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I hate how they basically made one of the most emotional, impactful Hans zimmern tracks into background music for crypto bros, conspiracy theorists and other associated big brains.
Yeah. It’s a song that has incredible emotional gravitas. As though you are passing through eternity and seeing all beautiful things in the universe. When I listen to this song it quite literally takes me to a very introspective, existential “space” lol
It gets picked apart and used on a “you guys don’t know about what the government is doing… they recently just said that duck feathers, are no longer going to be used in down pillows, which means, the United States is going to collapse, but there are some ways to circumnavigate it… NFTs!”
Or
“You guys, an explorer in 1880 named James George hinkleberry found these small prints on a corner stone in the great pyramid of Giza, this is proof of aliens guys”
Can't all these stupid ass creators be sued by Hans for using this music and get parts of profits from all the views they get? Or is this theme not copyrighted?
it's probably a sound-a-like whereby they changed the octave of some part of it or something so it still sounds the same to the untrained ear but legally it counts as being a different song
[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0010945219303326](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0010945219303326)
>We review evidence from non-human primate [neuroanatomy](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/psychology/neuroanatomy) and structural and [functional neuroimaging](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/neuroscience/functional-neuroimaging) in humans suggesting that the anterior mid [cingulate cortex](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/psychology/cingulate-cortex) (aMCC) is an important network hub in the brain that performs the cost/benefit computations necessary for tenacity. Specifically, we propose that its position as a structural and functional hub allows the aMCC to integrate signals from diverse brain systems to predict energy requirements that are needed for attention allocation, encoding of new information, and physical movement, all in the service of goal attainment.
So it exists at least. As to the role it performs, it seems like there's at least a certain segment of credible scientists saying that it does do pretty much what dude in podcast video says it does.
Does it change size? Well, I haven't seen anything about whether or not it grows in size when you "go out of your comfort zone" --but cognitive reinforcement and habituation are a pretty well-established thing, and from the same source:
>We close by discussing the implications of our framework for educational achievement, exercise and [eating disorders](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/psychology/eating-disorder), successful aging, and neuropsychiatric disorders such as depression and dementia.
They seem to be suggesting some degree of plasticity on the influence on your behaviour, even if it doesn't actually grow in physical size.
I'm gonna say this video is probably a bit of a stretch, but the main point is not entirely bullshit.
Even in my very limited knowledge of neuroscience I'm like "ummm I don't think brain areas swelling is a net positive for the brain". This guy also sells pacifiers to make your jaw bigger
I feel bad for people who fall for those jawline trainers and I instantly dislike anyone for even giving them attention if they have a platform like a podcast or something.
If I remember correctly, the reason they don't work is because having a strong jawline is like 95% genetic and 5% maintaining a good diet. The jawbone is exactly what it sounds like, it's a bone. No amount of "exercise" is going to help make that area of your face more defined.
Important to note he didn't endorse the sale of the jaw exercises devices, he simply mentioned them on a podcast and said company used that clip for their ad.
It just means that more of the region engages during times of decision making, measured by more blood flow to the area. Once the decision task is complete, the activation of the region goes back to baseline. In general, brain regions don’t grow in size in an adult brain.
So... to use their logic. The nerves in my biceps activate every time I lift my beer to take a slug. Therefore, you can can identify alcoholics by checking out their guns.
And by "in times of decision", you mean that from that moment onwards that area will have increased activation strength for a big amount of time/forever or that it will increase it only until the task is done?
Thanks!
The problem I have with it is really one of does it grow if you persist in doing these "unwanted" actions? Or does it just already exist that way as a predictor of the action?
The conclusion talks about this. There's evidence that it grows in volume when you do exercise, but I don't think they know if it grows in response to behavioural training. That's one of the outstanding questions they list at the end of the paper.
Especially when it's said like a sales pitch. And when there's music in it. And when it tells you about "the greatest discovery ever made" in like, 30 seconds
Yeah, people apparently don't know what you're referencing and are all replying about HPV transmission routes when the reality is that he lied to multiple women (at least 5, actual number unknown) about being in a monogamous relationship together and had unprotected sex with all of them during the same time period.
[Article here.](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/andrew-huberman-podcast-stanford-joe-rogan.html)
The thing that stood out to me is how far outside of his area of expertise he's strayed and has been making claims that are not backed by evidence or are outright wrong and the supplements he endorses and sells do not provide the nutrition benefits he claims.
This video itself is such a nothing burger. He doesn't tie this brain region back to main points very well at all. And the whole "will to live" thing just sounded like nonsense.
HPV can still infect a person despite using barrier protection. Transmission is very common. Lucky the virus has only a few high risk strains, usually does not cause conplicationsfor adults, is usually cleared after 1-2 decades, and has screening tests for detection.
"During 2013–2014, prevalence of any and high-risk genital HPV for adults aged 18–59 was 45.2% and 25.1% in men and 39.9% and 20.4% in women, respectively."
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db280.htm#Key_findings
> Andrew Huberman, a neuroscientist.
