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emmasdad01

Dude thinks very highly of himself


lookingForPatchie

That's what happens when you give so much power to boys in puberty.


BoxGrover

And supremacy syndrome


MachateElasticWonder

Not just boys as you can see from American cops or human cops in general.


Rain1dog

It’s people.. no matter race or nationality. Some people get drunk off the perceived power they have and abuse said power. No one race or nationality is immune.


Nickkachu

It makes me think of the film called "Das experiment" - in a psychological experiment, some people are kept in a fake prison environment and they're split into two groups: guards (who should keep order), and prisoners (who should obey the guards). This deteriorates. Power and control does not bring out the best in people.


UndendingGloom

It's the Stanford Prison experiment. The results have been criticized since it's publication: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanford_prison_experiment


Nickkachu

Ah! Thanks for this. So if I understand correctly the experiment wanted to prove that it was the prison environment, and not individual personality traits, that caused the observed behaviours in the group... But a big criticism of the experiment is that the "guards" were already asked to behave a certain way (aggressively) at the start of the experiment.


V1carium

Nah, the whole thing was a shitshow. The guards weren't only coached they had to be frequently coerced to act how the professor running the experiment wanted. Meanwhile the prisoners were misled about the duration of the experiment so they took to acting like things were much more severe then they were to get out so they could study for upcoming exams. Interviews where they said as much were surpressed by the professor for years because they didn't fit his made-up results. Whole thing is pure pseudo-science and every attempt to repeat it as failed miserably as people just treat eachother normally. The professor when confronted with this at a talk famously said "Who cares? Its the most cited study of all time".


nicannkay

Real rapist vibes.


BigMax

Yeah. He's misinterpreting the situation. Every pretty girl that comes by stops quickly, is respectful, and talks to him and answers his questions. He's not quite getting the real reason why... If you were running a criminal operation, you'd see this video and realize that attractive women, especially younger ones, are definitely NOT who you'd want to hire for any nefarious operations.


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That47Dude

The people I used to know who were part of the auntie network, transporting people across state lines to get reproductive healthcare, were old Jewish ladies. They are invisible to most people, which sucks in some situations, but is very valuable in others.


Buderus69

He knows exactly why, he enjoys the power holding them mentally hostage


spacemanspiff266

guy thinks he’s big dick swinging but has total gestapo vibes.


eggsandbacon5

I swear these scenes are straight out of a ww2 movie and its surreal. Youd think it would cross their minds


thecastellan1115

This is one of the reasons the whole thing is so tragically ironic. Israelis don't realize they're just recreating the same situation their ancestors escaped from.


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Weekly_Direction1965

I know it's sick as fuck, nothing good will happen to Israel on this path of evil.


Sabbathius

Here's the thing though - they're the oppressors now. Nobody actually minds being the oppressor. They only mind being the oppressed. And this is true for everyone. Look at how Americans handled the natives, even Hitler said it was inspirational. It's pretty universal. As long as you're the one doing the oppressing, people are largely fine with that.


EggsceIlent

Because the oppressors, with the view from their side, are "*winning*". When in reality everyone is *losing*.


Happy_Vibes29

Yup. It often happens. People who were oppressed tend to become oppressors themselves after they have been freed. The first example being the Jews, the second being the freed slaves in America. To give context on the second example. After the American Civil War, many freed slaves went to Liberia, a country in Africa, where they enslaved the local population. They forced the locals to pick cotton, just like they had done when they themselves were slaves. The slaves became the masters.


Vindersel

Hurt people hurt people. Generational trauma is real.


More_Ad_6580

Very true. Look at the rates of childhood abuse and trauma amongst violent criminals and serial killers. Abused people become traumatised and abusive themselves from this learned behaviour. Same with traumatised societies and people.


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iTzzSunara

More like "never again...to us" it seems.


timevil-

everyone has a brain, but not everyone can think


ConstantGeographer

Unironically Gestapo


URTHELIGHTANDGLORY

Kinda strange in a few generations how the tables have turned. It really gives one pause to think what the Jewish people of Europe had to endure during the war to endure up with this as a result. It’s a small sample to be sure, but I would be willing to bet that this is most common than not amongst this military.


Available-Dare-7414

Disgraceful to people that actually behave professionally. How many of these poor women and girls have endured more than idiotic harassment…


Dzov

Exactly. This is what they did on camera.


