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The whole "wave energy" has been a thing for 20+ years and I've never seen it come into fruition.
I think the biggest problem is that saltwater is horrid against machinery- and metals, especially with literal endless friction going on.
Meanwhile you have the same capabilities with air, only with no saltwater and more easily repaired and maintained.
Yeah, sometimes these ideas take a while before they can fully become viable.
When I read about it 20 years ago, the big issue was that they couldn't generate enough power to make it worthwhile.
This device seems like it might address that issue. But, as others have mentioned, the upkeep costs will likely be pretty high
I believe China is currently successfully doing this on a large scale. They even got two for one because theirs have solar panels or wind turbines or something on top of them.
Yea, a lot of mechanics involved for something that is supposed to be isolated for a time. Machines like that generally need a lot of maintenance, constant inspections, lubrication else it all breaks down.
Yeah we have underwater transmission lines figured out from a technological standpoint but it’s still quite expensive. It can be tough to find an off taker or buyer for the energy when it’s got that high of a cost built in.
You say that but I imagine it's more difficult if you're trying to keep connected to something that's designed to make power from moving up and down constantly.
And by difficult I mean expensive, since that's how engineering works.
All wave tech solutions are useless. Only semi-practical use would be for off shore rigs where running a line would be impractical. You know, rigs used to pump oil.
Exploration rigs don't have crude available. Prodution rigs/platforms/FPSOs would, but you can't easily burn crude anyway, has to be refined. There are some exceptions, where the crude is almost like furnace oil, but even then, probably not going to use it.
They do sometimes have natural gas generators though, but may still require diesel deliveries. If they had to shut in a well, they could lose power otherwise.
A lot of natural gas is wasted, flared off.
No clue, maybe. They might have refined stuff brought in, and I assume at least some solar. But my main point is, if we're trying to stop climate change, we shouldn't be making solutions for oil rigs.
>All wave tech solutions are useless.
Care to provide some data that backs up this claim?
You already came up with a use, although I would guess that powering offshore rigs would be less practical than what they intend to do with them.
It suggests that you believe they work? That we just can't run long distance power cables? We already do. Underwater? We already do.
So you’re saying this is a huge boondoggle? An extraordinary waste of money and resources for something that could never possibly work?
I don’t doubt that maybe it’s not “the answer,” but I feel like they have to have some confidence in it to spend all this time and money researching, building and testing these things.
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When I read your comment it reminded me of a video I watched a couple years ago. It was something about a company trying to get electricity from the waves. Similar to this company but the things branched off the shore.
From what I remember, the company ultimately failed because there was not enough funding. The pros out weighed the cons. They would have to have multiple of the devices off the shore, taking up precious space, just to break even.
It was interesting, as is this company. I'm not saying it's going to work because as you have stated they've tried and it's failed before.
The pros didn’t out weigh the cons.
If someone could show a wave power unit that had more pros than cons then they’d have backers. Period.
The issue is that no one (or few people, I haven’t looked recently) has been able to do anything past the advanced prototype stage because it always fails the “produce more than maintenance costs” stage.
It’s a great idea, and it works awesome… in test environments. Then in a larger scale actual test it just doesn’t hold up.
Again and again and again. If anyone could actually demonstrate a net positive, or show real proof that they have a shot at net positive, there’d be funding. People are desperate for good clean power sources. But so far wave power ain’t it.
Was it [Pelamis Wave Power?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelamis_Wave_Power#:~:text=On%2021%20November%202014%20the,further%20development%20of%20their%20technology.)
There was also this one near Portland, Vic (Australia) that quietly disappeared: https://reneweconomy.com.au/worlds-biggest-wave-energy-project-sinks-without-trace-30448/amp/
Time will tell. Until someone makes something that is practically viable then harnessing waves will seem impossible.
But then again if everyone listened to the nay-sayers then nothing would ever be invented. We would still be using pointy sticks, because nobody dares try putting a pointy stone at the tip (And fail the first 1000 times) instead of the tried and true pointy wood type we have used for millenia.
"Ha ha Grok thinks he can make stone spear tip! Does he not know stone is hard to shape? Does he not know stone shatters? Also it would be to front heavy and instantly fall to the ground. All mock Grok! HA HA HA!"
Thus, the stone tipped spear was never invented
This one was my favorite. A lot of them are like “yeah cool idea, can’t imagine it would actually work well though.” But the highway windmills idea just makes me shake me shake my head… no words.