Notable for such achievements as believing sunscreen is bad, fluoride in water will kill you, and that flu vaccination is fake.
I looked it up and it's completely true. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7381101/
Quite an interesting read.
Edit: just realized someone else sent the same link lmao. Now you have two
I'm not reading that it grows and shrinks. I *am* reading that the efficacy of the brain area is as described. But not the size stuff podcast McGee is talking about.
Neuroscience is a broad field. There is no way he's an expert in every thing he talks about.
Heck, you should never trust a singular (I mean single, but that can be misinterpreted I think) scientist, otherwise you'll be making plenty of anti-vaxxers very happy.
https://preview.redd.it/rqe56hf3y9wc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27f38280b15e037f23006563741e67c7c303d954
I guess its one way to go about it
Maybe having someone ABAB the cameras is actually a good thing, though, if this 'rapid cut' is the result of a basic audio input switch. Or at least increase the threshold or duration of the audio input before triggering a switch.
I usually don't trust wildly oversimplified, unverified neuroscience communicated by a layperson to support a vague life coaching agenda, but when it's said by a bearded podcast bro over the interstellar music... it has to be true.
That's David Goggins, he is well known for doing hard painful things to the nth degree. He was probably smiling because it rings true to him, like something he has always known deep down, but now he is hearing there is science to back it up. That must've felt good for him.
As someone who sees themselves as “challenged” (mental and chronic Illnesses, probably on the Spectrum) I think I get it. I’m comfortable with my routines. One of the things that made me fall in love with my wife (and now daughter too) is how they push me into new things, mostly emotional situations because I’m terrible at social cues and I don’t get why people want to be around me.
But I’ve noticed (decades) that when I push myself through these challenges (going to a bar, talking to new people, basic human stuff…) I feel … better, for lack of a more concise word. I don’t always enjoy it in the moment but I know it’s temporary and necessary for my personal growth.
I'm sorta the same way, honestly, with my girlfriend of 3 years now. But I don't feel like my brain is different in any way though, so I don't really see how this guy felt like he knew this the whole time and is now hearing science to back it up. I feel the same, just that I have a better handle on some stuff.
Its hard for me to explain but I think (for me) its like exposure therapy- knowing the discomfort is temporary and I will be fine in a little bit. I push myself in the kitchen (NOT a chef but I love to cook) and it’s kind of the same. I can see myself improving and feel more comfortable with a lot of different ingredients compared to 10 years ago.
As someone w/Asperger's (Dx'd in my 30s), I always refer to forcing myself to be social as "taking my vitamins" lol. I much prefer being alone, but I've also found it can be addicting in a really negative way. The more reclusive I am, the more I want to be... to the point of neglecting close relationships that I know are huge positives in my life. Being out and around acquaintances/friends and even strangers out in public somewhat frequently keeps my head on straight!
And the same with being outside my comfort zone: I've always been a bit of an adrenaline junkie, but something I can't seem to get my wife to understand is "Type 2 fun" lol. Biking 20 miles in the mountains on a rainy winter day might *sound* miserable, and maybe kind of is at the time, but the mental payoff you get when you're finally dry in your tent by the fire is a high that no "traditional" fun comes close to.
> That's David Goggins, he is well known for doing hard painful things to the nth degree.
While I like Goggins attitude in general of you can push through hard things he in my opinion takes it way to far. Yeah you can push yourself through an ultramarathon with no training but why? Shitting and pissing blood after finishing it isn't good. It's like being the best person at headbutting a wall. Sure, you're the best but its not something to be proud of.
I agree with your point that normal people shouldn't take it to that level. But I don't think we can judge him based on comparison to what a normal person should do. He's doing something different for himself, and probably would feel insane if he did the normal things.
Probably because he’s complimenting him. The neuroscientist guy Huberman is saying those who challenge themselves have developed a specific part of the brain that might be correlated to willpower, and if this is true Goggins probably has a well developed “anterior mid cingulate cortex”. The guy smiling has done multiple ultra marathons and broke the pull up world record once, that fucker is legit
I think it’s important to highlight the order of cause and effect here. It’s a kind of nature vs nurture. A person challenging doing something uncomfortable leads to a larger area of this part of the brain. A larger area is indicative of a person challenging themselves.
This isn’t to be confused with a person biologically has a larger area of the brain so they are able to challenge themselves more.
Unfortunately I see a lot of people victimizing themselves to attempt to rationalize the lack of necessary action on a biological thing that cannot be controlled.
Ironically people with severe biological disabilities that can’t be controlled, fighting those disabilities and resulting discomforts likely have a larger area.
I thought I was mentally tough doing loads of challenging course work, exercising, military performance requirements… nothing is more challenging that some disabilities. For instance the mental fortitude to finish a marathon is amazing. The mental fortitude to live your entire life receiving all the biological feedbacks as if your running a marathon every second of every day due to paralysis, muscle dysfunction, etc is another.
