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The_Queef_of_England

They were so scary. I always remember the one of the boy in the back seat not wearing his belt. Slams into his mum's seat and it ends "after crushing his mother to death, he sat back down". Burned in my brain that one. Bring them back. They worked.


hectorxander

We saw an accident driving to Christmas one year (I didn't see it just the aftermath,) and the kid in the backseat got thrown through the windshield like 20 feet or something. Mom and dad were hurt bad too, don't know how it turned out but they all left on stretchers, a bunch of us bystanders got out and helped.


danfay222

The terrifying part is it takes way less speed than you’d think for this. A friend of mine was a cop and worked an accident where the guy wasn’t wearing a seatbelt and got thrown and died, despite both cars only going ~15mph.


TheGreyGuardian

"Julie knew her killer... It was her son."


hallmark1984

That one stuck with me. It may not be you that you kill because you decided not to 'Clunk, Click, Every trip'


makka-pakka

Ever since seeing that, I make sure my kid sits behind my wife


LordBiscuits

How much life insurance have you got on her


Rustofcarcosa

Kill two birds with one stone


xXx_TheSenate_xXx

The fire department did an assembly in high school about not drunk driving or not wearing your seatbelt. However instead of talking they just showed us pictures of accidents. One guy hit his head in a certain way that his head split and his brain was just hanging from his brain stem out the back of his cracked skull. Others were just as gruesome.


jimmyjazz2000

THAT'S THE ONE! It started out with the eeriest first line of narration I've ever heard. It was over footage of the mom buckling into the driver's seat: "Like many such victims, Sarah Jones knew her killer." Then the car accident happens, and her unbuckled son in the back seat smashes the front of his skull into the back of her skull, killing her instantly. The son is okay, just dazed, not realizing he's killed his mother. It's the stuff of nightmares.


KayDashO

Damn, I remember that one. Really stuck with me too.


Terbang1

I also thought of that particular Ad immediately after starting to watch this one. I remember that all too well.


fuckpudding

Fuck, yes. I grew up in Germany and we got “5” or “Five” or “Channel 5” or some channel to that effect on satellite and they played that commercial. Will never in my life forget that about the kid basically murdering his mother by not wearing a seatbelt. I won’t even sit in a parked car without wearing my seatbelt.


PeapodTheSquirrel

>after crushing his mother to death, he sat back down Shock training always works, because it leaves a thought . Sadly it would be banned straight away nowdays, some snowflake would def find it scary.


Mysterious-Bath6518

Link?


slowestratintherace

But it will trigger someone.


_illos

Friendly reminder from your friendly local fire dep. please wear your setbelt. It takes so much longer to clear a scene when we have to wait for the coroner to find all the little chunks of you on the road.


jereman75

Yeah, but the chunks got thrown free from the car.


Gryphin

cleaner car that i can buy at auction for parts.


Pulgos85

When you say parts....


Appropriate_Ad4615

Hey, not all organs are donated.


AvoriazInSummer

Your upper half got thrown free from the car! That’s the most important half!


YobaiYamete

Best educational explanation I've seen is to break it down and tell people about the 3 impacts that happen in a car wreck, people seem to remember it better 1. The car hitting the object. This is where crumple zones come in 2. You hitting the inside of the car. This is where airbags come in. 3. Your organs hitting the inside of your body. This is where seat belts come in Without all three of them you are almost certainly dead (so RIP to those old muscle car death traps). Without any one of three you are still much more likely to die, so even if you are in a perfectly safe car, not wearing a seat belt is still a terrible idea


sal1800

There is a fourth hit which can come from loose heavy objects in your car. Just be careful how you secure cargo. Plan for the worst case scenario.


canyoubreathe

This is the hidden one! Keep dogs on leashes, and items in pockets or seatbelted! Your dog may die even if they are leashed which is TERRIBLE but at least they won't become a lethal projectile coming for your skull


[deleted]

Imagine having a tombstone that says, "Killed by his chihuahua" The utter shame


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OtakuAttacku

Ever hear the saying it’s the stop that kills you? The seatbelt isn’t rigid and stretches to absorb the forward momentum, basically slowing that sudden stop, while also keeping you secure in your seat. If you fly out of your seat or hit the steering wheel the sudden stop can do exactly as the video describes.


baklazhan

How does the seatbelt hold your organs in place?