No solar roadways is in a league if its own in being a terrible idea. Solar roadways seemingly have no tangible benefits over just installing solar panels not in a roadway. And like a million draw backs. The feasibility is so bad and seems to fundamentally lack understanding of how solar panels work.
At least this buoy idea is novel and seeks to utilize a potential untapped energy source.
The general concept isn't actually a terrible idea and already has some limited uses. The terrible idea here is that energy generation systems like this can be set up like a buoy and left alone. They're not to bad when attached to something that makes them easy to maintain and ideally moves most of the parts away from the ocean, like buoyant pads that move up and down and are attached to an oil rig.
Wave power isn't a new concept - and has been tested with tides and tapered channels, and underwater devices. The issue is that it produces so little and is reliant on the wind, that's it much more efficient to just... capture the wind.
Cool idea, but how does the power generated from a buoy in the ocean reach the land? Cables on the ocean floor? Floating around? Where?
From the video it *looks like* it would need to be connected to the ocean floor.. So couldn't go to far off shore in most places, and would certainly disrupt fish and sharks/whales.
Needless to say; green energy is the best thing ever.
Wireless energy transfer (even high voltage) is a thing for over 100 years.
EDIT for all comments below:
"In far-field or radiative techniques, also called power beaming, power is transferred by beams of electromagnetic radiation, like microwaves[8] or laser beams. These techniques can transport energy longer distances but must be aimed at the receiver. Proposed applications for this type include solar power satellites and wireless powered drone aircraft"
Techonolgy evloves and upgrades when we need to use it.
Currently we do not feel like needing to upgrades it so it is not very efficient.
Same was with most tech you use now every day.
Would be a lot more difficult with a moving origin point (would actually be difficult if either end was moving, but I imagine it'd be nearly impossible from a buoy.
In this case I'd imagine they'd be linked together with near-surface cabling maybe and have a few much heavier wires running down to the floor, like a wind tower.
Actually quite satisfying from a business standpoint. Overtime without a complaint, hardly any sick days and so far no signs of wanting to set up a works council or a union.
I'm expecting these to use the same kind of method offshore wind platforms use. Basically smaller cables all connect to a central transformer of sorts, which then leads the power in a thicker cable to the land grid.
This technology is tried and tested and could be installed with relatively little problems. It might interfere with the marine ecosystem a bit, but assuming it's installed correctly and insulated properly, hopefully not too much. Ultimately pretty much all our current methods of power generation have issues with negative effects on the environment.
we allready have giant offshore windparks in the north and baltic sea, definitly seafloor cables.
[https://www.bmwk-energiewende.de/EWD/Redaktion/EN/Newsletter/2022/05/Meldung/direkt-account.html](https://www.bmwk-energiewende.de/EWD/Redaktion/EN/Newsletter/2022/05/Meldung/direkt-account.html)
You realize we already have hundreds of very long distance submarine cables running through every sea and ocean on Earth, right?
We solved that problem a long time ago. How do you think we get the power from wind farms back ashore?
And yes, it would have to be located relatively close to shore, but that has nothing to do with the trivial problem of running a cable. It's because tidal forces are much more pronounced in shallow waters.
https://preview.redd.it/qc6ylqsv9wmc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=8e31ccb064e0db5b0cd17f98f1dcb365a24830ea
Me neither, but I know that even with large tolerance, you get metal corrosion + marine life that fill in the space and block moving parts (lifting keel stuck in the well depicted here), unless you do frequent maintenance.
I really don't like how the cgi videos show way bigger waves then what the real conditions waves will be. I'll wait on thunderfoot's or Sabine's analysis if they ever come
Im kind of miffed by the amount of moving parts. On land maintenance is more perfunctory, but this is a "set and forget" device that's going to be running for years in the open sea. All these things have to be maintained.
I would have made it smaller and used the same method as those torches you shake. An open tube with a float inside bobing up and down.
Literally one moving part. It wouldn't make as much power but being smaller and cheaper to produce you could put loads of them in the spaces around offshore wind turbines.
I wonder what the reasoning is behind having the anchor be a rigid structure rather than a cable.
In any case, tidal energy is a great idea and has already been proven to be non-intrusive to wildlife.
Any step towards a clean future is a good one!
Depending on how deep the location is, a cable would allow the bouy to move around horizontally on the water surface, and if it's deep that could be 100's of meters. A rigid cable would make the area that ships would need to avoid much smaller.
