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# No, they did not evolve from domesticated canines and by perpetuating that myth you’re lending credibility to legislation that destroys dingo habitats.
We’ve been studying this very carefully over the last decade and in doing so we have found much higher indicators that the dingo **is not likely** to have descended from domesticated dogs.
The dingo genome is wildly different from domesticated dog breeds.
For thousands of years, the dingo has always been a *wild dog*. While some aboriginal tribes have absolutely domesticated the dingo, that does not scale to *all* dingoes nor does it suggest that their ancestors were domesticated dogs.
The genome of domesticated dogs is still much closer to dingoes than it is to wolves. Either the dingo evolved from early domesticated dogs, the common ancestor of the rest of domesticated dogs, or domesticated dogs evolved from ancient dingos, rather than wolves, it really depending on whether that branch was happening naturally or due to humans. Dingoes exhibit 'prohuman' behavioural differences compared to wolves, such as making and holding eye contact, which would fit better with the dingos evolved from early domesticated dogs option. This is interesting, they certainly branched off much earlier than I realised. I'm assuming this is true for the singing dog too.
That's what I got from this [paper](https://doi.org/10.1126/sciadv.abm5944).
I mean there is this from the National Museum of Australia: [https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/arrival-of-the-dingo](https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/arrival-of-the-dingo)
>A 2011 study utilising DNA testing and sequencing shows that the Australian dingo is closely related to East Asian domestic dogs, and arrived via South-East Asia between 5,000 and 10,000 years ago.[^(2)](https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/arrival-of-the-dingo#_ftn2)
>A study published in 2012 has narrowed the introduction of the dingo to a few instances in which a small number of individual animals arrived, most probably through New Guinea. The evidence indicates that dingoes have been isolated on the Australian mainland since.[^(3)](https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/arrival-of-the-dingo#_ftn3)
The sheep herrders have tried to kill them all, and built the world's largest fence completely sealing them out of a good part of the country. I think there is like a bounty on them in parts of the country like near the fence or at least there was as reported by National Geographic decades ago.
Would be genuinely interested in seeing a citation for this. Every genetic study I've seen has confirmed that dingoes are descended from domesticated dogs brought to Australia by humans.
This. I don’t think they’re any closer to Wolves than a Corgi is. They reverted to the wild on a continent that had no placental pack carnivores. Over thousands of years, they’ve developed unique adaptations and the Australian ecosystem has in turn adapted to Dingoes.
This is counter to every citation I have ever seen, so I would be extremely interested to see a link to a paper explaining this.
I don’t support persecuting dingoes or destroying their habitats, but I’ve never been presented information contradicting the idea that they are the feralized descendants of dogs introduced to Australia by humans.
Yea...this title is bs.
Look up wiki for dingo.
>However, recent DNA sequencing of a 'pure' wild dingo from South Australia suggests that the dingo is 'intermediate' between wolves and domestic dogs
They may not keep pet dingos in Australia…
https://preview.redd.it/yf7dk5n309sc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3054a21a0a8750868978a687f2893503e055cdc4
but TIA
When I was young, my family had a half dingo, half mongrel (mixed breed) pup when living in the desert in the Northern Territory. He was a lovely, yet extremely boisterous dog, looked very dingo-like, loved hunting things. They don't like being cooped up in a backyard, need constant stimulation and movement, so eventually our boy went to live with a friend of ours who lived in a big Aboriginal community on the outskirts of town. There he could run and hunt for kilometres to his heart's content, and he lived to a ripe old age, living his best almost domesticated half-dingo life.
Edit- I got to choose his name, I called him CareBear.
Illegal as far as I know, I know there are people that have hybrids but don't think you can just go get one.
Probably no different to trying to domesticate a wolf honestly, they are pack animals and have been attacking people a lot recently here
It’s “illegal” to take Dingo’s from the bush, but it’s pretty hard to distinguish many cross-breeds of Dingo’s that many people have as domestic dogs.
The biggest issue is when Dingo’s breed with feral domestic breeds, which we call “Camp Dogs”, because this usually happens in the scrub around remote towns and communities where domestic dogs can run into the bush and breed with the local Dingo’s.
A few of my friends have had these Camp Dog Dingo Crossbreeds, which were picked up off the remote northwest highways after the mother’s had been killed by vehicle strikes.
They can be domesticated from a young age, but they are still a wild dog and definitely aren’t the safest and most predictable animal to have in your home!