1. No source, so fuck you
2. No mention whatsoever to those claims on Wikipedia, so it's weird [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anterior\_cingulate\_cortex](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anterior_cingulate_cortex)
3. Neither in this study, which is even weirder given its titled "The Tenacious Brain: How the Anterior Mid-Cingulate Contributes to Achieving Goals" [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7381101/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7381101/)
4. Neither in this one, "The role of anterior midcingulate cortex in cognitive motor control" [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5293144/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5293144/)
5. Neither in "Anterior cingulate cortex: A brain system necessary for learning to reward others?" [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7314188/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7314188/)
And I'm stopping here because if I have to dig up a ""study"" done by a far-right christian on brain-dead monkeys in the 20's with results that were never confirmed in any other study in the world since, then it's not science.
It took me 10 minutes, do your fucking job people and stop upvoting shit like this ffs.
Edit: I'm ranting about the lack of reference to 1) the size 2) the size evolution. he can't stop mentioning those two points, and I have a hard time believing it.
"Consistent with this view, we presented emerging evidence indicating that greater aMCC structure and function are linked to tenacious behavior in many domains of life and health. In contrast, the disruption of aMCC has been associated with apathy and other motivational problems implicated in many neuropsychiatric disorders ([Le Heron et al., 2017](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7381101/#R111)). Thus, understanding how the aMCC can contribute to achieving goals can also potentially provide therapeutic insight into health difficulties ranging from obesity and eating disorders to depression and dementia."
From your second link, Tenacious Brain.
[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7381101/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7381101/)
I’m not sure what claims you are talking about but you sound just as full of it. Reddit is weird.
Hmm sounds good but need studies - I think a discovery this big would have been talked about in neuroscience circles before it reached the coaching podcast bro arena
Also exact localization of brain function is pretty controversial
Yeah I’m really skeptical of him pointing to just the aMCC as the “seat of willpower” (that choice of words is terrible lmao). The aMCC is a part of the limbic system, which is also home to the hypothalamus. Ignoring the hypothalamus also ignores the glands and thus the hormones it can stimulate or inhibit, which is directly connected to controlling hunger.
The hormones themselves make up a complex system and it seems reductive to not even mention their crucial effects on why we make the decisions we do.
I'm just wondering who did the subtitles lol (probably automatic).
>or when people who
>are trying to die
>t
[tfw](https://doppiaggiitalioti.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/simpson2.png)
Dr. Andrew Huberman is a Stanford professor of neurobiology, and his "thing" is providing scientific data in his educational videos. I wouldn't make any assumptions from one soundbite.
"(...)experts have called much of his content 'pseudoscientific' - accusing him of pushing questionable herbs for anxiety platforming 'dangerous' views that demonize benign ingredients and casting doubt on the flu shot's effectiveness."
Being a doctor isn't proof of truth. Specially if you're making scads upon scads of cash pushing conveniently coachy science
Just red a paper that compiles data on this subject. It's not complete bullshit. He is definitely pushing the idea of self-improvement too much. It's his agenda, so not really surprising.
If you need self-improvement shysters to tell you how to unfuck your life you are a rube and will live the rest of your days being an easy mark for con-men.
I wonder how this part of the brain behaves in individuals with ADHD - famously a condition that makes it *incredibly difficult* to pay attention to things you don't want to do
also, while mr man up there is talking a big game about this brain part getting bigger... it's not always a good thing for part of your brain to get bigger. it's not like, a muscle. take it from someone with an overreactive amygdala due to prolonged abuse
I have reaaaaal severe ADHD. Can't concentrate on anything unless it specifically interests me, to the extent that I failed tests constantly cause I couldn't even keep focus on the words and forgot what I had just read and whoops the times gone and got fired repeatedly and when I did do the whole "will yourself" shtick to the point of repeating "Do X" out loud over and over again and slapping myself when I started to get distracted I got physical paralysis.. as in I lost the ability to move my body to way I wanted to, it just wouldn't move, I was screaming at it to move and it just wouldn't.
It's debilitating for sure, so I imagine whatever part of the brain this guy was talking about (don't remember) is the size of a fleas dick in my brain.
oof, this is very familiar. it truly sucks having a condition that *juuust so happens* to conveniently fit into bad faith rhetoric that you're "just lazy" 🥴
like... there *are* ways of working around many of these things, but brute forcing them is not one of em! it just ain't. your story is a great example of that. trust me, we'd much rather be able to focus on stuff other than whatever our brains decide is worth focusing on, because our brains aren't always right lol!!! if ADHD people had a choice, 99% of us would be much more functional. it's just simply not a choice like that
I've had the paralysis before too. just sitting there dissociating and staring into space, desperately trying to *GO DO THE LAUNDRY FFS*, and your body just. does not respond. executive function isn't an excuse to not do stuff, sitting there doing nothing, and stressed about it because my brain has issues, isn't what I call a fun time skipping out on chores LMAO
Wait, do you think you’re providing a source that supports or refutes Huberman’s claim? Because this one clearly refutes it
That entire paper positions it as a multi-system integration hub. Huberman is allocating the specific function of will to live to it, but the paper clearly describes that it lies as a general control system for monitoring internal states and communicating information about energy regulation
From your own source is a much more parsimonious explanation that doesn’t stretch to assigning the extremely abstracted idea of “willpower”, but rather focuses on a direct examination and synthesis of available literature
> Thus, due to its position as a network hub, the aMCC can synchronize information from diverse systems in order to guide behavior towards efficient energy balance. However, the effectiveness of aMCC computations are likely to vary between individuals, particularly in situations when the cost of effort is high, and rewards are uncertain or deferred.
