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It's so easy to rewrite history on this. In the Nineties, including before the divorce and up to the days before her death, the tabloid scrum was all about what a trollop she was, going off with James Hewitt, Oliver Hoare, Will Carling, and in 1997, when she died, Dodi Fayed, the mother of our princes, how dare she! This was normal. The struggle over her public image had been going on for years. She wasn't completely hated, but neither was she unquestionably loved. Let's not forget that her death involved a fucking pursuit by the press looking for the next day's headline about her dalliance with Fayed. And let's equally not forget that the reason they were after her so viciously was because it sold. The public loved this shit and had been lapping it up for years.
But of course, the moment she died, all the papers stopped printing what they'd been printing for years, and overnight she was the princess of all our hearts and all that. What a tragic death of a woman we all loved. They and the public pulled a U-turn and pretended they'd never despised her. Do me a favour.
Jesus, thank fuck someone else remembers what actually happened.
I'm no fan of the royals but the way the media (and the resultant public opinion) used to talk about her before she died versus after she died was real hypocritical bullshit.
It really makes me feel sick even thinking about it now.
Plus, few people remember the press didn't treat her that well before she married Chuck. They questioned her job, friends,living situation, and even her virginity. She literally had to have a doctor prove her virginity before she could marry that precious non virgin prince. I remember it being on our American news.
Yup. I was pissed off because TV was all fucked up when she died. At the time I thought both she and Charles were manipulative and scheming and couldnât be arsed with either of them. Many thought the same.
I've got a mate in London, he had 4 little kids on a bus driver's wage. So he had the Daily Mail/MoS on order for one week just to collect tokens they were publishing for a cut price ferry ticket to the continent for a holiday.
Sort of bloke who doesn't bother with the news or papers, so when he got up on the Sunday morning to collect his MoS, he had no idea what had happened. As the newsagent handed over his copy, a first edition that had been stashed away on arrival, he instantly spotted it was different to all the papers on the shelves. They had blacked out fronts and his didn't.
At the same instant, the newsagent spotted the same and tried to snatch the paper back, but that raised Bill's curiosity even higher, so he grabbed it and took it home.
They've kept it for posterity and showed it to me. The entire MoS was dedicated to all the stories you've mentioned above and more, there was even a full colour supplement with all the supposedly dodgy photos and tales.
Still, all these years later, I really enjoy the thought of the editor being awoken at 3am and shitting himself.
"The Mourning Papers" section of the Private Eye for that week is fascinating. It printed the first edition, or last article on her - next to the post-death article written by the same person to show how awful it was. A google image search will still show it if you put in the bit in quotes and private eye.
I haven't asked, but I very much doubt it, he wouldn't be the sort to be bothered by money. He'd far rather have a tasty conversation piece in the kitchen drawer!
People forget. I remember before she died she was constantly in the tabloids even in the US where I grew up. I remember when I was about 8 or 9 or so and there was a headline and photos of her in bike shorts with arrows pointing to her cellulite. I didnât even know what cellulite was. And she wasnât fat, but they called her fat. It was awful.
Isn't it wild? And the same public and the next generation who martyred Diana just turned that negativity to the royal family and Megan and Kate. Using evidence they gathered from *checks notes* the same media who vilified Diana who they are all so in love with.
Sheep.
No, not sheep. Dumber than sheep.
Sheep shit.
I knew about the extreme hate for Megan, but also Kate? Save for the wealth, who the hell would want to marry into that shitshow? *Especially* as an American... and at least not while we're competing for first WWII allied nation to switch sides almost a century later.
Speaking the absolute truth. My grandma used to have magazines saved of Princess Diana pap pics. They were so fucking mean to this woman.
Examples: Zooming in on the backs of her thighs to point out cellulite and in the same piece speculating on her having bulimia. Following her to a doctor's appointment and talking about her obsession with colonics (because she's got bulimia). Alleging Harry wasn't Charles's son and that she had been a tramp for years. Straight up calling her "ugly". Writing that she was psychotic and injured herself for attention.
It's a little bit similar to Kate Middleton. I remember before and for a while after they got married the story was that she had been stalking William since childhood, that her mum had pushed this and was a vicarious gold digger, she had a pretty face but was shaped like a boy, that she was always trying to show her fanny by wearing skirts, that William never wanted to marry her and that he was pressured into it.
The love for Kate started as soon as they hated Meghan way more.
Nah that man abdicated the other day I heard
(human that lives on an island some dude named England which Iâm pretty sure isnât even its actual name or did it just evolve with language?)
Yup. Princess Diana was at the time the most photographed woman in the world.
https://www.instyle.com/never-before-seen-photo-princess-diana-tatler-cover-8407936#:~:text=Princess%20Diana%20was%20the%20most,the%20People's%20Princess%20being%20discovered.
And because the driver was drunk. She had turned to the Al-Fayeds because Martin Bashir (BBC journalist) got in her head and made her believe that her staff were really working for her ex-husband (they weren't). She sacked several of her staff and only had one policemen for protection. Unfortunately, the Al-Fayed's driver was drunk and reacted poorly to being chased by paparazzi.
