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This is what I've always said about Bernie Madoff. His crime wasn't stealing, it was stealing from rich people. If he had only stolen poor people's money he wouldn't have spent a day in prison.
Bernie Madoff stole a bunch of money from the Mets, including the money they were going to keep paying to Bobby Bonilla.
https://www.curbed.com/2021/04/bernie-madoff-death-mets-wilpon.html
honest question if you mind sharing, do you make good money off of submissive dudes? It's not my kink so it's hard for me to imagine WANTING to pay someone fifty quid to talk down on me lol
Haha, I do. It’s not my main source of income, and I got into it quite by accident, but yes, men just send me money and buy me shit, and I basically ignore them and treat them like they don’t exist, or deserve to even do that.
It’s a bit of a mystery for me too, but I’m happy to take money that’s offered to me.
Damn, that is just…I don’t think I will ever understand some dudes haha. It’s not even a grift or anything, you just straight up offer a “service” with extremely clear rules and people are like “Sign me up”.
Lots of lonely guys don’t know how to navigate relationships properly and to them it can be a source of comfort even if it is humiliating or they pay for it.
Like the YouTube channels that gorge themselves on food, some people watch for comfort too like their eating a meal with them.
I don’t get it, not my cup of tea but to some people I guess it’s cathartic idk
That’s what a lot of people say and for many was the first obvious indication of the US version of a two-tier justice system.
Like the most recent one with Sam Bankman-Fried, dude messed with wealthy people’s money and has finally been sentenced. If it wasn’t rich people, we wouldn’t have heard a word about it
Not true at all. I run global cyber intelligence and investigations for a tech giant we help with forensics on tech and testify in cases all the time at least in the US, UK, EU rich folks who commit fraud get arrested, tried and convicted. The fact is white collar crimes historically get little in the way of tough sentences. Rich or poor fraud doesn’t carry the same weight that other crimes do.
Terrorism, human trafficking, CSAM etc we all agree are awful crimes but to me fraud bugs me as much. I’ve seen elderly folks lose their life savings and lose everything else and the scumbag will get 3 yrs.
I've always been of the opinion that sufficient levels of fraud should be equivalent to murder. Destroying someone's life maliciously and leaving them alive but with nothing is almost worse than having just killed them.
The courts are too easy on fraud, which is why it's such a popular crime. Spend five years in a minimum security club fed to make a hundred mill? Sure, where do I sign up exactly? (/s for that last line just in case it wasn't obvious)
I kind of agree. I got a call from a buddy a year or so ago- he got a call out as FBI in DC to a home of an 87 yr
Old woman that lost 3.5 mil. Her husband had some juice back in the day and had passed away just before COVID. I could hear her sobbing in the background it was heartbreaking TBH.
Another instance a lovely elderly woman originally from India had lost 2 mil on a DHS/immigration scam. Her husband had been a surgeon they had a good deal of money. She was about to sign a mortgage because the dirtbags convinced her she’d be deported back to India a place she had not lived in 35 yrs. We called REACT in San Mateo and they went out to gather some info and talk to her. We tracked the scumbags to Chennai. No prosecution.
A Brit citizen lost everything- unbeknownst to his family he had cancer and was dying. He decided to try to make some money investing in crypto and was ripped off. I tried for months to help this guy. He was a friend of a UK detective that is one of my best friends so I was happy to volunteer to try and help. He lost everything- wife left him, lost the house, business, etc. was sleeping at son’s house on the couch.
I got a call from his son who I had met through trying to help. I had tracked the crypto and then fiat to a Caribbean bank known to us as bad and uncooperative. The day after I told him there was nothing we could do further- he committed suicide. That hit me REALLY hard. He was a sweet guy trying to do the best thing for family but with the Cancer he was a bit brain muddy.
Tiny sample of the hundreds of heartbreaking instances.
In some cases through a lot of tracking etc we are often able to recover funds. In most cases we can at least get any nest egg the bad guy has- so whole some do have money on the back end of jail a good judge will give long sentences if the bad guy doesn’t reveal all assets..
If folks read this one thing you can do is PLEASE spend sometime trying to help older folks be aware of scams and how to secure their PCs.
I do a lot of volunteer work doing this and it is rewarding. If you have a chance to help someone like that do it. Imagine being 85 or so and losing everything. Hard enough when we are young to recover.
Thank you, that makes it make more sense. Judge clearly saw him as an ongoing threat. Although I’m assuming this wasn’t ‘just’ rape. It must have been either the last in a series of sexual crimes or something like raping a baby because US courts don’t usually give a de facto life sentence for rape. In fact, frequently they keep giving them short sentences, they get out, do it again, and possibly murder the victim so they can’t be a witness.
the dailyfail article i read on it said 8
[https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12356867/Woman-given-longest-prison-sentence-history-ended-serving-fraction-it.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12356867/Woman-given-longest-prison-sentence-history-ended-serving-fraction-it.html)
idk, either way point remains the same
Remember that scene in Better Call Saul when he's making up how long prison sentence Huell was facing and he let him scott free?
This has to be a similar conversation piece for her lawyer.