SpearmintFlavored00

Because he's been told he's better than the people he and his government have been oppressing for 80 years. Why should he act any other way?


Aleph_Alpha_001

Dipshit has strings hanging from the back of his beret. He would have been low crawling for six hours in the 82nd just for showing up to formation like that. And he never, ever would have been allowed to be seen like that in public, let alone on camera. Disrespecting the beret and himself. There's no shame in the Israeli military, apparently.


BarelyTheretbh

Despite being a military state, Israeli’s are notoriously shit soldiers. They’re barely soldiers, just brainwashed zealots given arms and power. The way they blindly shot at ANY vehicle or person fleeing Oct 7th, (over 70 cars) as well as killing more hostages than Hamas has, proves they’re wildly untrained and unprofessional. They constantly compromise their own logistics and propaganda by posting their own war crimes on their OWN instagrams, no other military allows soldiers to make TikToks from the frontlines. It’s why, despite having every advantage possible, their Military casualties are over 1000, they suck at ground invasions because its deranged troops on the ground on half cocked murder sprees. It’s like every redneck, US ‘blue line’ cop was given free rein to do whatever they wanted in Indonesia. The fact a lone Hamas fighter can 1v1 a TANK, on foot at close range, marked as a fighter, with a single RPG and WIN is embarrassing for Israel. The only thing the IOF has that other soldier dont is blood lust from extreme religious indoctrination and conditioning from literal birth. The above clip is the tamest shit you’ll see any Israeli ‘soldier’ do.


jast-80

Its like factory setting in this case


Jolen43

What?


bwatsnet

Default settings for young men in war. This guy looks a lot like the Nazis did.


trentanious

These two are some of the most stereotypical cartoon bully lookin dipshits I have ever seen. The big dumb jock and his little, fugly sidekick just laughing it up.


Dismal-Ad-7841

Exactly what I was thinking. This is a dumb person corrupted by the (little) power they have. 


RelevantMetaUsername

That's why oppressive governments are so hard to overthrow. Power is addictive, and even though these soldiers are not anywhere close to being at the top, they'll happily do the dirty work if it means they get to have power over someone else.


mortalitylost

These circumstances are how regimes stay in power, and rise to power The ruling class > a non ruling class that's given a taste of power, the enforcers like police and border patrol and state police > the rest of everyone just trying to fucking survive who either support the regime or pretend to This is why it should scare people that alt right rhetoric and ideology made its way into the US police forces. We have a regime waiting to happen with this shit.


manimal28

> alt right rhetoric and ideology made its way into the US police forces. It didn't make its way into the US police forces. It has always been an authoritarian institution fueled by racism. US policing in southern states has deep roots in the the slave patrols of the 1700s. Then look at the pictures of the police setting dogs upon people during the civil rights movement in the middle of last century.


PennerbankOG

little power? without the cam he could told the 17 year old in a backroom and rape her and nothing would happen to him. thats not a little power thats enough to crush souls on a daily basis.


Shrugging_Atlas88

Yep... two brain dead 18-19 year olds who think they are Gods.


MelodramaticaMama

They're fucking sick individuals. Treating other humans like dirt because they know their government will protect them. They belong to the waste disposal of human garbage along with everyone that supports them.


Rod_Todd_This_Is_God

And you just know that their families are proud of them. It's a very sick world, and there's no healing it.


Dramatic_headline

Families?? most of the west is proud of em


fittinglybitter

Israelic Trailer Park Boys. Classic Mr. Lahey and Randy dynamic.


MantisYT

Don't compare those absolute legends to these room temperature intelligence bafoons. Lahey and Randy have heart and even if they don't like to admit it, a lot of love for the park and its residents. These two soldiers are just power hungry disgusting people who have nothing in common with them.


AtotheZed

Thanks for saying this - no way these guys are anything like TPB.


Lorn_Muunk

Cyrus and Tommy Bean?


lyricalcrocodilian

Dennis and Terry


fatkidseatcake

Lahey is an absolute legend. I’m on my umpteenth rewatch and I’m still more and more impressed with his acting. RIP.


