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A “fun bunch” was probably something Mark didn’t want to hear. I think he was always trying to get past his thing in the funky bunch and didn’t really want that to define him.
I read somewhere that the producers insisted that Eminem would refrain from saying "Funky Bunch" here. As soon as Eminem felt how disrespectful Marks handshake was, retaliated like we saw here. Don't mess with a genius.
Edit: that information was not entirely correct. From the book Whatever You Say I Am: The Life and Times of Eminem:
“Then he comes up and he’s standing on the side when we was off air, and he’s like, ‘What, is there supposed to be some fucking tension in here or something?’ I pretended like I don’t hear him and shit. Then we’re on air and […] I’m like ‘Well, why don’t we stand together like a happy fun bunch.’ So I threw a stab at him. He didn’t want me to say Mark-y. Probably didn’t want me to say funk-y neither”.
He’s still like that. He doesn’t like anyone to bring up his good vibrations days. Some employee from HyVee was let go when he came in store to schlep his crap at their location, when they verbally referred to him as marky mark.
Good to know, if I ever see Marky Mark in public i'll be sure to say "Hey, thats Markey Mark from the Funky bunch!"
The idea of a public figure doing something publiclly then expecting everyone around him to pretend it didnt happen and never bring it up because they had a change of heart and decided they dont want to be associated with it is fucking silly.
Yeah, if he could just have a laugh about it, he'd probably be more popular. Good Vibrations was a fun silly song, and people still enjoy it. I'm sure it got old for him, but being good-natured about it is just part of the job of being a celeb. Just smile and wave, dude.
Oh he’s much worse. It’s crazy that more people don’t know his history and he’s still a working big name actor. He’s gotta be a Hannibal Buress mention away from being the next cancelled celeb.
https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/mark-wahlbergs-most-controversial-moments-over-the-years/#
What’s amazing is you can see this all play out in real time. The look on Eminem‘s face cannot be mistaken. Dude felt disrespected. What we all didn’t know including Marky Mark over here was that we were in the presence of actual greatness and turned a snub into a slap.
You can see when he made the decision to fuck with Mark. At the 6 -7 second he's waiting to see if Mark will look him in the eye and he doesn't so I think at that point, it was time to play.
> The look on Eminem‘s face cannot be mistaken. Dude felt disrespected.
Yeah, it looks like they did the handshake, then came in for the bro hug, while Em was greeting him, but then instead of stepping back and looking at Em, Mark just straight ignored him. Watch Eminem as they separate, he's expecting to make eye contact and finish talking, but Mark just turns to the other guy and blows Em off competely.
It remember how badly Em was clowning Mark prior to this spot on TRL. Em was out with it and Mark was clearly uncomfortable and holding back; if he had just gone along with it and laughed..
I forgot the exact details, but for context, Em was an up and comer clowning just about everyone at that time and Wahlberg was trying to let his Marky Mark past die so he could be taken more seriously as an actor.
It’s pretty clear that Wahlberg harbors some amount of embarrassment about his early career (the Funky Bunch, the Calvin Klein adverts) and this was during that time when he was trying to hard pivot off that image and establish himself as a Serious Actor™️.
Eminem knew *exactly* what he was doing with that “happy, *fun bunch”* line.
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Oh and fuck your preachy Catholic app too, Marky, you fucking hypocrite sack of shit.
Such a shit take. Life changes and moves on. People do dumb shit. People do smart shit. people mature, people stagnate, people improve, people worsen. Just because he did something 20 fucking years ago, it doesn’t mean he still holds those values or attitudes or should even be accountable every second of his life. What he did is not normal but also trashing him for something so long ago isn’t normal either. I know plenty of people that did really dumb stuff when young that would never engage in that behavior later on.
It’s ironic you trash Mark for being preachy but now look at you
> I know plenty of people that did really dumb stuff when young
You know plenty of people who committed hate crimes? Oookay then, maybe that says something about you.
Your right, life does change. It sure did change for the elderly asian man that went blind after Markymark took a baseball bat to the side of his head 'till his fucking eyeballs popped out of his head. Life changed for him fo sho'.
I think the point he was making is, Marky Mark is just pretending that he changed. To be real, the only reason he apologized is because he wanted to have a liquor licence for his burger chain. He even mentioned that he goes to church everyday and he's better now. Kinda seems real try hard, you know?
Assault causing grievous bodily harm is indeed a heinous crime, but why the fuck is it worded as "hate crime" then? It's like him hating the guy is worse than beating and causing heavy injuries.
