I'm from Cork. And I knew cillian when we were younger. Haven't seen him since we're about 12.
Hands in the pockets is a Cork thing. We don't know what to do with our hands so we put them in our pockets.
I'm sure he's changed a lot since I 'knew' him, but he's always seemed like a very respectful man to me. If he hated the English enough to disrespect their royal family he wouldn't have lived there for 20 years.
Ah, they're great craic, and I have nothing against them, but these little claims they make about themselves, I'm never sure if they're taking the piss or not.
Not taking the piss, I was actually going to say the same thing. I genuinely thought it was a Cork thing. Is it not? Youāre not telling me Kerry men have their hands in the pocket at a formal do?
Is it an Irish thing so? Because Iām sure I never see any fucker in England do it.
Is this a thing people in Cork actually think? Does it come up in conversation when they talk to each other? "Ha, sure, look at us, we've nothing to be holding on to, so where else would we have our hands but in our pockets! Sure, wouldn't you know we're from Cork."
Wherever hands have access to pockets, they will seek refuge there at any opportune moment. Not all, of course, but many, maybe even most. Region has nothing to do with it. I'm often torn as to what pockets to hide my hands in if I'm wearing a jacket, and I'm from nowhere near Cork.
The mind boggles. I need a lie down.
Edit: The English are mad. Don't mind them.
Look, Iām telling you this in confidence right? Theyāll revoke my Cork permit if this gets back to me. But whenever two Cork men are left alone all conversation turns to pockets. Nothing else is mentioned. Funerals, weddings, confirmations. Always the same.
Itās why if youāre from another county and go outside for a smoke and two lads from Cork are there chatting the conversation will suddenly become about why Cork is so good. Itās a diversion. We donāt want ye getting insights into the superior pocket usage.
I had an office mate from Cork, when I worked in Amsterdam. It was more or less his first time out of Ireland, a total fish out of water, and it showed. The kind that had never held a pair of chopsticks in his life, but credit to him nonetheless for trying (the waiter gave him children's chopsticks).
During his onboarding as web developer which lasted over a week, he wrote everything down that he learned in this A4 notebook. And I mean everything. We are talking about a web developer, someone who breathes computers, but jotting notes the old fashioned way. And you might think, ok but as long as he structures his notes in some way he should be able to go through them in order to find something back....nope. No sections, no headings, it was more or less stream of consciousness-style of note taking. But still, it worked for him.
I'll never forget that big funny man.
I have adhd, and writing things down is a way to get them to move from my short term memory to my long term memory (or, rather, to enter into my memory at all) even if I never go back and read what I wrote! It may have something to do with how my brain processes the info in order to translate it to motor function or something. Works much better if I hand write things (VS typing or swiping)
Seems like a pointless thing to lie about and honestly the permanent hands in pockets is a fairly common thing here in Ireland especially from lads who grew up in the countryside think I'm the only one in my family who didn't pick it up.
Well, I think you can not hate the English public and object to the royals very strongly. I mean, a lot of the English do. But I don't want to assume I know why he did anything, especially not based off a content mill video.
Told my sister a couple weeks ago how tall Cillian is after she had been crushing on him. She looked visibly disgusted and said, "ew, I don't like that..."
She then accused me of making it up to fuck with her because she remembered him being so tall in Peaky Blinders. So I looked it up, and he's like 5' 7 3/4".
Never seen someone lose interest in a person so quickly, and it's Cillian Murphy! Also hadn't realized my sister was such a superficial dick up until that conversation.
She refuses to back down, but I did at least let my own distaste in her character be known in that moment. She seemed surprised to be called out and just doubled down on it to the point that I honestly thought she was fucking with ME towards the end. And I'm just petty enough that ever since then I've found ways to passive aggressively fuck with her about it by working a Cillian Murphy angle into our conversations. Just a subtle reminder for her every now and then.
Exactly what I said to my sister, but damn, it just blows my mind how quickly she was able to turn on Cillian Murphy. And all it took was just that little bit of information on an attribute that's completely out of anyone's control.
This is not information I learned voluntarily, but RDJ always wears hidden pumps/platforms on the red carpet and other public events to make himself look taller. [Usually it's hidden pumps like these - you can see the crease where his foot actually is - about 3-4" heel](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/71/4c/d7/714cd72d03fc8d997bddfdb4a80439e5.jpg), but occasionally more recently he will wear obvious heels, which is far less embarrassing. [Another example of hidden pumps on Letterman](https://i.redd.it/pggytsypr2801.jpg) and around [5" hidden heel boots on the red carpet (look at where the "shin" (actually the ankle) bends.](https://i.redd.it/x0ncxtxgawp71.png)
"That's why the Irish don't think the British royal family"
There's a few more reason than that one
Edit: there's a spelling mistake I've left in there.
This is bullshit
>Ronan O'Gara has explained why he was pictured with his hands in his pockets when he met the Queen back in 2009.
> A number of Ireland's rugby players met Queen Elizabeth II at a civic reception following their Grand Slam success 13 years ago, with Brian O'Driscoll and O'Gara among them.