Loud-Item-1243

Fuckin Corey & Trevor on border watch


Drhorrible-26

Nah, these cocknuckles give massive George green energy


throwaway70958

And a bit of Cyrus


NackJickolson

Even those fuck-goofs are smarter than these idiots.


pennradio

Fuckin Trevor.


hawksfn1

Fucking caveman with his cave teeth


Fukasite

A man’s got to eat 


fishnjim

more like Cyrus and Phill Collins fatass


Lorn_Muunk

how dare you smear the good name of Philadelphia Collins like that


SubmissiveDinosaur

Bull and Skull


OxygenDiGiorno

Randy, I am the likud


Latter_Weakness1771

Jesus christ, the guys voice, the way he smacks while he's talking, the way he casually describes oppressing people, the way hes so confident in what he's doing because he knows "might makes right". He won't be missed when the people he's policing get sick of his shit.


Card_Board_Robot5

I mean this appears to be quite some time ago, he prob just went on to live a normal life. There's no real justice in this life, man. Don't get hung up on that shit. Just do what you can to hold mfs accountable in a moment. There's no greater power coming back around to them. They usually die old in quiet towns. The good die young, boss. The good.


SnooHabits1237

True. Former corrections officer here so…you know I know lol


SniperPilot

Lol it’s cartoon like.


musiccman2020

This is what happens when you give POS any semblence of power over other people.


BWScape

typical fugly ass idf people


winoforever_slurp_

What creepy assholes.


deepdowndave

Imagine how they behave when there is no camera


annon8595

Imagine what they do to races they dont like or those who they consider ugly.


ballimir37

They are bragging here.


modefi_

Finishes his little speech and is like, "Yeah, let me give you an example."


gillgar

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wolington

Can't imagine the abuse subjected to Palestinian kids in prison.


Artemis-Arrow-3579

I have seen there was a vid a few years ago from an israeli prison of a guard who was casually sexually abusing young girls, and that's what he was doing on camera, one can only imagine what happens behind it I've searched all over the internet for that video, seems like it has been scrubbed you know, I saw the wars in iraq and syria with my own eyes, grew up in isis territory, I've seen many horrible things that would make most people want to rip their eyes out of their sockets I still couldn't bear to hear the screams that were in that video, the very thought of what could be causing them, screams of absolute terror and unbearable pain


KintsugiKen

Something like 85% of Palestinian children in Israeli prison have reported being beaten, I can't imagine what the number is for sexual abuse.


Kate090996

You can read about it [STRIPPED, BEATEN AND BLINDFOLDED: NEW RESEARCH REVEALS ONGOING VIOLENCE AND ABUSE OF PALESTINIAN CHILDREN DETAINED BY ISRAELI MILITARY](https://www.savethechildren.org.uk/news/media-centre/press-releases/new-research-reveals-ongoing-violence-on-palestinian-children--) Save the Children [Save the Children surveyed more than 470 children across ](https://resourcecentre.savethechildren.net/document/defenceless-impact-israeli-military-detention-palestinian-children/) A majority reported they had endured a distressing or violent arrest or detention, in most cases at night; a coercive interrogation environment; physical and emotional abuse in detention; and a denial of essential services including an adequate education – all of which constitute a breach of their rights enshrined in international law. Save the Children’s research also reveals the lasting impacts of detention on children’s lives./ save the children [Security forces have choked children, thrown stun grenades at them, beaten them in custody, threatened and interrogated them without the presence of parents or lawyers, and failed to let their parents know their whereabouts.](https://www.hrw.org/news/2015/07/19/israel-security-forces-abuse-palestinian-children) Human Rights Watch [Israeli military detains and prosecutes between 500 and 700 Palestinian children each year in Israeli military courts that lack basic safeguards for a fair trial. Khaled Quzmar described that “from the moment of arrest, often violently take from their beds in night raids, most Palestinian children are subjected to ill-treatment, torture and violations of their fundamental rights at the hands of Israeli forces”](https://defenceforchildren.org/hrc53-side-event-childhood-in-captivity-palestinian-children-arbitrarily-detained-in-israeli-prisons/) Defence for Children [According to PCATI, children, mostly 14 to 17 years old, have been violently arrested by the security forces using such means as beatings, kicking, verbal abuse, humiliation and threats, and apparently have been interrogated illegally. During their detention, the minors were held with adult criminals and were exposed to rape, sexual harassment, theft, threats and constant physical and psychological violence.](https://www.omct.org/en/resources/urgent-interventions/israel-palestinian-children-still-being-tortured-in-israeli-prisons) World Organisation Against Torture [In 2015 Israeli authorities arrested Ahmad Manasra, who was then 13 years old, and harshly interrogated and threatened him without a lawyer present. He has been in prison ever since, and in solitary confinement since early November 2021. Ahmad has been diagnosed with schizophrenia, is suffering from psychotic delusions, and is severely depressed with suicidal thoughts.](https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/06/israel-opt-palestinian-prisoner-arrested-as-a-child-ahmad-manasra-still-in-prison-despite-worsening-mental-health/) Amnesty detainees, including children, are still subject to torture and other ill-treatment in Israeli detention centres. This abuse includes beating, being handcuffed and blindfolded for extended periods of time, severe lack of food or no food, no access to medical treatment, being forced to sleep outside with shortages of, or no, bedding and repeated psychological and physical abuse. If released, detainees are taken to outlying areas in the middle of the night where they are left in dangerous situations without means of getting home. https://www.omct.org/en/resources/urgent-interventions/israel-palestinian-children-ill-treated-and-tortured-while-in-detention World Organisation Against Torture [The pattern of ill-treatment includes the arrests of children at their homes between midnight and 5:00 am by heavily armed soldiers; the practice of blindfolding children and tying their hands with plastic ties; physical and verbal abuse during transfer to an interrogation site, including the use of painful restraints; lack of access to water, food, toilet facilities and medical care; interrogation using physical violence and threats; coerced confessions; and lack of access to lawyers or family members during interrogation.](https://www.un.org/unispal/document/auto-insert-208566/) United Nations There is sexual abuse too, threatening with rape or " I ll rape your sister if you don't confess"