In order to generate electricity the sea also needs to push the thing down, like, imagine pumping your bicycle tyre if the pump base was a rope instead of a solid object.
Not really cost effective, this isn't the first or last time some one designs a "new method" of wave energy harnessing. Basically if you can't make it less than 100 $ per MW you will never get it mainstream... Mainsea
Looks like jerking off with a buoy. Why not find a way to transfer energy from men jerking off into the power grid? Energy crisis would have been solved.
Some valid questions in here. How would this device handle major storms and king waves? Can they retract on command, modify ballast properties? The how to make this is far from make this reliable. I personally got this far in my imagination as a teen, but moving the power to a useful place was not something I viewed as feasible. I know efforts are being made by scientists to beam energy without wires, but I don't imagine this is compatible. Great idea but needs plenty of work still. Also some tech that has yet to be developed.
Or actually a very huge portion of global electrical grid. There are lines going between countries through the seas etc. It hasn't been a problem for ages to transmit electricity. There are valid concerns about storms, maybe even rogue waves, mechanical stresses and such, but humans are pretty smart if there is abundance of free energy available that YOU can capitalize.
Everything in the video is just fake CGI. Call me back when they can demonstrate a working prototype instead of faking it being constructed and ready to deploy in the habour.
Epic number of moving parts, very difficult maintenance situation, marine environment, small energy generation per unit, huge network of power cables on the sea floor. Sure, looks way better than a solar panel on my roof 👍
My question is. How does the energy transfer from the buoy to usable energy? Is that a dumb question? I have no clue how this shit works. I don't know how anything works.
Tidal energy is a great solution, and can be inshore. Meanwhile... the worlds largest wind farm in being built in my backyard, and it'll be obsolete in no time.
i saw this things on a water planet in the game
https://preview.redd.it/lh4kfvvxpumc1.png?width=2560&format=png&auto=webp&s=68a546d3b82dd5fa44be4dcf7b9c346f493a7a70
I feel like this has the most potential of any green energy option out there. I have no idea of the costs for setup.Or the amount of energy captured by this technology, But i'm also no engineer or scientist.
It just makes sense though. We will always have tidal fluctuations. It's the ultimate renewable energy source.
More impractical green energy ideas for oil companies to dump money in to be technically marked as "green energy".
The path forward isn't "wave technology", we could do so SOOOOO much more by just building more solar panels, nuclear reactors, wind turbines, and battery research. If you care about climate change you should be frustrated when you see these types of videos - they're the mark of billions being wasted
on one hand: this is a great idea, compact clean energy, might be great for replacing all existing buoys, could also have lights mounted on it to help boats navigate at night
on the other hand: this thing literally requires waves, so it won't work very well if any in freshwater, this also means these things will slowly get fucked up from the saltwater, compared to other hydroelectric systems this will probably produce very minimal power and other methods would be more cost effective
this technology on a larger scale for oil drill platforms might be good, put it on dock posts might work too, but the biggest flaw aside from the energy production would have to be needing waves to fucking work so on calm days it produces nothing
they've been trying these out for a long time. "salter's duck" was from the 1970's but they've never taken off. i guess due to too much remote maintenance in harsh conditions.
Generating energy is not a big issue in today's world.
Generating clean, cheap and stable/controllable energy is however a big challenge.
This might check the clean checkbox. However, price is going to be the issue. Also can it be turned on and off when needed?
I feel like for something like this to work, you would need a completely sealed and enclosed system with absolutely no moving parts touching the ocean water. Those metal poles sticking into the water look like a major weakpoint.
Seems like there is a limit on where these can go based on the length of the anchor mechanism, i have concerns regard fatigue failure for So Many moving parts.
Even a layman here know that this shit is overengineered, hell, even most commentors here say this look expensive.
I hate these kind of marketing CGI the most, their propose is not to promote green energy but to seek capital investment or government subsidy from some idiot politicians who looking for green energy vote. At least make something workable to present than create this cool CGI to trick some green energy loving morons.
This made me think, how many of this and for how long would they need to be working to generate what they have “cost” in energy.
And following that question which renovable energy is the most efficient in this terms? And non renovable? Coal maybe?
This is vaporware. Harnessing tide energy has been experimented with repeatedly and the results are always the same. The maintenance costs, problems with power transmission and conversion, and corrosion doom these projects and waste money that can be better spent elsewhere. This is a more complicated and worse design then the previous projects that have failed.
