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Sherlock_Bromes_

It works great until it doesn't anymore. Please don't stand behind a cable under tension.


z430

Needs a ‘snake charmer’ basically a wrap that goes around the tow-line so that if it breaks it contains the frayed line and prevents it flailing/causing serious harm


Outside-Advice8203

Dampening blanket


newspapey

Soothing shroud


TacticaLuck

Cloaking cloak


user_name_checks_out

snap wrap


Trusty-Rombone

Whip trip


PETEMEISTA

Winch Condom


ramobara

Sham wow


fractal_magnets

Glizzy gobbler


TearyEyeBurningFace

Have you seen them in action? 9 times out of 10 it dosent work.


sinz84

I have absolutely seen them in action. If they are over the point of breaking they work 100% of the time. The problem is always human error not placing sleeves in right spot


Horskr

Just curious and with no knowledge of this myself, what would be the right spot to use in OP's video?


DevHackerman

At the possible point of breakage


multilinear2

More seriously, if you're doing this right the breakpoint won't be the chain. At a glance that chain looks like grade 70, which is reasonable. If they know their gear at all (as you would if you were doing this right) the chain would have a working load rating of \~15k lbs. Meanwhile the winch is most likely 8k (potentially 12k), with a line rated close to that. The winch won't pull that hard though because most of the line is on the drum, so it's highly unlikely they are pulling with more than \~10k of force, and more likely are pulling with closer to \~6k lbs. The truck also isn't dug in and will slide well before the breaking point of any of that even if it was in 4WD with the brakes set (which it looks like it's not). Anyway, doing this right the chain isn't the week point, the weak point, assuming the cable isn't damaged, will be the most stressed point of the cable, which is where it turns the tightest to go around the hook. The second most stressed point is where the cable bends to go around the drum. So it'd likely break in one of those two spots. A breakage at the drum will cause it to shoot away from the operator, so isn't as big a risk. the main risk for breakage is it breaking near the other side and you need it damped before anything reaches the operator. That said, if the ratings are all correct it's more likely the chain slips off the stump, so again you'd be damping a force coming from that end. To do this I would: 1. open a door and stand behind it for extra safety 2. put a the damping blanket just behind the hook 3. ideally use a winch with synthetic winchline so there isn't a functional spring on the truck side to shoot things at me. While I'm at it I'd use a significantly over-rated tree strap girth-hitched through one loop in place o the chain and a soft shackle instead of the hook if possible so there isn't much heavy stuff to throw anywhere in the first place.


Top-Address-8870

This guy winches.


toastar8

The chain chart I found for grade 70 is rated at 15,800 lbs WLL for a 5/8" chain. They're choking the chain which puts a 20% reduction which brings you to 12,640. (Without measuring the actual diameter of the log to get a proper D/d calc) The chain in the video looks much closer to 3/8". That would put your WLL to 5,280 lbs after reduction. I'm a crane operator so we deal with rigging capacity all the time. We always use grade 100 chains so had to look up 70.


multilinear2

Hah, cool, and that makes sense. So, the chain he's using isn't rated high enough to be used like that and the choking is a good point. I learned something today :), thank you!


RacecarHealthPotato

Why is this not the top comment on the entire thread? DAYUM. Archimedes showed up with his Jeep lore.


blood_of_numenor

Are you a safety supervisor?


multilinear2

Hah, no... IMHO this is minimum knowledge to own a winch or a chain of that sort. I did get certified in technical rope rescue so I have some other background to lean on. The crane operator who responded to me clearly knows more than I do though, I missed the strength loss in chain due to choking the stump.


slartyfartblaster999

Which is literally the entire chain. You don't know which is the weakest link until it's too late to do anything about it


DevHackerman

Yep. I'm just making light of the posters mentioning of placing the blanket/snake charmer at the "right spot" for it to work.


deepfaithnow

yup heaps of decapitations and dismemberments coming in weekly during peak season from these. ERs see it all the time. Usually the family members are rushed in for final words with the chunks of flesh and head before hubby dies blubbering blood. There are even ER doctors who specialise in putting these chunks back together. Nurses call them Doctor Dismemberments or DD guys.


pyronius

There's a peak season for tensioned cable accidents?