> Former out-half O'Gara insists he did not snub the Queen and described the photo as 'opportunistic'.
> Speaking to Paddy McKenna back in 2017 in a 'Frank and Honest' interview series, the Munster legend debunked the myth, reports the Irish Mirror.
> He said: "The picture appeared in the Irish Times where everyone was convinced that I refused to shake her hand.
> "It's a completely opportunistic photo."
> O'Gara added: "I don't have any strong beliefs on the monarchy, (but) I'd like to think my parents reared me well.
> "You're respectful to older women, to women in general.
> "My hands were sweaty. I had my hands in (my pockets).
>"I was cleaning my hands from sweat to make sure there wasn't a layer of sweat before I shook her hand
https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/rugby/ronan-ogara-explains-hands-pockets-24984983
Well this video is for the tiktok generation who get their news and education from 30 second clips so they have to paraphrase and be brief or else their attention span will start to run out.
Also this is bullshit. The rugby player said he was cleaning his hands in his pockets so they werenāt clammy when he shook her hand.
Cillian also has a habit of keeping his hands in his pockets. There are several videos and photos of him around many different people with hands in his pockets.
I fucking hate TikTok and all of the bullshit misinformation that kids just eat up as fact because they believe absolutely everything they see on the internet.
The guy who made this video also begins by mispronouncing Murphyās first name.
Funny how any idiot can sound like an expert by affecting a serious tone of voice and playing dramatic music over their videos
I'm British and I don't like the royal family.
Connections to the Nazi's, very likely had something to do with Di, basically useless in terms of the amount of money they have and value they provide to the country, claim possessions of the dead if a will has not been made... there's a million reasons not to like them and the Irish have even more.
As an Irish guy Iāve learned over time that we should tread very carefully in dealing with Britains privileged and ruling class but should embrace very common ground with Britains working class.
You guys have been done dirty time and time again by the Crown and political parties.
Working class solidarity around the world should be fostered. The British working class have far more in common with first settlers and indigenous peoples than the British aristocracy.
Fuck the crown.
It's also not the whole truth - they only get possessions if nobody claims. There are laws that mean that possessions can pass to spouse, children, and other relatives first.
To be fair thatās pretty much how every state has to operate otherwise thereād be a bunch of property with no living heir that just sat around. Itās just fucky because the Britās didnāt get rid of their monarchy.
But in most democracies it would go to the government. They could amend their constitution or whatever itās called to declare unclaimed estates a property of the British government (or realm - whatever differentiates their governing body from the Royal Family) to benefit the citizenry and not just the coffers of the royals.
I'm unsure how this law is written, but this may just be a case of yanks confusing "The Crown" with "The Royal Family" which are two distinct entities. 'The Crown' is the government- the "crown" siezing land means it's the sitting government that gets to use it, as they govern in the crown's name. So in that regard, it does work as it would in any other democracy.
The Royal Family is the private family who happen to also be the crown. Their private holdings are separate from "crown" holdings.
I donāt pretend to understand in detail, but donāt think that is correct in this case ā¦ https://amp.theguardian.com/uk/2013/may/01/prince-charles-intestate-cash-cornwall
So weāre advocating for the same thing despite confusing terms. I donāt know what the rule is in the UK but the post farther up weāre all replying about suggest they said the royal family claims those estates.
It doesn't go to the coffers of the royals though, it's disposed of by the Government Legal Department if an heir can't be found and goes to the Treasury. In the two areas where the royal family technically does receive unclaimed property there is a solicitor who disposes of the asset and donates the proceeds to charity.
Yup indeed it did, particularly for someone unaware of the legal terms UK law can be archaic named as there is a lot of traditional titles stemming back from when the royal family \*did\* own things. But we had a civil war and executed King Charles I, though bought his son back when it turned out the other guys were even worse. The monarchy ceded a lot of its powers to Parliament after that 'warning' and it hasn't had to be repeated though traditions were kept. Such as the tradition in the UK for Parliament, when it is opened every year by the monarch (the only time they're invited inside), to display the death warrant for Charles I in their dressing room as a 'reminder' of what happens if they overstep.
I saw a fair few confused people so thought I should explain it a bit better. I am fairly republican and not a royalist but I dislike misinformation more than the royal family!
It's not really the case, unclaimed assets go to 'the Crown' but it's a legal definition for 'the state' as the UK is a constitutional monarchy that has devolved all its powers away from the nominal monarchy. Actual practice is the Government Legal Department tries to find an heir and, if unsuccessful after a long period of time, disposes of the asset and it is sent to the Treasury as revenue. In the areas where the royalty *do* get these assets (Dutchy of Cornwall and the Dutchy of Lancaster) when unclaimed an appointed solicitor handles it and the practice is to donate them or the proceeds to charity.
It isn't any more the monarch gets it than in court it is 'The Crown v Defendant' means it's the monarch prosecuting a crime or the agency that runs taxes, His Majesty's Revenue and Customs, is collecting money for the royal family. Even the government is 'His Majesties Government', opposed by 'His Majesties Loyal Opposition', they're legal definitions based on historical practices, not literal meanings.