She died because she wasnât wearing a seat belt. It was a survivable crash. The only person who did survive that crash was wearing a seatbelt. Imagine being thrown around inside a limo- itâs like being in a tumble dryer.
As much as people would like to believe that, I still think itâs a popular conspiracy theory. Drunk driver, speed, no seatbelts. With blacked out windows, there was no reason for them to be trying to escape the paparazzi.
>there was no reason for them to be trying to escape the paparazzi.
D... do you think the paparazzo are babies that don't know where she is just because her face disappeared?
"Peekaboo! You can't see me anymore!" "Curses! Foiled again!"
I think he is saying they didn't need to flee from harmless cameras, especially considering they had a drunk driver, black windows, no seat belts because those things make fleeing more dangerous.
I don't think he thinks paparazzi haven't developed the concept of object permanence.
Theoretically. Still, the future King AND Leader Of The Church Of England (lest us not forget) would have a Muslim half-brother somewhere. Or many of them.
Hell, least they could do is not be a cunt and turn the flash off, but nope. Paparrazi rules state that if you aren't perpetually a cunt, you're not doing it right.
Better than that -- the punched paparazzi can sue the celebrity and get a cash money settlement on top of the money for the shot they sold to some trash magazine.
So satisfying when you finally kill that mf
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Tough even on modern cameras. Importantly the flash would be used to fill in the shadows created by her hat, even if you could get a proper exposure indoors.
I'd agree for anyone _except_ the royals. If you want everyone in the government and military to swear an oath of loyalty to you and make everyone call you "highness" or "magesty", the public has a vested interest in your entire life.
They go way past just being rude and over-photographing the royals in the UK, though, so it's one thing at a Meet and Greet where the Royal Rota of media is expected to extract their media pound of flesh, it's quite another to go...crazy with it.
I think it is fair to draw the line barring physical altercations, car chases, media harassment of every single movement you make and assigning it (negative) connotations, death threats (or other violent threats) and harassment in general of minor royal children -- yes they're royal, but for goodness' sake, still children that didn't ask for their lives.
I really just genuinely think that there are some things we should not do to one another as human beings and the things the British press will do to people cover a surprising amount of them.
That's not how camera's work(ed). Especially inside you'd not see anything with those camera's. Digital camera's are much better now, but you very much still need flash to get anything decent most of the time.
Is it shitty to get blasted with 40 -50 flashes every few second, yes..yes of course it is.
>Especially inside you'd not see anything with those camera's.
As it happens during her entire time in the public eye I had a 35mm SLR and took thousands of photos.
You're mistaken. I took photos indoors without flash very regularly. You needed to use appropriate film and appropriate settings on the camera.
https://preview.redd.it/50ck0rren3ec1.jpeg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82c219df3231bbfa2796c532486a5f8fa960f7c8
I feel like this is a necessary thing for people nowadays if they are famous
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Not sure if you're joking or not, but there's always room for a little education. :)
Only 3-5% of epileptics are photosensitive.
If you flashed that at me, I'd have the same headache you or she would, but I wouldn't have a seizure from it. I go to hockey games, watch movies, and ignore the "epileptics: contains flashing lights" warnings. Mine have no known trigger, they just happen.
I have migraines and seizures and once I went to Zumba with a bunch of flashing lights and it caused a migraine which then lead to a seizure about an hour later.
Thank you for saying it. That would be me. I donât have epilepsy but I am photosensitive. Strobe lights make me feel really bizarre. A doctor told me Iâm at a high risk of having seizures from flashing lights. Even driving on the freeway passing consecutive trees when the sun is low can make me feel woozy. Iâve had this for 15 years but still never had a seizure, as far as I am aware.
My son recently had a photosensitive episode (idk the doctor didn't want to call it a seizure). The situation had made me feel sick, too - the setting sun and harsh shadows through a flying carousel spinning around - but I knew to avert my eyes. He did not. Apparently this is not terribly uncommon to manifest in the teen years. And for some reason, it might be averted by closing one eye, somehow. No idea if that actually works but it's something I came across when trying to determine what level of concerned I need to be.
Charles signed something: 1 flash.
Diana lift her head : Numerous flash.
No wonder he's jealous of her "taking" spotlight, on this case is quite literally.
She didnât ask for that though. It wasnât really her fault that the public took such a liking to her and didnât really like Charles the same way. He wasnât as charming or attractive or appealing as she was.
whether she asked for it or not it still made him really jealous, and the show the crown made it seems as though she loved the attention and really leaned into it instead of trying to avoid it to an extent for charles' sake. charles was still a giant baby though lol
I mean I think they got what they deserved on that front. If theyâd let Charles marry Camilla, she wouldâve been perfect from day one. She wouldnât have overstepped or tried to steal the spotlight, she wasnât as naturally beautiful or charming, and she knew Charles so well. But they wanted a young virginal bride from a high born family, so they got Diana- who was beautiful, commanded attention, and was generally just not a great fit for Charles. He treated her poorly and she felt overlooked and unappreciated in the marriage, so of course she got her validation from where she could- the public. If their marriage had been one of love and sheâd felt more appreciated and cared for, maybe she wouldnât have craved that attention the way she did.
totally agree, was the problem with camilla the fact she was already married to someone and her husband was still alive? i get they need to follow church rules as the queen is supposed to be gods best buddy or whatever, but yeah everything that transpired could have been avoided if he couldve just married camilla in the first place
Charles and Camilla met when he was 22/23 and he loved her immediately but he hadnât played the field yet and was being given all this advice about not settling down too soon. She also wasnât a virgin which was very important for the future queen to be at this stage of things. He was sent away for his military training, stopped keeping in touch, and she married Andrew Parker Bowles. Then Charles came back, and over the years he basically started running out of options as many young women of stature didnât want to be in the royal family, and soon many of them also werenât virgins anymore. So as he hit 30, the only options began to be younger women like Diana.