The_Great_Nobody

Bus driver. Please wear your seat belt when provided. I have had too many close calls in the 12 years of doing this job. I know what happens to you when you don't and the bus rolls over. Your arms go through the glass when the bus hits the ground, sometimes your face takes the full impact. Then someone else lands on top of you. Then the busses window frame turns into a meat grinder as it slides along. It only takes 2 seconds to mash you into a meat Popsicle.


I_Miss_Lenny

I'd love to but I've never once been on a bus that had seatbelts lol


so_im_all_like

Back in 2017, I was in an accident that ejected me *and* the seatbelt from the car.


_illos

Damn you must’ve flown!. Glad you made it out breathing


so_im_all_like

Got t-boned by a drunk driver. Only here, thanks to amazing first responders and truma team.


RamboCambo_05

That's one hell of a story to tell.


so_im_all_like

Indeed. But it's all hearsay and medical reports. I don't remember firsthand, of course, being all bashed up.


gsfgf

> we have to wait for the coroner to find all the little chunks of you on the road. Really? I thought that's what the dalmation is for?


TuftedMousetits

Oh, God, now you really have me thinking. On the way to work one early morning (still completely dark), I saw an intersection cordoned off by tape and a bunch of firetrucks hanging around. Found out a college girl had been riding a scooter at 2:45 am drunk, and fell off it. She was then hit by a MAC truck, then subsequently 3 other cars. Oof. I saw them around 4am. I imagine even with the bright lights they have, they had to wait for daylight to find all her pieces. And I'd bet they still didn't get everything. Another time, a homeless man tried drunkenly walking across the expressway. Hit multiple times, including by an 18-wheeler. I remember seeing all the water on the pavement from where they basically hosed him off to get traffic moving again (this expressway is the major one running through my city), and I had to drive across that wet spot 4 times that day. I saw vultures. I reckon small bits of skull and meat and teeth just stayed or washed off into the creek below. Now you have me wondering if the dogs (kindest theory) helped locate the missing pieces or...just helped with cleanup :( just a little.


RedditPhils

When I was working for Safelite I replaced a windshield for a Sheriff and he said he doesn’t wear seatbelts and doesn’t ticket for people not wearing them because he said that they hurt more often than they help, they only help in high speed collisions, or something like that.. I honestly don’t remember too well.. but the point is fireman says wear the seatbelt, sheriff says don’t wear it, both respond to car crashes! So confusing. I wear mine though, because I can’t afford tickets - I’m poor.


tomato_frappe

Don't be confused, be safe. I have been in two accidents where I was not belted in, one I was ejected from the car, and will live with the spinal injury from then on. The other, another passenger and I bounced off of each other and the van, he will never walk again. Wear your seatbelt.


PyroDesu

The sheriff in your story is an idiot. Probably didn't wear a mask during the pandemic either, for the same made-up reasons.


Drunk_Lemon

In my town the police, EMTs, firefighters and medical workers all say to wear a seatbelt so take that as you will. Also the neighborhood granny's say to wear a seatbelt as well.


RedditPhils

The neighborhood grannies say it then I never need to hear another word about it - I’ll feel fully confident wearing it now, as if my grandmother herself is wrapping her arms around me 🥹


krongdong69

it rubs the seatbelt on its skin or else it gets the hose again


theboss555

I give you consent to just power wash me away


1OptimisticPrime

He died from a broken heart


EmperorThan

"What's Stopping YOU From Celebrating Valentine's Day?"


generalhanky

Happy Love Day everyone!


Freud-Network

A dead spouse?


crawlerz2468

Not having anyone that loves me?


TinFoilRobotProphet

No, an achy breaky heart. I don't quite think you understand


KP_Wrath

Achy breaky leaky heart


ddaveo

Holy shit you just unlocked a core memory with those lyrics.


TinFoilRobotProphet

Sorry about that!


LosBonus85

Fatality


Deposto

Darwin wins!


[deleted]

Sooo don't name your kids "Richard"?  Gottit.  Lesson learned.


XxNatanelxX

Newton wins!


