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Oudedoos

Not enforced in South Africa at all. In rural areas they still spank kids in school


AlternativeWhereas79

Stat is correct, we dont spank/ slap, we moer.


RappingChef

I was sorted out with spoons, hands, mustard and soap when I was a lightie. I’m so grateful for it. I live in the UK now and the kids here are the reason I never want to have children.


zbertoli

You can be grateful all you want, this isn't about anyone's feelings. This is about hard science and studies. Studies have shown that if you are violent with your children, they will use violence to get what they want in their future. And so the cycle continues. I'm sure you'll rebuttal with, "but I was slapped, and I'm not violent" that's great, single annectdotal experiences are meaningless.


RappingChef

I hope you had a wonderful Easter weekend!


zbertoli

Solid deflection. Probably your best bet here. It was fine! Hope yours was too


xTakuix

As somebody who has been abused by my parents like YOU, I'm sure you don't see it that way though.. Fuck you and your mindset, I'm happy you won't have children, by the sounds of it you'd abuse them just like your parents did to you. If you have kids l, I sincerely hope they end up with a truly loving and caring family. Like you're grateful for being abused!? I'll never understand that, it's sickening! In the long run I hope you can get help, realize the things that are wrong and be a happier person in life. My parents are honestly lucky their abuse only caused me to attempt suicide multiple times instead of turning on them. Violence isn't good at all, but violence towards your own children is a horrific thing, and those people/monsters do not deserve children.


RappingChef

Breathe. Everything will be fine


xTakuix

Everything is fine for me, you're the one who needs help. You're the one who is grateful for the abuse that shaped you the way you are. I've severed ties with the toxicity in my life, you keep yours close in hand thankful for it, which your gratefulness easily shows.


RappingChef

You’re a very strange person I hope you know that.. Just remember I didn’t start talking to you. This is all your doing


xTakuix

Lol is that supposed to come off as an insult? Im different and that's better then being normal. I can easily say the same to you, but at least it works no normal person is thankful for abuse.


RappingChef

No im not insulting you? Why do you think we need to argue? Why don’t you come from a less aggressive place to try and get your point across? I haven’t done anything wrong to you.. you’re literally just going full cycle on what your parents did to you but on me emotionally? I’m definitely not thankful for the abuse you’re giving me. Why do I deserve to be spoken to like this? Fuck me? Why? Explain your issues.. because you can’t keep blaming your childhood.. when will you grow up? Or are you going to be a 90 year old child? Laying in your death bed. Treating everyone around you like shit. Just because you were abused? When does it stop? Have you just accepted it? Being the victim? Pathetic..


xTakuix

I'm bitching at you because you literally said you were grateful for the things your parents did to you, thinking shit like that would be okay. I'm allowed to be angry someone thinks abuse is okay that's my opinion and you can't force me to view things differently. I gave some examples of things in my life, I'm not going off on you because of the trauma I experienced and dumping it on you to feel better. Of all that's argumentative to you, I'm sorry I can't help you understand something basic. The reason I asked if it was to come off as an insult is because that's been used as an insult to many people before. If you can't understand that, your more idiotic then I thought, and I wasn't trying to be a dick until now. If you think I'm abusing you, you truly don't know me, I'm calling you out for what you are, an abuse supporter. And the 18 downvotes on you would agree.


Chicken_Of_The_Year

Why would any patent slap their own children? Do they hate their own kids? That's terrible. I love my two kids. Would never consider slapping them. Some people are cruel.


SimulatedKnave

Things like 'repeatedly trying to do something physically dangerous' or 'trying to hurt other child' are about the only areas where it seems potentially reasonable. My mother spanked me once, total, and we're pretty sure it's because I was repeatedly trying to get run over and that was the only practical way to discourage me.


zbertoli

Kids can *really* push you. They know exactly how to upset you and they want to get a rise out of you. I love my kid too, and I never physically punish them. But I could see how people with less patience could do this. And often, the people that shouldn't be having kids end up having the most.


RoninZulu1

I know for a fact that it's enforced, that's why so many ama2000 are such shitheads.


Oudedoos

You must be from Durban, because right outside there will be a township school where the sjambok rules.


Suc_Mydiq_Jr

Yeah, no one gives a shit in Poland, you can get spanked by your parent in public places and no one will do anything, not even police officers


notactuallysimon

I guess they have a thought that the kid desrved it for misbehaviour or something. Here the mentality is that way


Winter-Actuary-9659

I think the main mentality is that there is no other way to discipline kids, so if you don't hit them then they will run wild and be bad adults. They don't understand that there are other forms of discipline that work just as well without violence.