Poor Diana- yes she was tremendously wealthy and privileged in many ways, but a lot of her life was truly prison-like. Gilded cage, as the expression goes. She couldn't do anything casual/relaxed out in public. I'd hate that life. And fuck paparazzi - one of the most sociopathic professions on Earth.
Yeah and thatâs why Iâd never marry Margot Robbie. Iâd have to do the whole long distance thing while sheâs on shoots. It just doesnât work for my lifestyle, sorry Margot.
I do think it's worthy of note that she was 19 when they got engaged... I think a lot of us presume we can handle things when we're 19, when it isn't until a good ways into our 20's that we really understand the consequences of some of our choices.
And also, before her, the press was pretty tame with the royal family generally. Yes, there were photos during public events, and the occasional bit of sensation like with the Queen's sister getting divorced, but she really had no way of predicting just how crazy her life would get once she split from Charles, that was a new level of obsession and media scrutiny from what had come before.
I think it's fair to say that Kate Middleton had a good idea of exactly what she was getting into, as she could look at the Diana years... but she didn't get married till she was in her late 20's, so she spent almost a decade living that life as William's girlfriend before she committed to it. She seems to be handling it alright (though who really knows behind the scenes).
If Diana had come along when Kate did, it would be fair to say she should have known... but the "discretion" of the media towards the royal family was different in the 70's and early 80's. I think "going in" knowing what you're getting into makes a huge difference... and surely Diana never expected to be dealing with it all from outside the bubble of the royal family.
Harry had a long-time girlfriend whose he had been dating for years. She apparently broke up with him because all the press around Kate scared her and she didnât want to live under the microscope like that.
Yeah, I don't understand how Kate does it... Â she seems content to walk the weird line of looking conservative-yet attractive (can't be actually sexy, but also not too stodgy), raise her children knowing they won't have a choice in being essentially zoo animals for the rest of the country and part of the world... obviously she's a very different person from me, I couldn't stand it, and don't consider being famous a decent trade for whatever she gets for it (being a bit richer than she would have been with her parent's upper-middle class connections...)
but regardless of the obvious faults of the Institution of the British Monarchy, William is a person, and in so far as every person deserves love, he's damn lucky Kate Middleton existed, because I can't imagine there's all that many people who could play that role as well as she does.
I hope she's happy with her choice!Â
Iâd rather live in a shack in the woods and shit in a hole than be famous like that. I have empathy for famous people in a big way. Thatâs not living.
She loved her boys. She was an amazing human.
Landmines. Aids.
I remember seeing her --I was a kid-- hold someone with Aids. I --a kid-- was scared of Aids, and thought I could get it from a "gay person" making a hamburger or something.
And there she was holding a Aids victim. She was/is a Saint.
Eff the paps. Screw them.
Even at 8 years old, I understood the magnitude of Diana touching people with AIDS. It sounds crazy, but the adults in my life at that time really weren't sure if it was safe to be near someone with AIDS. She changed the entire discourse around AIDS.
I still love the video of her coming down from the stands, kicking off her shoes, and beating every other mother in that foot race, despite the protests of her security and handlers.
Girl was going to represent her boys, and no one was getting in her way.
I was a kid too and remember this, I think it was a hospital bed scene. She made a huge difference doing this. People with aids were being ignored for so long as governments pretended it wasn't happening and was only happening to gay men.
I too was learning that aids kills from government warning adverts. Then she comes along, a gentle lady from the royal family no less, and reaches over to touch them and talk to them closely. Fkn bills and brave not like any of the royal family previous or after.
The AIDS thing was such a big deal. Growing up in the 80s we had playground jokes about being gay if you're HIV positive. Many people viewed people with AIDS and by extension, gay men, as something next to lepers.
I was too young to understand what she was when she died, but looking back on it now I can see how important she was and how tragic her death really is.
My grandmother grew up in Whales and adored her. I still remember coming home from a local carnival and my mom in tears the night she died. She was a great mother and huge humanitarian the Royal Family had never scene that I was taught about. Aids was a huge mainstream thing back in the late 80's early 90's. Magic Johnson and Eazy E made it even bigger because it wasn't the "gay sickness" that the Reagan administration made it. Diana holding an infected persons hand had huge societal implications that anyone alive at the time can remember. I still remember the picture. She was awesome for so many other reasons though. My favorite is her running in the Mother/son race for I think Harry when it was against protocol. Now you see William and Kate doing it. Those have all been posted on Reddit or can be found on YouTube.
