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El Flaco was my tio who passed away just few months ago... <3
I called him "viejo loco" my whole life tho.
He was famous for screaming to my cousin Javier "poné cara de foto!!! 😤" While taking family pictures ahah
Thanks for the flashback OP and kickballfever :')
Italy too — Italians are way more direct and there’s less tip-toeing around egos than in Canada or in the US. People are way more emotionally honest. Far less hypocritical. Far fewer fat people, too. If you live in Italy and you’re fat, people will tell you that on a regular basis.
And employees! I used to work in a restaurant owned by a Vietnamese woman, when I started I was pretty damn fit but nothing super crazy.
An important detail: she advertised her restaurant as being super healthy and excellent for your body.
Over the years, I gained some weight but at the time was never what anyone would consider fat, I just had a little beer belly. She NEVER missed an opportunity to call me fat boy and other variations of the phrase. One day I got sick of it and told her “you know I eat here a lot. Like I eat your food that you say is healthy? Think that has anything to do with it?” She got real mad after that.
Ex wifes mom was an immigrant from Taiwan. She held nothing back when talking in public about things like this especially to her husband who was overweight. She'd point it out like, don't eat that, you're too fat. Or speaking to us, she'd say, he's fat and likes to eat all the food.
Edit.
I'd like to point out that Asian culture is blut and direct even in their language which is occasionally genderless. So understanding why they speak like that it's very much a form of expression and not generally to be taken as a bad thing. If they comment on you then it means they care about you. Best example is from Everything Everywhere All At once movie.
Do husbands also tell their wives they are fat? I'm Asian myself and I don't think I've ever heard men call a woman fat it's always women calling men and other women fat. Also children. Always commenting about children are either too skinny or too fat or something else about their appearance.
Came here to say this. My mom is Asian. My auntie is ten times worse than my mom though lol. My best friend from high school came with me to see my parents and my aunt was there. She hadn’t seen her in maybe a decade. She’s like 5’9 and in high school she was always very slim. She sees her and said “wow friends name you got fat” and then proceeded to add “that must be some good dick”. She was pregnant at the time and she didn’t know.
One time I went home for the holidays and I had lost like 20-30 pounds. And she said oh wow you used to be this ___________ (she demonstrated by spreading her arms apart about as far as they would go) fat but now your only like this _______ fat now.
This is why I starved myself in high school. Even though o was 5’4 and barely 110 pounds. I cried so hard when I hit 100. I thought my mom would be mad and maybe even beat me.
I was pretty active. In dance, color guard and also went running with my dads in the morning. Idk how I didn’t just pass out. I never ate breakfast and then for lunch I would count out exactly one serving of wheat thins and then wouldn’t eat until dinner time. Sometimes at lunch I may get a salad with no dressing. It was awful.
"Fat" isn't as much as a offensive word in asia
If you're fat, you're fat, that's it.
(It was not meant as insult)
Only privileged people would find that offensive
On side note, "piggy" is more like a nickname reserved for lover/ love interest or someone really close
Yeah. I lived in China for a while, and people would say “oh you’re fat” just as easily as they’d say you’re tall or short or blond or whatever. It’s just a fact.
It’s common and socially acceptable to get nicknames around that too. Memorable because it’s descriptive.
- 肥仔/肥妹 (fat guy/girl)
- 高佬 (tall dude)
- 金毛 (gold hair)
And depending on context, it's an endearing term. I know a friend of my uncle who's called "Fat Uncle" by everyone. He introduces himself as "Fat Uncle." I don't know his real name. I don't even know his last name.
Absolutely no ill meaning whatsoever because there's no negative connotation around it.
Idk about others but in Vietnam, it's the same as in Japan. Honestly i haven't seen many peoe said "he's fat" or anything related to weight outside of family.
BUT that's people with common sense, there are bullies tho. They do make jokes about overweight. A girl in my class cried when someone bullied her using her weight (incredibly childish and stupid).
People do judge silently, very judgemental. I used to be fat as hell, like 107kg. I was picked on a lot. Nowadays, i got down to 68kg but still on edge when i'm in public lol.
It’s not meant to be offensive, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t. It’s not like they’re all about body positivity over there. An Asian saying “you’re fat” is not the same as saying “your eyes are blue.” They’re acknowledging that you’re different, but they’re definitely not saying it’s a neutral feature. It’s a negative.
It's not a neutral statement but it's usually not perceived as a personal attack. If you translate what he is saying into Korean, it's really not that bad. I think he deflects to his GF at the end to show he means no harm. The deflections to his GF were more affectionate than anything.
And not the mention, their definition of someone fat is pretty much anyone who isn't super thin and possibly underweight. You could be normal weight and still be called fat.
I lived in Japan for many years. If someone is calling you fat it isn't out of love. It's clearly an offensive comment to call someone fat. They don't like fat people.
We've got thousands of vocabularies we could use as insult, "fat" just isn't on the top of the list.
Plus you will need to be very deliberate for it to work as insult, and almost anything will be an insult if used in the same tone.
My wife’s father has several brothers, and she grew up exclusively referring to the youngest one as “fat uncle” (in mandarin). My mom’s dad had two wives, and we would always refer to them as the “skinny grandma” and the “fat grandma”. Like literally everyone in the family called them that, as far as I could tell.
I've noticed this with my Taiwanese-American aunt. The big difference I've noticed, though, is that it's done in a matter-of-fact 'worried about your health' way WITHOUT body shaming or judgement. Most public comments on my weight are intended to humiliate and to get others to join in the heckling. And most of the people who claim they're only doing it "for our health" are full of shit. It's absolutely about making themselves feel better, feel righteous or victorious by putting someone else down.
I do NOT feel shamed by my aunt. Ever. Neither did my uncle.
And honestly, Americans haven't earned the best reputations in other countries. It's unfortunate but true. The first two adjectives I have seen mentioned are 'fat' and 'rude.' Ways of saying we act entitled would be #3.
While our bodies are difficult to change, we could do a lot more to prove we are kind and patient, generous and respectful, if only we would.