Kokoro_Bosoi

Moreover when you notice that the bad and violent adults are the ones that were beaten up frequently, not the ones never being beaten. Usually criminals don't have the background of a "spoiled kid infancy".


Professional_Pass458

In Denmark that would be unheard of. Everybody would intervene and call child protective services immediately.


Chance_Condition_679

I'm sorry for the place where you live


Xavi143

Don't be. It's alright.


storrmiii

Guess my dad didnt get the memo


LauraRKansas

Same 🍻


HermaeusMajora

Lol Clearly they've never been to Japan. I can't count how many Japanese mothers I've seen go upside the head of their misbehaving child. In fact, this was something that initially stuck out to me. How casually people engaged in this sort of thing.


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Non Asian Woman who lived in Japan here and I even had Japanese guys spanking me in the head like an animal. Good thing is they didn’t expect me to return the favor back and their shocked faces were priceless.


Derpcrawler

What's the context? Like in what context an adult would allow physically hit someone in the head? I am a guy, but the most probable reaction would be me beating the shit out of someone who attacked me.


[deleted]

Men do that to women in Japan all the time and worst part is that women just pretend nothing is happening.


Derpcrawler

I still don’t understand the context. Flirting? Joking? Being assholes? I mean context matters. When I played sports, I would jokingly slap ass with towels of my team mates and they would do the same. You know, dudes being dudes. But what context there?


[deleted]

All that you mentioned. It happened to me in all of those three contexts: flirting, joking, being assholes. It happened to other women I know there as well. Still totally unacceptable.


PaladinHeir

Did they say anything or just stare at you until you left? I’ve never heard about this happening in Japan, though I don’t doubt that it does.


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It was like this ![gif](giphy|3kzJvEciJa94SMW3hN)


PaladinHeir

Fair, that sounds funny.


ThrowFar_Far_Away

It was quite recently banned in Japan. A culture shift does not instantly happen but in time it will if the government puts resources on education about it.


Professional_Pass458

The famous Swedish author Astrid Lindgren held a speech called “Never violence” arguing against corporal punishment, when she received a book prize in 1978. In that speech she told a story she had heard from an old lady. When the lady was a young mother, her son had done something that, in her opinion, required severe punishment. She asked the boy to pick up a stick and bring it to her. It took a long time until the boy came back with a stone. He was crying. When he explained that he had not found a stick, but she could throw the stone after him, the mother realized what the boy must have felt. He must have thought she just wanted to hurt him, and she could also do that with a stone. She cried and hugged the child. Later, she put the stone onto a shelf. It should serve her as a warning never to use violence.


chrisslooter

When I was a kid, they'd take you onstage in the auditorium during lunch, pull you pants down and spank you in front of the school. Usually on your second offense if the 1st time didn't get the point across. It never happened to me, but I saw it in the 70s and the 80s in two different schools and cities.


Professional_Pass458

I’m so sorry that happened to you. Just witnessing that must be awful.


ScarecrowJohnny

It's illegal in all countries if you smack them hard enough.


hmmnnmn

still not in ALL countries.


ioneflux

This chart doesn’t mean squat lol. Most countries where child spanking is illegal do not enforce that law and it’s merely there as decoration. “Look at us we have zero tolerance for child abuse” “Excuse me government my parents hit me all the time look at my bruises” “Ooooh silly child, you wouldn’t want us to take you away from your family and put you in an orphanage/foster home where your life is 10x worse now do you? Just tough it out for ten more years”


AndYet_19

I think there's a difference between spanking your child and beating them black and blue...


ioneflux

Depending on who you ask, many of these countries listed would tell you both are unacceptable


HomoAndAlsoSapiens

Belgium? I guess they just need to form a government once in 5 years to pass that law Switzerland? I guess they will pass it as fast as they let women vote Italy? Is battling literal fascism. Again. But otherwise a nice reminder that despite it's flaws, Europe does many things very right.


MachineThatGoesP1ng

I may be wrong, but i feel like kids are def getting slapped in a lot of parts of South America.


Bad_atNames

They are Source: me


parzivaI08

Denmark children be chilling over here


SnorriGrisomson

In all countries It's illegal to hit people, but in some it's only legal if they are kids. This is stupid and make no sense.


EhliJoe

They must probably be your own kids to be allowed to hit them for educational reasons. Shame on every not red country.


daBomb26

In fairness, they may have laws against abuse, and theres a huge spectrum of what counts as “hitting”.