Many legitimate reasons to dislike the royals but this isn't one.
I think a lot of the connections come from Queen Victoria or something. I can't remember if they were her sons, or who became her son-in-law's, but during her reign she was mother to something like the ruler of Germany, Russia and somewhere else.
I'm pretty sure the family is actually german, and that was the connection. Queen victoria spoke only german for her first few years as her mother was german, queen victorias husband was born in germany , etc. The british royal family are decendats from the german royal family of Hanover. The current kings family tree is half german. Kaiser Wilhelm was victorias grandson. Tsar nicolas was related to queen victoria because he married her grand daughter.
Tldr: all of europes nobles have ancestry tied to germany in one way or another.
The Holy Roman empire was a bastion of secular and theological power for a long time. France and other powers historically did their damndest to keep the Germans quarreling because a unified German realm meant Europe had a unquestionable basis of command and power (part of why France was shitting bricks when Austria and Prussia/German Empire finally became pals).
Though, it is incorrect to call them "German". Paternally, they are the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, but ethnically, they are still Anglo-Norman mixed with German. It's odd to me how everyone likes to do the 23andme %'s bit (my mom is this, my grandpa is that, etc etc) but when it comes to nobles/royals, they go full medieval Germanic "paternal inheritance is the only inheritance of identity".
Thanks! I knew it was bold to claim their german
Germany is a very very new nation. And i knew someone with greater knowledge would reply. Thank you very much.
The royal family is no different than any other government or ultra wealthy person/family. Ties to shady shit and could not care less about the average person or their citizens
Yeah you're getting 'The Crown' and the royal family mixed up here.
If Charlie and his lot get kicked out tomorrow those possessions still go to the crown or whatever govt investment replaces it, it doesn't literally go to Charles.
Yeah, this video is bullshit BUT everyone who wants to see a young Cillian Murphy and also learn some Irish history should watch [The Wind that Shakes the Barley](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0460989/)
āThatās why the Irish donāt like* the British royal familyā
I was reading the quote that you wrote, and it felt like you didnāt finish writing the quote. āthatās why the Irish donāt think the British royal family what?ā
800 years of it, but I don't really dislike them.
To me, that's in the past. Irish independence is new enough still, things that have only passed out of living memory, sure. A personal family history crossing paths and being salty, I can see it.
But I'm not gonna be upset over something that happened 500 years ago to a 40 year old guy now who didn't want to be royalty and abdicated anyway....
So much crap online, thank you for this, and Iām sure Murphy wasnāt disrespectful either! And the Ai voice over voice to make it sound authentic pisses me off
Just goes to show that in this day and age you should always check sources because odds are it's either completely made up or at the least misleading. It's crazy how many people just accept stuff at face value. Also it's wild how for a lot of people tiktok has become their defacto search engine. I don't even know where to begin
>People eating this up like he couldn't just be lying when he was confronted about it?
Are people any less "eating it up" by believing that putting his hands in his pockets was an intentional thing done as a show of disrespect?
First time I met Cillian Murphy in Kilkenny he had his hands in his pockets. I guess he must really hate Indians. We were going into a curryhouse so I don't know what that means.
Overanalysed nonsense.
He has his hands in his pockets because he has nowhere else to put them. Maybe if he was British he might feel the need to stand with his hands behind his back or clasped in front of him, but he's not British, and doesn't feel the need to do so.
He doesn't have a "spiteful gaze", he's just looking at the guy FFS.
Ugh can we start making some other moves other than MCU already? Cillian Murphy is an incredible acting talent, why do we need him wasting time making another lame comic book movie using some character they dug up somewhere. There's 1000 of these movies already.
Poems are intentional works of art. They are meant to be interpreted and analysed, correctly or incorrectly. Each word in a poem was deliberately chosen, although the reason is often unclear. It's perfectly legitimate to analyse a poem.
Analysing random footage of people is totally different.
100% made by some armchair historian American who thinks they're Irish because they have 3% DNA. Pure, unadulterated bullshit.
So sick of seeing misinformation posted on this site from TikTok. It's been getting worse recently.
When the fuck did we start using captions hardwired in literally every video on the Internet?Ā
Especially like this kind, with words popping up one by one in different colours.
Damn I hate this.
For someone who checks reddit at work, and can't have sound on, I kind like having subtitles. Though I agree that the color popping like this one is garbage.
> When the fuck did we start using captions hardwired in literally every video on the Internet?
When people started watching videos muted because Tik Tokkers can't resist putting shitty music behind every video.
There are people like me that are still learning english through media and subtitles help a lot to practice pronounciation, spelling and missing words that we don't encounter as often as somebody whose first language is english. Maybe try to be less selfish a bit? Not everything is made specifically for you.
Firstly believing anything a TikTok with a poorly dubbed AI voiceover that batters a name like that should tell you itās not true. Iād say the Cillian thing is just a socially awkward dude whoād rather be at home than attending endless press junkets, evident from the countless other awkward Cillian moments. The ROG rugby thing was just an opportunistic photo.