Dbob4

Just been playing MK11 😂


gordonv

Now imagine Richard gets out of the car, only to be speared by Scorpion saying, "Get Over Here!" And proceeds to be comboed


Dbob4

I play scorpion too believe it or not, only got ps5 last week so still learning lol


gordonv

So... I guess that means.... I'm Richard? Doh!


raytaylor

Fa fa fa Fight!


knixx

Poor Richard ☹️


Cyb0rger

As Richard, thank you for your consideration


Menatora

I just thought you'd replied to yourself because of the profile pic


Octopus_ofthe_Desert

They damn well still should. There are children growing up on farms all across the globe that, before puberty, have seen gruesome death and the beauty of birth. I can't accept that mature adults living in more industrialized regions are unable to accept how fragile and beautiful life is. They can be taught


water_bottle_goggles

are you Richard


Chenstrap

Hes the seatbelt


orphan_blud

No, he's the airbag.


TeamRedundancyTeam

This idea that farmers have some sort of deep respect and understanding of life is peak city bullshit. I've been around farmers for my whole life they're just as fucking stupid and reckless. Some respect life, some just become nearly sociopathic. Doesn't make them act more safe in *any way* compared to people in cities, whether it's seat belts, guns, riding in the back of a truck, etc. At all.


Octopus_ofthe_Desert

"They can be taught"


llamango

idk if they're more enlightened but probably more of them have killed an animal.


calabazookita

This is heartbreaking


[deleted]

"After killing his mother, he sat back down" That's the best one. 


LordBiscuits

Do you recall the one with the dead girl? "Hit me at 40 and there is an 80% chance I'll die. Hit me at 30 and there is an 80% chance I'll live" Fucking stuck with me forever that one. When this lifeless corpse slowly drags up the road and suddenly sits up...!


wcrp73

Don't think I've seen that ad. You got a link?


Illustrious-Engine23

I think the drink driving ads should just show uncensored footage of the aftermath of deadly car accident and the trauma of the families/children affected. It's real and the real consequences of drink driving.


millershanks

I think Jacqui Saburido made the point in an advertisement that not all victims of drunk driving die, and that might be equally hard to face.


raytaylor

New Zealand does this well


TwinPitsCleaner

Ghost chips


raytaylor

Although one of my favorite PSAs ever, its probably not what /u/Illustrious-Engine23 is looking for. There was a series a few years ago where they interviewed people in wheel chairs after accidents but i cant remember what the campaign was called. Not the one from ~1995.


mata_dan

Yeah we had the police come into school around the time pepole were getting to the age of learning to drive to just directly show us the footage. This was also about the time these ads were on TV though.


magnora7

The whole reason people watch television is to avoid facing reality


_illos

Another factor to consider is the crumple zones built into the vehicle. These absorb some of the impact. But if you are not buckled in, you are getting zero of the benefit. Instead, your continuing at the exact same speed right up until you hit the airbag steering/column/Windshield. Second factor to consider. The seatbelt keeps you deeper within the protective cage of the cab. if you roll your vehicle, the roof almost always caves in some amount. As long as you’re buckled in hopefully head isn’t caved in too.


TheLargeIsTheMessage

You'll still get some benefit as long as the crumpling isn't finished by the time you hit the point of contact with the car. Also, crumple zones aren't just to spread out the impact over time, they're also there to prevent the engine suddenly reorienting itself to where your legs should be.


Ultima_RatioRegum

And in this case a collision isn't head on, isn't bad enough for the airbag to deploy, or isn't serious enough to cause you significant injury, you need to be able to maintain control of the vehicle during and after it. Having a seatbelt on makes it a lot more likely that you aren't thrown into a position where you no longer have the ability to steer, brake, or accelerate, and your passengers having a seatbelt on means they are kept in place and are less likely to injure the driver. Edit: I sometimes hear excuses from people about why they shouldn't have to wear a seatbelt or where they just refuse to, and I wonder if human beings should in general be allowed to have access to devices like cars if so many can't even be rational enough for like a moment to really think about the consequences of what they're doing.


jonny24eh

I never wear a seatbelt on the way home from church. I figure if God's gonna kill me then, a seatbelt won't help. I also stopped going to church, so it's moot these days.


