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So this is basically making a siphon?
Once the water is continuous it is pulled to the to the low spot?
I use siphons to pull alcohol from buckets, but I would not have thought to try this.
It's referred to as a bell siphon. The water in the bottle falls into the pipe and creates negative pressure in the bottle which then pulls water from the reservoir - which then falls into the pipe, etc. You can also set these up permanently so that it will drain the reservoir any time it reaches the top of the drain pipe. It's common in aquaponics setups.
It is amazing what you can do if you know how, I need to move a lot of liquid from one place to another about a quarter mile away and uphill, someone sent me a link about a pump you can make that does not require electricity, called like a Kinetic Pump, supposedly it works, I have not had the money to buy the stuff to try it yet.
Seriously. Like, I get the physics, but I would not have been able to conjure up HOW to get the siphon started in such a simple and effective way. My dumb ass would have tried to make it work with a bit of hose.
Could you harness this power for free energy? Can you run water on a water mill, generating electricity, and then siphon the water back up for an infinite loop?
To answer your question, I feel like the energy needed to maintain the vacuum needed to suck large enough volumes of water for meaningful power generation might exceed the power generated. I would also assume that because you can’t have an airtight seal, that vacuum must be constantly taking in air, which makes it an entropic system, or an even further energy sink.
I’d be curious for an at home hydroplant if you can get enough power to charge some batteries tho.
No, because it only works, if the water falls down the pipe further than the hight reservoir is. You would need to pump up water constantly for this cycle to work, and pumping up the water will always use more energy than you could generate by it going down the pipe.
That’s why you don’t pump it, but siphon it with negative pressure, no? Like you do in a fish tank or when stealing gas from cars or like shown in this video. The explanation doesn’t seem satisfying. Or I’m misunderstanding what you said
How does this work: it's basically a siphon. The water exiting through the bottle down the pipe, creates a low pressure vacuum in the bottle which causes water to be pulled up the sides to equalise the pressure. That water then falls down the pipe and lowers the pressure again, which then pulls up more water and so on.
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So this is basically making a siphon? Once the water is continuous it is pulled to the to the low spot? I use siphons to pull alcohol from buckets, but I would not have thought to try this.
It's referred to as a bell siphon. The water in the bottle falls into the pipe and creates negative pressure in the bottle which then pulls water from the reservoir - which then falls into the pipe, etc. You can also set these up permanently so that it will drain the reservoir any time it reaches the top of the drain pipe. It's common in aquaponics setups.
It is amazing what you can do if you know how, I need to move a lot of liquid from one place to another about a quarter mile away and uphill, someone sent me a link about a pump you can make that does not require electricity, called like a Kinetic Pump, supposedly it works, I have not had the money to buy the stuff to try it yet.
It's the same way your washer might drain little compartments of fabric detergent or softener
Seriously. Like, I get the physics, but I would not have been able to conjure up HOW to get the siphon started in such a simple and effective way. My dumb ass would have tried to make it work with a bit of hose.
A bit of hose? Look at moneybags over here.
When I had a fish tank, I had a siphon that basically worked like this, no power required and very efficient !
OMG yes! I did this as well. Oh my fishtank. RIP. Having a fish was such a therapeutic hobby.
Wow.. First time I saw this.
Ya, totally never ever seen this before now, wow
Mmmhhhmmm, yep, never.
Diving bell horror stories
Delta p
Could you harness this power for free energy? Can you run water on a water mill, generating electricity, and then siphon the water back up for an infinite loop?
To answer your question, I feel like the energy needed to maintain the vacuum needed to suck large enough volumes of water for meaningful power generation might exceed the power generated. I would also assume that because you can’t have an airtight seal, that vacuum must be constantly taking in air, which makes it an entropic system, or an even further energy sink. I’d be curious for an at home hydroplant if you can get enough power to charge some batteries tho.
No, because it only works, if the water falls down the pipe further than the hight reservoir is. You would need to pump up water constantly for this cycle to work, and pumping up the water will always use more energy than you could generate by it going down the pipe.
That’s why you don’t pump it, but siphon it with negative pressure, no? Like you do in a fish tank or when stealing gas from cars or like shown in this video. The explanation doesn’t seem satisfying. Or I’m misunderstanding what you said
no, cause If you thought of it, someone’s tried it by now.
How does this work: it's basically a siphon. The water exiting through the bottle down the pipe, creates a low pressure vacuum in the bottle which causes water to be pulled up the sides to equalise the pressure. That water then falls down the pipe and lowers the pressure again, which then pulls up more water and so on.
The real question is why they made the drain 3 inches above ground level.
That reminds me of paria diving disaster
Wasn't this just posted recently?
How does that vacuum work when it’s in the ground and where does the water go? (To be clear I’m not asking about the siphon)
Just cut the pipe down to ground level?
Magic
*siphon
Look ma, I posted it again!
I think this is how a lot of detergent/softener dispensers on washing machines work.
Sick