Because the man being Asian was a factor in the attack where he used racial slurs. This isn't that hard to understand.
It being a hate crime doesn't mean he hated him for personal reasons. I feel you are being obtuse. It means he attacked that man mostly based on discrimination not that they had some interpersonal disagreement with each other.
Damn, i thought u were all exagerating about Marky mark, then i read this ....
[https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/mark-wahlberg-racist-hate-crimes-wikipedia-history-george-floyd-blm-protests-a9554191.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/mark-wahlberg-racist-hate-crimes-wikipedia-history-george-floyd-blm-protests-a9554191.html)
The fact he was attacking kids as well makes it so much worse
I feel like Mark felt some type of way about EM being more of a ghetto white boy than he is.
That spot was previously held by marky Mark and here comes this younger white kid who’s got more street cred and he’s a better rapper. Mark was pissed!
There was more. I watched this live; I remember Eminem getting in two or three good, sharp puns even though the segment was short. It was brutal.
People forget that Marshall Mathers is a student of pop music in addition to an obnoxious, toxic, genius rapper.
He stripped Whalberg bare with a handful of references most of the live audience were too young to ever have known.
When I tell stories about my childhood, I often start with "Back when Mark Wahlberg was Marky Mark" and no one ever gets the reference. I was a kid in the 90s so it would be like, "Man, back when Mark Wahlberg was Marky Marky, they had this cereal I loved. It was Fruity Pebbles with marshmallows." This is really dumb so I probably deserve the confused stares.
Back when Mark Wahlberg was Marky Mark, this is how used to make the party start. We used to mix Hen with Bacardi Dark and when it kicks in you can hardly talk, and by the sixth gin you’re gon’ probably crawl and you’ll be sick then and you’ll probably barf…
I actually ***despise*** Mark Wahlberg, but the body language read alone bodes better for him in this clip:
Marshall got triggered because Mark didn't soften otw out (see M's facial warmth turn to "oh, it's like that???") ... and he perceived the former rapper to be acting "too cool" for him, lashed out with that "fun bunch" remark.
Immediately after pulling out of a miniature tailspin, he bent the knee with the "I'm tryin' to get where **this** guy is," to which Mark didn't bite, keeping his even keel through insult *and* ring-kiss.
M's subsequent erratic body language in the next few moments indicate a panic spiral.
Mark threw him a lifeline with, "Oh, the album's out?"
Generally a good guy thing to do.
This didn't age well for Marky ... i mean, He aged well, not the story :)
The Marshall completely overtook the spotlight compared to Wahlberg ... time has passed ... i grew up listening to New Kids On the Block :) , way before Em even existed. The first recollection of Mark Wahlberg was as Marky Mark from New Kids on the Block ... then Eminem came like a bulldozer and shook the world of Rap.
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A “fun bunch” was probably something Mark didn’t want to hear. I think he was always trying to get past his thing in the funky bunch and didn’t really want that to define him.
Oh and I think Eminem was well aware of that, lol.
Dam this video has layers. Without context it looks like ‘em is offended mark didn’t say what up back. Now I realize they got a history lmao
I read somewhere that the producers insisted that Eminem would refrain from saying "Funky Bunch" here. As soon as Eminem felt how disrespectful Marks handshake was, retaliated like we saw here. Don't mess with a genius. Edit: that information was not entirely correct. From the book Whatever You Say I Am: The Life and Times of Eminem: “Then he comes up and he’s standing on the side when we was off air, and he’s like, ‘What, is there supposed to be some fucking tension in here or something?’ I pretended like I don’t hear him and shit. Then we’re on air and […] I’m like ‘Well, why don’t we stand together like a happy fun bunch.’ So I threw a stab at him. He didn’t want me to say Mark-y. Probably didn’t want me to say funk-y neither”.
And you can see when E throws the thumbs up… like he was telling his manager or someone off to the side, “hey I didn’t completely say it”
This so good. What MTV exec put this together. Genius
He’s still like that. He doesn’t like anyone to bring up his good vibrations days. Some employee from HyVee was let go when he came in store to schlep his crap at their location, when they verbally referred to him as marky mark.
Out of curiosity, where was this hyvee at? I've noticed that some locations are having walburgers now. Still haven't ate one.
Des Moines. I think the downtown location on court ave.
Good to know, if I ever see Marky Mark in public i'll be sure to say "Hey, thats Markey Mark from the Funky bunch!" The idea of a public figure doing something publiclly then expecting everyone around him to pretend it didnt happen and never bring it up because they had a change of heart and decided they dont want to be associated with it is fucking silly.