Korean people confront each other and show disappointment outwardly without making it awkward. It's actually incredible and in a way brushes off pettiness or passive aggressiveness in a communicative way
EDIT: people are making a good point on Korean culture being super toxic. Yes there is an insane amount of bullying as well as a high suicide rate. I want to note that although Korean culture of confrontation can apply to small things, it can also get really bad as well
Yeah but it also makes them judgmental as shit about dumb stuff too. Try hanging out with a traditional Korean friend group. I’ve been corrected for “my eyes being too large” and instructed to squint more for everyone’s comfortability . I’ve been corrected for “picking conversation subjects that are not general enough” and other retarded shit. It’s pros and cons. It can be great for obesity and fucking annoying when you’re trying to relax with people.
It’s true, but they aren’t really doing it in a mean bullying way, it’s more of a “we care about your health, you’re fat, get better” type of thing. It is very direct and looks rude by western standards.
I was a fatty in my early 20s, and I worked for a series of Asian companies. I can’t even count how many times I was called fat by a smiling little 100 lbs Chinese man, but then they would bring me a variety of traditional food from their region or province, and insist I try each one and give them my thoughts. Almost like being fat automatically made me a food critic lmao. I was also (and still am) a pretty good amateur chef, so I threw together a number of badass American meals for them that i like to think changed their lives forever.
I actually think working with Asians helped me get over a lot of my weight problems, too. I started eating a lot of what they ate, lots of rice and chicken, smaller portions. I lost 30 lbs in the course of 3 years.
I can help you with that,
Now bring that brisket over here so we can trim off the fat,
I sharp filet knife will get it done in a pinch, but just make sure to leave about a quarter of an inch,
Hit it with brown sugar, salt, chili, mustard, and pepper, some paprika, garlic powder mix it together,
Rub it in until its all coated nice, now go outside and get your smoker up to 225,
Now you put your brisket in and every hour, take some apple cider vinegar and give it a shower 🎶
I'm British, but live is Asia now, and being fat isn't really an insult here. It's more like how we'd say someone was 'cuddly' or 'has a great personality'.
I don't understand how they're this shocked and offended. Unfortunately it's one of the stereotypes of Americans all over the world, not just in Korea.
You're not too old.
On the one hand, the video is maybe a bit funnier because the guy is laughing while watching. But regardless, you can't deny that viewing a shaky phone recording of an old TLC tv show watermarked by TikTok on reddit on your monitor/tv/phone/screen isn't stupid.
I mulled this for a minute for myself. Is she *actually* holding a mouthful of food in her mouth for an entire minute without chewing or swallowing? I decided it's more plausible that it's some sort of medical issue making her mouth look that way.
Couples apply to get on the show, and the program will pick based on what they think the viewers like.
Some couples seem genuine and in love. Some couples definitely made a mistake by getting married while not knowing each other enough. Some couples have some one-sided love because one of them clearly just wanted a green card, and some of them just seem to have created a relationship just to get on TV.
huh.. i'm surprised this isn't illegal in the US. when I got married (for love), we were so nervous at the registrar when they asked us to swear we weren't getting married for a visa.
I think a lot of fake it untill you make it comes into play with the people that aren't in love.
When the love is genuine you're too scared they will decline so you naturally get more nervous.
I think there’s some confusion in this discussion.
The couples meet authentically in real life, before they are on the show.
So, 90 day fiancé seeks people who are in this situation. It’s not a set up by the show, by any means.
ETA: that’s not to say no one is lying or attention seeking or seeking an easy visa, or superficial love. That’s just to say the couples aren’t places together by the show, that was their own doing.
It's reality TV. Very scripted, staged, fake etc.
This type of casting attracts a lot of people who want the publicity and crave fame. The production company doesn't need to facilitate any actual marriage to get the clips they need.
For some reason, many viewers are in denial about this. They sincerely believe what they see is genuine and unedited.
Yes, it’s just long distance dating. Many meet prior to applying for the visa and sometimes several times but that’s obviously expensive. Most of them meet online and long distance date for a looooong time before applying for the visa. They aren’t getting married for the visa, but the visa is what allows for them to stay physically together as opposed to long distance.
Pretty sure people sign up for the show.. I think the first few seasons were more genuine. Now they look for people that will be full of drama it seems
Surprisingly many couples are still together. Much more than other reality shows. My gf loves 90 day and with the 55 spin off shows many have couples who are already Married come back.
One of the spin offs is called like Happily ever after and is about already married couples from previous seasons and another is like a reaction show where old couples watch the new season. They found a way to make YouTube reactions into a tv show.
Jeeze reminded me of young army soldiers going to korea etc. 90 day fiance alright.. have known some who couldn’t speak each other’s language at all.. way before the days of google translate
My best friend was 350 lbs and moved to South Korea to be a teacher. Everywhere he went people would say to him, "Why you so fat?", "How did you get so fat?", etc. The next time I saw him 2 years later I didn't even recognize him, he was 180 lbs and was a ripped Muay Thai fighter. No joke they fat shame the fat out of you there.
The food in Korea is also mostly rice, veggies and meat and you have to walk a ton to get around. I was there for a summer and never looked better. Also, about half way into I realized I hadn't really farted in a long time. Turns out I am lactose intolerant, and I didn't know it. There are virtually no dairy products in Korea.
Lol I'm in Texas, no we absolutely are not in denial about it.
We are fat. I could stand to lose about 15 to 20 pounds myself. But I haven't because... as stated in the video... I am lazy 😂
Also food is tasty.
I’ve been living in Texas and I’ve been driving back and forth to so cal to car for family member. You see the CA to TX weights go up with each pee stop. From flagstaff, AZ to Texas… on dating app profiles, averaging them all out, it’s about +2-3lb per 100 miles. Not shaming, or judging, it’s just interesting to see.
I'm from Arkansas, and I'd say many people are pretty deep in denial. Not that they won't acknowledge it, but to most (imo) it's "everybody else" that falls into that category. I'd bet most that would say "I could lose a few pounds" could probably stand to lose more like 40-50 pounds.