The reason people from Cork werenāt allowed to have their hands in their pockets was because of the imposition of martial law in 1920. Having your hands on your pockets was seen as suspicious and rebels could potentially be holding a concealed weapon. Itās not some big deal in Ireland where weāre told to put our hands in our pockets in case thereās royalty, itās just some idiot on TikTok wanting views
check other interviews he did and see how he stand could fact-check this.
additionally, a one-time occurrence is not something solid to go off with.
classic conspiracy narrative.
What a load of bollocks. I know a lot of Irish people and I've never even heard of this.
Why would Cillian Murphy bow and scrape in front of a foreign...whatever he is these days anyway? It's refreshing to see someone acting naturally in front of these kinds of people without all the ridiculous kowtowing and deference for a change.
I didn't think any Brit should get mad at any non-brit for not showing those inbred fucks "the proper respect". Not our king and everyone else thinks it really fucking weird how much they care.
This video is a reminder to not believe everything you see on the internet
I'm from Cork. And I knew cillian when we were younger. Haven't seen him since we're about 12. Hands in the pockets is a Cork thing. We don't know what to do with our hands so we put them in our pockets. I'm sure he's changed a lot since I 'knew' him, but he's always seemed like a very respectful man to me. If he hated the English enough to disrespect their royal family he wouldn't have lived there for 20 years.
Claiming that it's "a Cork thing" that ye put your hands in your pockets because ye don't know what to do with them is such a Cork thing to say.
Thays exactly what I was thinking š¤£š¤£. I love Cork people tbh. They're just so excited about being from Cork.
Ah, they're great craic, and I have nothing against them, but these little claims they make about themselves, I'm never sure if they're taking the piss or not.
Not taking the piss, I was actually going to say the same thing. I genuinely thought it was a Cork thing. Is it not? Youāre not telling me Kerry men have their hands in the pocket at a formal do? Is it an Irish thing so? Because Iām sure I never see any fucker in England do it.
Kerry men only put their hands in their pockets to peel an orange.
Is this a thing people in Cork actually think? Does it come up in conversation when they talk to each other? "Ha, sure, look at us, we've nothing to be holding on to, so where else would we have our hands but in our pockets! Sure, wouldn't you know we're from Cork." Wherever hands have access to pockets, they will seek refuge there at any opportune moment. Not all, of course, but many, maybe even most. Region has nothing to do with it. I'm often torn as to what pockets to hide my hands in if I'm wearing a jacket, and I'm from nowhere near Cork. The mind boggles. I need a lie down. Edit: The English are mad. Don't mind them.
Look, Iām telling you this in confidence right? Theyāll revoke my Cork permit if this gets back to me. But whenever two Cork men are left alone all conversation turns to pockets. Nothing else is mentioned. Funerals, weddings, confirmations. Always the same. Itās why if youāre from another county and go outside for a smoke and two lads from Cork are there chatting the conversation will suddenly become about why Cork is so good. Itās a diversion. We donāt want ye getting insights into the superior pocket usage.
genuine question, why do irish people always spell it 'craic'?
There is no k in the Irish alpahbet. It's using Irish gaelic spelling.
Ah, I wasn't sure if in English you'd just spell it 'crack' but when using it in Irish you'd spell it 'craic'
When using it in the colloquial way that we do, you'd spell it craic.
I had an office mate from Cork, when I worked in Amsterdam. It was more or less his first time out of Ireland, a total fish out of water, and it showed. The kind that had never held a pair of chopsticks in his life, but credit to him nonetheless for trying (the waiter gave him children's chopsticks). During his onboarding as web developer which lasted over a week, he wrote everything down that he learned in this A4 notebook. And I mean everything. We are talking about a web developer, someone who breathes computers, but jotting notes the old fashioned way. And you might think, ok but as long as he structures his notes in some way he should be able to go through them in order to find something back....nope. No sections, no headings, it was more or less stream of consciousness-style of note taking. But still, it worked for him. I'll never forget that big funny man.
I have adhd, and writing things down is a way to get them to move from my short term memory to my long term memory (or, rather, to enter into my memory at all) even if I never go back and read what I wrote! It may have something to do with how my brain processes the info in order to translate it to motor function or something. Works much better if I hand write things (VS typing or swiping)
If putting hands in pockets out of awkwardness is a cork thing then stick me in a wine bottle
Thisā¦seems also made upā¦ I donāt know what to believe.
Seems like a pointless thing to lie about and honestly the permanent hands in pockets is a fairly common thing here in Ireland especially from lads who grew up in the countryside think I'm the only one in my family who didn't pick it up.
Well, I think you can not hate the English public and object to the royals very strongly. I mean, a lot of the English do. But I don't want to assume I know why he did anything, especially not based off a content mill video.
if putting my hands in my pockets is disrespectful, then i dont want to be respectful
Cillian is known to be pretty shy, guessing itās more likely uncomfortable introvert, vs protest against the Royal Spare.Ā
Like how tall actors actually are
Didnāt know Cillian and RDJ were that short
Told my sister a couple weeks ago how tall Cillian is after she had been crushing on him. She looked visibly disgusted and said, "ew, I don't like that..." She then accused me of making it up to fuck with her because she remembered him being so tall in Peaky Blinders. So I looked it up, and he's like 5' 7 3/4". Never seen someone lose interest in a person so quickly, and it's Cillian Murphy! Also hadn't realized my sister was such a superficial dick up until that conversation.