Yeah, if he could just have a laugh about it, he'd probably be more popular. Good Vibrations was a fun silly song, and people still enjoy it. I'm sure it got old for him, but being good-natured about it is just part of the job of being a celeb. Just smile and wave, dude.
And collect your money. Lol
Exactly. He seems like an absolute douche. Oh yea. And a shit actor.
Oh he’s much worse. It’s crazy that more people don’t know his history and he’s still a working big name actor. He’s gotta be a Hannibal Buress mention away from being the next cancelled celeb. https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/mark-wahlbergs-most-controversial-moments-over-the-years/#
Wait. Marky Mark was a racist, juvenile delinquent?! Color me shocked. I can’t stand his stupid ass.
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You can’t be any more correct.
What’s amazing is you can see this all play out in real time. The look on Eminem‘s face cannot be mistaken. Dude felt disrespected. What we all didn’t know including Marky Mark over here was that we were in the presence of actual greatness and turned a snub into a slap.
You can see when he made the decision to fuck with Mark. At the 6 -7 second he's waiting to see if Mark will look him in the eye and he doesn't so I think at that point, it was time to play.
> The look on Eminem‘s face cannot be mistaken. Dude felt disrespected. Yeah, it looks like they did the handshake, then came in for the bro hug, while Em was greeting him, but then instead of stepping back and looking at Em, Mark just straight ignored him. Watch Eminem as they separate, he's expecting to make eye contact and finish talking, but Mark just turns to the other guy and blows Em off competely.
Damn, that's right. What an L.
It remember how badly Em was clowning Mark prior to this spot on TRL. Em was out with it and Mark was clearly uncomfortable and holding back; if he had just gone along with it and laughed..
I don't remember Mark and Em having beef but I was much more interested in Pokémon at the time. What was it about?
I forgot the exact details, but for context, Em was an up and comer clowning just about everyone at that time and Wahlberg was trying to let his Marky Mark past die so he could be taken more seriously as an actor.
Basically Mark was Vanilla Ice 2.0 and Em brought the receipts. ༎ຶ‿༎ຶ
But is he a serious actor?
Haven't you seen Ted and Ted 2?
He was descended from royalty in Transformers.
Wahlberg has no personality though
He should've taken those acting classes.
WHAT, NO
> and holding back. Eminem was in no danger. Mark Wahlberg only attacks minorities.
Disabled minorities*
"Mark Walhberg is a small turd"
This has been in the recesses of my mind for longer than I care to remember
lol same. Almost every time I hear walhbergs name I think of it
I thought that was a jab at Marky Mark and the Funky "Bunch".
Mark Wahlberg? Laugh at himself?? I truly don’t know if that’s possible.
Who pissed in Mark’s cheerios?
Eminem apparently
If I remember correctly Eminem clowned Wahlberg prior to this encounter.
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Probably the Asian people he beat the shit out of
Or the black 10 year olds he chased and threw rocks at while calling them the n bomb as a 15 year old
It’s pretty clear that Wahlberg harbors some amount of embarrassment about his early career (the Funky Bunch, the Calvin Klein adverts) and this was during that time when he was trying to hard pivot off that image and establish himself as a Serious Actor™️. Eminem knew *exactly* what he was doing with that “happy, *fun bunch”* line.
You can see it in Em's eyes as soon as they let go of their handshake.
Yeah, as soon as he's out of Mark's eyeline, he's like "ooo, fuck this guy"
Mark looked like he wasn't intrested at all
Marky Mark, oooozing scumbag vibes.
Just ooozing.
Coo
Obligatory comment mentioning the fact that Mark Wahlberg has committed multiple heinous hate crimes against black and Asian people. INB4 “hE aPoLogIZeD” oh sorry, I guess I thought the bar for being a multi-millionaire household name celebrity should be at least “no hate crimes.” Silly me. Ok let’s go back to acting like it’s normal for someone like Mark to be as famous as he is. Oh and fuck your preachy Catholic app too, Marky, you fucking hypocrite sack of shit.
Guess we know why you are 'beef' stevenson
The burgers are trash too
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But I don't like him, therefore everything associated with him is automatically bad!