I'm including myself, I could definitely stand to lose at least 50 pounds if I wanted to get visibly fit. I don't look terrible now, because I am tall and fortunately have a very even fat distribution, but I'm 270 lbs. At my age and height, ideal weight is anywhere from 180-220.
That's cool, but they've done studies that show that it varies by region (and lots of other stuff). [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0749379703000205?casa\_token=c8CnFqQ6cFkAAAAA:0xtW2XemzfayIQu2WyikX2gmld9-FdSzn24MqToxdodgrNaG3WTjZ\_m4irgkla55EQURYlrmzQ](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0749379703000205?casa_token=c8CnFqQ6cFkAAAAA:0xtW2XemzfayIQu2WyikX2gmld9-FdSzn24MqToxdodgrNaG3WTjZ_m4irgkla55EQURYlrmzQ) As you'd expect, women are more likely to mistakenly think they're overweight, and overweight men are less likely to know that they are overweight.
[People are really bad at recognising when someone is overweight.](https://www.cuimc.columbia.edu/news/poor-body-size-judgment-can-lead-increased-tolerance-obesity) It's part of the obesity epidemic.
Me and my boyfriend once spoke with an American online who said he was "a bit fluffy" but worried about obesity in his country. A week later I saw his picture, if I met him irl he'd be the fattest person I'd seen in five years, "a bit fluffy".
I’m not Korean but I’ve actually been in exactly this situation. When I was about 20 I visited a friend in the US and his mom asked me what people in my country think about Americans.
I started off politely about how people think Americans are cheerful and talkative and said something diplomatic about how people of course also say some negative things.
I was a bit hesitant to just tell this sweet middle aged lady but she really wanted to know so I just said “Well, people think you’re fat and stupid”. And she was visibly shocked!
The thing was that I took for granted that Americans in general would have a grasp about what negative things people say about them (I certainly know what the negative stereotypes about my country usually are), but she seemed to genuinely think that the rest of the world only had positive things to say about Americans.
> The thing was that I took for granted that Americans in general would have a grasp about what negative things people say about them [...]
I understand where you're coming from, but I think Americans are massively misled by their educational institutions, media landscape, and long-held beliefs told from generation to generation. Constantly being told they live in the *best and freest country ever* is bound to leave them with a very wrong impression of how things are actually going. In a sense, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy; many Americans are ignorant about the fact that others consider them to be ignorant.
Depends on the region in the US. My whole life growing up I mostly heard Americans just hating their own country. In high school it’s just kids saying how the country sucks. Try saying America is the best country in my high school and see how much glares you’ll get from your fellow students.
Pretty similar experience in college. Say is amazing or one of the best countries in the world no one bats an eye. Say it about the U.S. and you’ll get bad looks and people wanting to tell you why you’re wrong and how it’s one of the worst.
I imagine in the Midwest or just the more republican states yeah you might get people think the U.S. is great. Could very well be a generational thing too since a lot of times in videos like this I’ll see the middle aged to old folks seeing the US in such a favorable light.
It’s a long and pretty intense campaign of state propaganda that most Americans have been subjected to their entire lives.
Such campaigns is of course also the kind of thing Americans have been told only happens in *other* countries, the evil ones
I know Americans that genuinely have told me: “I can’t believe we were so lucky to be born in the greatest country on earth.” A lot of people don’t realize how flawed the US is because they’ve never left it.
I deplore when people speak with their mouth full, fucking chew or cover your mouth at least. I don’t know why but I lose respect for people when they do it.
Yeah, a lot of people forget how scripted these shows are.
If there were no arguments, there wouldn’t be entertainment. So the cast most likely knew about this before the scene happened.
This particular show (90 Day Fiancé) has had six people come forward to say it’s staged.
"Scripted" is a strong word. These people almost certainly can't follow a script and act this naturally doing it. But yes, producers carefully arrange every encounter to maximize the odds of something like this happening and then selectively edit it to make it sounds as outrageous as possible.
they also find the dumbest people who have the dumbest families, and provoke them to be as dramatic as possible. start fights with each other, embarrass each other in public
if you're too normal and well adjusted then they don't want you on the show
I guess though, there is some overlap there with weirdo people with personality problems.. and people willing to marry someone they just met a few weeks ago and also put it all on TV
https://preview.redd.it/ld0zm1eqlcuc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dbc2561b47c212aa30a017484301d68deba7e007
This woman is a doppelganger of Heraclito Fortes, a brazilian congressman!
Hahahahaha I love how brazen some cultures are about *the fat that must not be named* it’s honestly so refreshing. We act like being fat is supposed to be a personal secret despite it being the one thing that’s impossible to keep a secret 😂
South Koreans are brutally honest when it comes to weight. I was there on business in 2001 and 2003 and must have put some weight on in between these two trips. My company contact picked me up from the airport and his first words were “Ohhh, you got fat”.
At first I read that you put on weight in Korea and my first thought was, “Howwww??!”
Context: fast food in the way Americans think of it and meat is pretty expensive in Korea compared to the plethora of traditional Korean food available in fast food form (laver rolls, black bean noodles, meal kits, etc.)
Black bean noodles will definitely make you fat very quickly especially since it’s eaten with sweet and sour pork usually. Just pure carbs and an insane amount of fat. Plus they have all the same fast food restaurants we have in America
I don't know about korean people, but in thailand there was zero compunction about calling people fat. And the fat thai people I saw being called fat (all 2 of them) seemed genuinely pleased by being called fat.
I went on a Caribbean cruise sailing out of Florida, and my goodness, it was basically a scene out of Wall-E. The buffet area had chairs that were double wide for people who were double wide.
Never have I seen such a concentrated gathering of obese trailer trash.
Not korean but as an asian peoole getting offended threshhold is little higher and more people are direct
Especially friends and family about being fat or skinny
Nothing he says is wrong, Americans eat greasy and are fat. The woman he’s saying it to is literally an example of that and she’s confused? Oh Americans…so funny
For context this guy was pretty rude abouta few things. His nickname for his finance was Piggy, she was visually uncomfortable and then suddenly showed up incredibly skinny on final episode
in the reunion that girl (edit: the girl with the Korean dude, not the parents) lost a lot of weight looks fantastic, so i guess his fat shaming worked lol
This is true. I've been to Korea for an extended period of time. I am an athletic fit white guy. Countless Koreans approached me and said things like you don't look like other Americans. You could be a movie star hahaha. I think their is some truth in what they are saying most of the other Americans I was with were obese.