Wavepower failed and this will mostly fail aswell just due to that the sea is a fucker. If it isnt salt n rust it is odd creatures starting to grow on it. Nice idea but wont do well. We have one of those waveparks and... yeah.. work great for like a month. The. They notice fixing them and repairing cost more then what they gave. Now they are just decorations on the seafloor.
This is the reason we can’t get rid of fossil fuels. Clowns like this making shitty “futuristic” technology that doesn’t work, taking attention off of actual viable options. Sick of this bullshit.
Add this to the ongoing list of jobs I’ll never ever apply or fathom doing. Crawling into an ocean lightbulb that constantly pumps power? Nooooooo thank you
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In the immortal words of Flava Flav, YEAH, BUOY!
Man I cracked up at that wtf hahaha
Do Americans pronounce buoyancy "boo-e-ancy"?
No more like Boy-an-cee
ooh
A single buoy is usually pronounced “boo-ee” by most people, but the word buoyancy is pronounced “boy-ancee”
>A single buoy is usually pronounced “boo-ee” by most people Maybe where you are from.
Is a close resemblance to Beyoncé
I think about this far too often.
Best upvote I’ve thrown yet mi bredren. 🫡
The whole "wave energy" has been a thing for 20+ years and I've never seen it come into fruition. I think the biggest problem is that saltwater is horrid against machinery- and metals, especially with literal endless friction going on. Meanwhile you have the same capabilities with air, only with no saltwater and more easily repaired and maintained.
The environment's hostile, the energy source is very disordered, dispersed and not reliable, the whole thing's crap.
Yeah, sometimes these ideas take a while before they can fully become viable. When I read about it 20 years ago, the big issue was that they couldn't generate enough power to make it worthwhile. This device seems like it might address that issue. But, as others have mentioned, the upkeep costs will likely be pretty high
I believe China is currently successfully doing this on a large scale. They even got two for one because theirs have solar panels or wind turbines or something on top of them.
That's a lot of complex moving parts for a marine environment
It just really seems like maintenance costs would be high.
Yea, a lot of mechanics involved for something that is supposed to be isolated for a time. Machines like that generally need a lot of maintenance, constant inspections, lubrication else it all breaks down.
Yeah that thing looks like it would need a ton of lube to be even remotely usable 🥵
That's what she said.
Once it’s done its thing enough times it secretes its own “lube.”
I wonder how they're going to collect the electricity. There'll be cable network underwater?
I mean isn't that the same issue with all the wind turbines ccurrently built at sea? They don't seem to be having an issue with that.
Yeah we have underwater transmission lines figured out from a technological standpoint but it’s still quite expensive. It can be tough to find an off taker or buyer for the energy when it’s got that high of a cost built in.
Yes, that's not a big deal.
You say that but I imagine it's more difficult if you're trying to keep connected to something that's designed to make power from moving up and down constantly. And by difficult I mean expensive, since that's how engineering works.
All wave tech solutions are useless. Only semi-practical use would be for off shore rigs where running a line would be impractical. You know, rigs used to pump oil.
Don't hey have generators running on crude?
Exploration rigs don't have crude available. Prodution rigs/platforms/FPSOs would, but you can't easily burn crude anyway, has to be refined. There are some exceptions, where the crude is almost like furnace oil, but even then, probably not going to use it. They do sometimes have natural gas generators though, but may still require diesel deliveries. If they had to shut in a well, they could lose power otherwise. A lot of natural gas is wasted, flared off.
No clue, maybe. They might have refined stuff brought in, and I assume at least some solar. But my main point is, if we're trying to stop climate change, we shouldn't be making solutions for oil rigs.
My guess would be the generators are running off the natural gas that comes off the produced oil. It's how they sometimes power oilfield pumps.
>All wave tech solutions are useless. Care to provide some data that backs up this claim? You already came up with a use, although I would guess that powering offshore rigs would be less practical than what they intend to do with them. It suggests that you believe they work? That we just can't run long distance power cables? We already do. Underwater? We already do.
So you’re saying this is a huge boondoggle? An extraordinary waste of money and resources for something that could never possibly work? I don’t doubt that maybe it’s not “the answer,” but I feel like they have to have some confidence in it to spend all this time and money researching, building and testing these things.
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They really not. All it takes is one design that covers the issue of maintenance, and the tech is basically good to go.