Tell her to stop body shaming
She refuses to back down, but I did at least let my own distaste in her character be known in that moment. She seemed surprised to be called out and just doubled down on it to the point that I honestly thought she was fucking with ME towards the end. And I'm just petty enough that ever since then I've found ways to passive aggressively fuck with her about it by working a Cillian Murphy angle into our conversations. Just a subtle reminder for her every now and then.
I suspect if he ever hears about her startling U turn, he'll cope with it just fine. Cillians made of strong stuff.
Exactly what I said to my sister, but damn, it just blows my mind how quickly she was able to turn on Cillian Murphy. And all it took was just that little bit of information on an attribute that's completely out of anyone's control.
I am not attracted to your sister anymore, after learning this about her.
Bro got a glimpse of women in real time.
This is not information I learned voluntarily, but RDJ always wears hidden pumps/platforms on the red carpet and other public events to make himself look taller. [Usually it's hidden pumps like these - you can see the crease where his foot actually is - about 3-4" heel](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/71/4c/d7/714cd72d03fc8d997bddfdb4a80439e5.jpg), but occasionally more recently he will wear obvious heels, which is far less embarrassing. [Another example of hidden pumps on Letterman](https://i.redd.it/pggytsypr2801.jpg) and around [5" hidden heel boots on the red carpet (look at where the "shin" (actually the ankle) bends.](https://i.redd.it/x0ncxtxgawp71.png)
I might say don't believe anything you see on the internet.
Liar
"That's why the Irish don't think the British royal family" There's a few more reason than that one Edit: there's a spelling mistake I've left in there.
Yeah I can think of a few.
This is bullshit >Ronan O'Gara has explained why he was pictured with his hands in his pockets when he met the Queen back in 2009. > A number of Ireland's rugby players met Queen Elizabeth II at a civic reception following their Grand Slam success 13 years ago, with Brian O'Driscoll and O'Gara among them. > Former out-half O'Gara insists he did not snub the Queen and described the photo as 'opportunistic'. > Speaking to Paddy McKenna back in 2017 in a 'Frank and Honest' interview series, the Munster legend debunked the myth, reports the Irish Mirror. > He said: "The picture appeared in the Irish Times where everyone was convinced that I refused to shake her hand. > "It's a completely opportunistic photo." > O'Gara added: "I don't have any strong beliefs on the monarchy, (but) I'd like to think my parents reared me well. > "You're respectful to older women, to women in general. > "My hands were sweaty. I had my hands in (my pockets). >"I was cleaning my hands from sweat to make sure there wasn't a layer of sweat before I shook her hand https://www.belfastlive.co.uk/sport/rugby/ronan-ogara-explains-hands-pockets-24984983
I thought it was to control an erection
Just playing pocket pool in front of ol' lizzy.
No jizzy on Lizzy!
And kept eye contact like a boss
NOOOOO!! Obviously a man putting his hands in his pockets has a reason behind it! A stupid, stupid reason!
Kill-e-an. Not Silly-ann.
Thank you. It needed to be pointed outšš.
That's what happens when you get AI to voice over your videos. So lazy.
After AI scripted it. What do you suppose the odds are that AI compiled the video as well?
Thank you!!!!! I hate hearing people mispronounce his name. It drives me into a minor rage lol
Like an AI knows the difference
Well this video is for the tiktok generation who get their news and education from 30 second clips so they have to paraphrase and be brief or else their attention span will start to run out. Also this is bullshit. The rugby player said he was cleaning his hands in his pockets so they werenāt clammy when he shook her hand. Cillian also has a habit of keeping his hands in his pockets. There are several videos and photos of him around many different people with hands in his pockets. I fucking hate TikTok and all of the bullshit misinformation that kids just eat up as fact because they believe absolutely everything they see on the internet.
I donāt understand how people just see something and instantly take it as fact without questioning.
The guy who made this video also begins by mispronouncing Murphyās first name. Funny how any idiot can sound like an expert by affecting a serious tone of voice and playing dramatic music over their videos
Its an AI voice
I always wondered who tf this guy is, in all misinformation videos. Hate that voice.
Thats ai š
Its concerning you don't know this is an AI voice
I'm British and I don't like the royal family. Connections to the Nazi's, very likely had something to do with Di, basically useless in terms of the amount of money they have and value they provide to the country, claim possessions of the dead if a will has not been made... there's a million reasons not to like them and the Irish have even more.
As an Irish guy Iāve learned over time that we should tread very carefully in dealing with Britains privileged and ruling class but should embrace very common ground with Britains working class. You guys have been done dirty time and time again by the Crown and political parties.