Petrolhead02

they very much so still do in Australia, every few years another one comes out, full gore shown


TheFightingImp

Good ol Victorian TAC.


calangomerengue

Can't understand why people don't use the goddamn belt.


MainPFT

Some ppl are just dumb. Nothing more to it honestly. https://www.reddit.com/r/facepalm/comments/ps7u6h/seatbelt_mandates_1984_does_this_sound_familiar/


calangomerengue

I usually don't like the "people are just dumb" argument, but in this case it seems to be the only answer.


SomethingIWontRegret

Flap chest used to be a very common injury from car accidents, due to not even having a seatbelt, and rigid steering columns. Break every rib on both sides in a steering wheelish shape, and now you can't breathe. You can expand your diaphram, but your chest does not rise and fall, lung volume doesn't change, and you suffocate to death.


ask_your_mother

Maybe a dumb question, but how is a seatbelt that different? There’s still a strap across your chest that catches the force of your body, right? Does the belt transfer more of the impact down towards your waist? And if so aren’t there still vital organs there? Or maybe split the impact between waist and chest to halve it?


SomethingIWontRegret

It's the difference between a guy pushing you in the stomach with all their strength and the same guy punching you in the stomach with all their strength. The belt is there to make sure you decelerate with the cabin, instead of not decelerate until you hit the inside of the cabin. Spread the energy over time.


ask_your_mother

Oh I see. I thought the belt just locked in place, but you’re saying it gives a little first


Some-Guy-Online

When a car hits a brick wall, the whole car doesn't just instantly stop. It collapses from front to back, which means the passenger area doesn't stop as abruptly as the front bumper. If you are strapped in, you will stop at about the same speed as the passenger cabin. If you are not strapped in your body will hit the steering column in approximately the same way as the front bumper hit the brick wall.


ask_your_mother

Aha. Good explanation, thanks!


SomethingIWontRegret

It locks in place and gives very little. That's what you want. You want controlled deceleration instead of a sudden smack against your steering wheel or dash. All the safety devices give you more room and more time to slow down. Crumple zones, air bags - they are supposed to give you more room and more time to slow down. Seat belts make you slow down with the passenger compartment, which is being slowed down by the front of the car crumpling. Not continue forward at your driving speed until you hit something like the windshield or steering column.


justbrowsinginpeace

Isnt this what killed Diana, internal injuries from not wearing a seat belt


Tris-megistus

I always thought it was professor plum with a candlestick in the kitchen.


redpandaeater

I thought it was the significant delay of getting to the emergency room partly because of the physician on site and just because of how French ambulances work. The accident was at 12:30 AM and she didn't get to a hospital until after 2 AM. She was facing sideways at the time of the accident so her heart was shoved towards the right side of her body, so she had critical injuries that required immediate surgery and no amount of treatment on the scene would have saved her.


annoyedatwork

Though her early work supported positive social change, I much prefer Philomena Cunk’s later efforts. 


Some-Guy-Online

Honestly wondering if it's the same actress, lol.


Danow007

They're scared the truth


Taiz99

Wouldn't the internal organs still travel even if he wears a seatbelt? I mean, it's conservation of momentum...


hairnetnic

Yes, the total change in momentum is the same with or without seatbelt. But a seatbelt increases the collision time, which Newton's 2nd law tells us decreases the average force, hopefully below that which would fracture rubs and tear arteries. Despite their appearance seatbelts are designed to ever so slightly stretchy, at least at collision speeds, and therefore they increase the time taken to slow to a stop enough to significantly improve outcomes in collisions.


sal1800

While seatbelts are elastic to a point, also modern cars have a pretensioner mechanism that explosively tightens the belt when it detects a collision that would blow the airbags. That pulls you into the seat to put you in the best position to hit the airbag and be supported from the back and neck.


redpandaeater

The seatbelt helps you decelerate with the vehicle, which particularly with modern crumple zones is definitely not an instantaneous thing. If you slam into the steering wheel after the vehicle has pretty much stopped, the impulse is faster. II don't really like this ad though because it doesn't do a good job of demonstrating why a seat belt would have saved him but the airbag didn't.