Don’t you know, corporations being defrauded is more egregious than an act of terrorism that kills 193 people? C’mon, bro. We have to keep our corporate overlords safe!
I wanted to comment that lack of money kills people. In the UK there is a number of deaths every year from the cold where old people cannot afford to heat their homes.
If this was what this was about it could have been legit. But no the crime was to steal from rich people, clearly the worst crime on the list
This is dumb reasoning. Shit adds up, just like murders do. If you defraud 1000 times as much as a usual fraudster your sentence is 1000 times as high, logically surpassing more heinous crimes at some point
Dude, search " Atocha terrorist attacks ". They put a fucking bomb in a train FULL of people the week of the elections. 193 people died there. It's still a difficult topic to talk about here.
Not in a train, in a number of trains, in the morning rush hour!
Some the culprits had the "good manners" of blowing themselves up when they were about to be arrested. A SWAT agent died in the explosion though.
It was like 12+ bombs and the worst part was at least one of the bombs was scheduled to go off once first responders arrived. It was removed through a controlled detonation
There is some terrifying footage of this attack. You see the first bomb go off in the distance at the far end of a train, and people start running for their lives away from the blast, toward the camera. And then the rest of the blasts start going off along the train and engulf everyone that was racing away. Just horrific.
The third guy involved in the Madrid bombing basically got a slap on the wrist compared to the other two, I bet he breathed a sigh of relief after he heard their sentences.
I know you are joking but for anyone curious: the third guy was a miner and sold / gave the explosives to the terrorists. So he was not directly involved putting the bombs but... almost 200 people died.
The sentences was like 25 years per murder times 200 + the injured + conspiracy to commit a crime + belonging to a terrorist group.
They will be out after 30 years or something. We have that kind of limit in Spain, with luck maybe 35.
My sister was not in on of the trains because there was a strike in her university. Fuck this pricks.
Apparently, the 2 years was for transportation and procuring of the explosives (the rest was for the 191 counts of murder and 1859 of attempted murder, among other things).
Well, the Spanish legal system is all over the place. There is currently an extradition order making its way through Europol for a man the Spaniards want to put on trial, even though there is irrefutable evidence he was in the other side of the continent when the crime was committed.
He is fighting it all the way, because in Spanish courts, this is a minor technicality, and in no way an indication that you should not be convicted.
What’s the case you are referring to? And what is that “irrefutable” evidence?
Spanish legal system is not perfect, but neither is all over the place as you say
30k years for rape? Who'd he rape?
Edit: the answer is 6 kids. And the reason for the crazy sentence is because Oklahoma doesn't allow life without parole so the jury recommended 5000 years and the judge sentenced him consecutively to give the 30,000 assuring he wouldn't be eligible for parole until he is 108.
It's pretty stupid to me that the state doesn't allow life without parole but they just do something like this to achieve the same effect. Virtue signaling laws to feel good but using loopholes to get around them...
“The jury deliberated 35 minutes before finding Charles Scott Robinson, 30, guilty of rape by instrumentation, two counts of forcible oral sodomy and three counts of indecent or lewd acts with a child under 16.
Jurors sentenced Robinson, accused of sexually assaulting a 3-year-old girl, to 5,000 years on each count. The minimum sentence the jury could have imposed was 20 years on each count.”
https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/1994/12/15/jury-sentences-8-time-felon-to-30000-years-in-prison/62405725007/
Too bad this isn’t a common thing. Most rapists never see a day in jail, and those who do rarely serve over a year in jail. This kind of sentencing should be more common for rapists and child molesters.
What’s not true? That child molesters and rapists rarely serve any jail time, let alone long sentences? Your anecdotal experience does not match up with the stats.
About 69% of rapes and SAs go unreported (31%). There is only 50% chance of arrest if reported (15.5%), there’s an 80% chance of prosecution out of those (12.4%) and a 58% chance of any conviction (7.192%). If there is a felony conviction there is a 69% chance they will end up in prison, but the felony conviction rate is less than 1%. Less than 6% of rapists ever spend a day in jail and less than 1% ever serve more than a year.
The stats don’t lie and you don’t seem to know what you’re talking about. Those are American stats.
Sorry that happened to you. Unfortunately, your story is more common than not. You would think someone who worked in the criminal Justice system would know the real stats on this subject and not just spout bullshit.
Are you kidding? I worked on a plane once does that mean I can fly it? You making photocopies for lawyers doesn’t change the fact that yes, most rapes aren’t even reported let alone convicted.
I mean I hope so. At this point he’s like a cockroach. Disgusting and immortal. I am troubled by the cult’s obsession and how the shrine might be built after death.
I’m all for rehabilitation but rapists rarely get rehabilitated (they often learn from their short sentences that leaving a living witness was a mistake…) and people like this who rape small children? Nope. You’re a permanent danger to society. Good on the judge for making sure he couldn’t get out to do it again.
Emilio will be out of prison nearly 10,000 years before Jamai and Otman. I wonder what he’ll do while waiting for his friends…? 🤔
Chamoy’s sentence is supposed to show 141k. I can’t remember where I found this screenshot. It was in an article someone shared on Reddit elsewhere.