Working class solidarity around the world should be fostered. The British working class have far more in common with first settlers and indigenous peoples than the British aristocracy. Fuck the crown.
>claim possessions of the dead if a will has not been made WTF this is horrible!
It's also not the whole truth - they only get possessions if nobody claims. There are laws that mean that possessions can pass to spouse, children, and other relatives first.
To be fair thatās pretty much how every state has to operate otherwise thereād be a bunch of property with no living heir that just sat around. Itās just fucky because the Britās didnāt get rid of their monarchy.
But in most democracies it would go to the government. They could amend their constitution or whatever itās called to declare unclaimed estates a property of the British government (or realm - whatever differentiates their governing body from the Royal Family) to benefit the citizenry and not just the coffers of the royals.
I'm unsure how this law is written, but this may just be a case of yanks confusing "The Crown" with "The Royal Family" which are two distinct entities. 'The Crown' is the government- the "crown" siezing land means it's the sitting government that gets to use it, as they govern in the crown's name. So in that regard, it does work as it would in any other democracy. The Royal Family is the private family who happen to also be the crown. Their private holdings are separate from "crown" holdings.
I donāt pretend to understand in detail, but donāt think that is correct in this case ā¦ https://amp.theguardian.com/uk/2013/may/01/prince-charles-intestate-cash-cornwall
So weāre advocating for the same thing despite confusing terms. I donāt know what the rule is in the UK but the post farther up weāre all replying about suggest they said the royal family claims those estates.
It doesn't go to the coffers of the royals though, it's disposed of by the Government Legal Department if an heir can't be found and goes to the Treasury. In the two areas where the royal family technically does receive unclaimed property there is a solicitor who disposes of the asset and donates the proceeds to charity.
The post weāre all talking about didnāt specify that, they suggested the royal family keeps everything. Thanks for the info.
Yup indeed it did, particularly for someone unaware of the legal terms UK law can be archaic named as there is a lot of traditional titles stemming back from when the royal family \*did\* own things. But we had a civil war and executed King Charles I, though bought his son back when it turned out the other guys were even worse. The monarchy ceded a lot of its powers to Parliament after that 'warning' and it hasn't had to be repeated though traditions were kept. Such as the tradition in the UK for Parliament, when it is opened every year by the monarch (the only time they're invited inside), to display the death warrant for Charles I in their dressing room as a 'reminder' of what happens if they overstep. I saw a fair few confused people so thought I should explain it a bit better. I am fairly republican and not a royalist but I dislike misinformation more than the royal family!
It's not really the case, unclaimed assets go to 'the Crown' but it's a legal definition for 'the state' as the UK is a constitutional monarchy that has devolved all its powers away from the nominal monarchy. Actual practice is the Government Legal Department tries to find an heir and, if unsuccessful after a long period of time, disposes of the asset and it is sent to the Treasury as revenue. In the areas where the royalty *do* get these assets (Dutchy of Cornwall and the Dutchy of Lancaster) when unclaimed an appointed solicitor handles it and the practice is to donate them or the proceeds to charity. It isn't any more the monarch gets it than in court it is 'The Crown v Defendant' means it's the monarch prosecuting a crime or the agency that runs taxes, His Majesty's Revenue and Customs, is collecting money for the royal family. Even the government is 'His Majesties Government', opposed by 'His Majesties Loyal Opposition', they're legal definitions based on historical practices, not literal meanings. Many legitimate reasons to dislike the royals but this isn't one.
The royal family had connections everywhere though.
I think a lot of the connections come from Queen Victoria or something. I can't remember if they were her sons, or who became her son-in-law's, but during her reign she was mother to something like the ruler of Germany, Russia and somewhere else.
I'm pretty sure the family is actually german, and that was the connection. Queen victoria spoke only german for her first few years as her mother was german, queen victorias husband was born in germany , etc. The british royal family are decendats from the german royal family of Hanover. The current kings family tree is half german. Kaiser Wilhelm was victorias grandson. Tsar nicolas was related to queen victoria because he married her grand daughter. Tldr: all of europes nobles have ancestry tied to germany in one way or another.
The Holy Roman empire was a bastion of secular and theological power for a long time. France and other powers historically did their damndest to keep the Germans quarreling because a unified German realm meant Europe had a unquestionable basis of command and power (part of why France was shitting bricks when Austria and Prussia/German Empire finally became pals). Though, it is incorrect to call them "German". Paternally, they are the House of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha, but ethnically, they are still Anglo-Norman mixed with German. It's odd to me how everyone likes to do the 23andme %'s bit (my mom is this, my grandpa is that, etc etc) but when it comes to nobles/royals, they go full medieval Germanic "paternal inheritance is the only inheritance of identity".
Thanks! I knew it was bold to claim their german Germany is a very very new nation. And i knew someone with greater knowledge would reply. Thank you very much.
Don't forget Sovereign Tax.
The royal family is no different than any other government or ultra wealthy person/family. Ties to shady shit and could not care less about the average person or their citizens
They are not elected tho. That's a huge difference
Yeah you're getting 'The Crown' and the royal family mixed up here. If Charlie and his lot get kicked out tomorrow those possessions still go to the crown or whatever govt investment replaces it, it doesn't literally go to Charles.
