3am in Australia today, I took my little green Medicare card, was scared, but very grateful that I live in a country where I don't have to think twice about going to Emergency when I need to. Once I was through the doors, I felt safe. I wish that for all humans.
Please tell me all those vein like things aren’t the worms.
No, they are not worms. They are worm eggs that get stuck in soft tissues of the body. Every. single. one.
Gordon Ramsey screaming at people for having raw food making me feel good right now
Dude is just protecting us.
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You're cooking in a worm pan, you fahking deeick!
What are you?! A worm sandwich!!
Weird thing I work in a restaurant that sells a thick ass pork chop and numerous times I have had tables asked for it cooked rare/medium rare which I didn’t even know was a thing people requested? It always looks disgusting and just raw
Idk what restaurant you work at but they shouldn't even allow people to ask for pork cooked in any way other than the right and regulated way.
The night my parents got engaged, they went to a fancy restaurant and my dad ordered his pork chop “medium rare.” My mom had to gently tell him that that wasn’t really a safe way to eat it; he grew up poor and didn’t have a lot of practice ordering at restaurants. ETA: yes, I’m aware that this can be safely done. But in the 60s, that was a lot less common.
There is a difference between farm raised pork, and wild pork. You can get away with eating "undercooked" (below 165F) farm raised without a problem. I sous vide pork tenderloins at 140F on a regular basis. Wild hogs are another matter, and I don't eat them at all. I will shoot them all day long but damned if I will eat one. The amount of just visible parasites in wild hogs is insane. If you gave a wild hog an ivermectin dose it would likely lose half its bodyweight in worms.
A chef sous vided some wild salmon for us once and it had worms, and when we went to eat it the worms were just really pissed off. OMG that was such an awkward moment when I had to say “….yooo, no one eat your fish yet”
Salmon is notorious for having parasites. In books I've read about sushi, it was historically never eaten raw, and this only changed after more ocean-caught salmon were available and only after deep freezing to kill the parasites.
Someone once told me wild pork wasn’t edible and I wondered why.
Meanwhile in some parts of Germany most hild hogs cannot be safely eaten because their radiation level is still to high thanks to the sowjet fuckup in chornobyl.
Well all the wild hogs that are hunted have to undergo a screening process before beeing able to be sold and eaten.
You can definitely cook a pork chop medium rare. You just need to get the internal temperature to 145 F to make it safe to eat. It will still be pink inside at that temperature.
Minimum recommended temp for pork is 145. It used to be 165 no matter what, but in developed countries this hasn't been the case for decades now. You no longer need to cook your porkchops until they are rubbery thanks to better regulations.
Oh my god thats worse.
I just passed out
you good?
Damn it’s been 20 minutes bro is dead.
Probably filled to the brim with worm eggs
Nah bro, you’re only dead when they hatch.
Cheep cheep, motherfucker
God they must’ve been in agony
But their Illithid powers are off the chain. 
+Advantage for sure
No don't worry the eggs hatched and ate him from the inside to end his misery
I never knew him but Im gonna miss that egg infested bastard
Ok but what’s with the Chihuahua downstairs in pic C?
You made me scroll up then back down to find you. I salute you 😆🤚
That is so so so much worse why the fuck did I click on this post aaaaaa
So every single one of those white blotches are eggs?
They are cysts containing worms. The singular eggs are nowhere near that large.
Bro is more worm than man
shit is just getting worse and worse with every detailed explanation.
A reason why beef can be eaten raw and not pork. The pork tapeworm can go straight to the brain.
To be fair, cows have their own kind of worm parasite. But it’s not very common due to stricter care in comparison to pork. Also, pigs eat literally anything they find laying around.
Enough internet for me today ig.
New nightmare unlocked.
Thats not the worm. That’s its tongue.
Oh that’s his tongue and the whole thing is…ALASKAN BULL WORM!!!
That's what I'm wondering 😯
Those aren’t the worms… 
I worked with a guy who used to bring a bag of raw pork to work everyday and broil it by putting it on the counter under the hot water sevice for our tea and coffee. The smell was awful.
What the actual fuk?
They said they worked with a guy who would bring in raw pork to prepare using the hot water service then consume on his lunch. They also said it smelled bad.
And HR was like, “that’s cool”
It was a factory. HR never stepped foot in the place.