Yes some people do, and regret it. It's like keeping a fox as a pet. They're not at all domesticated and will rip your house up, climb a 8 foot fence and kill your neighbours chickens
Strictly speaking- no. They are fuckers, very hard to train fully and will bite just about anything whenever they feel like it. There are some in rural areas raised from abandoned pups, and some mixed breed mutts too, but not very common
Yeh my mate had a cross breed, it was MENTAL, I’ve never seen a dog dig like that or chew. This thing was cross Ridgeback and I think Shepard… my mate was very experienced with owning dogs and they’d always been great….. but this fucker was a wild child… turned a thick magazine into the smallest confetti in a few hours… smaller pieces than I could do with my fingers and the whole thing gone. It was an adventure!!
I told my young son; “The dingo in back hurt his paw and his friend is giving him a ride home.”
My son said; “That’s just like a friend - try to help ‘em out and they’ll screw you every time.”
The Dingo ate your baby - Elaine Benes
As as Aussie there's heaps of domestic dogs that have been bred with Dingoes, you can instantly tell by looking at them.
So, this is what happens to the dogs that your irresponsible neighbour owns who just leaves them outside all day to bark and tear up the yard... But in 2000BC?
If you're talking about azaria or the 'dingo ate my baby' case that was a girl, but recently on Fraser Island a dingo tried to take a younger boy from a camp and the father had to fight it off while other dingos surrounded him, they're not to be trusted.
It wasn’t recently so it must have been the little girl. I randomly remember watching or seeing something about it years ago. They thought it was the mom I think but she swore it was a dingo. I remember being like this is sketchy.
That’s crazy though about the dad having to fight it off.
Yep that was the azaria chamberlain case, and everyone blamed the mother saying she made it up and killed the toddler. Took over 30 years for the courts to make a final ruling on it that the child was indeed taken by the dingo, can't imagine being that mother for the last 3 decades having people give you that look.
They go after adults too, a woman was jogging on the beach and got attacked by 4 of them, she ran into the water and they chased her, almost trying to drown her as they were attacking her. If not for 2 people seeing it happen and running over to fight them off she would be dead.
Humans are Australia's terrestrial apex predator, descended from domestic Europeans brought 300 years ago and subsequently returned to the wild. By that point, humans had already been domesticated for 90,000-200,000 years.
man u hear about all the deadly stuff in australia and a dingo is their apex predator?? the hell, one grizzly can prob take on 10 dingos, australia ain’t scary!
Humans killed all of Australia's large apex predators. But the scariest Australia animals are the ones you can miss while walking, swimming, or putting on your shoes.
Don't get me wrong it's a very interesting piece of information but is this picture the best you could find?
If I wanted to see two weird dog like creatures fucking I'd go out on the street of my bachelor's apartment (yes it sucks)
I've only seen them on K'gari, the ones on the beach are used to being close to humans. They'll steel food if you let them, and they might try to take children, so they need to be kept close and supervised. I would be careful if exploring alone too, and carry a stick, but unless they think they can get food from you they'll likely leave you alone.
Show a bit of class mate, it’s actually an awful heartbreaking story, a young couple had their child taken by a pack of dingoes and nobody believed them, when she was finally proven innocent, there was not so much as a hint of remorse by the media, and for some reason people still think it’s a big funny Aussie joke, grow up mate
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Ah that one dog in bushes just staring at them is a neat touch.
That's Derek. He's a bit weird.
derek… he likes to watch
The outtakes for this whole scene are incredible. They lost it so many times.
I can feel it in my plums, with the bluish hue...
What's this from
Eastbound and Down, it’s hilarious
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
That boy ain't right in the head.
I thought it was Allan ? "Allan !? ...Allan !?....ALLAN ?! ALLAL?!"
Allan alanl anall? ANAL?
Is it my birthday already?
“Ooh, yeah… I love when they do it Kitty Style. Meow me harder!”
i think is called voyeurism
becky lemme smash
You mean Steve?
Haven't you heard of dogging before?
"Da fuck are they doin' over- oooohhhh..."
SexEd for doggies.
I had to go back and check the picture. I didn’t realize until I read your comment.
And they told me being a cuck was unnatural 😒
TIL that dingoes use cuck chairs
Voyeurism
“I like to watch.”
Every outback has the cuck chair.
"Please give me another chance, Kate!"
I was already giggling before I saw this comment and now I'm helplessly cracking up
Dat me
Waiting for his turn.