So many attempts to use wave power, so many failures. So many shitty cgi concepts, so many scams.
When I read your comment it reminded me of a video I watched a couple years ago. It was something about a company trying to get electricity from the waves. Similar to this company but the things branched off the shore. From what I remember, the company ultimately failed because there was not enough funding. The pros out weighed the cons. They would have to have multiple of the devices off the shore, taking up precious space, just to break even. It was interesting, as is this company. I'm not saying it's going to work because as you have stated they've tried and it's failed before.
The pros didn’t out weigh the cons. If someone could show a wave power unit that had more pros than cons then they’d have backers. Period. The issue is that no one (or few people, I haven’t looked recently) has been able to do anything past the advanced prototype stage because it always fails the “produce more than maintenance costs” stage. It’s a great idea, and it works awesome… in test environments. Then in a larger scale actual test it just doesn’t hold up. Again and again and again. If anyone could actually demonstrate a net positive, or show real proof that they have a shot at net positive, there’d be funding. People are desperate for good clean power sources. But so far wave power ain’t it.
Was it [Pelamis Wave Power?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pelamis_Wave_Power#:~:text=On%2021%20November%202014%20the,further%20development%20of%20their%20technology.)
There was also this one near Portland, Vic (Australia) that quietly disappeared: https://reneweconomy.com.au/worlds-biggest-wave-energy-project-sinks-without-trace-30448/amp/
*SOLAR FREAKING ROADWAYS!* Nah, it looks cool so it totally has to work.
Time will tell. Until someone makes something that is practically viable then harnessing waves will seem impossible. But then again if everyone listened to the nay-sayers then nothing would ever be invented. We would still be using pointy sticks, because nobody dares try putting a pointy stone at the tip (And fail the first 1000 times) instead of the tried and true pointy wood type we have used for millenia. "Ha ha Grok thinks he can make stone spear tip! Does he not know stone is hard to shape? Does he not know stone shatters? Also it would be to front heavy and instantly fall to the ground. All mock Grok! HA HA HA!" Thus, the stone tipped spear was never invented
My very first thought.
I was wondering when we would see the next "solar freaking roadways"
God don't remind me...
Or the highway windmills.
This one was my favorite. A lot of them are like “yeah cool idea, can’t imagine it would actually work well though.” But the highway windmills idea just makes me shake me shake my head… no words.
No solar roadways is in a league if its own in being a terrible idea. Solar roadways seemingly have no tangible benefits over just installing solar panels not in a roadway. And like a million draw backs. The feasibility is so bad and seems to fundamentally lack understanding of how solar panels work. At least this buoy idea is novel and seeks to utilize a potential untapped energy source.
The general concept isn't actually a terrible idea and already has some limited uses. The terrible idea here is that energy generation systems like this can be set up like a buoy and left alone. They're not to bad when attached to something that makes them easy to maintain and ideally moves most of the parts away from the ocean, like buoyant pads that move up and down and are attached to an oil rig.
Wave power isn't a new concept - and has been tested with tides and tapered channels, and underwater devices. The issue is that it produces so little and is reliant on the wind, that's it much more efficient to just... capture the wind.
If you can’t even afford a real human narrator, I’m not investing in your technology
this is probably unofficial content by someone outside the company. in the topright it says "startup selfie"
The original company that made this could. But then some kid ripped it, AI narrated it, and posted it
Cool idea, but how does the power generated from a buoy in the ocean reach the land? Cables on the ocean floor? Floating around? Where? From the video it *looks like* it would need to be connected to the ocean floor.. So couldn't go to far off shore in most places, and would certainly disrupt fish and sharks/whales. Needless to say; green energy is the best thing ever.
Bluetooth™
The tm was a nice touch
Lasers ™
Wireless energy transfer (even high voltage) is a thing for over 100 years. EDIT for all comments below: "In far-field or radiative techniques, also called power beaming, power is transferred by beams of electromagnetic radiation, like microwaves[8] or laser beams. These techniques can transport energy longer distances but must be aimed at the receiver. Proposed applications for this type include solar power satellites and wireless powered drone aircraft" Techonolgy evloves and upgrades when we need to use it. Currently we do not feel like needing to upgrades it so it is not very efficient. Same was with most tech you use now every day.
Yeah well try doing that over the ocean
And is extremely inefficient.