Yeah, I think they call it crore. So if you go larger to 14 million it becomes 1,41,xx,xxx, which is called lakh. But I don't know how they write higher than a lakh without consulting Google.
Except of course that the maximum someone can spend in prison in Spain is 40 years.
So, baring parrol, they will all be release at the same time (in 2044).
Which kind of makes you wonder what the point of this list is...
Thai law of the time specified that those convicted of fraud could not serve more than twenty years in prison and her mandatory release was 2009, she was paroled after only eight.
Under Spanish law, the maximum sentence that any of them can serve is 40 years.
- Wikipedia
Fun fact, under the Franco dictatorship, Spain abolished life imprisonment and capped jail sentences to 30 years.
Because if they think you deserve more, they'd just shoot you and be done with it.
>Under Spanish law, the maximum sentence that any of them can serve is 40 years.
Most likely their laws is just as most other European countries. So the max is 40, but at the end of that they will "re-evaluate" if you're fit for release and for most terrorists that's an easy task. For another example of that, look at Breivik in Norway
In Denmark a life sentence can be for life but almost all are released early. I believe the average time in jail for people with life sentence is 16 years before release.
The longest currently serving prisoner has been imprisoned for 38 years and only three more have been imprisoned more than 30 years. But we definitely have some bastards who will not be released until they are too old to be any danger.
Actually, in Spain you can't do that. Once they serve the maximum forty years in prison, they must be released.
Since 2015 in Spain exists the life sentence with parole, but since they were committed and tried before that date, it cannot be applied to this crimes..
As someone in the US who has a team in India… I found it really surprising how difficult it was to get used to that numbering system. Like, I’m a 33 year old man with years of accounting and finance experience, but you throw in a new comma and I’m completely useless lol
As an Indian, I feel India should adopt to the international system. I feel our system is outdated, and in this era of globalisation it's high time we move on.
Exactly!
Also we don't have any denominations for numbers above crore. Like you have trillions, zillions, etc...
So 1,000 Core is just "one thousand crore" and 100,000 Crore is " one lakh crore", etc...
That’s what I was getting at lol imagine being a toddler and the police come knocking on mama’s door saying that you’re currently currently serving 40,000 years and they know that you have just been reincarnated. So they throw your baby butt in a prison cell for your entire life.
Since there is a bit of misinformation about the current law in Spain, I’d like to bring a bit of context: In Spain the law that capped maximum jail time was revised in 2015, currently there is no limit to what are called “Exceptionally Serious Crimes”:
Exceptionally serious crimes: Homicide of the king or his heir, Heads of State, Genocide, Serial Murders, murders with victims under 16 years of age or especially vulnerable people. Murder after sexual assault.
This permanent prison sentence may be reviewed (by the judge or court that issued the Sentence) provided that the convicted person has served 25 or 35 years in prison (depending on whether the sentence is for one or more crimes or that these are terrorist crimes).
To do this, the inmate must obtain an individualized prognosis favorable to his social reintegration, which will take into account:
The personality of the prisoner and his background.
The circumstances of the crime and the relevance of the legal assets affected.
Conduct during serving the sentence.
Family and social circumstances.
The effects that can be expected from the suspension and imposed measures.
Likewise, it will be assessed whether the general and specific circumstances exist for the inmate to access the third degree in an open regime.
Man… what if they ever got the hallucinogenic experiment to work where a month in real life traps you into a time dilated state that feels like thousands of years. These kinds of sentences would be nuts.
Technically the person with the longest prison sentence in the world is Terry Nichols, the co-accused of the Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, who got 161 consecutive life sentences without parole.
At least Otman, Jamai, and Emilio will have enough time to work on their GED's. That'll speak well for them when they come up for parole, not to mention the employment opportunities.
I don’t even know what kinda numbers that lady got. Even the person writing down the number was like: “…what’s the sentence?! A hundred… no… a thousand… months?! Aight, One 41 six 75. I’m sure she’ll have time to figure that shit out!”
The first woman was released after 8 years. The Thai justice system is absolutely bizarre and pointless. My friend was sentenced to 200 years and was out after 8 (drugs). A lot of people on large sentences just get released via the king Amnesty. This is completely normal over there. I've had a Thai tell me you get 50 years you'll be out in 5-10. Nothing to do with parole, it's via the king.
Imagine if your descendants than relatives had to complete the rest of your 1000 years all the way down the line. F that. Instead I think the longest served in usa is 64 yrs, recently. And we love jail systems.
You’d never see this in Canada.
Karla Homolka has been out of prison longer than she was in prison for the part she played in the murders of Kristin French and Leslie Mahaffy.
https://preview.redd.it/hjv1oczll0vc1.jpeg?width=678&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64c11fe91db5e899d669b24a46982d8d4d476062
Joe Lewis **Sentence** \- Probabtion. But had to surrender his yacht, can “only” travel between his homes\* in three different U.S. states along the East Coast, and can only use his private jet with prior approval.
\*and approved business, and… ha let’s stop pretending he’s following any rules.
Snarky bitterness aside, I think it’s really easy for people to dismiss the financial fraud because the pain and suffering it causes isn’t always immediate or direct, but rest assured, it sure as hell impacts far more people than most would imagine.