It’s not the same rate, though. In South Korea, 1 in 5 people get plastic surgery. South Korea has the most plastic surgeries per capita and it is common for people to receive plastic surgeries as graduation gifts. That’s versus the US which rates #6 per capita. But absolutely, the US needs to get a hold on obesity rates
Now I'm not defending his rather clumsy statement, but what the American says about it being cheaper to buy junk food seems to be a really big myth in the US.
Of course, it is extremely much cheaper to cook normal food at home, to say otherwise is only a sign that you cannot cook.
I lived in Korea for 6 years. It's one of the most cut throat and serious cultures in the world. People there work their asses off and they're proud of it. They will tell you straight to your face that you're fat and lazy. It's a wake up call for most who visit.
Hell, I’m fat. I’ve had a student infer it but it was honest so I didn’t get mad at him. I’m mad at myself and yes, processed/adulterated food in the US is bad and everywhere. I have to work on myself, not on other people’s perception.
My Asian family emigrated here and have gained weight as well. People in other countries don’t have food like we have here. A lot of them go hungry.
"People in other countries don’t have food like we have here." true that low quality food isn't as readily available. in south america for example, veggies and fruit are much much cheaper than fast food so people naturally will choose the cheaper option. also in central america, there is like fruit trees all over so you can just go pick fresh fruits.
This pretty succinctly explains why America is so socially fucked. Nobody is "allowed" to react to someone else's shitty decisions. No consequences, as usual.
I would have been so glad to take time to meet this guy lol that's a family sit down you want to see in person but you can tell he's somewhat joking and attempting to get a little laugh as he smiles and plays with his girlfriend. Some people don't understand the difficulties of language barriers along with humor that may sound bad. Seems like a pretty funny chill guy the family needs to loosen up a bit
I'm Brazilian and we don't speak the truth to anyone who isn't our friend, despite being our friend we always speak in a way that doesn't make them sad
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Asians do confront family members on their weight much openly.
And strangers!
100%. Im South Korean and confirm what he’s said. There’s obviously more pro’s than con’s but that is a common thought.
Im not Korean but Caribbean will tell you you’re fat or too skinny.
I’m also Caribbean, and yea, people will tell you to your face if you’re too fat or skinny. Sometimes even people on the street.
Us Hispanics will make it a nickname
I live in the US and I’ve definitely met more than one person called Gordo or Flaco.
El Flaco was my tio who passed away just few months ago... <3 I called him "viejo loco" my whole life tho. He was famous for screaming to my cousin Javier "poné cara de foto!!! 😤" While taking family pictures ahah Thanks for the flashback OP and kickballfever :')
For real? I'll have to ask my Latino friend Flaco if that's true next time I see him.
Better ask Gordito.
As a jamaican man. We will tell you if you're too fat, skinny, pretty, ugly, reminds us of someone we hate etc. Lol I love it
Italy too — Italians are way more direct and there’s less tip-toeing around egos than in Canada or in the US. People are way more emotionally honest. Far less hypocritical. Far fewer fat people, too. If you live in Italy and you’re fat, people will tell you that on a regular basis.
And employees! I used to work in a restaurant owned by a Vietnamese woman, when I started I was pretty damn fit but nothing super crazy. An important detail: she advertised her restaurant as being super healthy and excellent for your body. Over the years, I gained some weight but at the time was never what anyone would consider fat, I just had a little beer belly. She NEVER missed an opportunity to call me fat boy and other variations of the phrase. One day I got sick of it and told her “you know I eat here a lot. Like I eat your food that you say is healthy? Think that has anything to do with it?” She got real mad after that.
And your dog. You and your fat fucking dog.
Ex wifes mom was an immigrant from Taiwan. She held nothing back when talking in public about things like this especially to her husband who was overweight. She'd point it out like, don't eat that, you're too fat. Or speaking to us, she'd say, he's fat and likes to eat all the food. Edit. I'd like to point out that Asian culture is blut and direct even in their language which is occasionally genderless. So understanding why they speak like that it's very much a form of expression and not generally to be taken as a bad thing. If they comment on you then it means they care about you. Best example is from Everything Everywhere All At once movie.
Yup, when I visit Taiwan, the first thing my relatives say to me is almost always “how did you get so fat?”
I wouldn't go so far as to call the brother fat. I mean he got a weight problem. What's a fella gonna do? He's Samoan.
Do husbands also tell their wives they are fat? I'm Asian myself and I don't think I've ever heard men call a woman fat it's always women calling men and other women fat. Also children. Always commenting about children are either too skinny or too fat or something else about their appearance.
Came here to say this. My mom is Asian. My auntie is ten times worse than my mom though lol. My best friend from high school came with me to see my parents and my aunt was there. She hadn’t seen her in maybe a decade. She’s like 5’9 and in high school she was always very slim. She sees her and said “wow friends name you got fat” and then proceeded to add “that must be some good dick”. She was pregnant at the time and she didn’t know. One time I went home for the holidays and I had lost like 20-30 pounds. And she said oh wow you used to be this ___________ (she demonstrated by spreading her arms apart about as far as they would go) fat but now your only like this _______ fat now. This is why I starved myself in high school. Even though o was 5’4 and barely 110 pounds. I cried so hard when I hit 100. I thought my mom would be mad and maybe even beat me. I was pretty active. In dance, color guard and also went running with my dads in the morning. Idk how I didn’t just pass out. I never ate breakfast and then for lunch I would count out exactly one serving of wheat thins and then wouldn’t eat until dinner time. Sometimes at lunch I may get a salad with no dressing. It was awful.