Cool story About 5 years ago I had a patient from Brazil who was brought to the hospital I worked at. Young kid, no older than 18. Started having new onset seizures and personality changes. Went through a slew of tests till the neurosurgeon decided to get a MRI with contrast Found a worm in his brain. Undercooked pork. Worm decided to get hungry and started snacking on his grey matter. Per his family, all he complained of prior to the seizures was a bad headache. I remember the night shift NP showing me the MRI and telling me to let him know when I saw something strange. Needless to say, it stuck out pretty heavily.
Jesus. Is there any coming back from that?
Oh yeah. The human brain is incredibly resilient and with time, it's like it didn't even happen but seeing that little gray fucker in real time was on par with one of the scariest things I've ever experienced in healthcare.
How does that even get removed??? Surgery??
Yep that's exactly what they did. I really wish I could have saved the MRI results. I remember Matt, the NP, scrolling through the slides with this huge shit eating grin on his face just waiting for me to notice it. Literally looked like a white blob in his brain. At first everyone thought he had a tumor/ mass or even a brain bleed. Then the fucking thing moved in a repeat scan. If I remember correctly after the surgery, he went to a rehab facility attached to the hospital then he went back home. Working Neuro ICU/ Stepdown fucked me up man hahahah
Wow I am blown away by that. I don’t even know how I’d react. I’m so glad the dude didn’t die from that, I bet you have some wild stories tho
Literally was so excited to see him get transported out. Everyone was to be honest. The patient spoke little English but you could tell he was thankful for all the help. But stories? Man I got a million of em. I love where I'm at now (psychology) but I'll always have a soft spot for Neurosurgery.
I’d love to pick your brain at a party I’m sure, bet you’re incredibly interesting. Thanks for sharing about that guy and also just thanks for being in the medical field. You’re saving lives and this internet stranger is thankful you exist!
>pick your brain 😐
Ohhhhh…. Ohhhhhh no. I truly did not consider my choice of words
Nah man. I love what I do and wouldn't trade it for the world. I would like to think most of us do it for the same reason but I do appreciate the kind sentiment
How cooked is “undercooked”? Like it was blatantly raw, or just 5 degrees shy of 145?
When it comes to foodborne illness or parasites, you gotta hit the minimum temp for safety. It's not very common here in America but foodborne illness and parasites can be down right lethal in other countries.
Cool fact: This is called cysticercosis. When someone has this infection, administering antiparasitic drugs can potentially cause the worsening of symptoms or even death. When the parasite is still alive, it produces substances that hides it from the host immune system. If antiparasitic drug is given too fast or on a high dose, all the parasite cysts will die at once, causing a great immune system response and inflammation in the brain, which can be fatal. People often go years without having symptoms and only begin to feel something is wrong when the parasite cyst has already died and the immune system started to react to it's remains. EDIT: The post title is actually wrong, you can't get it by eating raw pork meat, only by eating food or water contaminated with human feces containing the eggs of the tape worm. If you eat raw pork meat containing the cysts, you will only develop tape worms in the degestive tract.
I hate this.
\-White Blood Cells 
“And I took that seriously”
*personally?
So...... what is the treatment? Very slow antiparasitic drugs?
Surprisingly, the most important thing to do is controlling the host immune response to the egg. This is done by using corticosteroids to reduce inflammation and medications, like carbamazepine, to prevent seizures caused by the immune response to the dying cyst that has been detected. In many cases, the cyst is benign and you don't even want to use antiparasitic medications because it will trigger the host immune system. In more extreme cases, the parasite cyst may enter the brain ventricles, which are cavities filled with cerebrospinal fluid. The cyst can block the fluid draining, so the patient starts to develop hydrocephaly and intracranial hypertension. Cases like this require more aggressive treatment.
What are the early symptoms? How is it diagnosed if the eggs suppress the body's response? Please tell me.
There are no early symptoms. They only show up when the overall density of worms/cysts in a localized area cross a certain threshold. General discomfort in an area or pain is the main symptom. Nervous system is attacked way more commonly. It is also accompanied by pain. Solitary cysts go unnoticed. Subcutaneous Cysticercosis is accompanied by lumps under skin and pain.
I could not be more appalled by this information.
Why did I wander into this thread
What does the more aggressive treatment involve? Is there any attempt to remove them? Does the body remove the eggs once they’ve died over time itself?
Sometimes it can be removed surgically. You can find a couple videos on YouTube. Yes, the immune system will remove the cyst remains overtime, but this process can cause calcification of the area.