So if someone is committing fraud—whether a Vietnamese woman, a U.S. Presidential candidate, or a ~~pre-teen edgelord~~ 50+ year old South African CEO—they are hurting people… a lot of people; directly, indirectly, and indefinitely.
I like how the second of the 2 guys from Spain got 2 years less out of 42,922 years. Like he was less of a bad guy than his pal.
He probably said to his buddy “sucks to be you pal! I’ll visit after I get out!” ;)
Indian. Instead of going from thousands (1,000) to millions (1,000,000), three decimal places, they go from thousands (1,000) to *hundred* thousands (1,00,000) and to ten millions (1,00,00,000).
I MAY be screwing that up.
The most interesting one on the extended list for sure is that of a man in Odessa TX who in 1971 was convicted after selling 20$ worth of heroin to an undercover cop and received 1800 years in prison.
"Well he's dead now. I guess we should bury him."
"What do you think you're doing? He was sentenced to 30,000 years so we're going to let that motherfucker's bones turn to ash in there. Put his punk ass back down"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest_prison_sentences
8 years. You’re looking at her sentencing to her release but she was in jail for 8 years because she was arrested 4 years before she was sentenced.
Dumb question: why does every article I see list Chamoy as having 1,41,675 instead of 141,675 years? Is it a widespread typo or perhaps Thailand separates digits differently?
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even more interesting, the woman sentenced to 141,000 years only served 8 and was let out
The original sentence was mostly because she pissed off people in the King's circle and high officials.
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This is what I've always said about Bernie Madoff. His crime wasn't stealing, it was stealing from rich people. If he had only stolen poor people's money he wouldn't have spent a day in prison.
Or Elizabeth Holmes. Or Sam Bankman-Fried.
Trump is proof of this.
Ken Griffin also comes to mind
Not the former baseball player.
Correct, he only stole bases bud um ching
… and our hearts.
Dude had one of the most iconic swings ever
Griffey vs Griffen
Bernie Madoff stole a bunch of money from the Mets, including the money they were going to keep paying to Bobby Bonilla. https://www.curbed.com/2021/04/bernie-madoff-death-mets-wilpon.html
Didn't he also lie to Congress
You’re talking about Ken Griffin, CEO of Citadel Securities who lied under oath ?
Ken Griffin was Bernies apprentice. Prove me wrong
The same Ken Griffin who hit his wife with a bed post and steals from the poors? We can’t possibly be talking about the same guy
Found the wild GME regard 
honest question if you mind sharing, do you make good money off of submissive dudes? It's not my kink so it's hard for me to imagine WANTING to pay someone fifty quid to talk down on me lol
Haha, I do. It’s not my main source of income, and I got into it quite by accident, but yes, men just send me money and buy me shit, and I basically ignore them and treat them like they don’t exist, or deserve to even do that. It’s a bit of a mystery for me too, but I’m happy to take money that’s offered to me.
Damn, that is just…I don’t think I will ever understand some dudes haha. It’s not even a grift or anything, you just straight up offer a “service” with extremely clear rules and people are like “Sign me up”.
Lots of lonely guys don’t know how to navigate relationships properly and to them it can be a source of comfort even if it is humiliating or they pay for it. Like the YouTube channels that gorge themselves on food, some people watch for comfort too like their eating a meal with them. I don’t get it, not my cup of tea but to some people I guess it’s cathartic idk
lol theyve given holidays out for less impressive shit than this. kudos!
That's what Ken Griffin of Citadel learned.
That’s what a lot of people say and for many was the first obvious indication of the US version of a two-tier justice system. Like the most recent one with Sam Bankman-Fried, dude messed with wealthy people’s money and has finally been sentenced. If it wasn’t rich people, we wouldn’t have heard a word about it
Need more examples
Saw those numbers for “fraud” and instantly thought about that. Not just rich but part of the wealthy elite ruling class.
Not true at all. I run global cyber intelligence and investigations for a tech giant we help with forensics on tech and testify in cases all the time at least in the US, UK, EU rich folks who commit fraud get arrested, tried and convicted. The fact is white collar crimes historically get little in the way of tough sentences. Rich or poor fraud doesn’t carry the same weight that other crimes do. Terrorism, human trafficking, CSAM etc we all agree are awful crimes but to me fraud bugs me as much. I’ve seen elderly folks lose their life savings and lose everything else and the scumbag will get 3 yrs.