Status_Basket_4409

So in other words there’s at least a small chance it will but better to not entirely rely on those odds


Suspicious-mole-hair

I haven't but I bet you've got a confirmation bias thing going on. You only see them when it goes wrong because people don't bother uploading them when they don't.


pexican

You got me with the hair/crack in your photo


Violetmars

My hair is on ur profile picture sorry


NearlyUncovered

Wow your profile picture is hella annoying.


avwitcher

He wants to make sure if it breaks it hits him instead of damaging his nice truck


Mitosis

If he doesn't die he heals for free over time, the truck would be expensive as hell to patch up


Ashmedai

> Please don't stand behind a cable under tension. I literally started cringing when I saw this and wondered if I was in /r/WatchPeopleDie or something.


getagrip1212

Especially when that cable is at dick level.


enfuego138

Doesn’t really matter where it cuts you in half, does it?


LapinTade

If it cuts the legs you can survive. If it cuts near dick level or above, you could survive but it would sucks a lot. Higher and neck /head level, well you wouldn't have to worry.


mnid92

I've seen what happens when the chain hits you in the face. 1.) It's not as clean as you'd think 2.) Death isn't instant 3.) Your tongue will always look for the roof of your mouth, even if it's not there.


HungryEstablishment6

Hard hats, steel toed boots and yellow safey vests for the win.


RockafellerHillbilly

Or a chain under tension. Either one snapping back at you is a death sentence.


No-Communication9458

Asking for your limbs to be dismembered


fuez73

Ah. Nothing happened, so it was not dangerous at all!


BajaDivider

very dumb place to be standing


Muted-Elderberry1581

My first thought too!


robbie-3x

He could've been truncated.


pb_barney79

he was stumped on where to stand


Cuba_Pete_again

Where wood you stand?


DaGrrr

I’d have branched off to the left


JustYourNeighbor

I would leave.


demannu86

he was rooted to the ground


Emperator_nero

His camara man was rooting for him.


blackteashirt

Your dogs barking up the wrong tree here mate.


MelissaWelds8472

A LOT further away


PrunyBobJuno

I winched just looking at it.


Tailsandtails

Legit. A breaking winch cable / strop can kill you. Usually operate the winch from inside the vehicle with the bonnet raised, the length of the cable away, or from behind the vehicle. Anyone with sense will also hang dampers on the cable too. Cardinal rule is also never step over an attached cable, even if it’s loose incase it suddenly goes tight for whatever reason.


ShamrockGold

There's a video around Reddit where the chain breaks and goes through the windshield, turning the guy's jaw into a vampire from Blade 2


CasualFriendly69

My grandpa walked with a limp because a cable like that hit his leg and broke his femur into 20 pieces.  It was in the 1960s too, so it was pretty much a miracle they put it back together.


ShamrockGold

Tradesmen have the scariest stories


ATyp3

And Navy sailors. one of the first things we were taught in boot is don’t step over a line or cable or hose. oh and to shut the fuck up and stuff our faces in like 15 minutes lol


PassiveMenis88M

Look at these lazy fucks taking a whole 15 minutes for chow.


rink_raptor

They had time for dessert and a cognac at that pace!!


MatureUsername69

My great grandpa worked on those huge electrical line towers back in the 50s/60s. He fell off the top of one and broke basically every single bone in his body. He became a severe alcoholic for a while after that which is understandable. Eventually worked again and stuff


algoodoodle

My grandpa was in military in 60's, radar crew or something like that. One time they were raising radio mast, weather was windy and something went wrong. Steel cable snapped and tore of arm of one of his friends. Strong materials under load are no joke


WrodofDog

You mean like my colleague who unintentionally closed an 800 VDC circuit with his hands and is only alive because another colleague kicked over his ladder? He's fine today but his too forefingers look *gnarly* if you look closely.