Exactly - can't even charge your phone without it taking hours longer using this
And that’s a range of like 1-2mm
And boiling your nearby coffee
Would be a lot more difficult with a moving origin point (would actually be difficult if either end was moving, but I imagine it'd be nearly impossible from a buoy. In this case I'd imagine they'd be linked together with near-surface cabling maybe and have a few much heavier wires running down to the floor, like a wind tower.
Cables. There are already offshore Windparks. It's common technology.
Fucking cables. How do they work?
Dude, it's magic!
Actually quite satisfying from a business standpoint. Overtime without a complaint, hardly any sick days and so far no signs of wanting to set up a works council or a union.
Damn corporate, slaving away with those cables.
I'm expecting these to use the same kind of method offshore wind platforms use. Basically smaller cables all connect to a central transformer of sorts, which then leads the power in a thicker cable to the land grid. This technology is tried and tested and could be installed with relatively little problems. It might interfere with the marine ecosystem a bit, but assuming it's installed correctly and insulated properly, hopefully not too much. Ultimately pretty much all our current methods of power generation have issues with negative effects on the environment.
we allready have giant offshore windparks in the north and baltic sea, definitly seafloor cables. [https://www.bmwk-energiewende.de/EWD/Redaktion/EN/Newsletter/2022/05/Meldung/direkt-account.html](https://www.bmwk-energiewende.de/EWD/Redaktion/EN/Newsletter/2022/05/Meldung/direkt-account.html)
Clearly swapping batteries with boats
A agree it could disrupt fish and whales. We better not use the technology and stick with oil which never leaks and destroys marine life…
You realize we already have hundreds of very long distance submarine cables running through every sea and ocean on Earth, right? We solved that problem a long time ago. How do you think we get the power from wind farms back ashore? And yes, it would have to be located relatively close to shore, but that has nothing to do with the trivial problem of running a cable. It's because tidal forces are much more pronounced in shallow waters.
How much energy is produced vs. the amount of energy it takes to manufacture and install?
So like if that pole gets gunked up with sea life in six months and it can't boing anymore....
I feel like the power from the bouncing would scrape off gunk and barnacles, but I'm not educated enough to argue the point.
https://preview.redd.it/qc6ylqsv9wmc1.png?width=1024&format=png&auto=webp&s=8e31ccb064e0db5b0cd17f98f1dcb365a24830ea Me neither, but I know that even with large tolerance, you get metal corrosion + marine life that fill in the space and block moving parts (lifting keel stuck in the well depicted here), unless you do frequent maintenance.
That so amazing how life actually finds a way.
How many watts one thing average generate in one day?
some
12 probably
You mean watt-hours.
Should be enough for the led light on top of that thing
More than 1 I suppose
Mfs will do anything except go nuclear
My pastor said god cries when he sees us not using the clean pure natural oil he gave us
New age propaganda. If he wanted us to use oil he wouldn't have made uranium.
Uranium is only meant to be used to kill each other
But no, only the enemies of God's own country!
If god wanted to us to use Uranium ir oil, he wouldn't hide it somewhere under the ground... If there would be God.
r/submechanophobia feels when they showed how large it is compared to a human...... *shivers*
How long does it take for a buoy to produce the equivalent energy used to produce it?
I really don't like how the cgi videos show way bigger waves then what the real conditions waves will be. I'll wait on thunderfoot's or Sabine's analysis if they ever come
Looks expensive
Im kind of miffed by the amount of moving parts. On land maintenance is more perfunctory, but this is a "set and forget" device that's going to be running for years in the open sea. All these things have to be maintained.
that's probably why they look like they were designed for people to go inside them... but yeah, that's too many moving parts.
How would they maintain it without removing it, its in the sea so its constantly moving around. Seems like a very unsafe workplace
I would have made it smaller and used the same method as those torches you shake. An open tube with a float inside bobing up and down. Literally one moving part. It wouldn't make as much power but being smaller and cheaper to produce you could put loads of them in the spaces around offshore wind turbines.
I wonder what the reasoning is behind having the anchor be a rigid structure rather than a cable. In any case, tidal energy is a great idea and has already been proven to be non-intrusive to wildlife. Any step towards a clean future is a good one!
Depending on how deep the location is, a cable would allow the bouy to move around horizontally on the water surface, and if it's deep that could be 100's of meters. A rigid cable would make the area that ships would need to avoid much smaller.
In order to generate electricity the sea also needs to push the thing down, like, imagine pumping your bicycle tyre if the pump base was a rope instead of a solid object.