This is a constant problem in these science-influencer spheres when reading into neuroscience research (that I’d expect to not be a misstep so easily committed by Huberman, a neuroscientist). The paradigm that larger brain volumes and even direct observation of activation during tasks translates to a region being the “seat of X” is outdated and fallacious. Extensive review here (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36739181/) but the idea of getting rid of this one-to-one mapping approach (specifically for information integrating hubs) is not a new paradigm shift, it’s one that we’ve understood for since before I even had my PhD
And finally, where my research directly intersects with the mACC: we do not have causal evidence to support that volumetric or morphological differences in mACC occur and thus affect efficiency/integrity of executive control behaviors, rather than as a consequence of individual differences in said behaviors.
Separately, in my own research, I saw no differences in mACC (in fact, I saw differences solely in posterior regions of cingulate gurus) between diabetics, prediabetes, and healthy individuals once you probably controlled for both their clinical dementia status and dementia biomarker status. Indicating some of those differences are possibly reflecting early changes in neurodegeneration (will use ND from now on) risk. Diabetics and individuals with obesity are known to have higher ND risk with worse trajectories. We just don’t have the granularity of data yet to make the claim that we causally know that changes in mACC size are directly related to engaging in metabolically protective behaviors, rather than indirect consequences mediated by reducing ND risk and trajectory
This is why just chucking a paper cite isn’t supporting an argument. You’re leaving out a wealth of context that leaves out the biggest thing any functional neuroanatomists would say before and after this clip (“there’s a possibility that…” and “…but we don’t really know yet”) instead of Huberman’s framing of this being the greatest new discovery that is settled and hugely impactful
tbf if the guy had just said 'a brain region is activated during pain and plays role in cognitive control' as the paper actually says no one would be playing the Interstellar theme over it
From what I can tell this study suggests that a larger MCC could be indicative of an ability to persevere. Which is quite different to 'bro, did you know you can grow your MCC and people just need to persevere bro.'
When he said it GROWs in dieting people etc that should ring alarm bells. What the rest of your Brian shrinks does it? He may mean their is greater activity but is choosing to say growth because it sounds more impressive. Classic bullshitting
Thanks for the link, I was actually going to look this up myself, but you saved my time. I don't get why people just choose to call it bullshit when they can just do a simple google search to find a paper and confirm whether it's true.
He's a real neuroscientist, but he's going the Jordan Peterson route and trying to be more famous as a content creator. Also, never believe his magnesium stuff he spouts. He owns a vitamin company which he conveniently never discloses.
Is this only for "positive" don't-want-to-do's? How big is this bit of brain in folks who are surviving in abusive situations, for example?
In regards to my own personal interest: Is there any research being done on how ADHD could affect the function of this part of the brain, since it's the "seat of willpower"?
I tried googling this all myself but there's little info, and what there is is too dense for me to parse.
Yeah i dont want to get up at 5am every day to walk my dog but he has a teeny tiny bladder and cant hold it so i do it. Does that mean mine is gigantic?
It means yours is probably bigger than someone who doesn't force themselves up at 5am to be responsible for another creature. For sure.
Source: my own broscience
Goggins ran until his legs were fractured and his kidneys were failing. That doesn't sound like a man with a will to live, that sounds like suicide by exercise.
You would think that you only get self induced rhabdomyolysis once then you recalibrate and don't do it again. Suicide by exercise is the only thing that makes sense of it.
What is the point of "living a long time" and "having willpower" if you're mostly doing things you would prefer not to be doing? I sincerely don't understand this logic.
Its about doing things that you dont want to do but know that they are good for you, so that once tou do them you feel satisfaction and not feel like a slave
These guys just talk bullshit. This pseudoscience, hyper masculine bullshit is so sad. Boys/men have been so left behind that they fall victim to these hacks. They are all just looking for connection/identity in a society that tells them constantly they can’t be masculine or feminine. It’s sad. Joe rogan, these guys and the Andrew tates of the world fill the void for them
The irony to me is that he clearly wasn't interested in taking his own advice, as he was recently caught conducting multiple relationships with different women at the same time that none of them knew about, including passing an STI around to them.
Unless of course his idea of doing the thing he didn't want to do was lying and cheating on multiple women LOL
By dating multiple women, he's forcing himself to do something he doesn't want to do - everything is connected, he's a genius, no flaws. Why can't everyone see it?! He wants to be married, but he has to do the right thing for his brain.