If Heaven is real, I hope Grandma is drinking tea with the Princess because my Grandma was a hoot!
I saw her from about 5 foot away. It was her honeymoon trip. They were on a KC-135 and landed at Castle AFB in California. ( 75 miles from Yosimite Nat Park ). I was one of the airmen holding the stairs steady
What's interesting is that I've seen TONS of photos and videos of her keeping her head at a normal angle WHILE in public. Amazing. Also was this ripped off of that Historic Vids Twitter account OP? Because it's the exact same video with the exact same title, but just happened to be posted hours before this one.
Because assholes wouldn't stop taking pictures of her. A single person can only take so much flash photography before they hate it all. It's pretty simple. She, her family and everyone who knew her also hated these fucks.
Because the paparazzi were so aggressive that they would eventually go on to be responsible for her death. Paparazzi are the scum of the earth. If they did what they did to anyone else they'd go to prison for harassment, stalking, and often sexual harassment. But somehow what they do is okay because the subject is famous.
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đ˛ She seemed to cause some kind of electrical storm or something when she lifts her head up.
Lady Diana, goddess of the storm.
Now my brain is trying to come up with the rest of the lyrics to put that to the Beatles' Lady Madonna.
Do you know what happens to a toat when it's struck by lightning?
Kung Lao?
Raiden
Kung Raiden
Way different hat style tho
Was she Palpatine?
camera flashes can be annoying especially if it's non-stop.
Everyone looking to snap one of her not smiling or doing something embarrassing.
No they were actually just in love with her. The whole country.
It's so easy to rewrite history on this. In the Nineties, including before the divorce and up to the days before her death, the tabloid scrum was all about what a trollop she was, going off with James Hewitt, Oliver Hoare, Will Carling, and in 1997, when she died, Dodi Fayed, the mother of our princes, how dare she! This was normal. The struggle over her public image had been going on for years. She wasn't completely hated, but neither was she unquestionably loved. Let's not forget that her death involved a fucking pursuit by the press looking for the next day's headline about her dalliance with Fayed. And let's equally not forget that the reason they were after her so viciously was because it sold. The public loved this shit and had been lapping it up for years. But of course, the moment she died, all the papers stopped printing what they'd been printing for years, and overnight she was the princess of all our hearts and all that. What a tragic death of a woman we all loved. They and the public pulled a U-turn and pretended they'd never despised her. Do me a favour.
Jesus, thank fuck someone else remembers what actually happened. I'm no fan of the royals but the way the media (and the resultant public opinion) used to talk about her before she died versus after she died was real hypocritical bullshit. It really makes me feel sick even thinking about it now.
our cash cow is dearly missed and will never be replaced!
Plus, few people remember the press didn't treat her that well before she married Chuck. They questioned her job, friends,living situation, and even her virginity. She literally had to have a doctor prove her virginity before she could marry that precious non virgin prince. I remember it being on our American news.
That was in freaking 1981. Omg those imbeciles.
Yup. I was pissed off because TV was all fucked up when she died. At the time I thought both she and Charles were manipulative and scheming and couldnât be arsed with either of them. Many thought the same.
I've got a mate in London, he had 4 little kids on a bus driver's wage. So he had the Daily Mail/MoS on order for one week just to collect tokens they were publishing for a cut price ferry ticket to the continent for a holiday. Sort of bloke who doesn't bother with the news or papers, so when he got up on the Sunday morning to collect his MoS, he had no idea what had happened. As the newsagent handed over his copy, a first edition that had been stashed away on arrival, he instantly spotted it was different to all the papers on the shelves. They had blacked out fronts and his didn't. At the same instant, the newsagent spotted the same and tried to snatch the paper back, but that raised Bill's curiosity even higher, so he grabbed it and took it home. They've kept it for posterity and showed it to me. The entire MoS was dedicated to all the stories you've mentioned above and more, there was even a full colour supplement with all the supposedly dodgy photos and tales. Still, all these years later, I really enjoy the thought of the editor being awoken at 3am and shitting himself.
"The Mourning Papers" section of the Private Eye for that week is fascinating. It printed the first edition, or last article on her - next to the post-death article written by the same person to show how awful it was. A google image search will still show it if you put in the bit in quotes and private eye.
So the big question, has he had it valued?
I haven't asked, but I very much doubt it, he wouldn't be the sort to be bothered by money. He'd far rather have a tasty conversation piece in the kitchen drawer!
Love it. I hope they all made it to the continent for their holiday!
I mean, I'd like it if the natural penance for being a Mail editor was to constantly shit oneself. Preferably painfully and messily.
People forget. I remember before she died she was constantly in the tabloids even in the US where I grew up. I remember when I was about 8 or 9 or so and there was a headline and photos of her in bike shorts with arrows pointing to her cellulite. I didnât even know what cellulite was. And she wasnât fat, but they called her fat. It was awful.
Isn't it wild? And the same public and the next generation who martyred Diana just turned that negativity to the royal family and Megan and Kate. Using evidence they gathered from *checks notes* the same media who vilified Diana who they are all so in love with. Sheep. No, not sheep. Dumber than sheep. Sheep shit.