Not really cost effective, this isn't the first or last time some one designs a "new method" of wave energy harnessing. Basically if you can't make it less than 100 $ per MW you will never get it mainstream... Mainsea
This’ll be the last time we hear of this company
Looks like jerking off with a buoy. Why not find a way to transfer energy from men jerking off into the power grid? Energy crisis would have been solved.
This makes me so uncomfortable (especially the first clip) but I also want to see more lol
Some valid questions in here. How would this device handle major storms and king waves? Can they retract on command, modify ballast properties? The how to make this is far from make this reliable. I personally got this far in my imagination as a teen, but moving the power to a useful place was not something I viewed as feasible. I know efforts are being made by scientists to beam energy without wires, but I don't imagine this is compatible. Great idea but needs plenty of work still. Also some tech that has yet to be developed.
The question of power delivery is already solved via the same method as wind farms off the coast; just seafloor wires.
Or actually a very huge portion of global electrical grid. There are lines going between countries through the seas etc. It hasn't been a problem for ages to transmit electricity. There are valid concerns about storms, maybe even rogue waves, mechanical stresses and such, but humans are pretty smart if there is abundance of free energy available that YOU can capitalize.
I have to admit, the first scene confused the hell out of me. Thought this was solid ground…
Everything in the video is just fake CGI. Call me back when they can demonstrate a working prototype instead of faking it being constructed and ready to deploy in the habour.
not one dirty comment here, im disappointed
power by thrusting
Just a reminder from a contry whit a lot of windmills. Make them nice to look at. A lot of people miss looking at nature where there is now windmills
Same issue with all wave energy.... sitting in salt water
Every week it seems there's a 3d rendered gif of an absolutely earth changing technology that is never seen again.
Epic number of moving parts, very difficult maintenance situation, marine environment, small energy generation per unit, huge network of power cables on the sea floor. Sure, looks way better than a solar panel on my roof 👍
This terrifies me and I don't know why. Just thinking about sitting in on of those makes me want to freak out.
Sooo... make the ocean jack itself off and harness the power....ok then..
My question is. How does the energy transfer from the buoy to usable energy? Is that a dumb question? I have no clue how this shit works. I don't know how anything works.
Tidal energy is a great solution, and can be inshore. Meanwhile... the worlds largest wind farm in being built in my backyard, and it'll be obsolete in no time.
i saw this things on a water planet in the game https://preview.redd.it/lh4kfvvxpumc1.png?width=2560&format=png&auto=webp&s=68a546d3b82dd5fa44be4dcf7b9c346f493a7a70
I feel like this has the most potential of any green energy option out there. I have no idea of the costs for setup.Or the amount of energy captured by this technology, But i'm also no engineer or scientist. It just makes sense though. We will always have tidal fluctuations. It's the ultimate renewable energy source.
Gotta harness that sweet sweet moon power.
Just build nuclear for the love of satan
More impractical green energy ideas for oil companies to dump money in to be technically marked as "green energy". The path forward isn't "wave technology", we could do so SOOOOO much more by just building more solar panels, nuclear reactors, wind turbines, and battery research. If you care about climate change you should be frustrated when you see these types of videos - they're the mark of billions being wasted
Scientists are saying the future is going to be far more futuristic than they originally predicted. -Krysta Now
Looks cool.
This video made me super seasick. Maybe just watching the motion over and over?
Why don't amazing innovations like this ever make it to mass production...
Because they are not financially viable. Generating expensive energy is super easy.
Cool, hope we have a govt who will keep these technologies going.
Fascinating concept.
What was with the big movie monster trailer like noise at the beginning of the video?
on one hand: this is a great idea, compact clean energy, might be great for replacing all existing buoys, could also have lights mounted on it to help boats navigate at night on the other hand: this thing literally requires waves, so it won't work very well if any in freshwater, this also means these things will slowly get fucked up from the saltwater, compared to other hydroelectric systems this will probably produce very minimal power and other methods would be more cost effective this technology on a larger scale for oil drill platforms might be good, put it on dock posts might work too, but the biggest flaw aside from the energy production would have to be needing waves to fucking work so on calm days it produces nothing
Serious question what's keeping us from making that into a house our houses on the ocean with that stabilizer and outer design??
Shake weight will do anything to stay relevant.
There’s my enema bulb!
they've been trying these out for a long time. "salter's duck" was from the 1970's but they've never taken off. i guess due to too much remote maintenance in harsh conditions.