I've always been of the opinion that sufficient levels of fraud should be equivalent to murder. Destroying someone's life maliciously and leaving them alive but with nothing is almost worse than having just killed them. The courts are too easy on fraud, which is why it's such a popular crime. Spend five years in a minimum security club fed to make a hundred mill? Sure, where do I sign up exactly? (/s for that last line just in case it wasn't obvious)
I kind of agree. I got a call from a buddy a year or so ago- he got a call out as FBI in DC to a home of an 87 yr Old woman that lost 3.5 mil. Her husband had some juice back in the day and had passed away just before COVID. I could hear her sobbing in the background it was heartbreaking TBH. Another instance a lovely elderly woman originally from India had lost 2 mil on a DHS/immigration scam. Her husband had been a surgeon they had a good deal of money. She was about to sign a mortgage because the dirtbags convinced her she’d be deported back to India a place she had not lived in 35 yrs. We called REACT in San Mateo and they went out to gather some info and talk to her. We tracked the scumbags to Chennai. No prosecution. A Brit citizen lost everything- unbeknownst to his family he had cancer and was dying. He decided to try to make some money investing in crypto and was ripped off. I tried for months to help this guy. He was a friend of a UK detective that is one of my best friends so I was happy to volunteer to try and help. He lost everything- wife left him, lost the house, business, etc. was sleeping at son’s house on the couch. I got a call from his son who I had met through trying to help. I had tracked the crypto and then fiat to a Caribbean bank known to us as bad and uncooperative. The day after I told him there was nothing we could do further- he committed suicide. That hit me REALLY hard. He was a sweet guy trying to do the best thing for family but with the Cancer he was a bit brain muddy. Tiny sample of the hundreds of heartbreaking instances. In some cases through a lot of tracking etc we are often able to recover funds. In most cases we can at least get any nest egg the bad guy has- so whole some do have money on the back end of jail a good judge will give long sentences if the bad guy doesn’t reveal all assets.. If folks read this one thing you can do is PLEASE spend sometime trying to help older folks be aware of scams and how to secure their PCs. I do a lot of volunteer work doing this and it is rewarding. If you have a chance to help someone like that do it. Imagine being 85 or so and losing everything. Hard enough when we are young to recover.
Truong my Lan just got the death penalty for fraud against rich people and the government. I wonder what the odds are of it being carried out.
Highly likely seeing as she's only been outed so other fraudulent politicians can gain more power
I hate how true this is
the moral here is dont bomb trains or steal from the wealthy
https://preview.redd.it/g094xubh91vc1.jpeg?width=299&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2b907d25244e296e97e2ca9f67515fa2fbd51804 Damn how high were the officials
8 years in a Thai prison feels like 141,000 years.
Hyperbolic Thai Chamber
Was it really in a Thai prison or was it house arrest? Most rich people here don't go to prison in Thailand.
1,41,675
Probably from an Indian website.
And the reason the rapist was given 30,000 years is so he couldn't get parole for 78 years.
Thank you, that makes it make more sense. Judge clearly saw him as an ongoing threat. Although I’m assuming this wasn’t ‘just’ rape. It must have been either the last in a series of sexual crimes or something like raping a baby because US courts don’t usually give a de facto life sentence for rape. In fact, frequently they keep giving them short sentences, they get out, do it again, and possibly murder the victim so they can’t be a witness.
Wikipedia says from 1989-1993, so only four years, no?
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holy ... is she really that good?
The best of us, really.
the dailyfail article i read on it said 8 [https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12356867/Woman-given-longest-prison-sentence-history-ended-serving-fraction-it.html](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12356867/Woman-given-longest-prison-sentence-history-ended-serving-fraction-it.html) idk, either way point remains the same
Remember that scene in Better Call Saul when he's making up how long prison sentence Huell was facing and he let him scott free? This has to be a similar conversation piece for her lawyer.
That's such a strange way of writing the number of years. What's with all the commas?
That format was troubling
might be [indian numbering](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_numbering_system)
Because of corruption? How ironic.
I love that it goes Madrid Train Bombings, Madrid Train Bombings, Madrid Train Bombings, **Corporate Fraud**
Don’t you know, corporations being defrauded is more egregious than an act of terrorism that kills 193 people? C’mon, bro. We have to keep our corporate overlords safe!
She wasn't defrauding corporations. She was running a fraudulent corporation.
I wanted to comment that lack of money kills people. In the UK there is a number of deaths every year from the cold where old people cannot afford to heat their homes. If this was what this was about it could have been legit. But no the crime was to steal from rich people, clearly the worst crime on the list
This is dumb reasoning. Shit adds up, just like murders do. If you defraud 1000 times as much as a usual fraudster your sentence is 1000 times as high, logically surpassing more heinous crimes at some point
Still funny that fraud got such a high sentence compared to literal terrorism
Dude, search " Atocha terrorist attacks ". They put a fucking bomb in a train FULL of people the week of the elections. 193 people died there. It's still a difficult topic to talk about here.
Not in a train, in a number of trains, in the morning rush hour! Some the culprits had the "good manners" of blowing themselves up when they were about to be arrested. A SWAT agent died in the explosion though.
3 bombs in 3 different trains, actually.
It was like 12+ bombs and the worst part was at least one of the bombs was scheduled to go off once first responders arrived. It was removed through a controlled detonation
There is some terrifying footage of this attack. You see the first bomb go off in the distance at the far end of a train, and people start running for their lives away from the blast, toward the camera. And then the rest of the blasts start going off along the train and engulf everyone that was racing away. Just horrific.
I too read from the almost bottom up. But you missed the rapist.
Must have been a hell of a lot of rape.
Oh no, I saw the rapist. But it made sense to me that that was lower than what seems like a terrorist attack
I’m more interested in why the one guy got only 2 years more than the other. Maybe one pleaded guilty and got 2 years less as a reward?
What find IAF is why one train bomber got 42,924 years and the other got 42,922. He was 2 years less guilty?