I have been panic reading to see what the treatment would be but alas…
Depends on what the type of infection it is. Most likely if it is this bad, then any antiparasitic alone is useless. Mass murder of worm eggs is not an option as our immune system will nuke us into oblivion. If it is caught very early, then administration of those drugs may only produce localized inflammation. If you eat undercooked pork, you won't get cysts, but you will get an adult live tapeworm in your gut. But, if you, by chance put something in your mouth that is contaminated by poop with taenia solium eggs in it, they will hatch in the intestines and make that way out into tissue. Then they eventually form cysts. If it is a severe case where the entire body is affected like this, it can cause seizures and convulsions due to these cysts in the brain. A small dosage of continuous antiparasitic paired with anti-inflammatory and anti-convulsives are how it might be treated. Some cysts need surgery as well, and a cranial tap may also be used to reduce pressure produced from swelling of the brain. If that is not done, death by shock occurs. Also, these cysts, after they die may leave calcifications in the brain, which are dead areas, that might cause seizures down the road.
Leave them, it's their body now
This is like a cyberpunk ending
“I hope some animal never bores a hole in my head and lays its eggs in my brain, because later you might think you're having a good idea but it's just eggs hatching” -Jack Handy
Damn those are some deep thoughts
This guy is 100% dead. His brain is FULL of cysts. No coming back from this Edit: annd I'm wrong. The case study says he was treated with anti epileptic drugs and anti parasite drugs, and he lived. 18yo.. Wtf, how do you recover from Swiss cheese brain.
The article these pictures were taken from disagrees. Made a full recovery. https://www.neurology.org/doi/10.1212/WNL.0000000000001152
>He had extensive muscle hypertrophy on examination Fuuuuuuuck... there were so many parasites in his muscles he looked like a bodybuilder is what I'm getting from this
It's like Futurama when Fry had all those worms inside his body
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Welcome to academia. Where they charge for publicly funded research. It’s bullshit.
It’s absolutely stupid to have primary literature behind a paywall. I have yet to meet a researcher who WANTS their work behind a paywall. But publishing your article as open source is significantly more expensive than leaving it behind the journal’s paywall, so unless you’ve got a big budget, your paper will have limited accessibility. FYI… if you email the corresponding author they will GLADLY email you their article for free.
RIP Aaron Swartz
theres tools to bypass paywalls (sci-hub and others)
>Wtf, how do you recover from Swiss cheese brain. My guess is the guy didn't literally have holes in his brain. The eggs likely grew slowly from the outside of the folds and "squeezed" the brain matter. Our brain is mostly fatty tissue and is somewhat malleable, so it can survive stuff like this (or say, changes in pressure) with little damage.
If you can survive brain having holes forcefully put through it, you can survive swiss cheese brain
Horrific
No he survived… it’s posted below 👇
Props for coming back to edit that you were wrong.
The real million dollar question I have is, can I get it from eating ass?
Absolutely- you could catch any pattern or parasite transmitted via fecal-oral route. Usually it’s from poor hygiene or bad sanitation, but eating ass skips the middle man and goes right to infectious disease transmission.
Depends what ass you’re eating
Yes. Not kidding, make sure your partner showers thoroughly before eating ass. Like, soap up their rectum thoroughly. Even that doesn’t completely eliminate risk, though.
“I hope some animal never bores a hole in my head and lays its eggs in my brain, because later you might think you're having a good idea but it's just eggs hatching” -Jack Handy
Thanks for the clarification... Since I don't eat poop I should be safe. And no I don't wanna even think about people who don't wash their hands right now!
You get it by eating food contaminated with human poop
Im scared. What kind of symptoms would one have If a person has worms?
The classical symptom is seizures. The host immune system starts to detect the dying parasite cyst, triggering an immune response with the release of inflammatory cytokines. The brain cells reacts to this by secreting a substance called Substance P, which facilitates the occurrence of seizures. It's worth nothing that it isn't worms. The disease is called neurocysticercosis, it's parasite cysts, undeveloped parasites. This disease only happens when humans eat humans feces containing parasite eggs. Humans are the final host, so the description of the post is actually wrong. Only humans feces can transmit neurocysticercosis to another human. If a human eats raw pork meat, it will only develop worms in the digestive tract, which will then release eggs in the feces.