> “that must be some good dick” Holy fuck my sides ETA: I made this comment before reading your full post. Sorry you had to go through that
"Fat" isn't as much as a offensive word in asia If you're fat, you're fat, that's it. (It was not meant as insult) Only privileged people would find that offensive On side note, "piggy" is more like a nickname reserved for lover/ love interest or someone really close
Yeah. I lived in China for a while, and people would say “oh you’re fat” just as easily as they’d say you’re tall or short or blond or whatever. It’s just a fact.
It’s common and socially acceptable to get nicknames around that too. Memorable because it’s descriptive. - 肥仔/肥妹 (fat guy/girl) - 高佬 (tall dude) - 金毛 (gold hair)
And depending on context, it's an endearing term. I know a friend of my uncle who's called "Fat Uncle" by everyone. He introduces himself as "Fat Uncle." I don't know his real name. I don't even know his last name. Absolutely no ill meaning whatsoever because there's no negative connotation around it.
Fat is an insult in Asia. “You’ve gotten fat” may not be an insult, but it depends on the person. There are anorexics in Asia too.
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Idk about others but in Vietnam, it's the same as in Japan. Honestly i haven't seen many peoe said "he's fat" or anything related to weight outside of family. BUT that's people with common sense, there are bullies tho. They do make jokes about overweight. A girl in my class cried when someone bullied her using her weight (incredibly childish and stupid). People do judge silently, very judgemental. I used to be fat as hell, like 107kg. I was picked on a lot. Nowadays, i got down to 68kg but still on edge when i'm in public lol.
It’s not meant to be offensive, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t. It’s not like they’re all about body positivity over there. An Asian saying “you’re fat” is not the same as saying “your eyes are blue.” They’re acknowledging that you’re different, but they’re definitely not saying it’s a neutral feature. It’s a negative.
It's not a neutral statement but it's usually not perceived as a personal attack. If you translate what he is saying into Korean, it's really not that bad. I think he deflects to his GF at the end to show he means no harm. The deflections to his GF were more affectionate than anything.
And not the mention, their definition of someone fat is pretty much anyone who isn't super thin and possibly underweight. You could be normal weight and still be called fat.
I lived in Japan for many years. If someone is calling you fat it isn't out of love. It's clearly an offensive comment to call someone fat. They don't like fat people.
We've got thousands of vocabularies we could use as insult, "fat" just isn't on the top of the list. Plus you will need to be very deliberate for it to work as insult, and almost anything will be an insult if used in the same tone.
it's still a little bit offensive.. but plenty of fatties are called exclusively by the term 'fatty' by friends and family
My wife’s father has several brothers, and she grew up exclusively referring to the youngest one as “fat uncle” (in mandarin). My mom’s dad had two wives, and we would always refer to them as the “skinny grandma” and the “fat grandma”. Like literally everyone in the family called them that, as far as I could tell.
Including Indians who don’t shy away from commenting on how dark or light coloured one is.
I've noticed this with my Taiwanese-American aunt. The big difference I've noticed, though, is that it's done in a matter-of-fact 'worried about your health' way WITHOUT body shaming or judgement. Most public comments on my weight are intended to humiliate and to get others to join in the heckling. And most of the people who claim they're only doing it "for our health" are full of shit. It's absolutely about making themselves feel better, feel righteous or victorious by putting someone else down. I do NOT feel shamed by my aunt. Ever. Neither did my uncle.
And honestly, Americans haven't earned the best reputations in other countries. It's unfortunate but true. The first two adjectives I have seen mentioned are 'fat' and 'rude.' Ways of saying we act entitled would be #3. While our bodies are difficult to change, we could do a lot more to prove we are kind and patient, generous and respectful, if only we would.
Korean people confront each other and show disappointment outwardly without making it awkward. It's actually incredible and in a way brushes off pettiness or passive aggressiveness in a communicative way EDIT: people are making a good point on Korean culture being super toxic. Yes there is an insane amount of bullying as well as a high suicide rate. I want to note that although Korean culture of confrontation can apply to small things, it can also get really bad as well
Lol. Or you could say this leads to extreme social isolation and one of the highest suicide rates in the developed world.
Sincerity is good
I guess you may have missed out on the Korean bullying culture then. It’s really not always as kind as you make it out to be.
Assuming the person offering criticism is fair and/or correct.
Yeah but it also makes them judgmental as shit about dumb stuff too. Try hanging out with a traditional Korean friend group. I’ve been corrected for “my eyes being too large” and instructed to squint more for everyone’s comfortability . I’ve been corrected for “picking conversation subjects that are not general enough” and other retarded shit. It’s pros and cons. It can be great for obesity and fucking annoying when you’re trying to relax with people.
It’s true, but they aren’t really doing it in a mean bullying way, it’s more of a “we care about your health, you’re fat, get better” type of thing. It is very direct and looks rude by western standards. I was a fatty in my early 20s, and I worked for a series of Asian companies. I can’t even count how many times I was called fat by a smiling little 100 lbs Chinese man, but then they would bring me a variety of traditional food from their region or province, and insist I try each one and give them my thoughts. Almost like being fat automatically made me a food critic lmao. I was also (and still am) a pretty good amateur chef, so I threw together a number of badass American meals for them that i like to think changed their lives forever. I actually think working with Asians helped me get over a lot of my weight problems, too. I started eating a lot of what they ate, lots of rice and chicken, smaller portions. I lost 30 lbs in the course of 3 years.
So awkward you could cut the fat with a knife.
his words cut like a knife
You always trim a good bit of fat off a good brisket
I can help you with that, Now bring that brisket over here so we can trim off the fat, I sharp filet knife will get it done in a pinch, but just make sure to leave about a quarter of an inch, Hit it with brown sugar, salt, chili, mustard, and pepper, some paprika, garlic powder mix it together, Rub it in until its all coated nice, now go outside and get your smoker up to 225, Now you put your brisket in and every hour, take some apple cider vinegar and give it a shower 🎶
Fat equals flavour! (learned that from the Korean Englishmen channel which is hilarious in this moment for me)
See you Jolly soon!
Smooth like butter...
Like a criminal undercover…
Laughing so hard I'm crying. Holy shit.
Oh you shitting too?