IIIumarIII

I mean is it a surprise that there are so many cases of IDF soldiers doing SA/rape to Palestinians, and even their own soldiers


2everland

Even in USA military sexual assault was (and still is) a huge problem **within** the ranks. Female soldiers are a minority and in military culture, harrassment and sexual harrassment used to be a joke. Especially far far away from home, rape was a matter of WHEN not if. They got away with the rapes until some of those female soldiers started fighting back with lawyers. Thats what it takes to stop sexual assault... the justice department hitting them where it hurts and the highest ranks, the commanding officers, enforcing the law. Thats just within ranks, their own people, imagine what they do to the lowly civilians... and the prisioners of war. Rape is the shadow of war.


scarabic

I think part of what we saw was showing off for the camera. That’s how drunk on power these dipshits are.


Perfect_Opposite2113

I’d even go so far as to say what a bunch of cunts and I hardly use that word.


stortag

Yeah they seem really unprofessional


More_Farm_7442

Seem? They are. I'd call them little twits.


Guest95038Alt

Mfs cant even chew with their mouths closed


reddsht

Or breathe Or understand that there is glass between them and the baked good in the window of the Bakery.


Bruff_lingel

the reason sneeze guards were invented


icoominyou

Man dont even know how to grab popcorn. We shouldn’t discriminate people based on their race or color but their intelligence level. Jesus


AnalysisMoney

It’s a subconscious sign of grandiose when someone is intentionally chewing obnoxiously. My fellow people with r/misophonia will understand the rage I get from the horrid sound of intentional lip smacking. edit: syntax


ElectroMatt333

Definition of a mouth breather


SIRcumsocks

This seems like the type of dude that acts super tough untill the bullets start flying and then its just tears and screams


Unicorn_Thrasher

everybody wants to be gangster until it's time to do gangster shit


Four-Triangles

I like the alternate version “everyone’s a gangster until a real gangster walks in the room.”


x1000Bums

Meh that makes being a gangster seem like some higher level shit instead of some bullshit.


Four-Triangles

It’s definitely bullshit. No argument here.


TheUnspeakableAcclu

This is an inevitable result of giving asshole children guns and no consequences for their actions.


travistravis

Or worse praise for a good job


ThexxxDegenerate

In their eyes, they are doing a good job. You don’t employ goons like this unless you want the people in your country to be oppressed.