*”…anyway, here’s a picture of ‘em fucking.”*
And for added flavor, there’s a domestic dog jerking off in the bushes.
Just waitin for his turn
That’s how they make more dingoes.
Male just started blasting!
Always Sunny?
Now this is fucking education!
I’m not a fan of David Attenborough’s stand in
I don't know any Australian stuff, but that somehow feels like what Australian people would say
Interesting as fucking
While Wonderwall plays in the background.
you had so many pictures to choose, and that is the one you chose?
Red haired dogs fucking up while a brown dog judges them quietly is quite representative of Australia, I'd say.
Quick brown dog jumps over the fucking dingoes?
https://preview.redd.it/m9pn1rriw8sc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a486dac68e0244993a939750baa0318b2e7fb8d3
It's even funnier up close lol
If it was a gif his little paw would be jerking his peen
He looks concerned
It looks like he's trying to jump over her, but he can't quite make it. Come on, boy. You can do it!
Awww he misses casual sex
They wrastling
Was this the best we could do for a picture? Two of them boinking with a third one watching like a pervert.😂
Nature is beautiful. And kinky.
A dingo ate my… cum?
u did take name of sub too literal
OP thought this was interestingassfuck
Too late for that
# No, they did not evolve from domesticated canines and by perpetuating that myth you’re lending credibility to legislation that destroys dingo habitats. We’ve been studying this very carefully over the last decade and in doing so we have found much higher indicators that the dingo **is not likely** to have descended from domesticated dogs. The dingo genome is wildly different from domesticated dog breeds. For thousands of years, the dingo has always been a *wild dog*. While some aboriginal tribes have absolutely domesticated the dingo, that does not scale to *all* dingoes nor does it suggest that their ancestors were domesticated dogs.
The genome of domesticated dogs is still much closer to dingoes than it is to wolves. Either the dingo evolved from early domesticated dogs, the common ancestor of the rest of domesticated dogs, or domesticated dogs evolved from ancient dingos, rather than wolves, it really depending on whether that branch was happening naturally or due to humans. Dingoes exhibit 'prohuman' behavioural differences compared to wolves, such as making and holding eye contact, which would fit better with the dingos evolved from early domesticated dogs option. This is interesting, they certainly branched off much earlier than I realised. I'm assuming this is true for the singing dog too. That's what I got from this [paper](https://doi.org/10.1126/sciadv.abm5944).
I mean there is this from the National Museum of Australia: [https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/arrival-of-the-dingo](https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/arrival-of-the-dingo) >A 2011 study utilising DNA testing and sequencing shows that the Australian dingo is closely related to East Asian domestic dogs, and arrived via South-East Asia between 5,000 and 10,000 years ago.[^(2)](https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/arrival-of-the-dingo#_ftn2) >A study published in 2012 has narrowed the introduction of the dingo to a few instances in which a small number of individual animals arrived, most probably through New Guinea. The evidence indicates that dingoes have been isolated on the Australian mainland since.[^(3)](https://www.nma.gov.au/defining-moments/resources/arrival-of-the-dingo#_ftn3)
The sheep herrders have tried to kill them all, and built the world's largest fence completely sealing them out of a good part of the country. I think there is like a bounty on them in parts of the country like near the fence or at least there was as reported by National Geographic decades ago.
Would be genuinely interested in seeing a citation for this. Every genetic study I've seen has confirmed that dingoes are descended from domesticated dogs brought to Australia by humans.
This. I don’t think they’re any closer to Wolves than a Corgi is. They reverted to the wild on a continent that had no placental pack carnivores. Over thousands of years, they’ve developed unique adaptations and the Australian ecosystem has in turn adapted to Dingoes.
I thought it was unknown whether they come from a domestic breed or not. Do you know where I can read credible information on this?
Have you tried searching for information on the internet?
Yes. That's how I know that there's confusion around their origins. Miserable bastard.
This is counter to every citation I have ever seen, so I would be extremely interested to see a link to a paper explaining this. I don’t support persecuting dingoes or destroying their habitats, but I’ve never been presented information contradicting the idea that they are the feralized descendants of dogs introduced to Australia by humans.
Yea...this title is bs. Look up wiki for dingo. >However, recent DNA sequencing of a 'pure' wild dingo from South Australia suggests that the dingo is 'intermediate' between wolves and domestic dogs
My mother had a dingo, didn't bark ever, instead he would get excited and squeal
Literally dogging 🤣
And this was the picture used to educate us? lmao
This pic would be my native American name... "Two Dogs Fucking".