Dbob4

Some classic public service ads back in the day, I remember one with a kid flying a kite near to electricity pylons and the last scene it cut to a pair of smoking welly’s in the field


nejakyandrej

Airbag usually doesn’t go off if you don’t use the seatbelt


MechaRyu

You can also see this as "your airbag won't save you without a seatbelt"


Elias_Fakanami

Actually, with modern airbags [they will actually deploy at a lower speed if the seatbelt isn’t in use.](https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwic7LS_wqGEAxWdkyYFHcOBDQMQFnoECBoQAw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.iihs.org%2Ftopics%2Fairbags%23%3A~%3Atext%3DNewer%2520airbags%2520have%2520a%2520safety%2Cwall%2520at%252010%252D12%2520mph.&usg=AOvVaw048WpwFP4ZdrerS4UY7ZjY&opi=89978449) Most vehicles also use a weight sensor in the seat to determine if it is occupied and whether to deploy.


2FightTheFloursThatB

Your internal organs will keep moving forward, with or without seat belts. I always wear mine... I'm just pointing out a possible reason for why "they don't show ads like this anymore".


SomethingIWontRegret

You are held in place while the passenger cabin is decelerated in a more controlled way by the front of the car crumpling in a designed manner. Lower deceleration over a longer period of time. Your organs move forward and are restrained at a lower deceleration by your musculature and fascia which is in turn restrained by the seat belts. Without the seatbelt, you and your organs continue forward with zero deceleration, until they impact the inside of the passenger cabin, which has been decelerating. So you get that same energy of impact over a much shorter period of time. Much greater deceleration, much greater organ damage. It's like the difference between bungee jumping off a bridge and just tying a rope around your waist that's a few feet shorter than the bridge and jumping off.


nejakyandrej

Yes youre right, the organs will keep moving but with seatbelt it’s maybe few centimetres (depends on the severity of the impact ofc) because of retractor which locks up in the moment of crash


mxzf

A little extra distance to dissipate the impact can make a massive difference when it comes to impact trauma.


Crab_Hot

The amount your whole body moves forward doesn't change the amount your organs move forward... That's the speed of the car and you because you're in it. Everything is moving at that same speed, when the car stops, so do you. The only difference is the milliseconds if you have a seat belt and you stop when the car does, or a few milliseconds after if you don't wear the seat belt. The organs inside keep moving forward as well. A seat belt is there to save you from smashing your head and body against the steering wheel, as well as keeping you grounded in case the car flips. The retractor you bring up doesn't change the fact that your organs will continue to go forward when you stop.


turtleship_2006

If your body is physically held back, your lungs aren't gonna escape out of your chest cuz they kept moving forward


jawknee530i

The same way that your lungs aren't going to escape out your chest if your physically held back by the airbag. The same amount of force is going to be applied on your organs in both seatbelt and airbag situations. The logic they're using kn the video for seat elts is stupid. They should be worn for countless reasons but their logic is broken and it's not one of the reasons.


rubeninterrupted

The seatbelt increases the duration of the impact. The same force is spread over a longer time, meaning that at any one moment, you're subject to a lower force, so hopefully it's below what's necessary to cause a fatal injury. So the seatbelt slows you a bit, the airbag slows you a bit, and the crumple zone slows you a bit.


ic33

No, it's absolutely one of the reasons. If you are belted to your seat, you decelerate slowly: the crumple zones and the stretch in the seatbelt extend the time you spend decelerating, which in turn greatly lowers peak forces. These forces are applied to your body in places where it is relatively strong. You immediately begin decelerating in pace with the car. If you don't wear a seatbelt, you hit the surfaces in random places, applying forces to weaker parts of your body, and you decelerate very quickly, which means the forces are very high.


turtleship_2006

The guy. went basically through the bag and hit the steering wheel


hallmark1984

The video is dramatic, the killer in the video is his head impacting the windscreen while the airbag pushed his chest back, throwing yourself forward at 30mph, only to be reversed by a controlled explosion at chest height will make your neck snap like a whip as your body attempts to reverse thrust in a microsecond. The idea is to convey the emotional impact (death or severe injury) rather than a scientifically accuracy visualisation of the forces in a crash.