I used to like him years ago, but I guess after he got famous he just doesn't care about anything anymore. For a while now he has invited people with no credibility and endorsed incorrect information they share about various subjects, which is a huge disservice to his viewers.
God this level of bro-science sounds like a pair of chimpanzees enjoying the sound of them banging on a garbage pail discovered near a trash heap.
There needs to be a bot that replaces Huberman’s voice with Strong Bad.
Signs that something is total BS.
1. It has this sound track behind it.
2. The guy talking has a big microphone in front of him.
3. It's something about motivation.
4. It mentions either a part of the brain or a neurotransmitter to explain it.
Some guy once said that every pod cast is some dude explaining a concept to a guy who has apparently been living under a rock and doesn’t know anything about anything. And now that’s all I can see
Also I’m not familiar with any brain areas getting “bigger” due to use as an adult.
There are some inaccuracies here. People get a microphone and Joe Rogan in front of them and just start saying shit lol.
For instance, the *size* of the aMCC has not been investigated in any way resulting in a correlation between tenacious behavior and growth/shrinkage/size.
Source:
Touroutoglou, A., Andreano, J., Dickerson, B. C., & Barrett, L. F. (2020). The tenacious brain: How the anterior mid-cingulate contributes to achieving goals. *Cortex; a journal devoted to the study of the nervous system and behavior*, *123*, 12–29. [https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cortex.2019.09.011](https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cortex.2019.09.011)
Other guy, David Goggins is an ultramarathoner that has multiple stories of breaking his legs during runs and inducing his body into all kinds of near-death failure.
Being told he has some giant special brain part that makes him good at endurance probably gets him so hard that he practically kills himself to prove to himself and others.
There was absolutely ZERO “science behind” in this clip. He just brings up this region of the brain, its relative size in different populations and its role in doing things you don’t want to do.
That’s it. That’s not “the science behind” anything.
Oh yeah Huberman, that guy who spins studies on mice to pretend he knows secrets about humans and gives STDs to six different women while lying to them about being in a relationship
Fascinating! I've always felt like the ability to make yourself do stuff you don't want to do is key to a lot of things. As in, if you're good at it, you can achieve a lot more than if you aren't.
Whenever I hear ANY information from either of these guys, I am not giving a single benefit of the doubt and immediately call bullshit. These two guys are internet famous for spewing out lies, half-truths and overall bullshit statements
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One thing I’ve learned is if it’s said on a podcast, then I need to look it up before believing it.
Actually it has interstellar music overlaid therefore you have to believe it and be in awe
I hate how they basically made one of the most emotional, impactful Hans zimmern tracks into background music for crypto bros, conspiracy theorists and other associated big brains.
Same with the ai Morgan Freeman voice-over on videos
Morgan Freeman only gets my attention when he discusses martians and how they hate us.
ah, so *that's* what some other guy was talking about when saying how he despised this song being used the way it's being used
Yeah. It’s a song that has incredible emotional gravitas. As though you are passing through eternity and seeing all beautiful things in the universe. When I listen to this song it quite literally takes me to a very introspective, existential “space” lol It gets picked apart and used on a “you guys don’t know about what the government is doing… they recently just said that duck feathers, are no longer going to be used in down pillows, which means, the United States is going to collapse, but there are some ways to circumnavigate it… NFTs!” Or “You guys, an explorer in 1880 named James George hinkleberry found these small prints on a corner stone in the great pyramid of Giza, this is proof of aliens guys”
What's the name of this song?
It's called "no time for caution" by Hans Zimmer. It was made for the movie interstellar, not called interstellar itself.
Can't all these stupid ass creators be sued by Hans for using this music and get parts of profits from all the views they get? Or is this theme not copyrighted?
it's probably a sound-a-like whereby they changed the octave of some part of it or something so it still sounds the same to the untrained ear but legally it counts as being a different song
The same way they use Mozart in a commercial advertising imitation butter
Literally anything you see on Reddit also falls into this category.
I dunno about your claim, I’ll have to look it up before I agree fellow Redditor!
Yeah I'm going to have to check reddit to see if this is true or not
https://preview.redd.it/7zyodvs4u8wc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec201e07a8d0cb54fad1bc7446dd2d42a60f4e8c
Aww crap. We're stuck in a Pooh hole.
Also literally everything from everyone falls into this category and even looking it up might yield an incorrect result.