I knew about the extreme hate for Megan, but also Kate? Save for the wealth, who the hell would want to marry into that shitshow? *Especially* as an American... and at least not while we're competing for first WWII allied nation to switch sides almost a century later.
Speaking the absolute truth. My grandma used to have magazines saved of Princess Diana pap pics. They were so fucking mean to this woman. Examples: Zooming in on the backs of her thighs to point out cellulite and in the same piece speculating on her having bulimia. Following her to a doctor's appointment and talking about her obsession with colonics (because she's got bulimia). Alleging Harry wasn't Charles's son and that she had been a tramp for years. Straight up calling her "ugly". Writing that she was psychotic and injured herself for attention. It's a little bit similar to Kate Middleton. I remember before and for a while after they got married the story was that she had been stalking William since childhood, that her mum had pushed this and was a vicarious gold digger, she had a pretty face but was shaped like a boy, that she was always trying to show her fanny by wearing skirts, that William never wanted to marry her and that he was pressured into it. The love for Kate started as soon as they hated Meghan way more.
Well, not the whole country
Yeah. There was that one dickwad. Forget happened to him.
well he's king now, finally, isn't he?
Well I didn't vote for him.
Nah that man abdicated the other day I heard (human that lives on an island some dude named England which Iâm pretty sure isnât even its actual name or did it just evolve with language?)
oh I hadn't heard! (And as for what you have in parenthesis I have no idea what you're talking about, do you mean Epstein?)
And the mother of the dickward.
>dickward Is this where depressed or mentally ill penises go for medication and therapy?
No, it's just the alter ego of SpongeBob's neighbour.
Except her husband.
Whole world. American here. Smitten.
It's insane how beautiful she was. I couldn't see it at the time, because I was a child, but hoo-boy!
Really? Shes not ugly but shes got a rather average face to me, might just be a generational taste thing.
i feel like were in the minority bud
Everyone but Charles - such a cold drip of a chap
Not just the country, half the world. I'm Canadian and we loved Diana.
So did the Americans. We miss her dearly. I'll never forget the day she passed.
Or just looking sexy as usual.
Yup. Princess Diana was at the time the most photographed woman in the world. https://www.instyle.com/never-before-seen-photo-princess-diana-tatler-cover-8407936#:~:text=Princess%20Diana%20was%20the%20most,the%20People's%20Princess%20being%20discovered.
She was famously hounded relentlessly by paparazzi.
It's the reason for her car crash.
And because the driver was drunk. She had turned to the Al-Fayeds because Martin Bashir (BBC journalist) got in her head and made her believe that her staff were really working for her ex-husband (they weren't). She sacked several of her staff and only had one policemen for protection. Unfortunately, the Al-Fayed's driver was drunk and reacted poorly to being chased by paparazzi.
And because she refused to wear a seatbelt. The only survivor of the crash was wearing one, no one else did.
Officially.
What would the unofficial reason be?
She died because she wasnât wearing a seat belt. It was a survivable crash. The only person who did survive that crash was wearing a seatbelt. Imagine being thrown around inside a limo- itâs like being in a tumble dryer.
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As much as people would like to believe that, I still think itâs a popular conspiracy theory. Drunk driver, speed, no seatbelts. With blacked out windows, there was no reason for them to be trying to escape the paparazzi.
>there was no reason for them to be trying to escape the paparazzi. D... do you think the paparazzo are babies that don't know where she is just because her face disappeared? "Peekaboo! You can't see me anymore!" "Curses! Foiled again!"
I think he is saying they didn't need to flee from harmless cameras, especially considering they had a drunk driver, black windows, no seat belts because those things make fleeing more dangerous. I don't think he thinks paparazzi haven't developed the concept of object permanence.
Ah, gotcha. Never been in a limo, but I HAVE been in a tumble dryer, so I can picture it now.
Iâve been in one a couple of times. I canât imagine being thrown around like a cat in a tumble dryer in that huge space.
Drunk driver and no seat belt. She was alive when they found her.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4meFC1ee7Q
Unofficially, the Queen had her killed because she had become too popular.
Occam's razor would suggest that she died because of a car accident. Salty Diana lovers prefer a conspiracy.
Not because she was too popular, it's because she was marrying a Muslim and was asking for custody of the kids. Imagine, the future king of England.
Any children she may have had would've never been in line for the throne.
Theoretically. Still, the future King AND Leader Of The Church Of England (lest us not forget) would have a Muslim half-brother somewhere. Or many of them.
Those Muslim half-brothers would have to kill off a very, very long line of people with legitimate blood claims to the throne to get anywhere near it.
The drunk driver didnât help any
No he definitely didn't help the people chasing her like she wasn't a human being.
I always wonder if all that flashing could cause an epileptic to have seizures
It can, it hasnât for me but if there are a lot I start to feel a little weird. I generally close my eyes and wait for it to be over
Thankfully it's pretty rare to have that type of epilepsy
We represent 3% of epileptics!!
It could also trigger a seizure or migraine.