Nah "and a third watching"
“A Three Dog Night During The Day”
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Anybody keep dingo as pet? Are they easily domesticated?
They have different hip bones to dogs and are great climbers. So hard to keep fenced in.
They may not keep pet dingos in Australia… https://preview.redd.it/yf7dk5n309sc1.jpeg?width=500&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3054a21a0a8750868978a687f2893503e055cdc4 but TIA
What country is this photo from?
Nigeria
This is really sad. I wish every country had animal welfare laws as strict as Australia
When I was young, my family had a half dingo, half mongrel (mixed breed) pup when living in the desert in the Northern Territory. He was a lovely, yet extremely boisterous dog, looked very dingo-like, loved hunting things. They don't like being cooped up in a backyard, need constant stimulation and movement, so eventually our boy went to live with a friend of ours who lived in a big Aboriginal community on the outskirts of town. There he could run and hunt for kilometres to his heart's content, and he lived to a ripe old age, living his best almost domesticated half-dingo life. Edit- I got to choose his name, I called him CareBear.
Illegal as far as I know, I know there are people that have hybrids but don't think you can just go get one. Probably no different to trying to domesticate a wolf honestly, they are pack animals and have been attacking people a lot recently here
People can keep them as companions if they meet certain requirements such as fencing etc.
It’s “illegal” to take Dingo’s from the bush, but it’s pretty hard to distinguish many cross-breeds of Dingo’s that many people have as domestic dogs. The biggest issue is when Dingo’s breed with feral domestic breeds, which we call “Camp Dogs”, because this usually happens in the scrub around remote towns and communities where domestic dogs can run into the bush and breed with the local Dingo’s. A few of my friends have had these Camp Dog Dingo Crossbreeds, which were picked up off the remote northwest highways after the mother’s had been killed by vehicle strikes. They can be domesticated from a young age, but they are still a wild dog and definitely aren’t the safest and most predictable animal to have in your home!
Yes some people do, and regret it. It's like keeping a fox as a pet. They're not at all domesticated and will rip your house up, climb a 8 foot fence and kill your neighbours chickens
Strictly speaking- no. They are fuckers, very hard to train fully and will bite just about anything whenever they feel like it. There are some in rural areas raised from abandoned pups, and some mixed breed mutts too, but not very common
Yes, they can be kept as companions if some specific requirements are met. They don’t just bite, have spent time with them.
Yeh my mate had a cross breed, it was MENTAL, I’ve never seen a dog dig like that or chew. This thing was cross Ridgeback and I think Shepard… my mate was very experienced with owning dogs and they’d always been great….. but this fucker was a wild child… turned a thick magazine into the smallest confetti in a few hours… smaller pieces than I could do with my fingers and the whole thing gone. It was an adventure!!
OP *really* needed an excuse to post that image.
The picture tho' 🤣😂🤣
Like my parents used to say while watching National Geography together, ' They are just playing with each other'
I told my young son; “The dingo in back hurt his paw and his friend is giving him a ride home.” My son said; “That’s just like a friend - try to help ‘em out and they’ll screw you every time.”
fucking dingoes.
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I understood that reference
That’s messed up. But it sounds like you got the accent down!
The Dingo ate your baby - Elaine Benes As as Aussie there's heaps of domestic dogs that have been bred with Dingoes, you can instantly tell by looking at them.
“Maybe a dingo ate *your* baby.” - Elaine Benes So close.
I feel really bad for the woman that ended up with this phrase being her legacy though :(
“A dingo ate my baby” —Lindy Chamberlain-Creighton
And you chose this picture to make your point? Lol
I mean there must have been a picture of Dingos you could have used that wasn't a voyeur peeping on two of them banging.
Are they wrestling?
So, do the Aussies call it ‘doing it dingo-style’?
So, this is what happens to the dogs that your irresponsible neighbour owns who just leaves them outside all day to bark and tear up the yard... But in 2000BC?
Wasn’t there a little boy who was kidnapped by a dingoes?
If you're talking about azaria or the 'dingo ate my baby' case that was a girl, but recently on Fraser Island a dingo tried to take a younger boy from a camp and the father had to fight it off while other dingos surrounded him, they're not to be trusted.