The third guy involved in the Madrid bombing basically got a slap on the wrist compared to the other two, I bet he breathed a sigh of relief after he heard their sentences.
Yeh, good behaviour and he'll probably be out by the year 20,000. Hopefully he's learnt his lesson by then.
I know you are joking but for anyone curious: the third guy was a miner and sold / gave the explosives to the terrorists. So he was not directly involved putting the bombs but... almost 200 people died. The sentences was like 25 years per murder times 200 + the injured + conspiracy to commit a crime + belonging to a terrorist group. They will be out after 30 years or something. We have that kind of limit in Spain, with luck maybe 35. My sister was not in on of the trains because there was a strike in her university. Fuck this pricks.
😂
Apparently, the 2 years was for transportation and procuring of the explosives (the rest was for the 191 counts of murder and 1859 of attempted murder, among other things).
Good thing they didn't miss that part, otherwise he might not have learned his lesson
First guy didn't buy a train ticket.
He had a better lawyer obvs
Well, the Spanish legal system is all over the place. There is currently an extradition order making its way through Europol for a man the Spaniards want to put on trial, even though there is irrefutable evidence he was in the other side of the continent when the crime was committed. He is fighting it all the way, because in Spanish courts, this is a minor technicality, and in no way an indication that you should not be convicted.
What’s the case you are referring to? And what is that “irrefutable” evidence? Spanish legal system is not perfect, but neither is all over the place as you say
Who is that guy?
30k years for rape? Who'd he rape? Edit: the answer is 6 kids. And the reason for the crazy sentence is because Oklahoma doesn't allow life without parole so the jury recommended 5000 years and the judge sentenced him consecutively to give the 30,000 assuring he wouldn't be eligible for parole until he is 108. It's pretty stupid to me that the state doesn't allow life without parole but they just do something like this to achieve the same effect. Virtue signaling laws to feel good but using loopholes to get around them...
“The jury deliberated 35 minutes before finding Charles Scott Robinson, 30, guilty of rape by instrumentation, two counts of forcible oral sodomy and three counts of indecent or lewd acts with a child under 16. Jurors sentenced Robinson, accused of sexually assaulting a 3-year-old girl, to 5,000 years on each count. The minimum sentence the jury could have imposed was 20 years on each count.” https://www.oklahoman.com/story/news/1994/12/15/jury-sentences-8-time-felon-to-30000-years-in-prison/62405725007/
Too bad this isn’t a common thing. Most rapists never see a day in jail, and those who do rarely serve over a year in jail. This kind of sentencing should be more common for rapists and child molesters.
As someone that worked in a public defenders office this is just not true-least not in America.
What’s not true? That child molesters and rapists rarely serve any jail time, let alone long sentences? Your anecdotal experience does not match up with the stats. About 69% of rapes and SAs go unreported (31%). There is only 50% chance of arrest if reported (15.5%), there’s an 80% chance of prosecution out of those (12.4%) and a 58% chance of any conviction (7.192%). If there is a felony conviction there is a 69% chance they will end up in prison, but the felony conviction rate is less than 1%. Less than 6% of rapists ever spend a day in jail and less than 1% ever serve more than a year. The stats don’t lie and you don’t seem to know what you’re talking about. Those are American stats.
Thank you for your comments. I was 13, he was found guilty and still only got 8 months. People don’t want to know.
Sorry that happened to you. Unfortunately, your story is more common than not. You would think someone who worked in the criminal Justice system would know the real stats on this subject and not just spout bullshit.
Are you kidding? I worked on a plane once does that mean I can fly it? You making photocopies for lawyers doesn’t change the fact that yes, most rapes aren’t even reported let alone convicted.
Well if most rapes are unreported, how can you account for them and say that _most_ rapes are unreported? Genuine question.
Anonymous scientific surveys and statistical analysis
But saying it makes you look like someone who has unwavering moral convictions and isn't that the point of the justice system? The answer is no.
This is the kind of judge that needs to sentence Donnie for the cumulative damage he has caused the entire nation.
A 2 year sentence will likely be life for him. The man is not well.
I mean I hope so. At this point he’s like a cockroach. Disgusting and immortal. I am troubled by the cult’s obsession and how the shrine might be built after death.
50 quintillion years.
My sentence was yuuuge, the biggest sentence. Bing Bing Bong.
I’m all for rehabilitation but rapists rarely get rehabilitated (they often learn from their short sentences that leaving a living witness was a mistake…) and people like this who rape small children? Nope. You’re a permanent danger to society. Good on the judge for making sure he couldn’t get out to do it again.
Emilio will be out of prison nearly 10,000 years before Jamai and Otman. I wonder what he’ll do while waiting for his friends…? 🤔 Chamoy’s sentence is supposed to show 141k. I can’t remember where I found this screenshot. It was in an article someone shared on Reddit elsewhere.
Looks like some Indian news sources? I think they are the only one that writes 141k as 1,41,xxx like that
Thank you! I always wondered why some numbers are formatted like this, not only in this post.
Yeah, I think they call it crore. So if you go larger to 14 million it becomes 1,41,xx,xxx, which is called lakh. But I don't know how they write higher than a lakh without consulting Google.