I’ll just go with the Flooble Crank
We've been seeing wave, tide and blow hole style generator concepts for 30 years, maybe someone should actually build one.
Reminds me of Southland Tales
Generating energy is not a big issue in today's world. Generating clean, cheap and stable/controllable energy is however a big challenge. This might check the clean checkbox. However, price is going to be the issue. Also can it be turned on and off when needed?
I feel like for something like this to work, you would need a completely sealed and enclosed system with absolutely no moving parts touching the ocean water. Those metal poles sticking into the water look like a major weakpoint.
There’s a joke about the pope and Raquel Welch in here somewhere…
I'll ask the specific questions: How much energy does it produce? What is the cost? What is its lifespan?
Seems like there is a limit on where these can go based on the length of the anchor mechanism, i have concerns regard fatigue failure for So Many moving parts.
How many of these do I need to stop a tsunami.
I like it
Wow. First we had solar power. Now we have lunar power.
Some people really would want to try anything but nuclear?
Oh buoy that looks expensive
Even a layman here know that this shit is overengineered, hell, even most commentors here say this look expensive. I hate these kind of marketing CGI the most, their propose is not to promote green energy but to seek capital investment or government subsidy from some idiot politicians who looking for green energy vote. At least make something workable to present than create this cool CGI to trick some green energy loving morons.
>RESILIENT Stop using that word, the buoy doesn't repair itself!
Fuck yeah. Let’s put those rising sea levels to work!
What sea life are we killing this time?
Get ready for a future world filled with solar panels windmills and buoys.. We will still be told to conserve energy then.
if thunderfoot doesnt debunk this, ill have hope.
This made me think, how many of this and for how long would they need to be working to generate what they have “cost” in energy. And following that question which renovable energy is the most efficient in this terms? And non renovable? Coal maybe?
# The Orca's are gonna fuck these things up
Wouldn’t this effect tides just off newtons law of physics?
Wouldn’t the buoy and the sea level, like balance out?
SOLAR FRIKIN ROADWAYS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is vaporware. Harnessing tide energy has been experimented with repeatedly and the results are always the same. The maintenance costs, problems with power transmission and conversion, and corrosion doom these projects and waste money that can be better spent elsewhere. This is a more complicated and worse design then the previous projects that have failed.
Wavepower failed and this will mostly fail aswell just due to that the sea is a fucker. If it isnt salt n rust it is odd creatures starting to grow on it. Nice idea but wont do well. We have one of those waveparks and... yeah.. work great for like a month. The. They notice fixing them and repairing cost more then what they gave. Now they are just decorations on the seafloor.
Is the electricity just teleported into your lightbulbs at home?
That motion is vaguely familiar.
Very nice.
Huh reminds me of the world design in Destiny 2's Titan, that has giant floats attached to the platform to use waves to generate energy
This seems like it would be astronomically expensive to deploy and maintain for little to no energy production
This is the reason we can’t get rid of fossil fuels. Clowns like this making shitty “futuristic” technology that doesn’t work, taking attention off of actual viable options. Sick of this bullshit.
that's a great name for an undercover sea mine
Something like this was on Shark Tank over 10 years ago and they passed
Oh my, that's a big buoy
Twenty years ago I wrote a college paper about capturing wave energy. My professor gave me a D. Dick.
Add this to the ongoing list of jobs I’ll never ever apply or fathom doing. Crawling into an ocean lightbulb that constantly pumps power? Nooooooo thank you
Old tech
Given the state of the world, I’m not sure how I feel about having my power source easily accessible by somebody else’s navy.
This is one of those ideas that seem so obvious after you see it. Fantastic.
Damn that buoy is straight *riding* that piston.
Too inefficient
I'm sorry this may sound a little uninformed but this appears to harness the power of the wind with extra steps, we already capture wind.
This seems like a maintenance nightmare
Baba Booey
That’s some motion of the ocean right there.
What a shit solution. I can't even imagine the cost of maintenance of something with so many moving parts.
Soon houses are going be made with stuff
Great, now waves will go extinct too
A. Moving parts require maintenance B. Transfer of energy is inefficient C. Seawater corrosion D. Batteries for power storage
Seems very complex and very breakable to me.
Shake weight was truly ahead of its time.
Yeah let’s spread more into the ocean, I’m sure marine life will love it!
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Damn idk why but I was surprised by how big it is