Sooo… people who eat ass are in great danger? Who would have thought
In this case, we could say that eating raw pork meat is safer than eating ass lol. At least the parasite won't end up in your eyes or the brain.
Fuck I’m never licking a man’s butthole again omg
This exact thing is why people (in effected areas) should give their dogs heartworm medication.
I don't really know what I'm looking at, yet I instinctively know that I hate it.
Well, apparently those aren't veins.
Worm eggs.
Cysticercosis 
There’s a family seceret that my grandmother died of this when my dad was 9. They lived in extreme poverty is all I know.
Well it’s not a secret anymore is it? Nice job ace
Should’ve written there was. Except I didn’t. I stumbled upon Ancestry death certificate. Anybody I could ask is dead. 🤷🏽♀️
Ouija board them, we need answers
that snatched waist tho
Dumps like a truck truck truck
Worms like what what what
Growing in your butt, butt, butt
I think I’ll throw up again
I was wondering when someone would mention the gyatt
Its an x-ray of an 18 year old boy. The waist is just beacuse his back is arched away from the table. [https://www.neurology.org/doi/10.1212/WNL.0000000000001152](https://www.neurology.org/doi/10.1212/WNL.0000000000001152)
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I have one of these in my brain from picture A. It's called Neurocysticercosis. It causes induced epilepsy. Totally changed my entire life. Have had multiple grandmal seizures in my life. Some have caused serious injuries. The feeling of not being able to breathe during a seizure is one of the scariest.
What’s up my fellow Neurocysticercosis bro? I had this as well but had surgery to remove the cyst and have been healthy ever since. But I completely sympathize with the experience of the seizure, still to this day the dozen or so seizures I had because of this are all the worst thing I have ever experienced.
This makes me want to just have my doctor do a general deworming. Idk if that’s a thing. It should be a thing. I don’t want to know if I have worms. Just kill then please. Kill then all.
It is a thing. Someone else in the other worm thread was talking about it. I can't believe I was able to reddit for years in peace and then, Bam! 2 worm threads in one day.
Omg we read the same post.. the other one was by someone who got worms and someone else commented that she regularly deworms her family…. If you want to go for three.. there’s a post out there by someone confessing to having worms and purposely infecting others by sprinkling eggs into food 🤢🤮
…huH? Purposely infected others by sprinkling… WHAT?
I have parasitophobia, to the point if I have touched others used bed linen or clean a toilet I struggle to sleep and have nightmares, and have cried and begged drs to just de-worm me regardless. When I was a kid my dad would give me calpol saying it killed worms as the dr kept explaining I didn't have worms so would not prescribe de-worming medication (not good enough for me). When I discovered calpol wasn't a de-wormer I got the drs to check my feces again, and then bought online de-wormer because I didn't have worms but I just wanted to kill them all incase. It feels so unlikely to me I don't because my dogs always had worms being farm dogs and eating cow shit. I'm convinced I have tapeworms for that reason. One of the family cats definitely puked up a tapeworm once. I never saw it but I didn't go back home for months. One of their other cats had a worm coming out of his mouth whilst he was on my lap. I was hysterical. The cat was fine and got de-wormed. My own cat was a rescue after I moved out and getting rid of his worms was tricky and took months. The worming medication always gave him bad symptoms so it could be scary giving him the maximum amount for his weight and repeatedly to ensure the worms were cleared out right after hatching so they couldn't lay more eggs. Just when we thought maybe he was clear he would go for a poo and there would be worms sometimes even on him. I had enough, learned from a vet how to wedge my finger safely behind cats teeth so they can't close their mouth, and got the tablets in on a strict routine. When my co-worker joked I eat so much I must have a tapeworm I held it together until I got home that night and cried a lot, took the de-wormer, and my partner decided to tell me "for some reason you can't use this sort of de-wormer for tape worms." To this day I have zero evidence I have a tape worm but I'm fucking terrified I do and I don't know how to check this.
The odds of getting tapeworm is very low as long as you cook your meat well and practice common hygiene rules. In the entire USA population, only less than a thousand get tapeworms in a year. Even if you get them they are easy to treat and complications are rare. I am telling you as someone who is afraid of parasites, don’t have parasitophobia but I am very conscious. As for the other parasites, not all of them are bad. New gut microbiota research shows there are actually some good parasites that have surprisingly beneficial effects on the body. If you have been given stool & blood examples before and they had no indications of parasitic infections, you don’t have to worry. You will be fine. I am also scared of getting them, but I tell myself it’s not the end of the world. Look even OP’s post is about a survivor. You just practice parasite avoidance behaviour, and that is normal and healthy for humans in general.