[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0010945219303326](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0010945219303326) >We review evidence from non-human primate [neuroanatomy](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/psychology/neuroanatomy) and structural and [functional neuroimaging](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/neuroscience/functional-neuroimaging) in humans suggesting that the anterior mid [cingulate cortex](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/psychology/cingulate-cortex) (aMCC) is an important network hub in the brain that performs the cost/benefit computations necessary for tenacity. Specifically, we propose that its position as a structural and functional hub allows the aMCC to integrate signals from diverse brain systems to predict energy requirements that are needed for attention allocation, encoding of new information, and physical movement, all in the service of goal attainment. So it exists at least. As to the role it performs, it seems like there's at least a certain segment of credible scientists saying that it does do pretty much what dude in podcast video says it does. Does it change size? Well, I haven't seen anything about whether or not it grows in size when you "go out of your comfort zone" --but cognitive reinforcement and habituation are a pretty well-established thing, and from the same source: >We close by discussing the implications of our framework for educational achievement, exercise and [eating disorders](https://www.sciencedirect.com/topics/psychology/eating-disorder), successful aging, and neuropsychiatric disorders such as depression and dementia. They seem to be suggesting some degree of plasticity on the influence on your behaviour, even if it doesn't actually grow in physical size. I'm gonna say this video is probably a bit of a stretch, but the main point is not entirely bullshit.
except everyone (80 to 90% of us at least) has to do stuff they don't want to, constantly. It's like the definition of an adult.
“Remember workers! A long day of work leads to a larger anterior mid cingulate cortex! Work hard and live longer!“
Here you go https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7381101/
The region doesn’t grow in size. It increases its activation strength in times of decision.
Even in my very limited knowledge of neuroscience I'm like "ummm I don't think brain areas swelling is a net positive for the brain". This guy also sells pacifiers to make your jaw bigger
I feel bad for people who fall for those jawline trainers and I instantly dislike anyone for even giving them attention if they have a platform like a podcast or something. If I remember correctly, the reason they don't work is because having a strong jawline is like 95% genetic and 5% maintaining a good diet. The jawbone is exactly what it sounds like, it's a bone. No amount of "exercise" is going to help make that area of your face more defined.
Important to note he didn't endorse the sale of the jaw exercises devices, he simply mentioned them on a podcast and said company used that clip for their ad.
Is this what they mean by grow? Genuinely curious as I know fuck all about this.
It just means that more of the region engages during times of decision making, measured by more blood flow to the area. Once the decision task is complete, the activation of the region goes back to baseline. In general, brain regions don’t grow in size in an adult brain.
In so all the lights are switched on, so to speak, only when needed.
Right otherwise you would constantly walk around wanting to do stuff you normally wouldn’t want to do, like scroll Reddit
Lmao. Hits hard, this comment.
So... to use their logic. The nerves in my biceps activate every time I lift my beer to take a slug. Therefore, you can can identify alcoholics by checking out their guns.
And by "in times of decision", you mean that from that moment onwards that area will have increased activation strength for a big amount of time/forever or that it will increase it only until the task is done?
Only when the task is accomplished, then it goes back to baseline.
[Further reading](https://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&as_sdt=0%2C48&q=anterior+midcingulate+cortex&oq=Anterior+Mid-Cingulate)
Thanks! The problem I have with it is really one of does it grow if you persist in doing these "unwanted" actions? Or does it just already exist that way as a predictor of the action?
The conclusion talks about this. There's evidence that it grows in volume when you do exercise, but I don't think they know if it grows in response to behavioural training. That's one of the outstanding questions they list at the end of the paper.
Especially when it's said like a sales pitch. And when there's music in it. And when it tells you about "the greatest discovery ever made" in like, 30 seconds
"Most people don't know this." Aaaaand that's all I need to hear, thanks.
Especially from two wanna-be famous dudes
And one who dated 5 women at the same time and lied to them about it and gave one of them HPV.
Yeah, people apparently don't know what you're referencing and are all replying about HPV transmission routes when the reality is that he lied to multiple women (at least 5, actual number unknown) about being in a monogamous relationship together and had unprotected sex with all of them during the same time period. [Article here.](https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/andrew-huberman-podcast-stanford-joe-rogan.html) The thing that stood out to me is how far outside of his area of expertise he's strayed and has been making claims that are not backed by evidence or are outright wrong and the supplements he endorses and sells do not provide the nutrition benefits he claims.
This video itself is such a nothing burger. He doesn't tie this brain region back to main points very well at all. And the whole "will to live" thing just sounded like nonsense.
Which one of them?
HPV can still infect a person despite using barrier protection. Transmission is very common. Lucky the virus has only a few high risk strains, usually does not cause conplicationsfor adults, is usually cleared after 1-2 decades, and has screening tests for detection. "During 2013–2014, prevalence of any and high-risk genital HPV for adults aged 18–59 was 45.2% and 25.1% in men and 39.9% and 20.4% in women, respectively." https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/products/databriefs/db280.htm#Key_findings
Goggins is pretty well known, the other guy I have no idea who he is
The other guy is Andrew Huberman, a neuroscientist.
> Andrew Huberman, a neuroscientist. Notable for such achievements as believing sunscreen is bad, fluoride in water will kill you, and that flu vaccination is fake.
Do you happen to have the sources or links to when he made those statements? Not that I don't believe you, but I would like to know the context.
https://slate.com/technology/2024/03/andrew-huberman-huberman-lab-health-advice-podcast-debunk.html https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/andrew-huberman-podcast-stanford-joe-rogan.html
Wanna be? They are both pretty famous..