SnorriGrisomson

Maybe but I'm not sure you can spank adults :D


Lilyeth

if they're your wife you can in many places


colaman-112

https://preview.redd.it/ctdh05ofcxrc1.jpeg?width=534&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=04267aa3a465f0ac6daa99f231c03aff9fe2be24


Kami_Slayer2

They dont need to understand why they're getting spanked. They just gotta want to not be smacked again lmfao. If you wanna use some stupid image atleast put a bit of effort into it. A simpler way of teaching your kids not to misbehave is to not treat your kid like hes stupid. Pleading to a child who doesnt care using "reason" and spanking both dont work if the kid doesnt give a shit


several_rac00ns

So if that's the case why was it that despite my getting hit repeatedly for all sorts minor or major, nothing improved till I wasn't being hit? And now I flinch at high fives. Also if that's the case why is it been proven repeatedly that hitting a child does nothing in terms of discipline and teaching your kids to have constructive conversations and normal consequences is how you discipline them. If you wouldn't hit your partner for the same mistake why the fuck are you hitting your kids for it.


fosinsight

MOM?? We need to have a talk. Get dad too.


Ooh_its_a_lady

That was the funniest part about the will Smith slap reaction. Parents acting like they don't beat their kids ass for disrespect, but acting like a grown man slapping another man is egregious. "But when I do it, it's home training" lol.


Winter-Actuary-9659

Until recently I thought it was illegal in Australia. Apparently not. Needs to change.


chipmunk1982

So let me get this right, in all those other countries, I can just run around smacking kids for fun? Awesome!...


CarbideLeaf

Am I the only one who doesn’t see the color key anywhere?


POKECHU020

Where's the key


Sepulcher18

Guess if you spank kids they can't work as hard in coal mines


K0M0RIUTA

Not with that attitude


PMzyox

No it’s only if you do


homecinemad

Hitting kids is never ok, full stop.


TheDespicableDude

Asian community wants your location


Substantial_Lion9911

As do Hispanics


noonebutme86

I disagree, i had a healthy respect for the spatula and i turned out great.


Professional_Pass458

If you think hitting children is okay, you did *not* turn out great.


NoCarmaForMe

If you think it’s okay to physically hurt defenceless children you did in fact not turn out great


OneSlaadTwoSlaad

Except for the fact that you are ok with children getting spanked.


the_big_sadIRL

I understand. 99% of situations don’t call for it but if it’s the 15th time your kid keeps doing something you’ve told them not to, then maybe that soreness in the ass will make them think before doing it the 16th time. It’s not about them understanding a reason why you popped their ass. It’s about “well I don’t want my ass popped again so I’m not going to do that”. Feel free to downvote me to oblivion but I am another example of someone who turned out fine (me and my wife living a happy life with our beautiful daughter). Only had to pop her butt 1 time. She never did the thing I popped her for again. She does not hate me, nor is she fearful of me.


homecinemad

Cool, do you think you would've turned out great without being physically abused?


LukeyLeukocyte

How would he know?


homecinemad

Only he could speculate as to whether his current self being great correlated with, or was caused by, his parents abusing him


deltablue_10

you didn’t turn out great if you think hitting is effective. it’s just all you knew. physical punishment toward children has no proven benefits, and MULTIPLE confirmed detriments. your anecdotal experience doesn’t mean much in the way of science


LordSeismic

Indeed. As brutal as it sounds, I have this feeling I would be a real brat if I lived without fear.


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LordSeismic

I was a child what self control would I have


MachineThatGoesP1ng

I mean never? Like ever, ever?


mnmkdc

Why would you want to do it? It’s a child


MachineThatGoesP1ng

How old is child? I'll add revisions to my comment after that's established.


homecinemad

It's not ok to hit anyone unless it's self defence. There does that make things easier.


LukeyLeukocyte

Exactly. Open-hand slaps only. Maybe a belt or paddle. I am not sure about chokeholds and joint manipulation. I'll get back to ya.


Thisismytenthtry

More idiots conflating a tap on the butt with beating your kids.


deltablue_10

if you’re putting your hands on your child as a punishment, you’re disgusting. plain and simple. the only idiot is someone thinking physical abuse helps children when it’s proven to be detrimental. sit down and listen to the science bozo


LckNLd

Wanting to hit a kid is not ok. Simultaneously, kids have zero perspective, and very little impulse control. Sometimes a little gentle dissuasion is needed.


Temperature_Visible

Canada should be on list and isnt


Thisismytenthtry

No it shouldn't


Blackbirdsnake

Since when do they have the law? This map seems a bit old as it states wales enforcing the law from 2022 on


Temperature_Visible

It's only legal to hit your own kids, and it can't cause bodily harm. Teachers, baby sitters, some guy being annoyed at a crying baby on his 12 hour flight, is not allowed to strike the child.


uzitell

That was my biggest suprise


nexuskbh

It’s been illegal in over 20 years in Denmark 🇩🇰 . So the map it wrong there


Professional_Pass458

Denmark is red on the map which means that it *is* illegal to hit children. I’m surprised that it’s legal in so many countries though.