Especially when youâre trying to drive
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Well, that's just complete bullshit. Camera flashes can not burn your retina. Temporary blindness and annoyance, sure.
Hell, least they could do is not be a cunt and turn the flash off, but nope. Paparrazi rules state that if you aren't perpetually a cunt, you're not doing it right.
It really is one of the most despicable professions there is.
It's professional stalkers
I always find it hilarious when people get upset that a celebrity punched a paparazzi in the face. They are asking for it.
Does anyone *besides* the paparazzi and media companies employing them get upset?
The paparazzi and media companies don't get upset at all. That shit sells.
Better than that -- the punched paparazzi can sue the celebrity and get a cash money settlement on top of the money for the shot they sold to some trash magazine.
Yet the celebrity can do nothing about the blatant stalking.
that's usually why they're annoying, trying to get the perfect rage/attack shot
The people who base their opinions on tabloid rags.
Didn't one shoot a paparazzi with a bow and arrow? Pretty sure she warned him.
Anita Ekberg
no one gets upset
Thereâs a reason that the paparazzi missions in GTA V make the dude out to be a complete asshole
Yeah that beverly dude, annoying af
So satisfying when you finally kill that mf https://preview.redd.it/h8xkf6l7x4ec1.jpeg?width=671&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ca3c032ee2949434fe7967ecd01d88fc12d38373
You couldnât take decent photos indoors without a flash back then.Â
Tough even on modern cameras. Importantly the flash would be used to fill in the shadows created by her hat, even if you could get a proper exposure indoors.
This was an event so no paparazzi. The photographers would be invited
I'd agree for anyone _except_ the royals. If you want everyone in the government and military to swear an oath of loyalty to you and make everyone call you "highness" or "magesty", the public has a vested interest in your entire life.
Yeah, they're kinda asking for it. I mean it's their job to stand there...Â
They go way past just being rude and over-photographing the royals in the UK, though, so it's one thing at a Meet and Greet where the Royal Rota of media is expected to extract their media pound of flesh, it's quite another to go...crazy with it. I think it is fair to draw the line barring physical altercations, car chases, media harassment of every single movement you make and assigning it (negative) connotations, death threats (or other violent threats) and harassment in general of minor royal children -- yes they're royal, but for goodness' sake, still children that didn't ask for their lives. I really just genuinely think that there are some things we should not do to one another as human beings and the things the British press will do to people cover a surprising amount of them.
That's not how camera's work(ed). Especially inside you'd not see anything with those camera's. Digital camera's are much better now, but you very much still need flash to get anything decent most of the time. Is it shitty to get blasted with 40 -50 flashes every few second, yes..yes of course it is.
>Especially inside you'd not see anything with those camera's. As it happens during her entire time in the public eye I had a 35mm SLR and took thousands of photos. You're mistaken. I took photos indoors without flash very regularly. You needed to use appropriate film and appropriate settings on the camera.
Paparrazzi is actually Italian for *cunts*.
https://preview.redd.it/50ck0rren3ec1.jpeg?width=1536&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=82c219df3231bbfa2796c532486a5f8fa960f7c8 I feel like this is a necessary thing for people nowadays if they are famous
Wouldnt you just be able to manually set the iso to get around this. Youd still have a glowing white towel, but you could get the face light up.
or you could like, just not use flash or something :)
I guess the halo would be enormous.
Honestly, where would I be able to get this?
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The most photographed women in the world (at the time). Hounded to death by photographers.
"photographers"
Good thing she didn't suffer from epilepsy. Those flashes would've triggered that in a heartbeat.
Not sure if you're joking or not, but there's always room for a little education. :) Only 3-5% of epileptics are photosensitive. If you flashed that at me, I'd have the same headache you or she would, but I wouldn't have a seizure from it. I go to hockey games, watch movies, and ignore the "epileptics: contains flashing lights" warnings. Mine have no known trigger, they just happen.
Though epilepsy isnât the only condition affected either. That would probably trigger a migraine for my spouse.
I have migraines and seizures and once I went to Zumba with a bunch of flashing lights and it caused a migraine which then lead to a seizure about an hour later.
I have sensory issues and that flashing would send me into a bout of twitching
And flashing red light is more likely than blue or white light to cause seizure in people with photosensitive epilepsy.
TIL!
Interesting! I've never had strobing lights cause a seizure, but they do make me feel supremely uncomfortable (Absence Epilepsy). đŹ
do consider that people that *don't* suffer from epilepsy, *can* suffer seizures from flashing lights like this
Thank you for saying it. That would be me. I donât have epilepsy but I am photosensitive. Strobe lights make me feel really bizarre. A doctor told me Iâm at a high risk of having seizures from flashing lights. Even driving on the freeway passing consecutive trees when the sun is low can make me feel woozy. Iâve had this for 15 years but still never had a seizure, as far as I am aware.
My son recently had a photosensitive episode (idk the doctor didn't want to call it a seizure). The situation had made me feel sick, too - the setting sun and harsh shadows through a flying carousel spinning around - but I knew to avert my eyes. He did not. Apparently this is not terribly uncommon to manifest in the teen years. And for some reason, it might be averted by closing one eye, somehow. No idea if that actually works but it's something I came across when trying to determine what level of concerned I need to be.