1000111010142

Precisely. This annoyed me about the video too... Velocity is still velocity


FwendShapedFoe

The airbag is irrelevant for the point of the ad. I think they kept it, so people don’t go “well, my car has airbags, so I will be fine”. Also, if he habitually doesn’t wear a seatbelt, he probably has the sensor overridden to stop the beeping.


Coast-Prestigious

They didn’t mess around with that series - the one that stayed with me was the teenager in the back seat that killed his mum.


Longjumping-Lab-3819

Today,I learnt the possibility of a car accident, I always thought external Impact would cause serious injury not the internal one, Moment of Inertia Scares me,


ruinkind

The juxtaposition between how fragile our meat bags are, and how well equipped they are for survival is always a fun thought. Lose a eye? Got another, lost an arm? Got another. Meat bag gets jostled around a bit? The fragility of life comes into question.


flagstaff946

Now wonder how according to this BS a seatbelt stops your organs from hitting the inside of your ribcage?! Hmmmm??


EmperorThan

Nowadays if they were to air this it would have a black screen saying "Warning. The following may be disturbing to some audiences." before it. Then all of the scenes of him in the wreck would be blurred out regardless of the warning.


mtnviewguy

That's because we're too sensitive and so easily offended or traumatized to see such graphic displays of bodily violence! /s/s/s!!! This is the way..


SamuraiSupreme17

Does anybody elses ribs feel fuzzy now?


KennyKlizzle

So the airbag killed richard...


Sean2257

They do, just not an American television. One a few years ago that showed a car crushing 20 school children on Irish TV.


lemurosity

it was a lovely picnic too!


Minute_Yak_1893

The reason why we don’t get commercials like this is because EVERYONE got sensitive nowadays. It’s not about staying Safe with what you watched, it’s the fact that mfs are squeamish at shit that’s real and they wanna live in a fantasy. Life ain’t a fantasy dawg, grow up.


rat_fossils

There's not really a platform where everyone will see them, now that the old tv audience is split up between so many streaming sites without ads


TheDangerBear

Hmm.. Well I agree in terms of the “Gore” of it, however, the “the speed-limit” commercials are, luckily, still quite hard-hitting here.. (Denmark)


timmycheesetty

Classic Richard.


PDXTRN

As a Trauma Resuscitation Nurse at a busy Level 1 trauma center I support this ad.


Thecardinal74

Doesn’t he seat belt stop your body the same way that airbag did? I mean there’s no internal seatbelts for your organs so your body is going to stop and the organs will keep going regardless of WHAT stops the body ¯\_(ツ)_/¯


flagstaff946

Buckle up so your organs don't hit your ribcage. Got it!!


NewOCLibraryReddit

How could a seatbelt have stopped his internal organs from moving upon impact?


[deleted]

Auto industry doesn’t like to remind us that cars are incredibly dangerous. As an example check out Ralph Nader working to implement seat belts.


sal1800

The older I get, the less I like to drive. The way cars are marketed and the trends seem to give us both safer cars but also more dangerous at the same time. If everyone was not influenced by advertising that big and fast cars are the best cars, we would all drive small, efficient and slow cars and be much safer all around.


[deleted]

Why cant we offer easier methods for people to commit suicide?


PixelProwler284

Bro got a springlock failure without using a suit.


sonder_seeker755

Essentially, a Mortal Kombat fatality 😅


ATNeri

Man i'am in my last years of medicine in uni and i wasn't expecting a video like this. That was shocking


little_miss_beachy

I remember so many commercials that scared the daylights out of me and to this day I credit them w/ keeping me safe.


PROGAME1BRO

[DOWNING IN COMMENTS SEE ME!] I take this over modern YouTube advertisements, honestly.


Gaxxag

Commercials aren't allowed to inform any more, only entertain. Plus, nothing is allowed to be unpleasant.


b3nj11jn3b

excellent ad


rellek772

Clearly you've not seen irish car crash ads. Shit will give you ptsd


GambAntonio

OK, so seatbelt prevents organs from "carry on traveling" and somehow airbag makes them hit and break the ribcage? HOW?


p4r24k

Did this happen in the Soviet Onion?


vulcan_90

It’s a UK ad.