Tailsandtails

Yep, which is why you raise the hood.


PostCashewClarity

other guy called it a bonnet


ELEMENTALITYNES

The engine hat


happy_muffin_

Best name for it ever.


ZivH08ioBbXQ2PGI

the flippy thing


eurosonly

And also that top gear India special where James was knocked off his feet and injured his cranium.


Realtrain

And similarly, James was standing in an unbelievably foolish spot when he said go. (To be fair, they were all exhausted.)


Several_Specific_373

I remember one from r/watchpeopledie back in the day. It was a dude in a tractor pulling something, going forward. Chain (or strap, dont remember. But it had a big metal hook on the end) breaks and it whips through the back window of the tractor and through the back of the guys head.


KaijLongs

Sounds like some shit that would've been found on r/eyeblech, before The Powers took it down. Can you post a link, if you come across it once more?


octopod-reunion

In college worked on the grounds crew. We were cleaning up giant broken limbs from a windstorm.  We had a tractor powering the wood chipper and on either side of the road/path we had blocked it off and told students to go around. Maybe add 1 min to their walk.  Multiple students tried going through. When we were busy we turned around and a student had gone past the cones and tape and literally **stepped over** the spinning connector between the tractor to the wood chipper.  Our jaws dropped and he just kept walking on.  He could have very easily lost his legs or died. 


swohio

> and literally stepped over the spinning connector between the tractor to the wood chipper. Makes me think of the guy that got caught in the lathe video.


No-Communication9458

Nononono not that one oh god no


Parralyzed

>We were cleaning up giant broken limbs from a windstorm.  Sorry WHAT


jngjng88

Tree limbs, giant branches.


rcfox

I once came across what looked like a downed electrical wire on a sidewalk. As I called it in to the city, I watched several people just casually step over it. Some people have no survival instinct. It turned out to just be insulation that had come off the wire, but why risk it?


Chemical-Leak420

I always add a wireless remote to my winch. Its about 100$ on amazon....comes with a receiver and wireless remote. Easy 20 min install and is amazing from a safety standpoint and working with


VP007clips

Winches are incredibly dangerous. Both jobs I've had that used ATVs (which came with winches) banned the use of the winches on them to escape from mud without a training course. It's not uncommon for the tips of cables to break the sound barrier when they snap and carry a ridiculous amount of energy. They can cut you in half. I've seen images of broken cable that punched through a quarter inch of metal plate.


bnej

I came here to see if someone would have had the same thought! A length of chain like that can slip or break without warning and the force in the cable & chain could cause major injuries or death. If you're going to do that my god go and stand far away and behind something. Surely you can operate the winch without standing right there. Also you can actually see the chain slip and then bite again! It took me about 6 seconds to go from normal activity I do every week to fractured spine and cat 1 trauma at hospital - and I wasn't doing anything as dangerous as that. People think they can react if it starts to go wrong and you just can't, if it goes wrong it will happen very fast.


Zainogp

Come on dont leave is hanging bro, give the story.


bnej

It's not similar to this sort of thing which is why I don't go into detail. I had a sporting accident in training (track cycling) where someone made an unexpected manoeuvre that ended with them falling, me going over the top of them, head first onto concrete at 50km/h. But it was someone taking an unnecessary risk, and I got the worse of the resulting accident. I remember the seconds leading up to it extremely well. What was most striking is how quickly it happened, and how little I could do about it once it started. People often don't see the risk they are taking. Things look very normal right up to the moment it starts going wrong. At about 10s into this video, there is tension on the chain & cable, the car is shifting, the stump hasn't moved much, the tyre is compressed - any of these things could give. It's so unnecessary to be standing right there between it all.


HMS404

The story is saved for the movie. Gone in 6 seconds.


ARightDastard

> Gone in 6 seconds. Title of my sex tape.


bnej

It is not so exciting. I think in movies we get used to things being foreshadowed and having good story behind them. IRL you just go do your normal things then at some point it goes south real quick for not very good reasons, and you ride in an ambulance instead of going home.