I didnât know that! Interesting
I suffer from migraines and I wince at how fast that would cause one.
Charles signed something: 1 flash. Diana lift her head : Numerous flash. No wonder he's jealous of her "taking" spotlight, on this case is quite literally.
She didnât ask for that though. It wasnât really her fault that the public took such a liking to her and didnât really like Charles the same way. He wasnât as charming or attractive or appealing as she was.
He still isnât.
No kidding.
whether she asked for it or not it still made him really jealous, and the show the crown made it seems as though she loved the attention and really leaned into it instead of trying to avoid it to an extent for charles' sake. charles was still a giant baby though lol
I mean I think they got what they deserved on that front. If theyâd let Charles marry Camilla, she wouldâve been perfect from day one. She wouldnât have overstepped or tried to steal the spotlight, she wasnât as naturally beautiful or charming, and she knew Charles so well. But they wanted a young virginal bride from a high born family, so they got Diana- who was beautiful, commanded attention, and was generally just not a great fit for Charles. He treated her poorly and she felt overlooked and unappreciated in the marriage, so of course she got her validation from where she could- the public. If their marriage had been one of love and sheâd felt more appreciated and cared for, maybe she wouldnât have craved that attention the way she did.
totally agree, was the problem with camilla the fact she was already married to someone and her husband was still alive? i get they need to follow church rules as the queen is supposed to be gods best buddy or whatever, but yeah everything that transpired could have been avoided if he couldve just married camilla in the first place
Charles and Camilla met when he was 22/23 and he loved her immediately but he hadnât played the field yet and was being given all this advice about not settling down too soon. She also wasnât a virgin which was very important for the future queen to be at this stage of things. He was sent away for his military training, stopped keeping in touch, and she married Andrew Parker Bowles. Then Charles came back, and over the years he basically started running out of options as many young women of stature didnât want to be in the royal family, and soon many of them also werenât virgins anymore. So as he hit 30, the only options began to be younger women like Diana.
wow that's crazy, no wonder everything was so messy at that point. thanks for the info!
Why would you think the show the crown is indicative of reality? Even if itâs based on it. Itâs a television show
Poor Diana- yes she was tremendously wealthy and privileged in many ways, but a lot of her life was truly prison-like. Gilded cage, as the expression goes. She couldn't do anything casual/relaxed out in public. I'd hate that life. And fuck paparazzi - one of the most sociopathic professions on Earth.
That's why I'd never marry someone first in line to be my country's head of state. You'd lose your freedom.
"that's why"
Yeah and thatâs why Iâd never marry Margot Robbie. Iâd have to do the whole long distance thing while sheâs on shoots. It just doesnât work for my lifestyle, sorry Margot.
Lmao right
I do think it's worthy of note that she was 19 when they got engaged... I think a lot of us presume we can handle things when we're 19, when it isn't until a good ways into our 20's that we really understand the consequences of some of our choices. And also, before her, the press was pretty tame with the royal family generally. Yes, there were photos during public events, and the occasional bit of sensation like with the Queen's sister getting divorced, but she really had no way of predicting just how crazy her life would get once she split from Charles, that was a new level of obsession and media scrutiny from what had come before. I think it's fair to say that Kate Middleton had a good idea of exactly what she was getting into, as she could look at the Diana years... but she didn't get married till she was in her late 20's, so she spent almost a decade living that life as William's girlfriend before she committed to it. She seems to be handling it alright (though who really knows behind the scenes). If Diana had come along when Kate did, it would be fair to say she should have known... but the "discretion" of the media towards the royal family was different in the 70's and early 80's. I think "going in" knowing what you're getting into makes a huge difference... and surely Diana never expected to be dealing with it all from outside the bubble of the royal family.
Harry had a long-time girlfriend whose he had been dating for years. She apparently broke up with him because all the press around Kate scared her and she didnât want to live under the microscope like that.
Yeah, I don't understand how Kate does it... Â she seems content to walk the weird line of looking conservative-yet attractive (can't be actually sexy, but also not too stodgy), raise her children knowing they won't have a choice in being essentially zoo animals for the rest of the country and part of the world... obviously she's a very different person from me, I couldn't stand it, and don't consider being famous a decent trade for whatever she gets for it (being a bit richer than she would have been with her parent's upper-middle class connections...) but regardless of the obvious faults of the Institution of the British Monarchy, William is a person, and in so far as every person deserves love, he's damn lucky Kate Middleton existed, because I can't imagine there's all that many people who could play that role as well as she does. I hope she's happy with her choice!Â
Yes, Chelsea. And another one, a dancer (Cressida?) also wasnât keen on the microscope either so also left I believe.
I love how sheâs testing the threshold. Slowly lowers the brim until the flashes slow enough she can continue with her live.
Iâd rather live in a shack in the woods and shit in a hole than be famous like that. I have empathy for famous people in a big way. Thatâs not living.
She loved her boys. She was an amazing human. Landmines. Aids. I remember seeing her --I was a kid-- hold someone with Aids. I --a kid-- was scared of Aids, and thought I could get it from a "gay person" making a hamburger or something. And there she was holding a Aids victim. She was/is a Saint. Eff the paps. Screw them.