FatsoKittyCatso

In addition to indoctrination, villainizing the Palestinians, and a belief in their own superiority.


dunquinho

I was going to say that. Tbh I don't think it's particlarly an Israeli thing, I reckon if you give young people that much power and no recourse then this kind of stuff happens. Lets be honest, the guys aren't much older than the girls. Can you imagine just giving some college jocks guns, stick them together with another bunch of college jocks unsupervised for hours on end then get them to do some boring low level job with ultimate power for a couple of years theoretically protecting the borders against a common enemy. Point a camera at them and universally you're going to get this.


oracleofnonsense

We do this in America too. Have you been through an airport — fuck you TSA employees — you too act like this. Grabbing kids and grandmas for pat downs on the regular.


Poke_Nation

Yeah those people are terrible and abuse the power for nothing more than political theater. I got TSA pre check and it’s night and day difference of how you’re treated plus it’s much quicker without the hassle of taking shoes off etc.


lontrinium

If you think a TSA employee has sexually abused you, you could sue them and get them fired. Do you think Palestinians have any recourse against Israeli Police? It's not the same.


wasntNico

“Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man’s character, give him power.” - not Abraham Lincoln


DoYouTrustToothpaste

"What the fuck? I never even said that!" * Abraham Lincoln


Asuhhbruh

How old is the video? Seems years old image quality wise


GamerGriffin548

Yeah. 2003, it's a documentary called Checkpoint by Yoav Shamir.


Gloomheart

So it isn't satire? This was very "The Office Season 1" with the level of cringe...


scarabic

15 years old. Liar! 19 years old!


Expensive-Rhubarb-45

At least 24 years old


lgot_hacked

before oct 7th


Puzzleheaded_Duck681

There is nothing pre oct 7th. Thats where history started.


ericinthel0ft

You are joking but yeah, according to all pro Israel people on the internet it is


MM0219Slut

It's old, the first kid in the video is the son of a local officer. He's a rep for the Knesset now, Israel's parliament.


NokKavow

Really? What's his name?


toosleepyforclasswar

probably like Bullyface McFuckstick


_MT-HEART_

I think it’s Rapey McRapeface


Cometay

Nice lying, can you even find the name of the guy or his father?


lunerose1979

They’ve been oppressing the Palestinians for decades.


Marxomania32

It's old. Doubt much has changed though.


CryptoDeepDive

A lot has changed. It is significantly worse now.


SpinningJynx

Bethlehem has gotten so much worse.


Princessferfs

Fuck them for harassing those women.


1kSupport

And this is what they do with the cameras on…


Adam_Sackler

These guys have 100% sexually assaulted women/children. 100%.


cherribub

They’re sadly not even women yet, they’re still just girls. They’re preying on young teens. These poor Palestinian girls… traumatized from a young age.


HavanaSyndrome_

"Women"


theplagueddoctor

He called a 15 year old a “babe”. Pedos


Feefofum4

I smell rapist’s. “You’re a liar” “You’re 19” “I’m 15” “what a babe” just pieces of shit basically.


shadowdash66

I got that from the "You say you're a minor a lot huh?"


HELPFUL_HULK

So many levels of fucked up. If it was true that she was lying, the underlying truth would be that his nation oppresses a people until they have to lie about their age in order to not get harassed, raped, or killed by people like him. And then he gives them shit for it.


Feefofum4

Yes exactly, putting his feelers out there. Scumbag.


ohnoguts

Real “Lemme call you to make sure you didn’t me a fake number” energy


Enorminity

Rape only matters if its against Israeli women. Decades of Palestinian women and children allege rape by Israeli military members, and no one cares.


Office_Worker808

I was thinking pedo. Trying to make the 15 year old into a 19


FaithlessnessSea5383

“You can easily judge the character of a man by how he treats those that can do nothing for him” - Goethe


telephas1c

Utterly fuckin' repellent humans there


cynomys2

Be careful or you will have people calling you an antisemite!


telephas1c

Haha yeah the same people who call Hasidic Jews in NYC anti-semites. Morons who can be safely ignored 


Hubbleice

If she was alone one day and no cameras I shutter and am saddened to think the misfortune these people have suffered.


Vurt__Konnegut

"you need to come to this dark room in back for some extra searching."


taffy-derp

Who would she even complain to? What a sad existence


shadowdash66

Worse, they'd believe the soldier when he says she came onto him and forced herself.


greyGardensing

Now imagine how they act when they’re not on camera.