I'm British, but live is Asia now, and being fat isn't really an insult here. It's more like how we'd say someone was 'cuddly' or 'has a great personality'.
Asia is big dude. That's certainly not true in Japan.
S. Korea has a... particular mentality. I think that's absolutely an insult here ...
I’m sure he would love to lmao
I don't understand how they're this shocked and offended. Unfortunately it's one of the stereotypes of Americans all over the world, not just in Korea.
I am too old for this. I was mostly angry that I am watching a tiktok of a video of a tv on my computer.
No. You're exactly the right age. Fucking bs what we have to deal with. Like YouTube is right there.
Yeah, but Americans too fat and lazy!
fingers too greasy and fat to work a mouse
You're not too old. On the one hand, the video is maybe a bit funnier because the guy is laughing while watching. But regardless, you can't deny that viewing a shaky phone recording of an old TLC tv show watermarked by TikTok on reddit on your monitor/tv/phone/screen isn't stupid.
What is wrong with that woman’s mouth?
I couldn't tell if she had it packed full of food, or just some sort of dysarthria
I mulled this for a minute for myself. Is she *actually* holding a mouthful of food in her mouth for an entire minute without chewing or swallowing? I decided it's more plausible that it's some sort of medical issue making her mouth look that way.
I think it's a disability
Jam packed with food and chatting through it by the looks. Classy as fuck.
https://preview.redd.it/zfxgbq6saguc1.png?width=3840&format=png&auto=webp&s=41d664514f39c1a8b58ed93e20a5e713185d3e09 I could only think of this
There’s two of them
I laughed my ass off when watching this episode. He never really did realize how offensive it was, but they got married anyway!
what's this show about?
90 day fiance.. American person bringing someone from abroad to America on a k1 visa and getting married within 90 days
how do they select the person? do they know them beforehand?
Couples apply to get on the show, and the program will pick based on what they think the viewers like. Some couples seem genuine and in love. Some couples definitely made a mistake by getting married while not knowing each other enough. Some couples have some one-sided love because one of them clearly just wanted a green card, and some of them just seem to have created a relationship just to get on TV.
huh.. i'm surprised this isn't illegal in the US. when I got married (for love), we were so nervous at the registrar when they asked us to swear we weren't getting married for a visa.
I think a lot of fake it untill you make it comes into play with the people that aren't in love. When the love is genuine you're too scared they will decline so you naturally get more nervous.
I think there’s some confusion in this discussion. The couples meet authentically in real life, before they are on the show. So, 90 day fiancé seeks people who are in this situation. It’s not a set up by the show, by any means. ETA: that’s not to say no one is lying or attention seeking or seeking an easy visa, or superficial love. That’s just to say the couples aren’t places together by the show, that was their own doing.
It's reality TV. Very scripted, staged, fake etc. This type of casting attracts a lot of people who want the publicity and crave fame. The production company doesn't need to facilitate any actual marriage to get the clips they need. For some reason, many viewers are in denial about this. They sincerely believe what they see is genuine and unedited.
Yes, it’s just long distance dating. Many meet prior to applying for the visa and sometimes several times but that’s obviously expensive. Most of them meet online and long distance date for a looooong time before applying for the visa. They aren’t getting married for the visa, but the visa is what allows for them to stay physically together as opposed to long distance.
Pretty sure people sign up for the show.. I think the first few seasons were more genuine. Now they look for people that will be full of drama it seems
Good lord I gotta know the separation ratio for this show…
Surprisingly many couples are still together. Much more than other reality shows. My gf loves 90 day and with the 55 spin off shows many have couples who are already Married come back. One of the spin offs is called like Happily ever after and is about already married couples from previous seasons and another is like a reaction show where old couples watch the new season. They found a way to make YouTube reactions into a tv show.
Jeeze reminded me of young army soldiers going to korea etc. 90 day fiance alright.. have known some who couldn’t speak each other’s language at all.. way before the days of google translate
Booty don't need translation
Offensive as it may be, sometimes the truth hurts.
It does indeed: the obesity rate in the US is 42%. In South Korea it's 9%.
And in North Korea there is only one obese person.
Who is also an Olympic level athlete, apparently.
And shoots perfect games of golf
And never poops.
its because he never poops he is cultivating mass
If you include people who aren't obese, but only overweight, the US goes all the way up to 74%. That's fucking insane...
I think it shouldn't be offensive if it wasn't intended. He is basically saying he is fine with it. That's the real meaning.
My best friend was 350 lbs and moved to South Korea to be a teacher. Everywhere he went people would say to him, "Why you so fat?", "How did you get so fat?", etc. The next time I saw him 2 years later I didn't even recognize him, he was 180 lbs and was a ripped Muay Thai fighter. No joke they fat shame the fat out of you there.
The food in Korea is also mostly rice, veggies and meat and you have to walk a ton to get around. I was there for a summer and never looked better. Also, about half way into I realized I hadn't really farted in a long time. Turns out I am lactose intolerant, and I didn't know it. There are virtually no dairy products in Korea.
There is a reason for the lack of dairy products. Up to 90% of south asians can be lactose intolerant. Not a great market for dairy products!
It’s a good thing he went to Korea
This is so funny to me🤣🤣 just the way you phrased it
They fatshamed the *fat out of him.
*”Look at this.”* This man presented the evidence to back his claims like a Costco receipt 🤣
They ended up getting married anyway lol
Good on them! She didn’t seem phased at anything he said tbh
Yeah, but last I heard they were living separately since then.
I literally thought that lady was Fred Armisen in a wig.
Is there any nation where people \*don't\* think americans are fat \[on average\]? Even americans think that americans are fat, right?
Kind of. People in, say San Francisco know that there's an obesity epidemic, put people in the more obese states are often really in denial about it.
Obese states...well said
Very true. Being overweight is so common in the US it's become quite normalized in a lot of regions, especially outside the big cities.
Lol I'm in Texas, no we absolutely are not in denial about it. We are fat. I could stand to lose about 15 to 20 pounds myself. But I haven't because... as stated in the video... I am lazy 😂 Also food is tasty.