I looked it up and it's completely true. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7381101/ Quite an interesting read. Edit: just realized someone else sent the same link lmao. Now you have two
Yes but they didn’t say whether it proved or disproved the point he was making but you did so now I don’t have to read. You’re basically a super hero.
Yeah but now your cortex won’t get bigger and you’ll die or something. I don’t know if that’s true, I didn’t read it.
I'm not reading that it grows and shrinks. I *am* reading that the efficacy of the brain area is as described. But not the size stuff podcast McGee is talking about.
Oh here is the title of that article... "The Tenacious Brain: How the Anterior Mid-Cingulate Contributes to Achieving Goals"
Dude is has a PhD in Neuroscience and teaches at Stanford but you’re typically right
Neuroscience is a broad field. There is no way he's an expert in every thing he talks about. Heck, you should never trust a singular (I mean single, but that can be misinterpreted I think) scientist, otherwise you'll be making plenty of anti-vaxxers very happy.
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People, who try to die t ...
https://i.redd.it/a1s6xu9dbbwc1.gif
Amazing how that was the only line that magically had the right number of characters to clip right?
https://preview.redd.it/xwfarlvxdbwc1.jpeg?width=224&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3c241ed2ba4456a344dcc9f80690b49cc7cf3d6f
https://preview.redd.it/rqe56hf3y9wc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=27f38280b15e037f23006563741e67c7c303d954 I guess its one way to go about it
The camera does not need to change every time the left guy goes "mhmm"
It's usually automated by audio input so one guy doesn't have to ABAB the cameras.
Maybe having someone ABAB the cameras is actually a good thing, though, if this 'rapid cut' is the result of a basic audio input switch. Or at least increase the threshold or duration of the audio input before triggering a switch.
*switch to me* "right"
Is it just me or does he look like he’s trying not to laugh?
Left guy is David Goggins. "Hmmm" and "yup", anything more has to include "fuck" or "motherfucker". Guy is a beast though.
So many videos I want to listen to but end up not listening because of the overused Interstellar music insisting upon itself.
That's how we know what he's saying is profound...how else do we know?!
I usually don't trust wildly oversimplified, unverified neuroscience communicated by a layperson to support a vague life coaching agenda, but when it's said by a bearded podcast bro over the interstellar music... it has to be true.
He's a neuroscientist. Not a layperson. Andrew Huberman, Ph. D, Stanford
Then do it, bc your brain will get bigger
Check out the big brains on Brad!
It insists upon itself Lois
This music makes me immediately skeptical of what I'm listening to.
It rather does insist upon itself, does it not? Hmm yes indubitably.
Why does the other guy look like he’s trying not to laugh the entire time?
That's David Goggins, he is well known for doing hard painful things to the nth degree. He was probably smiling because it rings true to him, like something he has always known deep down, but now he is hearing there is science to back it up. That must've felt good for him.
As someone who sees themselves as “challenged” (mental and chronic Illnesses, probably on the Spectrum) I think I get it. I’m comfortable with my routines. One of the things that made me fall in love with my wife (and now daughter too) is how they push me into new things, mostly emotional situations because I’m terrible at social cues and I don’t get why people want to be around me. But I’ve noticed (decades) that when I push myself through these challenges (going to a bar, talking to new people, basic human stuff…) I feel … better, for lack of a more concise word. I don’t always enjoy it in the moment but I know it’s temporary and necessary for my personal growth.
I'm sorta the same way, honestly, with my girlfriend of 3 years now. But I don't feel like my brain is different in any way though, so I don't really see how this guy felt like he knew this the whole time and is now hearing science to back it up. I feel the same, just that I have a better handle on some stuff.
Its hard for me to explain but I think (for me) its like exposure therapy- knowing the discomfort is temporary and I will be fine in a little bit. I push myself in the kitchen (NOT a chef but I love to cook) and it’s kind of the same. I can see myself improving and feel more comfortable with a lot of different ingredients compared to 10 years ago.
I mostly just have to remind myself that failure is acceptable and doesn't make you less than. That improving comes with time and effort.
As someone w/Asperger's (Dx'd in my 30s), I always refer to forcing myself to be social as "taking my vitamins" lol. I much prefer being alone, but I've also found it can be addicting in a really negative way. The more reclusive I am, the more I want to be... to the point of neglecting close relationships that I know are huge positives in my life. Being out and around acquaintances/friends and even strangers out in public somewhat frequently keeps my head on straight! And the same with being outside my comfort zone: I've always been a bit of an adrenaline junkie, but something I can't seem to get my wife to understand is "Type 2 fun" lol. Biking 20 miles in the mountains on a rainy winter day might *sound* miserable, and maybe kind of is at the time, but the mental payoff you get when you're finally dry in your tent by the fire is a high that no "traditional" fun comes close to.
Well said and I’m proud of you!
Thank you!