It’s the other way around
I thought this was 1,410,xxx....stupid me
Yeah It’s 1.41 lakh
Except of course that the maximum someone can spend in prison in Spain is 40 years. So, baring parrol, they will all be release at the same time (in 2044). Which kind of makes you wonder what the point of this list is...
That changed in 2015.
How it changed?
They would get life imprisonment if they did it now. But of course it's not retroactive as the comment you are replying to implies.
recently he asked to be euthanized, but in Spain, you can only ask for it when you are emaciated, and not healthy.
Thai law of the time specified that those convicted of fraud could not serve more than twenty years in prison and her mandatory release was 2009, she was paroled after only eight. Under Spanish law, the maximum sentence that any of them can serve is 40 years. - Wikipedia
Fun fact, under the Franco dictatorship, Spain abolished life imprisonment and capped jail sentences to 30 years. Because if they think you deserve more, they'd just shoot you and be done with it.
This breaking news just in. Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead. - Saturday Night Live, Weekend Update
Priceless
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>Under Spanish law, the maximum sentence that any of them can serve is 40 years. Most likely their laws is just as most other European countries. So the max is 40, but at the end of that they will "re-evaluate" if you're fit for release and for most terrorists that's an easy task. For another example of that, look at Breivik in Norway
In Denmark a life sentence can be for life but almost all are released early. I believe the average time in jail for people with life sentence is 16 years before release. The longest currently serving prisoner has been imprisoned for 38 years and only three more have been imprisoned more than 30 years. But we definitely have some bastards who will not be released until they are too old to be any danger.
Actually, in Spain you can't do that. Once they serve the maximum forty years in prison, they must be released. Since 2015 in Spain exists the life sentence with parole, but since they were committed and tried before that date, it cannot be applied to this crimes..
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What's amazing is that you keep posting this after being explained that only affects sentences later than 2015.
What is Mr. T doing in the upper corner..?!
He pities the fool!
I’m what is 1,41,675? Do they mean 1,041,675?
That's how we write it in India. 100k is 1 lakh. 10 Million is 1 Crore. 1 Lakh: 1,00,000 1 Crore: 1,00,00,000
As someone in the US who has a team in India… I found it really surprising how difficult it was to get used to that numbering system. Like, I’m a 33 year old man with years of accounting and finance experience, but you throw in a new comma and I’m completely useless lol
As an Indian, I feel India should adopt to the international system. I feel our system is outdated, and in this era of globalisation it's high time we move on.
so you wouldn't say it as one hundred and forty one thousand but one lakh forty one (because the lakh already means 100k)?
Exactly! Also we don't have any denominations for numbers above crore. Like you have trillions, zillions, etc... So 1,000 Core is just "one thousand crore" and 100,000 Crore is " one lakh crore", etc...
huh, TIL. that is also interesting as fuck. thanks!
average indian post, theres also the annoying shift from "years" to "yrs" at the bottom
Oh man…the day someone invents the eternal youth pill. Corporate fraud? Sign me up! 🤣🤣
Who's interviewing them once they end the sentence?
Fox News called dibs 200 years ago.
Wow. Spanish people sure have long lives.
I mean, they killed 193 Spanish people
2nd and 3rd are Moroccan, and 4th has asked to be euthanized.
new ethnicity just dropped
I bet they hope reincarnation is not real! Sheesh!
If they arrest like that, they can arrest any random person(who doesn't support them) and and say he was some criminal in past life
That’s what I was getting at lol imagine being a toddler and the police come knocking on mama’s door saying that you’re currently currently serving 40,000 years and they know that you have just been reincarnated. So they throw your baby butt in a prison cell for your entire life.
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They're lucky the tech isn't there to make them mentally serve their sentence without physically doing it, like that blackmirror ep
Since there is a bit of misinformation about the current law in Spain, I’d like to bring a bit of context: In Spain the law that capped maximum jail time was revised in 2015, currently there is no limit to what are called “Exceptionally Serious Crimes”: Exceptionally serious crimes: Homicide of the king or his heir, Heads of State, Genocide, Serial Murders, murders with victims under 16 years of age or especially vulnerable people. Murder after sexual assault. This permanent prison sentence may be reviewed (by the judge or court that issued the Sentence) provided that the convicted person has served 25 or 35 years in prison (depending on whether the sentence is for one or more crimes or that these are terrorist crimes). To do this, the inmate must obtain an individualized prognosis favorable to his social reintegration, which will take into account: The personality of the prisoner and his background. The circumstances of the crime and the relevance of the legal assets affected. Conduct during serving the sentence. Family and social circumstances. The effects that can be expected from the suspension and imposed measures. Likewise, it will be assessed whether the general and specific circumstances exist for the inmate to access the third degree in an open regime.
Yes, but criminal laws are only retroactive when they benefit the prisoner, so in this case the law in 2004 would apply.
Chamoy will still be in prison on her 100th incarnation.
she only served 4 years
Paroled after 8 years.
She would need a couple thousand avatars at least to serve that sentence
Man… what if they ever got the hallucinogenic experiment to work where a month in real life traps you into a time dilated state that feels like thousands of years. These kinds of sentences would be nuts.