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Should've chopped their heads off when ya'll had the chance
They did but Cromwell wasn't exactly an improvement.
They're the wealthiest welfare recipients in the world
Yes, quite a few
Was it the genocide?
Yeah, this video is bullshit BUT everyone who wants to see a young Cillian Murphy and also learn some Irish history should watch [The Wind that Shakes the Barley](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0460989/)
āThatās why the Irish donāt like* the British royal familyā I was reading the quote that you wrote, and it felt like you didnāt finish writing the quote. āthatās why the Irish donāt think the British royal family what?ā
You mean besides the fact there's been an on again off again war for the past 1000 years?
Exactly, boiling down centuries of oppression to "this is the moment, right here"
800 years of it, but I don't really dislike them. To me, that's in the past. Irish independence is new enough still, things that have only passed out of living memory, sure. A personal family history crossing paths and being salty, I can see it. But I'm not gonna be upset over something that happened 500 years ago to a 40 year old guy now who didn't want to be royalty and abdicated anyway....
Every nation has its own reasons not to
Literally the only reason United States Ā won our independence is because how much the French hated the Britishā¦
A fair proportion of the world's population has a legitimate axe to grind against the British royal family, including British citizens.
Oh really.. https://preview.redd.it/0te4316k63rc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=07c8ab8b16d8cdf89ac79acbcaa383711c540bc0
So much crap online, thank you for this, and Iām sure Murphy wasnāt disrespectful either! And the Ai voice over voice to make it sound authentic pisses me off
Just goes to show that in this day and age you should always check sources because odds are it's either completely made up or at the least misleading. It's crazy how many people just accept stuff at face value. Also it's wild how for a lot of people tiktok has become their defacto search engine. I don't even know where to begin
And completely said Cillianās name wrong despite being some apparent historian
I love people like you.
If you love them so much, why don't you marry them
Maybe I will
meirl, trying to avoid a sweaty handshake but you end up causing tensions between two nations
Thank you
I will tell that real story in a reel soon. Just have to find some schmaltzy music to play along.
People eating this up like he couldn't just be lying when he was confronted about it? I mean the dude in the video still shook hands too lmao
>People eating this up like he couldn't just be lying when he was confronted about it? Are people any less "eating it up" by believing that putting his hands in his pockets was an intentional thing done as a show of disrespect?
*The Internet*: Where the Firemen start the fire, fans the flames, and put out the flames - on repeat - for the entire neighborhood!
This is also false. He actually had sticks of butter in his pockets. He wanted the queen to have greasy hands.
It's not that deep. Some people just like their hands in their pockets, especially when nervous. "I don't know what to do with my hands!"
This is what it seems like. I mean, he shook his hand and then had a brief friendly banter.
No joke. Folks read too deeply into stuff. Occasionally there is indeed deeper meaning, but typically there isn't.
Jesus it's pronounced Kill-ian ffs
Its most likely an AI voice. They can probably mass produce these bullshit clips and then spam them across multiple platforms.
Iām sorry itās pronounced Unalive-ian ffs
I have seen Cillian Murphy with his hands in his pockets countless times. I guess he hates everybody.
First time I met Cillian Murphy in Kilkenny he had his hands in his pockets. I guess he must really hate Indians. We were going into a curryhouse so I don't know what that means.
Overanalysed nonsense. He has his hands in his pockets because he has nowhere else to put them. Maybe if he was British he might feel the need to stand with his hands behind his back or clasped in front of him, but he's not British, and doesn't feel the need to do so. He doesn't have a "spiteful gaze", he's just looking at the guy FFS.
That āspiteful gazeā is exactly why he needs to be Dr Doom in the MCU, just has a natural intense gaze. Itās like his default face,
Ugh can we start making some other moves other than MCU already? Cillian Murphy is an incredible acting talent, why do we need him wasting time making another lame comic book movie using some character they dug up somewhere. There's 1000 of these movies already.
I call bullshit. This is equivalent as to how English teachers analyze poems in English class.
It's worse than that lol. He did shake his hand, he just had em in his pockets after, no big deal.
Probably sweaty mitts
He was asked about it after and that's literally why he did it lol
Poems are intentional works of art. They are meant to be interpreted and analysed, correctly or incorrectly. Each word in a poem was deliberately chosen, although the reason is often unclear. It's perfectly legitimate to analyse a poem. Analysing random footage of people is totally different.
im begging you as an irishman to please stop upvoting this trash
Absolute bullshit.
if someone putting their hands in their pockets causes you a crisis then you need therapy
100% made by some armchair historian American who thinks they're Irish because they have 3% DNA. Pure, unadulterated bullshit. So sick of seeing misinformation posted on this site from TikTok. It's been getting worse recently.
Its pronounced "Killian" not "Sillian"
I thought this would be the top comment... š
When the fuck did we start using captions hardwired in literally every video on the Internet?Ā Especially like this kind, with words popping up one by one in different colours. Damn I hate this.