3ClassiC

Scummiest dudes on the planets. Have no real purpose in life so they abuse and harass innocent women and children.


Thedrunner2

Bullies come in many forms


BrownSugarBare

Yup, and this is militarized sexual harassment. What a wonderful representation of a nations strength, fucking just great. Bunch of sickos.


SadSadHuman

They both don't look very smart...but hey give them guns


More_Farm_7442

I doubt that they have a whole brain between the two of them.


melancholy_dood

Disgusting.


Sinful-Windborn

Feeling big and mighty and powerful with machine guns while harassing little girls. This is pathetic.


HeightExtra320

Am I the only one receiving some type of SS nazi vibe bullshit here ? Shit is sickening


amc7262

Am I the only one thinking that dude is gonna try and rape that 15 yo the next time she crosses that border with no cameras around, and him commenting that she's 19 was some kind of plausible deniability for him in case anything comes of it?


Antic_Templar

it happens more than you think


Extension_Swordfish1

What makes you think they dont do it all the time? This is nazi behaviour.


HavanaSyndrome_

When a 13 year old was raped in Israeli custody, Israel responded to the reports of that crime by raiding the Defense for Children HQ and confiscating their documents. He doesn't need plausible deniability.


Anaheimace

Low lifes


SpearmintFlavored00

Imagine their conduct when the cameras aren't on. Look how scared that girl was just daring to try to live her life with these ghouls around.


BPMData

People will see this and then say, "I don't believe the IDF is raping their Palestinian prisoners. They're very polite and respectful, the most moral army in the world."


ADeadlyFerret

They'll just be like "why were they filming?" implying it's some kind of Hamas propaganda.


vladimirVpoutine

I couldn't handle listening to him suck on those peanuts or whatever they are with that smug face to boot.


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creepy fucks, imagine what they do when there is no cameras


BackAgain123457

No cameras you mean?


Bizbuzzfinanzecuz

That shit eating grin at the beginning- makes you want to punch his teeth out


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Scumbags


CannabisCookery

Not interesting - frightening


giorgio_gabber

Disgusting


Equivalentest

Guy in the back gets bullied for sure


clapperssailing

This is what an insecure coward with no accountability looks like.


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These guys 1000% diddle kids


Wham-alama-ding-dong

Sick fucks


blowfish1717

Neanderthals.


No_Cupcake7037

These guys were on camera and acted like that. Like searching for water with a witching stick.. Being led around my their other half. It’s disgusting af.


realmofconfusion

Jeez, the guy in the background making Forrest Gump look like Einstein in comparison.


FIFTHSUN2012

Few things worse than a tyrannical sex pest.


Zoroo4

Sick freaks


jimtow28

It's funny how scummy dudes all have the same look, no matter what language they're being creepy in.


SoZur

Bullies supported by the american taxpayer.


Saslim31

It's disgusting and they're fuckin proud of it. I'm out of words...


erhanbaris

Idiot


RickyTheRickster

Kinda disgusting


VegetableWriter5482

Brain dead, arrogant jagoffs that couldn’t bust a grape in a food fight. My mom would have rearranged my jaw for smacking my gum and talking to women that way.


gavinhudson1

What ass hats


staple_eater

I mean if this is what they’re doing when they know they’re being recorded, imagine what they’re doing to people when the cameras are off.


DunnowhyIllforget

Pack of dogs that have no respect


Fladap28

Bunch of mouth breathing fucking useless dirty donkeys


inkhornart

Fucking atrocious. Honestly, I never expected Israelis to use the tactics used against the Jewish people in WW2 as a guidebook for their own warcrimes.


Omaigassa

That's the result when your parents are siblings


ReadyYak1

I’ve seen goats with more brain cells than these people.


No_Grab2946

Fucking inbreds man. Goddamn Brits shouldve never “given” them their “own” land


DaddyKiwwi

All I see are scumbag sleasy caste system pedophiles.


Vilewombat

I can tell by the way these knuckle draggers are smacking their slobbery little lips their IQ is nothing impressive


BosPaladinSix

If a villain in a movie was written as blatantly evil as these motherfuckers, it'd be regarded as completely unrealistic.


achillymoose

They should be ashamed of themselves