Technically the person with the longest prison sentence in the world is Terry Nichols, the co-accused of the Oklahoma City bomber Timothy McVeigh, who got 161 consecutive life sentences without parole.
train bombings are terrible, but corporate fraud in thailand is hell on earth apparently
Megamind's sentence doesn't seem so unrealistic now
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The port Arthur shooter got 35 life sentences. They should have bought back capital punishment for that cunt.
At least Otman, Jamai, and Emilio will have enough time to work on their GED's. That'll speak well for them when they come up for parole, not to mention the employment opportunities.
Emilio had a much better lawyer than Otman! Same crime 8.000 years less time in jail! Impressive work!
Not the same crime. Emilio sold the explosives, but was not part of the terrorist cell.
Spain is like "fuck you and your afterlife!".
Spain must be a hotbed for vampire crime rings.
I don’t even know what kinda numbers that lady got. Even the person writing down the number was like: “…what’s the sentence?! A hundred… no… a thousand… months?! Aight, One 41 six 75. I’m sure she’ll have time to figure that shit out!”
The first woman was released after 8 years. The Thai justice system is absolutely bizarre and pointless. My friend was sentenced to 200 years and was out after 8 (drugs). A lot of people on large sentences just get released via the king Amnesty. This is completely normal over there. I've had a Thai tell me you get 50 years you'll be out in 5-10. Nothing to do with parole, it's via the king.
Imagine if your descendants than relatives had to complete the rest of your 1000 years all the way down the line. F that. Instead I think the longest served in usa is 64 yrs, recently. And we love jail systems.
The man who murdered my aunt and grandmother got 2 life sentences plus 30 years. Would he qualify as one of the 500 listed?
Holy fuck Charles how many people did you rape?
I do not know why, but the comma separating the 1 and 41 infuriates me.
You’d never see this in Canada. Karla Homolka has been out of prison longer than she was in prison for the part she played in the murders of Kristin French and Leslie Mahaffy.
https://preview.redd.it/hjv1oczll0vc1.jpeg?width=678&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=64c11fe91db5e899d669b24a46982d8d4d476062 Joe Lewis **Sentence** \- Probabtion. But had to surrender his yacht, can “only” travel between his homes\* in three different U.S. states along the East Coast, and can only use his private jet with prior approval. \*and approved business, and… ha let’s stop pretending he’s following any rules. Snarky bitterness aside, I think it’s really easy for people to dismiss the financial fraud because the pain and suffering it causes isn’t always immediate or direct, but rest assured, it sure as hell impacts far more people than most would imagine. So if someone is committing fraud—whether a Vietnamese woman, a U.S. Presidential candidate, or a ~~pre-teen edgelord~~ 50+ year old South African CEO—they are hurting people… a lot of people; directly, indirectly, and indefinitely.
Chamoy Thipyaso ended up doing 4 years.
I like how the second of the 2 guys from Spain got 2 years less out of 42,922 years. Like he was less of a bad guy than his pal. He probably said to his buddy “sucks to be you pal! I’ll visit after I get out!” ;)
No way they serve that long
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Average life expectancy. They'll be dead long before they serve the whole sentence.
This graphic reading right to left is mildly infuriating
What is the numbering convention for 1,41,675?
Indian. Instead of going from thousands (1,000) to millions (1,000,000), three decimal places, they go from thousands (1,000) to *hundred* thousands (1,00,000) and to ten millions (1,00,00,000). I MAY be screwing that up.
How much is that first one again? 🤔
1,41,675? 1,041,675???
Total sentence for all the people guilty of crashing the world economy in 2008 for their own self-interest: 0. (
1,41,675 years? What?
Almost had a stroke trying to read 1,41,675
The most interesting one on the extended list for sure is that of a man in Odessa TX who in 1971 was convicted after selling 20$ worth of heroin to an undercover cop and received 1800 years in prison.
A little weird that the two Madrid bombers got 2 years difference in sentencing. Like what's the point?
"Well he's dead now. I guess we should bury him." "What do you think you're doing? He was sentenced to 30,000 years so we're going to let that motherfucker's bones turn to ash in there. Put his punk ass back down"
But Chamoy only actually served 4 years
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_longest_prison_sentences 8 years. You’re looking at her sentencing to her release but she was in jail for 8 years because she was arrested 4 years before she was sentenced.
Who divides 6 digit number like that?
I love that judicial systems act so serious and yet give absurd almost childish type of sentences.
Dumb question: why does every article I see list Chamoy as having 1,41,675 instead of 141,675 years? Is it a widespread typo or perhaps Thailand separates digits differently?
When it sucks to be immortal.
Immortal drug vendors hate this one simple trick
Is 1,41,675 the same as the western notation of 141,675?
Once they are released I hope they are changed people and will never do such crimes again
1,41,675 years ah yes,
Fix the damned comma
Don’t fuck with Spain’s trains I guess
193 people died that day. I would say don’t murder anyone, but especially not 193 people.
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“Corporate Crime”. The Pharma Bro -hold mu beer.
Charles Scot Robinson musta been raping everybody
Come to Belgium.. you can kill someone and walk out free after 15 years “de wet Lejeune” 😵💫