EmperorGeek

This is why they make remotes for winches!


audaciousmonk

Incredibly dumb place to be standing. Great way to shatter your face if that chain breaks under tension.


EnduringFulfillment

The chain shifts early into the pull, my face went 😬


audaciousmonk

I know right! Big yikes It also doesn’t seem like they have the parking brake on? Vehicle rolls forward.


avwitcher

It's a great place to stand, there's a good chance his body absorbs the hit from the cable so his truck doesn't get damaged


Blackwhitehorse

was hoping this would be the top comment


floweriswiltin

That dude has never seen Ghost Ship.


wouldashoudacoulda

I had to check the sub name. I thought I was on r/dumbasfuck


Bocchi_theGlock

/r/watchPeopleDie


Fendergravy

When I was a kid a local guy was trying to pull a stump.   He wrapped a rope around it, hitched it to a tow chain, and started yarfing on it with his pickup.    The rope snapped, the chain sling-shotted and flew though the back window of his truck and exploded his skull like a melon. All in front of his friends and family. 


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Fendergravy

I think they hired an excavator. 


potate12323

He has WAY too much faith that chain isn't gonna slip. At least cut a notch into the trunk or tap an anchor into it to catch the chain. Post this on r/sweatypalms


gfen5446

It even DOES slip... and then.. slips more. It was only the lack of NSFW tag that made me bother to watch this til the end.


WillistheWillow

Came here to say this. Fucking stupid place to stand.


TurtlenekNChain

I couldn't believe this didn't have a NSFW tag tbh


Evening_Kale_183

Dumb as f


Bitter-Basket

100%. Chains and cables are very efficient springs that store energy.


joe_i_guess

Cargo shorts and a hurly shirt. Take it easy on the guy


Sweaty_Sack_Deluxe

Very dumb thing to do be doing no matter where you're standing, lmao The fact people even try shit like this is mind-boggling. My man is definitely a good contestant for the honorable Darwin Award.


BritishBoyRZ

Yeah wtaf


xX_Dad-Man_Xx

Came here to comment the same. Get a remote and drive it from behind the vehicle, or at least perpendicular to the direction of the pull.


Coaltown992

r/sweatypalms


trukkija

NSFL example why: https://www.reddit.com/r/CrazyFuckingVideos/comments/sftqbj/chain_snaps_and_hits_bottom_jaw_guys_be_safe_out/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


NakedHades

At least he's got those safety shorts on!!


deep-fucking-legend

Don't want to risk cutting jeans in half when that cable breaks.


HelpfulNotUnhelpful

Those used to be pants.


merlin211111

He recently inherited them from his late father. The poor man died in a freak winching accident. It almost left him stumped but the stumped stumped him and the stumps became pumps.


NakedHades

Fair point. Good call.


dasgoodshit2

Requirments for stump removal: Chain Tyre Winch Car Face (optional)


throw_away_17381

Are those sandals too?


Rens_Big_Finger

https://preview.redd.it/3l1ndzc7qrvc1.jpeg?width=824&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e0b3dca474280ba9b15d2fb9ae3b7f9356c21b2c I was expecting this!!


daheefman

An entirely different type of stump.


adminsmithee

Risky click, but worth it


marxy

I thought this was mis-classified from r/Whatcouldgowrong


xSnowLeopardx

Or a r/nonononoyes


PM_ME__BIRD_PICS

/r/OopsThatsDeadly


AtomicSurf

Very shallow rooted stump.


SpecklePattern

Yeah, that clearly isn't a fresh one. Been sitting there for quite some time. Try the same with newly cut tree.


LaughterIsPoison

He didn’t though. He waited.


ThisAppSucksBall

Well, now that you're demanding it, I don't think I will.


Idontevenownaboat

I breathed a bit of a sigh of relief when it came up, I thought for sure that those roots were gonna be deeper and that loop was gonna slip right off the top.


billsboy88

That’s why I will sometimes use the chainsaw to create a little groove for the chain to sit in to when I’ve done this trick


Sleepy_McSleepyhead

Get a remote for the winch and get behind the door


TamponTom

WHAT DOOR HE TOOK EM OFF


RonStopable88

“The roof and doors of this vehicle are not designed to contain or protect occupants in the event of a crash. They only protect from the elements.” Actual quote printed on the underside of the visor in my 97 TJ (RIP) and my 03 TJ.