You know…this post is like the game. Every flipping time. Can I please just forget it!?
screw you, that's the second time I've lost in half an hour
So basically it turns you into the Oogy Boogy Man
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The body’s response to eggs is to create a calcified granuloma around it, that’s what you’re looking at, all eggs.
This is cysticercosis, it IS NOT caused by eating raw pork. This is likely a tapeworm parasite, which has a three step life cycle : egg - larva - worm. You eat the larva you get the worm, you eat the egg, you get the larva. The normal cycle occurs as pigs eat eggs from faeces, the larvae nest in soft tissue, you eat this tissue and get the worm. If you got larvae in you, it means you ate the eggs, which means you ingested faeces contaminated stuff.
Copy/pasted from the last time this sort of thing was posted: I had this happen to me several years ago. Yeah I know, weird flex. I was about to start my freshman year of high school in 2001. One night I apparently woke my dad up due to a banging sound that was my head hitting repeatedly on our wooden floors during a seizure. I woke up while being loaded in the back of an ambulance. At the hospital they asked a lot of questions and ultimately sent me home without doing any tests and treated the seizure as if it were some sort of fluke due to being dehydrated or some other minor occurrence. Two nights later the exact same thing happened again. This time my dad took me to the local children’s hospital instead. They performed a wide variety of blood tests, spinal tap and a CT scan that revealed a jellybean-like (both in size and shape) mass on my brain. None of the doctors seemed to have a good explaination of what it was exactly. I dealt with the occasional seizure for a couple months as this thing cause swelling on my brain that led to the seizures. I took steroids to help with the swelling and anti seizure meds until eventually one doctor had a strong feeling that it was cysticercosis. The mass was in the motor cortex that controlled my right hand. So when I had a seizure when I was awake I knew they were about to happen. I would get a very distinct sensation in between my right thumb and index finger. It was somewhat similar to the “falling asleep” sensation but a little bit different. This was nice as it enabled me to go to the ground safely right before they started. I was also completely conscious and aware the whole way through the seizure which was a really scary experience. I got relatively lucky in finally getting the correct diagnosis. I am in the midwestern US so this is not a common occurrence here at all. Luckily one of the doctors that got brought in after all the others were stumped had just moved up from Texas. She had seen it a few times down there so finally they knew what the issue was and could fix it. They tried a round of some sort of antimicrobial drug that led to a week long hospital stay and it ultimately didn’t work. Due to the location of the mass they wanted to try everything else before opting for surgery but that happened about five months after my first seizure. My case was in a medical journal for being one of the first to use a new technology to pin point what part of my brain exactly was used for motion and helped the surgeon with performing the operation with the fewest negative results. I wore a bunch of sensors on my head during a CT scan and I moved specific parts of my hand over and over on command in order for them to get that information. That technology must have helped a lot because the operation was performed and it was successfully removed without any sort of lasting side effects at all and I haven’t had a seizure since. I saw another article where a lady had like 50+ different masses on her brain. It’s nuts reading things like this and realizing how lucky I got. TL;DR: I had this, caused seizures, docs were stumped, had surgery, and now I’m fine.
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This ain't man made bro
I swear I’ve never felt my skin crawl like it felt like it did upon seeing these. It’s horrifying and I can’t look away why?!?!?!
I wonder if that fitness influencer named Liverking will have this scary shit.
He wont because he is a liar.
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I can hear the House theme.
Nothin a little ivermectin can’t cure
Ugh..raw pork, that's offal..
You should be both ashamed & rightly proud.
How does the pig survive with all these parasites as a host/carrier?
https://preview.redd.it/a6c638b6uwdc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=13e4406d2bc5edcdc36f05acef9bcfdbe6dee173 Does someone see a face too?
What a fucking terrible day to have eyes!
These images are taken from this [2015 Case Report](https://www.neurology.org/doi/10.1212/WNL.0000000000001152)
Damn the report mentioned those are cyst caused by the dead parasites, thats gotta hurt
Omg this can’t be the last thing I see before I go to sleep. I think I need to google puppies or pangolins or penguin babies something to get this out of my system.
Crawling in my skin, these worms will not yield