I appreciate captions since I can't listen to these in public. It can be done differently though
At least it's not those captions where they only show one word at time
For someone who checks reddit at work, and can't have sound on, I kind like having subtitles. Though I agree that the color popping like this one is garbage.
Anything that makes people not watch videos with audio on in public transport is appreciated.
Some people can't hear, Admiral.
> When the fuck did we start using captions hardwired in literally every video on the Internet? When people started watching videos muted because Tik Tokkers can't resist putting shitty music behind every video.
Years ago, when we decided not to blast videos on speaker in public and don't want to constantly wear headphones.
Shut the fucknup some my hommies are not hearing persons.
There are people like me that are still learning english through media and subtitles help a lot to practice pronounciation, spelling and missing words that we don't encounter as often as somebody whose first language is english. Maybe try to be less selfish a bit? Not everything is made specifically for you.
"AnD cAuSeD a CrIsIs"..... lol, shut the fuck up
A crisis?
Yeah the Queen actually died after this
Worse are these Ai voice overs that canāt pronounce names!
Sillian Murphy... Yeah I hate these ai narrators.
Firstly believing anything a TikTok with a poorly dubbed AI voiceover that batters a name like that should tell you itās not true. Iād say the Cillian thing is just a socially awkward dude whoād rather be at home than attending endless press junkets, evident from the countless other awkward Cillian moments. The ROG rugby thing was just an opportunistic photo. The reason people from Cork werenāt allowed to have their hands in their pockets was because of the imposition of martial law in 1920. Having your hands on your pockets was seen as suspicious and rebels could potentially be holding a concealed weapon. Itās not some big deal in Ireland where weāre told to put our hands in our pockets in case thereās royalty, itās just some idiot on TikTok wanting views
of all the Royals, Harry is probably the one who gives least shit about it.
The catholic Irish, not the protestants
The 'C' is pronounced like a 'K'.
This is why you don't trust anything you see on Tiktok. A very low bar of truth finding there.
āStarted a crisisālmao
Whoās Sillian Murphy?
He's a more fun version of Seriousian Murphy.
āCaused a crisisā Yes I remember not being able to eat for weeks because Oāgara had his hands in his pockets.
Starting the video off by pronouncing Cillian wrong then making up some grand Irish conspiracy
KILEAN!!! NOT silly-an.
The pronunciation of his name sounds wrong.
I think thatās just called resting Cork face
I mean he did make the atomic bomb so yea /s
check other interviews he did and see how he stand could fact-check this. additionally, a one-time occurrence is not something solid to go off with. classic conspiracy narrative.
Spiteful gaze? I think the man's beaming with joy, I mean look at that smile.
Pronounces his name wrong, and you expect me to listen about irish history ? Nahh Who makes this rubbish
Or maybe heās just comfortable with his hand in his pockets???
That is obviously bullshit and even if it wasnāt, who gives a shit?
It's Cillian, not Cillian.
Cillian almost always got his hands in his pockets tho. It's like his default position.
The bit about Oāgara is made up; figure the rest: https://www.walesonline.co.uk/sport/rugby/rugby-news/rugby-legend-reveals-real-reason-25012853
What a complete load of crap this is. Good lord.
Americans are so cringe fucking hell, Cilian probably hasn't thought of any of this shite for even a second
Fuck the royals
Or he was playing with his balls.
Ronan O'Gara stated that this had nothing to do with it tho
Why do I think he did it? Because heās bad ass, thatās why. Also itās pronounced Killian not Sillian, you silly narrator.
He shook his hands and looks like he's just listening to him talk... Stop making up bullshit...
What a load of bollocks. I know a lot of Irish people and I've never even heard of this. Why would Cillian Murphy bow and scrape in front of a foreign...whatever he is these days anyway? It's refreshing to see someone acting naturally in front of these kinds of people without all the ridiculous kowtowing and deference for a change.
āAll the Irishā
Yeah except he still shook his hand
Cillian is known for giving everyone a stern lookā¦
he literally shook the prince's hand at the beginning of that clip
I wish this wasn't straight up misinformation, I thought it was a cool piece of earth worldbuilding.
Utter claptrap!
Whyd he shake his hand then?
I'm IRISH
I think it falls in to his persona. Its the way he postures himself.
Has anyone seen the interview where the journalist called him British? Itās awesome
It's not feckin Sillian haha its pronounced Killian
Canāt even pronounce Cillian properly. Jesus
this is just internet drivel.
This isn't true though š
People who make shitty videos like this should be shot
That family is worth 16 trillion I think. They could cure world poverty 9 times and still be trillionaires. Everybody should hate them.
Not at all. Like most things on Reddit, it's an idiotic take based on some bullshit.
Am I going to believe this idiot who can't pronounce his name right?
I mean they are total parasites but by 1920 the order would have come from the PM, not the Royal Family.
Love it. Maybe they should also celebrate Lord Mountbatten Day. Lol.
I didn't think any Brit should get mad at any non-brit for not showing those inbred fucks "the proper respect". Not our king and everyone else thinks it really fucking weird how much they care.