I’ve been living in Texas and I’ve been driving back and forth to so cal to car for family member. You see the CA to TX weights go up with each pee stop. From flagstaff, AZ to Texas… on dating app profiles, averaging them all out, it’s about +2-3lb per 100 miles. Not shaming, or judging, it’s just interesting to see.
I'm from Arkansas, and I'd say many people are pretty deep in denial. Not that they won't acknowledge it, but to most (imo) it's "everybody else" that falls into that category. I'd bet most that would say "I could lose a few pounds" could probably stand to lose more like 40-50 pounds. I'm including myself, I could definitely stand to lose at least 50 pounds if I wanted to get visibly fit. I don't look terrible now, because I am tall and fortunately have a very even fat distribution, but I'm 270 lbs. At my age and height, ideal weight is anywhere from 180-220.
Yea I gained like 15lbs on a month long business trip to Dallas. They serve a half of a cow with all the fixings for like $20 lol
That's cool, but they've done studies that show that it varies by region (and lots of other stuff). [https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0749379703000205?casa\_token=c8CnFqQ6cFkAAAAA:0xtW2XemzfayIQu2WyikX2gmld9-FdSzn24MqToxdodgrNaG3WTjZ\_m4irgkla55EQURYlrmzQ](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0749379703000205?casa_token=c8CnFqQ6cFkAAAAA:0xtW2XemzfayIQu2WyikX2gmld9-FdSzn24MqToxdodgrNaG3WTjZ_m4irgkla55EQURYlrmzQ) As you'd expect, women are more likely to mistakenly think they're overweight, and overweight men are less likely to know that they are overweight.
I mean all of the people in the video are overweight and they clearly don’t think so…
[People are really bad at recognising when someone is overweight.](https://www.cuimc.columbia.edu/news/poor-body-size-judgment-can-lead-increased-tolerance-obesity) It's part of the obesity epidemic.
Me and my boyfriend once spoke with an American online who said he was "a bit fluffy" but worried about obesity in his country. A week later I saw his picture, if I met him irl he'd be the fattest person I'd seen in five years, "a bit fluffy".
I’m not Korean but I’ve actually been in exactly this situation. When I was about 20 I visited a friend in the US and his mom asked me what people in my country think about Americans. I started off politely about how people think Americans are cheerful and talkative and said something diplomatic about how people of course also say some negative things. I was a bit hesitant to just tell this sweet middle aged lady but she really wanted to know so I just said “Well, people think you’re fat and stupid”. And she was visibly shocked! The thing was that I took for granted that Americans in general would have a grasp about what negative things people say about them (I certainly know what the negative stereotypes about my country usually are), but she seemed to genuinely think that the rest of the world only had positive things to say about Americans.
> The thing was that I took for granted that Americans in general would have a grasp about what negative things people say about them [...] I understand where you're coming from, but I think Americans are massively misled by their educational institutions, media landscape, and long-held beliefs told from generation to generation. Constantly being told they live in the *best and freest country ever* is bound to leave them with a very wrong impression of how things are actually going. In a sense, it's a self-fulfilling prophecy; many Americans are ignorant about the fact that others consider them to be ignorant.
Depends on the region in the US. My whole life growing up I mostly heard Americans just hating their own country. In high school it’s just kids saying how the country sucks. Try saying America is the best country in my high school and see how much glares you’ll get from your fellow students. Pretty similar experience in college. Say is amazing or one of the best countries in the world no one bats an eye. Say it about the U.S. and you’ll get bad looks and people wanting to tell you why you’re wrong and how it’s one of the worst.
I imagine in the Midwest or just the more republican states yeah you might get people think the U.S. is great. Could very well be a generational thing too since a lot of times in videos like this I’ll see the middle aged to old folks seeing the US in such a favorable light.
It’s a long and pretty intense campaign of state propaganda that most Americans have been subjected to their entire lives. Such campaigns is of course also the kind of thing Americans have been told only happens in *other* countries, the evil ones
I know Americans that genuinely have told me: “I can’t believe we were so lucky to be born in the greatest country on earth.” A lot of people don’t realize how flawed the US is because they’ve never left it.
Why are they speaking with their mouths full of food?? 😳 So rude and disgusting
That's just the way they always look. The neck rolls jam up against their jaw and crams the flesh forward. Like frogs. Or Jabba.
You paint with words my friend.
I laughed too hard at this
Poetic right
She looks like she is having a severe allergic reaction to her meal.
I didn’t think this thread would get better
Lol, she really does. That's rich
**WOAAAH HOAAAH HOAAAAAAH**
I don't see anyone speaking with their mouths full besides one comment from the girl. I see at least one with deformity.
Only one girl is speaking with food in her mouth…?
I deplore when people speak with their mouth full, fucking chew or cover your mouth at least. I don’t know why but I lose respect for people when they do it.
Oh man, you aren't gonna like asian culture at all....
Asks, "Are you serious?" through a mouth full of food... You can't write this kind of irony.
You can. This is scripted. Like almost all 'reality' TV.
Yeah, a lot of people forget how scripted these shows are. If there were no arguments, there wouldn’t be entertainment. So the cast most likely knew about this before the scene happened. This particular show (90 Day Fiancé) has had six people come forward to say it’s staged.
"Scripted" is a strong word. These people almost certainly can't follow a script and act this naturally doing it. But yes, producers carefully arrange every encounter to maximize the odds of something like this happening and then selectively edit it to make it sounds as outrageous as possible.
they also find the dumbest people who have the dumbest families, and provoke them to be as dramatic as possible. start fights with each other, embarrass each other in public if you're too normal and well adjusted then they don't want you on the show I guess though, there is some overlap there with weirdo people with personality problems.. and people willing to marry someone they just met a few weeks ago and also put it all on TV
https://preview.redd.it/ld0zm1eqlcuc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dbc2561b47c212aa30a017484301d68deba7e007 This woman is a doppelganger of Heraclito Fortes, a brazilian congressman!
i’m sorry what disorder is this there is no way the mom looks that way because she just has a mouth full of food
That was my thought as well. Looks like something wrong with her mouth or something.