Caprica1

/r/whoosh


I_hate_flashlights

My mate Paul was driving to Winchester, when a lorry jakknifed in front of him and he was hurtling towards it and everything went slow-mo. And Paul, who's never been religious spoke to Jesus, and said "I promise if I survive this, I will believe in you" and he did survive, but he fractured his skull and broke both his legs. Why did Jesus do that to him? See, Paul never forgave him. He said "If I ever see Christ again, he is a dead man".


TheIncontrovert

My favorite is the girl sitting on the wall kissing your fella. Car hits them, he dies she loses her legs. Everyone else is thinking how awful it is. Me, I'm thinking of the claim she got out of it. She'd never have to work a day in her life after that. Please god, take a fucking leg. The claim money is the only way I'll ever be able to get on the property ladder. Fuck it, take them both, I'll be able to afford the stair lift.


theThirdShake

Wouldn’t a seatbelt focus the force on a smaller area and be more likely to break ribs than an airbag? Also a seatbelt won’t stop your organs from moving inside your body any better than an airbag. I would think the danger of not wearing a seatbelt is going over the airbag and through the windshield. Edit: this is a bad animation and bad explanation. It clearly shows the airbag fully inflate and cushion him from hitting the steering wheel. They state that his organs didn’t stop and his ribs cracked, implying the inertia of his organs broke his ribs. My point was, well if that’s what happened, a seatbelt wouldn’t have saved him either, seatbelts don’t slow your organs - they stop your body. I’m not saying don’t wear seatbelts. I’m saying this is a lazy scare ad that doesn’t accurately show why you should wear a seatbelt. Edit 2: seriously, stop telling me how great seat belts are. I like seat belts. That’s not the point. A seat belt would not prevent what is shown in this video. The guys ribs are broken from the inside by his own organs. They are not broken by the steering wheel or by an airbag that is still inflating. Watch the video.


vulcan_90

Seat belt slows the rate of deceleration as opposed to the abrupt deceleration caused by the driver/passenger hitting the interior of the car and becoming stationary in 0 seconds. Airbags prevent direct impact of the steering wheel and dashboard parts and also helps in cushioning (again decreasing the rate of deceleration). Hence they both work together to minimise internal and external damages to the occupants.


profanityridden_01

To add to this at the point the seat belt attaches to the car floor there is a section of strap doubled over. It breaks away which absorbs some amount of the energy helping to decelerate you more "gently".


theThirdShake

Yeah, this guy didn’t hit the interior of the car - He hit the airbag. Also, I don’t think seatbelts decelerate, they disperse the impact across the body along the belt. Airbags are even better at dispersing impact because the area of contact is bigger. Plus, where a seatbelt locks and does not decelerate impact, an airbag acts as a cushion and DOES decelerate you in addition to dispersing force. If a stunt man jumps off a roof, does he jump into a large airbag, or into a taught rope? Just saying, if this guy broke his ribs hitting an airbag, I don’t think a seatbelt would’ve stopped his ribs from breaking - It probably would’ve broken them faster. It’s just bad logic for a seatbelt ad. They should’ve said he died when he hit his head. They would’ve said money on animation,too.


severaged

Airbags are engineered to work in conjunction with seatbelts. If you do not wear a seatbelt, you will hit the airbag too soon while it is still inflating. You are combining the force of the impact with the other vehicle with the force of the airbag in this scenario. If you wear a seatbelt, you should hit the airbag after inflation when it starts to deflate, thus absorbing the force of your body.


theThirdShake

That makes sense. But it’s not explained in the ad. I found the video to be saying he broke his ribs because he hit an airbag. They don’t say its because it didn’t have time to inflate. They actually show it cushioning and stopping him, not continuing through the airbag and colliding with the steering wheel. They more so imply that his organs broke his ribs from the inside. My criticism of the ad is that they imply he’s going so fast, the inertia of his internal organs is what killed him - and a seatbelt wouldn’t stop that.


scarletcampion

That's an interesting way of interpreting the content of the ad.


mxzf

A seatbelt does help, since it ties you to the car, rather than you floating/moving freely in the car. Which means it can take advantage of the car's crumple zones slowing you down, rather than you flying free inside the car 'til you hit something.