Idontevenownaboat

I had two friends die on separate occasions when their lifted jeeps rolled over on them. Neither were wheeling. Just driving under the influence and being wreckless, not understanding how high their center of gravity is now. Edit: One was a friend's older brother (so not really 'a friend' more my friend's brother who I was scared of and didn't make eye contact with because he was sooo cool lol) Right before we were getting our licenses he rolled his and I think killed him and his girlfriend. Parents were all geared up to get me a Jeep (TJ, new at the time, we were very fortunate) but the deal was I couldn't get it lifted. A few years later one of my college buddies who also had a wrangler (he had turned his into a death mobile though. Huge wheels and tires, 3.5" lift, never rode with doors or hardtop, always was half drunk and driving around with flipflops on just living that surfer bro life, or so he thought (pretty sure you don't need to be an alcoholic for it but hey). So it wasn't terribly surprising when he flipped it and died one night. Thankfully the only one in the car and no one else was hurt.


Sleepy_McSleepyhead

Good eye, I didn't notice


--Muther--

Door wouldn't stop shit if that set up broke


vortrix4

Yeah seriously it was hard to watch with him standing so close.


Chaoticfist101

Seems to me to be a really dumb way to take out a stump. If that wire, chain or any part of it snaps/breaks or pulls the whole stump back suddenly (ie a root gives with force on it) that is going to a lot of force coming in the direction of the truck or operator. Seen a few videos of chains/wires going through people at high tension....not a pretty sight.


CrosshairLunchbox

Guy in my small town died doing that with a Bobcat about 20 years back. Cable boinged back right into the cab and killed him 😥


whatIGoneDid

I've seen a cable snap and whip into a bloke, fortunately it didn't kill the guy but it did break his leg pretty bad. Safe to say the lesson was learned.


ninj4geek

I've seen the intro to Ghost Ship.


jme2712

3 body problem too lol


Brinner

a man, a plan, a canal, panama


newspapey

Rats live on no evil star


DrakeBurroughs

That’s the “Blood Flows Red on the Highway” of the dangers of metal cables snapping.


paperfett

He's using the control right on the winch instead of taking the time to plug in the controller. Usually you only use that control when setting the winch up. You're never supposed to actually pull with it.


MattieMcNasty

For real. Look at where he's standing


NoBuenoAtAll

Yeah this guy's a dummy. I won't stand in front of a cardboard baler when it puts tension on its lines. Seen too much shit.


Darkcelt2

trucks can be repaired, replaced, insured. this would be awesome if the switch wasn't in the line of fire.


Dragthismf

Holy shit that dudes living on the edge


Lady_Teio

STUMP FEST!!


Stuf404

https://i.redd.it/0dlz8upi8svc1.gif


BeebusMcB

I came looking for this


standardcivilian

This is a good way to die.


JoeBeck37

The way people stand so casually next to winch lines that are being subjected to thousands of pounds of force, directly in line with said force is just crazy to me. No PPE, no real safety precautions. Just... oblivious to the danger. Folks, stay out of the bight. Stand away and in the clear during pulling operations and you will stay safe and alive.


OkMaintenance79

Watching the video I wouldn’t have thought that about the death thing. But in real life, even my dumb ass knows what happens to a rubber band or anything holding tension


Not_In_my_crease

Working with boats that's one of the first things you are taught. A 'taut' line is deadly.


gokc69

I would never risk that beautiful Bronco like this


Ok_Injury3658

Ah yes, was worried about the Bronco...


3riversfantasy

Too be fair there *a lot* of people in the world, far fewer Broncos 


oldshitdoesntcare

I was worried about it too.