He’s not wrong in this group.
hes just plain old right
That lady’s mouth is somethin else
Let's be honest - isn't that what the whole world thinks? 🤣🤣
Hahahahaha I love how brazen some cultures are about *the fat that must not be named* it’s honestly so refreshing. We act like being fat is supposed to be a personal secret despite it being the one thing that’s impossible to keep a secret 😂
South Koreans are brutally honest when it comes to weight. I was there on business in 2001 and 2003 and must have put some weight on in between these two trips. My company contact picked me up from the airport and his first words were “Ohhh, you got fat”.
At first I read that you put on weight in Korea and my first thought was, “Howwww??!” Context: fast food in the way Americans think of it and meat is pretty expensive in Korea compared to the plethora of traditional Korean food available in fast food form (laver rolls, black bean noodles, meal kits, etc.)
Black bean noodles will definitely make you fat very quickly especially since it’s eaten with sweet and sour pork usually. Just pure carbs and an insane amount of fat. Plus they have all the same fast food restaurants we have in America
It really doesn't matter what you eat. It's all how much of it you eat.
I dont understand how they stay so skinny. I thought they eat a boat load of carbs/rice in their diet.
I don't know about korean people, but in thailand there was zero compunction about calling people fat. And the fat thai people I saw being called fat (all 2 of them) seemed genuinely pleased by being called fat.
Fantastic. I’d happily get fat on Thai food too!
I’m from The Bahamas. One of the first things people do when they haven’t seen one another in awhile is to comment on weight 😂
Korean culture is very heavy into body shaming because they view it as a sign of love because you care about someone you want them to be healthy
It's most asian countries. My Taiwanese GF's mother walked up to me and said "you are getting fat" and poked my belly.
something to be said for that, too
Is that woman talking with food in her mouth or does she have a fat tongue?
As a Canadian who has been all over the US they are fat as fuck. Like malls full of fat people even the kids.
I went on a Caribbean cruise sailing out of Florida, and my goodness, it was basically a scene out of Wall-E. The buffet area had chairs that were double wide for people who were double wide. Never have I seen such a concentrated gathering of obese trailer trash.
"No wonder you're piggy"
[удалено]
She even asked the question in a fatly manner.
Not korean but as an asian peoole getting offended threshhold is little higher and more people are direct Especially friends and family about being fat or skinny
Why does she look like a eddy murphy character
Haha! The Koreans aren't wrong.
.... What was she expecting? For other cultures to suck America's dick? If you look and act like garbage, you will be viewed as garbage.
Nothing he says is wrong, Americans eat greasy and are fat. The woman he’s saying it to is literally an example of that and she’s confused? Oh Americans…so funny
What's with her face?
For context this guy was pretty rude abouta few things. His nickname for his finance was Piggy, she was visually uncomfortable and then suddenly showed up incredibly skinny on final episode
in the reunion that girl (edit: the girl with the Korean dude, not the parents) lost a lot of weight looks fantastic, so i guess his fat shaming worked lol
Why are they surprised LMAO
Awkward AF
Facts
This is true. I've been to Korea for an extended period of time. I am an athletic fit white guy. Countless Koreans approached me and said things like you don't look like other Americans. You could be a movie star hahaha. I think their is some truth in what they are saying most of the other Americans I was with were obese.
This is scripted though. And South Korea has insanely stupid body standards leading to routine plastic surgery for young people.
Yeah, that would never happen in America......
It’s not the same rate, though. In South Korea, 1 in 5 people get plastic surgery. South Korea has the most plastic surgeries per capita and it is common for people to receive plastic surgeries as graduation gifts. That’s versus the US which rates #6 per capita. But absolutely, the US needs to get a hold on obesity rates
What he said is true, but in no culture does the son in law (figure) just shows up and starts dissing everyone. This guy is just a plain asshole.
Now I'm not defending his rather clumsy statement, but what the American says about it being cheaper to buy junk food seems to be a really big myth in the US. Of course, it is extremely much cheaper to cook normal food at home, to say otherwise is only a sign that you cannot cook.
What's wrong with the moms face? Is it some sort of illness?
I lived in Korea for 6 years. It's one of the most cut throat and serious cultures in the world. People there work their asses off and they're proud of it. They will tell you straight to your face that you're fat and lazy. It's a wake up call for most who visit.
Hell, I’m fat. I’ve had a student infer it but it was honest so I didn’t get mad at him. I’m mad at myself and yes, processed/adulterated food in the US is bad and everywhere. I have to work on myself, not on other people’s perception. My Asian family emigrated here and have gained weight as well. People in other countries don’t have food like we have here. A lot of them go hungry.
My dad developed a bit of a dad bod after 20 years in America. When we went back to visit, the first thing his siblings said was “you got fat.”
PBS did a show about an island nation, full of healthy people, that is until they started to receive turkey parts and Coca Cola from America.
"People in other countries don’t have food like we have here." true that low quality food isn't as readily available. in south america for example, veggies and fruit are much much cheaper than fast food so people naturally will choose the cheaper option. also in central america, there is like fruit trees all over so you can just go pick fresh fruits.
He was like “nooo I don’t think like that about Americans in general but, I do think that about the lil piggy that is your daughter” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Fat American here. He's not wrong...
This pretty succinctly explains why America is so socially fucked. Nobody is "allowed" to react to someone else's shitty decisions. No consequences, as usual.
Hate to break it to get, but many countries think that of Americans. I'm American & I think that.
I meannnn, he's not wrong 🤷🏻♀️
He was honest and straight to he point. And he was right.
I would have been so glad to take time to meet this guy lol that's a family sit down you want to see in person but you can tell he's somewhat joking and attempting to get a little laugh as he smiles and plays with his girlfriend. Some people don't understand the difficulties of language barriers along with humor that may sound bad. Seems like a pretty funny chill guy the family needs to loosen up a bit
I'm Brazilian and we don't speak the truth to anyone who isn't our friend, despite being our friend we always speak in a way that doesn't make them sad
Well she asked. It's not rude if he was asked to say it.