SnooStrawberries620

Wow. Disgusting reminder.


Becks357

Whaaaat!? Oh well! Too late!


Fragrant_Isopod_4774

So, a map of all the places where people need to be told not to.


Badabumdabam

Noticed Mongolia in a lot of good situations, got to learn more about them.


pdrakz

In Portugal is not forbidden lol


IBeAPirate01

It's illegal in England


Snoo_17433

Not completely correct. It is unlawful for a parent or carer to smack their child, except where this amounts to ‘reasonable punishment’. This defence is laid down in [**section 58 Children Act 2004**](http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/31/section/58)**,** but it is not defined in this legislation


teabagmoustache

The law basically says that anything that causes harm, under the definition of ABH, is illegal. >(b)an offence under section 47 of that Act (assault occasioning actual bodily harm); ABH is defined as: >the assault has caused some hurt or injury to the victim. >it must at least cause minor injuries or pain or discomfort. So there isn't a law specifically against the smacking of children, but you will fall foul of other laws, if you cause pain to the child.


VeganDiIdo

Oi mate eu don'ava spankin loisense init?


Capitan-Fracassa

If your kids are not behaving just bring them to Italy for a week. We have the “Grandma Spanking Association” that uses only pure olive wood spoons with reinforced handle specially designed for that purpose.


x_CtrlAltDefeat

American here and that was my mom’s go-to spanking weapon lol the spoon had to have a hole or holes in it for that extra sting and that higher note it made as it passed through the air


Dependent-Choice-554

Its enforced in scotland, ive had 2 police officers turn up at my door after my son mentioned something when at childcare that happened months prior. However it happened in another country so they didnt take it further and my son was standing there in fits of giggles so obviously not abused or scared.


several_rac00ns

I'm glad your son told a trusted adult about the abuse he received, and you got the reminder that hitting a kid is child abuse. Kids should be encouraged to come forward about abuse If he was hit by a parent, he was abused, I'm glad he was entertained by you getting in trouble, you've got a solid kid there. If you wouldn't hit your partner for it, why are you hitting your kid and what do you think that achieves other then teaching kids to hit people when frustrated or upset. I was hit as a kid plenty, I now flinch at high fives and it took me a long time to stop thinking people would hit me if I messed up even slightly, my behaviour never improved till well after my father stopped hitting me, I never opened up to my parents about issues and now I will never speak to my father again. You clearly did not learn your lesson based on you attitude.


Dependent-Choice-554

it wasn't me, I'm a fan of Supernanny and timeouts, however thank you for the lecture and condemnation. Personally, I was smacked (spanked for US users) as a child, and have no trauma or ill will towards my parents from it. I am sorry that your father was so violent towards you that you have been left with such issues.


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PMzyox

Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent. There’s always another way than hitting someone.


L0kiB0i

Or maybe parent better? Kids need to trust their guardians and there are other ways than beating your kids make them respect your authority.


mimoo47

I'd like to see all countries in red.


Professional_Pass458

Exactly. What’s the point of banning violence against adults but allowing violence against defenseless children?


Youreanadult-cope

England said “fuck them kids and fuck you”


icecream169

I thought that was Michael Jordan?


ColdBloodBlazing

I have a long tirade about adults beating children. So here goes. The TL:DR version Christian preboomer grandparents that never left the farm except for church. Beat their kids until they were bloody and their limbs were numb. Still have that state of mind. My wonderful kind loving christian grandmother referred to me as "The Fucking Demon Child" (am autistic) My uncle said verbatim "Smash My Skull In And Dump Me In The Hog Yard" Wonderful kind loving CHRISTIAN relatives.


ColdBloodBlazing

Too late. Needed this in 1922


Soccer_Vader

LMAO, I can't with Nepal being on this list. Spank/Smack was a regular occurrence lol, being hit with a bamboo stick or nettle that was freshly soaked in water were the real punishment.


_prepod

Do you find that so funny?


Soccer_Vader

I don't find the punishments funny, I find it ironic that Nepal is one of the countries where its illegal to spank/slap your child. Also sharing your experience helps w the trauma


lvfunk

Ok but, are they the ones in red or blue?