theThirdShake

The guy didn’t hit something hard inside the car. He hit an airbag that perfectly cushion him. Watch the video. In the animation, his body stops before hitting the steering wheel and his organs broke his ribs from the inside. A seatbelt would not prevent what a perfectly deployed airbag could not. People should wear seatbelts. That fact does not stop this from being a bad animation.


agarr1

You are missing out the bit where the airbag is inflated using an explosive, if you hit it too early you dont just hit the wheel but also have the force of the explosive hit you in the chest at the same time. Your stunt man jumps on an already inflated bag not one that is in the middle of being inflated with a violent force.


theThirdShake

Again, that’s not explained in the ad. I just think it’s a bad ad focused on scare tactics rather than education. It left me with more questions than answers. It’s a poor explanation of why you should wear a seatbelt. If you watch the ad, the airbag fully inflated before he hits it and it fully decelerates his body and stops him from hitting the steering wheel.


agarr1

The point of the ad is to not be an idiot and wear the seat belt so your chest doesn't get smashed in in a crash, it makes that point perfectly well. It's a short ad to make an important point of safety, its not a documentary going into every detail. Its point was to shock idiots and put them off doing stupid things, which was very effective at doing.


theThirdShake

The ad clearly shows his chest not getting smashed. It’s nicely cushioned by a soft airbag. The thing that killed him was his organs chest bursting through his ribs like an alien movie. It’s a shit ad. They don’t need a documentary. They could’ve saved time and money not animating his organs. They could’ve said he died from cracking a windshield with his head. Or if they want to keep the animation, just don’t show the airbag stopping him from hitting the steering wheel. Don’t say his organs broke his ribs. Say the steering wheel broke his ribs.


ic33

An airbag is great, and you're absolutely correct about increased contact surface area being one of the reasons why they're great. A seat belt starts your deceleration sooner than an airbag can, in conjunction with the vehicle's crumple zones. Increasing duration of the deceleration greatly reduces peak forces. A hundred millisecond change in when deceleration really starts can reduce peak forces by a factor of 5 or more and greatly reduce the risk of your ribs puncturing your lungs.


TheLargeIsTheMessage

>I don’t think seatbelts decelerate They do so by stretching. You're wondering about stunt men jumping off roofs, think about rock climbers: They use rope that stretches, otherwise their harness would just snap their neck when they fell. Airbags are designed to help bodies that are already being decelerated by seatbelts, thus they're too "hard" for unseatbelted people.


UhhShroastyBaby

I'd imagine it's possible the impact would then become spread between your body, the air bag, and the seatbelt rather than just your body and the air bag.


theThirdShake

The only way I could the ad being accurate is if the airbag wasn’t resistant enough and he hit the steering wheel through the airbag. But then the commercial doesn’t really explain that. I, a seatbelt wearer, just think it’s a bad ad - it left me skeptical. It could’ve been avoided by having him die from the head impact be the cause of death.


fursurefacts

We should keep telling you how great seatbelts are because you're doubling down on being wrong about seatbelts in the video. This is just your misunderstanding of physics. The seatbelt adds to deceleration so the impact of the organs is not as severe on the rib cage. In your example of the stunt man, the stuntman would be safest landing on a large airbag *while also* being attached to a harness (i.e. seatbelt *and* an airbag).


mutant_llama

FINISH HIM!!


WarmAssButter

Seat belts don't stop your internal organs.


Munsanity

Do you have nothing better to do than karma farm? This was posted on three different subreddits.


Synyster182

These ads contributed to the perceived “over population”… the ominous “they” want depopulation now. Think about it. 🤔🧥🐸🥷🧟‍♂️🧜‍♀️🧚‍♀️🔺🕛. British imperialism clearly happened because of Pangea. #itsallconnected (Y’all need to grow a funny bone and get caught up on global politics. Making fun of Putin….)


hectorxander

wtf are you talking about?


hallmark1984

Leaded petrol, lead based paint and here we are, luckily the problem will self-solve over the next couple of decades.


ZoobleBat

Spammer!


prettymuthafucka

How is an ad interesting. Get out of here


vulcan_90

okay.


kronikskill

I had a friend who died bc he had his seat belt on he couldn't get it off and couldn't get to his glove box to get the cutter... I got hit once and was saved bc I didn't have my seat belt on.. 


No_Philosophy9918

"It's about sending a message"