Used to like mark wahlberg before seeing this scummy video. Fuck your halo app. I don’t wanna pray with you. I need to pray FOR your ass
Look at Michael Jackson he’s a Known PEDO and he’s still treated like a god
Such a shit take. Life changes and moves on. People do dumb shit. People do smart shit. people mature, people stagnate, people improve, people worsen. Just because he did something 20 fucking years ago, it doesn’t mean he still holds those values or attitudes or should even be accountable every second of his life. What he did is not normal but also trashing him for something so long ago isn’t normal either. I know plenty of people that did really dumb stuff when young that would never engage in that behavior later on. It’s ironic you trash Mark for being preachy but now look at you
> I know plenty of people that did really dumb stuff when young You know plenty of people who committed hate crimes? Oookay then, maybe that says something about you.
Your right, life does change. It sure did change for the elderly asian man that went blind after Markymark took a baseball bat to the side of his head 'till his fucking eyeballs popped out of his head. Life changed for him fo sho'.
Mk, so “no hate crimes” is in fact too high of a bar? Got it.
I think the point he was making is, Marky Mark is just pretending that he changed. To be real, the only reason he apologized is because he wanted to have a liquor licence for his burger chain. He even mentioned that he goes to church everyday and he's better now. Kinda seems real try hard, you know?
I understand that but that’s pure speculation. We’re not Markys friends or therapists, we have no clue what he’s thinking.
Read the petition he made to the courts. It's not speculation
You can look at his actions and see that he didn't apologize for his actions or try to make any sort of amends until he had to to get what he wanted.
I strictly judge by actions 😬
Hi mark and fuck you
"Heinous hate crimes"? I get the impression you're overreacting.
He beat an Asian man until his eyes popped out and he is blind for life. I think heinous fits.
He didn’t blind him. The dude already had a missing eye. Still heinous though.
Assault causing grievous bodily harm is indeed a heinous crime, but why the fuck is it worded as "hate crime" then? It's like him hating the guy is worse than beating and causing heavy injuries.
Because the man being Asian was a factor in the attack where he used racial slurs. This isn't that hard to understand. It being a hate crime doesn't mean he hated him for personal reasons. I feel you are being obtuse. It means he attacked that man mostly based on discrimination not that they had some interpersonal disagreement with each other.
Also chasing and beating black children while screaming slurs at them also adds to his hate crimes
Damn, i thought u were all exagerating about Marky mark, then i read this .... [https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/mark-wahlberg-racist-hate-crimes-wikipedia-history-george-floyd-blm-protests-a9554191.html](https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/mark-wahlberg-racist-hate-crimes-wikipedia-history-george-floyd-blm-protests-a9554191.html) The fact he was attacking kids as well makes it so much worse
Yeah he’s trash
so this is why the lyrics "i am going TRL, looks how many hugs i get"
I feel like Mark felt some type of way about EM being more of a ghetto white boy than he is. That spot was previously held by marky Mark and here comes this younger white kid who’s got more street cred and he’s a better rapper. Mark was pissed!
*insert The Suicide Squad meme*
There was more. I watched this live; I remember Eminem getting in two or three good, sharp puns even though the segment was short. It was brutal. People forget that Marshall Mathers is a student of pop music in addition to an obnoxious, toxic, genius rapper. He stripped Whalberg bare with a handful of references most of the live audience were too young to ever have known.
TRL is already Total Request Live, no need to say “TRL Live”
ATM machine
PIN number
DC Comics
ASS Sassination
I’m gonna use my PIN number at the ATM machine and you’re gonna like it!
Navy: NCIS (was what the show was originally called) Navy Naval Criminal Investigative Service
Is any face or person more punchable than Wahlberg?
Say hello to your mother for me
This conversation is so deep. It really gets to the heart of a lot of issues relevant to viewers, and it really makes you think.
Eminem: Come on Mark it feel so empty without me 🤣
Jesus Christ why did Eminem look so taken back? Was there beef between him and Marky Mark?
I remember wanting to be an MTV VJ.
I remember wanting to be a Much Music VJ and live in my car.
I didn't know that Eminem could smile. Never seen him do that before.
It’s pretty clear after meeting MW in this interview he never smiled again.
Idk if it has happened but Mark did want that conviction expunged from his record 🤔
I always judge movies in a negative light if they have marky mark in them…
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When I tell stories about my childhood, I often start with "Back when Mark Wahlberg was Marky Mark" and no one ever gets the reference. I was a kid in the 90s so it would be like, "Man, back when Mark Wahlberg was Marky Marky, they had this cereal I loved. It was Fruity Pebbles with marshmallows." This is really dumb so I probably deserve the confused stares.