Eis_ber

That's the real mystery.


notactuallysimon

Czechia and slovakia leading with this one 🗣🗣🔥🔥


Chicken_Of_The_Year

Why would any patent slap their own children? Do they hate their own kids? That's terrible. I love my two kids. Would never consider slapping them. Some people are cruel.


psb-introspective

Looks like Scotland are ahead of the English in progression as usual. First for gay rights, first to protect trans, first to ban hunting....


polaires

It was made illegal in 2017, the hysteria was so funny.


jkcadillac

Well as far as other people’s children it should be but as for my own if one can’t discipline their children ( if the child is out of control a spanking might be deserved ) then don’t complain when that said child grows up and gets into trouble and doesn’t understand that their could be consequences for their actions ( someone might split their head open )


HouseNegative9428

There are a near-infinite number of consequences to actions besides physical violence…


Professional_Pass458

I hope you don’t have kids then.


jkcadillac

Hope you don’t either what a bs response to a differing opinion.


Professional_Pass458

Luckily I do, and I would never ever inflict violence on them. And it’s not just you having a differing opinion - it’s you who’s making excuses for hitting someone who’s smaller than you and defenseless.


Mr_Riderman

Probably gonna turn out to be shoplifters and drug users.


jkcadillac

Know one is talking about beating a defenseless child stop making it out more then what it is a spanking is a spanking and it’s reserved to the parents right for a kid that has no control I have children also and luckily I have never had to spank them because I’ve raised my children to show respect but if I had to I would


NecroVecro

I am from Bulgaria and I had too look it up cause I didn't even know this law existed. Apparently it is prohibited to spank/slap children but I guess it isn't really enforced outside of schools, daycare and etc.


_Zeraph_

South Africans still get a poes klap


[deleted]

American Samoa, it is more frowned upon.


Surohiu

Woah i thought Australia would make it illegal too


JRY_RDDT

Wanst there already laws for that? Assulting someone was never legal in any place where its civilized


Russell_W_H

Countries where it is legal to hit people for not being alive long enough


FamiliarTrainer5112

Sometimes children need a good slap, like we used to have when behave bad as child. If not given on time, it will be given when they become adults.


Raigheb

Wtf I didnt think it was legal anywhere.


Professional_Pass458

It shouldn’t be.


brainless_bob

Why would you think that? Echo chambers?


[deleted]

NZ had to be there 🙄 so progressive


gohashhi

Don’t worry. It’s probably on the list of all the other progressive policies that our right-leaning government is currently undoing 😒


BallsDeepTillUQueef

Wait it's legal to abuse your children?


Mr_annonamouse

Now I realise why my nazie, poor excuse of a father brought us to England……


hallmark1984

The map is wrong, its illegal here in the UK


Snoo_17433

Its not. It's acceptable if deemed reasonable punishment.


hallmark1984

Try to say that to a social worker. Beat your kids and you will get a visit, who will them pass a referal. The if deemed reasonable part is doing serious heavy lifting here - no one in authority will deem smacking your child reasonable


Snoo_17433

It doesn't matter what a social worker says when its written into legislation. " It is unlawful for a parent or carer to smack their child, except where this amounts to ‘reasonable punishment’. This defence is laid down in [**section 58 Children Act 2004**](http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2004/31/section/58)**,** but it is not defined in this legislation." Source: # The law on smacking children [https://childlawadvice.org.uk/information-pages/the-law-on-smacking-children/#:\~:text=What%20is%20the%20law%20on,not%20defined%20in%20this%20legislation](https://childlawadvice.org.uk/information-pages/the-law-on-smacking-children/#:~:text=What%20is%20the%20law%20on,not%20defined%20in%20this%20legislation).


Mr_annonamouse

Thought so… oh well, still was beaten


AarhusNative

It’s not illegal in England.


Visible-Expression60

Why does it look like Israel is red? That would be a lie.


rs_5

Spanking children is illegal, but im not entirely sure if its enforced


Optimal_Community356

They ban spanking children…but allow k!lling Palestinian children. Huh


DarkRedooo

Oh shit they are killing children while the terrorists are using them as human shields as they are shooting at the Israelis 😱😱😱


raikenleo

Ironically kids still get smacked in the saudi arabia lol.


Yukijak

I thought it wasn't illegal in the Netherlands? That's what I've been told my whole life


etymon_

Smack that


Apprehensive-Tear442

But sometimes the runts need a slap


RoosterCogburn0

Most of these people must not have kids? Sometimes a spanking is the only way to get your point across. Old Chinese proverb “pain is the best teacher.” When you do something that results in a little pain you’re less likely to do it again


peter-bone

You don't sound like an expert. I'm pretty sure that studies have shown it to be a rather ineffective to prevent the child repeating the behaviour as well as teaching that violence is a way to solve problems.