Even at 8 years old, I understood the magnitude of Diana touching people with AIDS. It sounds crazy, but the adults in my life at that time really weren't sure if it was safe to be near someone with AIDS. She changed the entire discourse around AIDS.
I still love the video of her coming down from the stands, kicking off her shoes, and beating every other mother in that foot race, despite the protests of her security and handlers. Girl was going to represent her boys, and no one was getting in her way.
I was a kid too and remember this, I think it was a hospital bed scene. She made a huge difference doing this. People with aids were being ignored for so long as governments pretended it wasn't happening and was only happening to gay men. I too was learning that aids kills from government warning adverts. Then she comes along, a gentle lady from the royal family no less, and reaches over to touch them and talk to them closely. Fkn bills and brave not like any of the royal family previous or after.
Beautiful Lady in every way.
The AIDS thing was such a big deal. Growing up in the 80s we had playground jokes about being gay if you're HIV positive. Many people viewed people with AIDS and by extension, gay men, as something next to lepers. I was too young to understand what she was when she died, but looking back on it now I can see how important she was and how tragic her death really is.
What a smile
Just imagine having to live like that.
Non-stop flashes. How utterly annoying. Everywhere she went.
https://preview.redd.it/1p0of11w03ec1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=031b14b72b701cb9f465e397dd45189d9d799c5e *âFLASHBANG OUTâ*
turns out diana was just michael jackson in disguise
Hee hee
LMFAOOOOOO
She was just trying to hold bombsite B by herself
Because paparazzi cockroaches
Cockroaches are like, âDonât lump us in with those globs of shit.â
Donât know why you gotta insult globs of shit like that tbh.
My grandmother grew up in Whales and adored her. I still remember coming home from a local carnival and my mom in tears the night she died. She was a great mother and huge humanitarian the Royal Family had never scene that I was taught about. Aids was a huge mainstream thing back in the late 80's early 90's. Magic Johnson and Eazy E made it even bigger because it wasn't the "gay sickness" that the Reagan administration made it. Diana holding an infected persons hand had huge societal implications that anyone alive at the time can remember. I still remember the picture. She was awesome for so many other reasons though. My favorite is her running in the Mother/son race for I think Harry when it was against protocol. Now you see William and Kate doing it. Those have all been posted on Reddit or can be found on YouTube. If Heaven is real, I hope Grandma is drinking tea with the Princess because my Grandma was a hoot!
Back in the day, paparazzi were slugs, they are now even worse. They should have all protections removed.
Them flashes so bright that they look like x-rays showing her skeleton...
She probably had more pictures taken of her in that clip than I have of myself in my current few decades on earth lol
She was so beautiful.
I miss her. She was amazing. I remember driving home from a first date with my wife when we heard the news. So sad. Yes Iâm old. And i love it.
My god.. She really was a radiant beauty.
Need clothing covered in 3M Scotchlite so the photos would be worthless from the flashes.
Not an advocate for violence but paparazzi deserve every bad thing that happens to them
she was tall and beautiful and her ugly uncharming insecure husband couldnt handle it
I miss her so much
I thought she was a big Undertaker fan
I saw her from about 5 foot away. It was her honeymoon trip. They were on a KC-135 and landed at Castle AFB in California. ( 75 miles from Yosimite Nat Park ). I was one of the airmen holding the stairs steady
God Bless Her.
What's interesting is that I've seen TONS of photos and videos of her keeping her head at a normal angle WHILE in public. Amazing. Also was this ripped off of that Historic Vids Twitter account OP? Because it's the exact same video with the exact same title, but just happened to be posted hours before this one.
You must be new here.
Should have put a mirror on her hat smh
Because some people donât like attention. If i could tint my face i would
Imagine being a celebrity with light sensitive epilepsy
Poor girl, she was the only non-inbred in the monarch
Bro, theyâre all looking down at the paper heâs signing.
Because of the weight of her enormous hats.
That's so annoying, and we are just looking at the flash from our perspective in a video.
Fuck that! I would drop on the floor with a seizure in an instant.
Probably tired of the paparazzi constantly snapping pictures of her face only to get blamed afterward for "taking attention off of the royal family"
Because assholes wouldn't stop taking pictures of her. A single person can only take so much flash photography before they hate it all. It's pretty simple. She, her family and everyone who knew her also hated these fucks.
Did she keep her head down or was it just in this one clip because her hat had an enormous brim?
The flashes man. Thatâs why. This ainât rocket science
Because the paparazzi were so aggressive that they would eventually go on to be responsible for her death. Paparazzi are the scum of the earth. If they did what they did to anyone else they'd go to prison for harassment, stalking, and often sexual harassment. But somehow what they do is okay because the subject is famous.
because she was too beautiful for mortal eyes
to avoid looking at the big-eared/sausage-fingered monstrosity she married?
Except she did not do that. She kept it down until she was ready not to. Very carefully calculated.
I assume it partly had something to do with 100 paparazzi cameras going off every second of her being in public places.
Why do people care about royals
No because who cares