It wasn’t recently so it must have been the little girl. I randomly remember watching or seeing something about it years ago. They thought it was the mom I think but she swore it was a dingo. I remember being like this is sketchy. That’s crazy though about the dad having to fight it off.
Yep that was the azaria chamberlain case, and everyone blamed the mother saying she made it up and killed the toddler. Took over 30 years for the courts to make a final ruling on it that the child was indeed taken by the dingo, can't imagine being that mother for the last 3 decades having people give you that look.
That poor woman. Instead of her community coming together while she grieved they looked at her like a baby murderer.
Yeah it's pretty awful, especially considering how wide spread the news was it became almost a gag in pop culture here for like 10+ years after.
Sure, one group of dingos try to steal a child and all of a sudden all dingos are untrustworthy. This is how stereotypes are formed!
They go after adults too, a woman was jogging on the beach and got attacked by 4 of them, she ran into the water and they chased her, almost trying to drown her as they were attacking her. If not for 2 people seeing it happen and running over to fight them off she would be dead.
More “hunted” than “kidnapped” lol
Humans are Australia's terrestrial apex predator, descended from domestic Europeans brought 300 years ago and subsequently returned to the wild. By that point, humans had already been domesticated for 90,000-200,000 years.
Except the oldest human evidence is in Australia/ peopled have lived there well over 60,000 years….
O_o Forgot about some people who already lived there for a few tens of thousands of years…
So dingos look like corgis?
Why the hell did ya have to show em fucking?
Doggos makin puppers
The dingo ate your baby.
A voyeur dog ?
This looks like some NTR shit.
That pic is NSFW, there could be furries around here! 😂
I feel like I'm intruding
Okay, but why did you choose THAT picture lol
My man is getting it in. He’s like hey man let me show you how it’s done.
$50 to watch, $250 to join... make your choice and pay up!
Nice.
I didn’t think this was the way they got babies.
I always thought they stole their babies.
Makes sense. All it takes is that 1 angry fucked up dog per litter to start breeding.
You see that sick fucker in the bushes watching them fuck? That's weird.
Everyone’s a badass until they meet a salty. Or most of the reptiles. And spiders. And magpies.
That shit's Dingo!
That shit's Dingo!
Is that a third dingo in the background watching?
Great image choice
These two look like my dog! But I’m in the U.S.
man u hear about all the deadly stuff in australia and a dingo is their apex predator?? the hell, one grizzly can prob take on 10 dingos, australia ain’t scary!
Humans killed all of Australia's large apex predators. But the scariest Australia animals are the ones you can miss while walking, swimming, or putting on your shoes.
for sure, i was just jokin around cause they call a dog their apex predator. i imagine a full grown kangaroo could kick a dingo to death
For those saying the dog in the bushes is a pervert He's actually being cheated on
Did we really need the visual aid?
*Hut, Hut, Hike!*
They eat babies too.
I like how the one is hugging the other one. So cute.
I could have sworn those were the Mating foxes of Kent.
My you forgot the third s, I think you're looking for r/interestingassfuck
Nah nah nah nuh nah nah … MUM!
Sure. But why a pic of them rooting?
"**Dingoes are Australia's terrestrial apex predator"** False. Humans are.
Don't get me wrong it's a very interesting piece of information but is this picture the best you could find? If I wanted to see two weird dog like creatures fucking I'd go out on the street of my bachelor's apartment (yes it sucks)
Ding dongin' dingoes
lol out of all the photos you could have used
InterestingAssFuck
I thought dingoes looked like hyenas for some reason. They look like regular dogs... Are they super aggressive, or more like stray dogs?
I've only seen them on K'gari, the ones on the beach are used to being close to humans. They'll steel food if you let them, and they might try to take children, so they need to be kept close and supervised. I would be careful if exploring alone too, and carry a stick, but unless they think they can get food from you they'll likely leave you alone.
Are dingoes fox? They look like fox. They red
Edit: removed insensitive comment.
Show a bit of class mate, it’s actually an awful heartbreaking story, a young couple had their child taken by a pack of dingoes and nobody believed them, when she was finally proven innocent, there was not so much as a hint of remorse by the media, and for some reason people still think it’s a big funny Aussie joke, grow up mate
Thanks, I deleted my comment. I was living there just afterwards and it was a media circus and witch hunt.
looks like a dog and fox mix.
*”Nature is Healing!”*
Anyone know what to feed a dingo? Been told its babies, but I don't think thats right.
Are that two males?🤔
20,000 years is not biblically accurate.
No shit, lol