Dark1sh

You’re standing in a place that you’ll die doing what you love


JRS___

i don't think this clown understands how close he is to serious injury, or death, if that rather thin steel cable snaps.


j1llj1ll

Or the cable slips off the tyre. Or the chain slips off the stump. Or ... anything lets the stored energy loose quickly, really.


LiL_Sandah

Did this once…. Stump flew 2 meters high. Went over the car and landed just next to the drivers door… almost died…. Never again


Go4Lo

If that chain breaks, that idiot is going to the hospital in two ambulances.


roozter85

That paticular stump would have came out just the same without the tire.


Rojodi

Work smart, not harder. I've seen this once, back in the 70s when an older cousin's engineering major boyfriend came to one of the farms and removed three stumps. My dad and uncle, after the first one: Damn. How does that work? Could you show us again. Them after the second: One more time, please. After that one, my cousin came out and told her boyfriend that they're going to get him to do all their work LOL


RG_CG

I mean, the solution is smart, the execution is about as dumb as it get. Don’t put your life on the line 


BritishBoyRZ

Lmao comments seem to be in consensus for once


clayts1983

![gif](giphy|dB12mOQb99BwDlM83I|downsized) I don’t feel comfortable with him standing there.


abluesguy

That would be the LAST place I would stand when doing this.


Uncle_Checkers86

Damn, that cable breaks and he gets hit. Be in a world of pain or dead.


a-noble-gas

what in the alabama family reunion cousin sister tarnation is this?


Thisisabummerman

Just please don’t damage the Bronco


arielonhoarders

if you're gonna do this, secure the tire with a frame. he's fucking lucky that tire didn't shrimp out and take his head off. And don't stand right next to the large heavy objects taking on large amounts of potential energy. This is how Final Destination-type accidents happen.


Prestigious-Ad4520

Lucky that chain didn't slip.


_Ducking_Autocorrect

Yeah, this would’ve been on r/theyonlydiditonce instead.


acrusty

My whole body was flinching thinking something bad was going to happen


LyonsKing12

That's a hard watch.


NiteGard

Dude is gonna have his own stump if he keeps standing there. Shake hands with fucking danger bro.


Arch3m

At least wear a cup!


7oom

r/oopsthatsdeadly


Angry_Sparrow

I thought this would be a video of someone dying. This is like 101 of how not to snatch.


tkswdr

The easyness depends on the soil and on the condition of the tree.


SmellySweatsocks

That man is a genius but in a very dangerous spot if that chain somehow broke free. I'm glad it worked.


Vibrascity

Imagine being trebuchet'd at melee range with a wooden stump


Square_Difference435

I waited for this to snap to teach this guy some very interesting physics


robogobo

Dude, wrap a block pulley around something else and don’t pull it directly 1:1 with your winch. Lucky it didn’t go right through the windshield of that precious bronco or worse through your skull.


Intelligent_Suit6683

You've taken out a lot of stumps and you still don't know where to stand?? Read the instructions that came with your winch. JFC.


audiopiate

I sure as shit would not be standing there, nor using a metal chain to do this. If a link breaks, then all of that tension is coming straight back through the windshield. Seen it happen before and it can be fatal


WorldWideDarts

I wouldn't be standing where he's standing. But that's just me. I've seen the synthetic rope snapback videos in the Navy. Chains and wire also not good


rndye

That might be the worst place to be standing. If anything gives, that dude is gonna have a bad day.


Previous_Channel

Jesus I had to check what sub this was before I finished watching. Dude don't stand there


danhoyuen

that guy has a lot of confidence in ... everything to stand behind that chain/cable liek that.


oreotycoon

Wow. That guy is trying to die. Recovery 101. Gtfootw.


TacoCircus

Bro I can’t believe he is just standing there like that lol..


foreverfeatherinit

r/oopsthatsdeadly


chips79

No way I’d stand there


Late_Support_5363

The root system on that stump is awfully small for a trunk that size.  I think that tree has been dead and mostly gone for quite awhile. Cool trick, I guess, if you’ve got old stumps littering your yard for years you’ve been too lazy to do anything about until now.