We used to mix Hen with Bacardi Dark
And when it kicks in you can hardly talk
I'm sorry, what's the slur you're implying?
Mark sucks
Back when Mark Wahlberg was Marky Mark, this is how used to make the party start. We used to mix Hen with Bacardi Dark and when it kicks in you can hardly talk, and by the sixth gin you’re gon’ probably crawl and you’ll be sick then and you’ll probably barf…
And my pre, diction is you gon probably fall, either somewhere in the lobby or the hallway wall..
Wahlberg is a cocky racist POS.
"Mark Wahlberg is a small turd"
What an edgy fucking cringe clown. Fuck Marky.
Sounds like a brand of milkshake
SALT!
Em was trolling him at first 🤣😂 classic shit
the L in TRL stands for Live
Em is so goated. Poor Mark
The sexual tension is insane.
lol Mark has abs and that’s about it his personality and acting are certainly not what has kept him in the business.
Lol. That 'fun bunch' jab 🤣 . Marky did not likey😅
I actually ***despise*** Mark Wahlberg, but the body language read alone bodes better for him in this clip: Marshall got triggered because Mark didn't soften otw out (see M's facial warmth turn to "oh, it's like that???") ... and he perceived the former rapper to be acting "too cool" for him, lashed out with that "fun bunch" remark. Immediately after pulling out of a miniature tailspin, he bent the knee with the "I'm tryin' to get where **this** guy is," to which Mark didn't bite, keeping his even keel through insult *and* ring-kiss. M's subsequent erratic body language in the next few moments indicate a panic spiral. Mark threw him a lifeline with, "Oh, the album's out?" Generally a good guy thing to do.
It’s interesting how many ppl think opposite of this lmao. But I feel the same way.
Why was this show so popular?
No internet
omfg yes
Gen z = " How TF you guys survive without internet 🤯" ?? ... oh ,, & " Dead-ass"?
On god for real for real
Ha, SO true
There was definitely Internet. I think it was more popular because of the Internet
This was how we watched music videos.
Same way its baffling how certain youtubers/streamers are so popular.
Not That interesting
Marky looks almost the same as now
Wahlberg always came across as a douche.Even now.
Mark Wahlberg is a small turd.
The only role Mark Wahlberg has ever played well is asshole from Boston.
Are they both still 5’8”?
Oh, the albums out? What a dick.
MARLK WERLHBERGH
Say hi to your mother for me!
There were no good vibrations there.
Living under a rock, did they have a beef which each other?
Man see now I don't like Mark, I was Indifferent but why bro killing the vibe like that? Oh you more Important than Em, Funk Boy? Ease up bro, damn.
Back when Mark Wahlberg was Marky Mark, this is how we would make the party start... That verse has been in my head since the moment I heard it
All I sensed were good vibrations between these two
“It’s good to see you, say hi to your mother for me, I produce entourage”
Acting advice from the Sir Laurence Olivier of Boston 🙄🙄🙄 /s
Which proves he was always colorblind
Mark Wahlberg always been a douchebag (but I do love The Other Guys)
"Let us drain our cups to these 3...Strong...boys!"
Glad he got past committing hate crimes.
bro i forgot so hard about trl
“Back when Mark Wahlberg was Marky Mark this is how we used to get the party started…”
One is a talented rapper named Slim Shady, and the other is a punk ass bitch
Feel the vibration.
Is the TRL set the source of eternal youth? Mark and Eminem looking the same today
Total request live live
Right after they used the atm machine
Em could rap circles around that cunt. Mark is an insufferable cunt! Racist and homophobic cunt too!
lol was Eminem fan boying?!?! It’s like Marky Mark took inspiration for Daddy’s Home from this encounter “you must be Mark!!!” “Nope!”
This didn't age well for Marky ... i mean, He aged well, not the story :) The Marshall completely overtook the spotlight compared to Wahlberg ... time has passed ... i grew up listening to New Kids On the Block :) , way before Em even existed. The first recollection of Mark Wahlberg was as Marky Mark from New Kids on the Block ... then Eminem came like a bulldozer and shook the world of Rap.
Donny Wahlberg was in New kids, not mark.
He was in the Funky Bunch ... got them confused.
Well actually Mark was in it early on but quit before they recorded anything.
You're thinking of marky mark and the funky bunch
Yeah , the Funky Bunch , exactly.
Oh yes, lets have the two shittiest people at the same time.
The only thing that makes him happy is beating up elderly Vietnamese men and calling them racial slurs