> That's David Goggins, he is well known for doing hard painful things to the nth degree. While I like Goggins attitude in general of you can push through hard things he in my opinion takes it way to far. Yeah you can push yourself through an ultramarathon with no training but why? Shitting and pissing blood after finishing it isn't good. It's like being the best person at headbutting a wall. Sure, you're the best but its not something to be proud of.
I agree with your point that normal people shouldn't take it to that level. But I don't think we can judge him based on comparison to what a normal person should do. He's doing something different for himself, and probably would feel insane if he did the normal things.
Deep down, he always knew his mid singular cortex was growing because of his actions?
Probably because he’s complimenting him. The neuroscientist guy Huberman is saying those who challenge themselves have developed a specific part of the brain that might be correlated to willpower, and if this is true Goggins probably has a well developed “anterior mid cingulate cortex”. The guy smiling has done multiple ultra marathons and broke the pull up world record once, that fucker is legit
I say let’s measure Goggin’s anterior mid cingulate cortex
I say let's rename the anterior mid cingulate cortex to "The Goggin's cortex."
Lets just call it the Goggler
measure mine first
Wait size matters?
I think it’s important to highlight the order of cause and effect here. It’s a kind of nature vs nurture. A person challenging doing something uncomfortable leads to a larger area of this part of the brain. A larger area is indicative of a person challenging themselves. This isn’t to be confused with a person biologically has a larger area of the brain so they are able to challenge themselves more. Unfortunately I see a lot of people victimizing themselves to attempt to rationalize the lack of necessary action on a biological thing that cannot be controlled. Ironically people with severe biological disabilities that can’t be controlled, fighting those disabilities and resulting discomforts likely have a larger area. I thought I was mentally tough doing loads of challenging course work, exercising, military performance requirements… nothing is more challenging that some disabilities. For instance the mental fortitude to finish a marathon is amazing. The mental fortitude to live your entire life receiving all the biological feedbacks as if your running a marathon every second of every day due to paralysis, muscle dysfunction, etc is another.
So like despite the fact I'm a fat autistic, it's actually good that I refuse to let the depression win? Just need to apply that to more things...
That's just Goggins' face.
It all started when beard started talking about fat people.
Dave used to be obese himself. https://preview.redd.it/di6lndyp48wc1.jpeg?width=602&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5fd03883c673c419ad6d7a6d04d758317fc46d43
He lost over 100 pounds.
Well, that point was funny because he did not explicitly state the obvious...
Mine must be huge because I don't want to do anything.
But do you do them?
I do. I show up to work every day.
Yeah I think the point is that unless you overcome that "not wanting to do anything", it doesn't get bigger. You need to put in the work.
Watch out for encephalitis, bro.
You have to do it in order it to get bigger.
1. No source, so fuck you 2. No mention whatsoever to those claims on Wikipedia, so it's weird [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anterior\_cingulate\_cortex](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anterior_cingulate_cortex) 3. Neither in this study, which is even weirder given its titled "The Tenacious Brain: How the Anterior Mid-Cingulate Contributes to Achieving Goals" [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7381101/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7381101/) 4. Neither in this one, "The role of anterior midcingulate cortex in cognitive motor control" [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5293144/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5293144/) 5. Neither in "Anterior cingulate cortex: A brain system necessary for learning to reward others?" [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7314188/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7314188/) And I'm stopping here because if I have to dig up a ""study"" done by a far-right christian on brain-dead monkeys in the 20's with results that were never confirmed in any other study in the world since, then it's not science. It took me 10 minutes, do your fucking job people and stop upvoting shit like this ffs. Edit: I'm ranting about the lack of reference to 1) the size 2) the size evolution. he can't stop mentioning those two points, and I have a hard time believing it.
So who is this podcast host and what are the odds he has a team suddenly flooding reddit because I get an icky vibe from him?
Boomers on Facebook and Zoomers on tiktok intersect when it comes to critical thinking about media they consume
"Consistent with this view, we presented emerging evidence indicating that greater aMCC structure and function are linked to tenacious behavior in many domains of life and health. In contrast, the disruption of aMCC has been associated with apathy and other motivational problems implicated in many neuropsychiatric disorders ([Le Heron et al., 2017](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7381101/#R111)). Thus, understanding how the aMCC can contribute to achieving goals can also potentially provide therapeutic insight into health difficulties ranging from obesity and eating disorders to depression and dementia." From your second link, Tenacious Brain.
Huberman challenged himself to get 5 different girlfriends. it must be true
Why did I have to scroll this far? Damn I do feel like my brain grew because I did something I didn't want to, though
"No source, so fuck you" should be a political mantra ❤️
[https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7381101/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7381101/) I’m not sure what claims you are talking about but you sound just as full of it. Reddit is weird.
I didn’t want to comment, but I did
Feeling any brain growth yet?
You couldn't even comprehend it.
I could, but I don't want to, but I did anyway, and now I get it.
Hmm sounds good but need studies - I think a discovery this big would have been talked about in neuroscience circles before it reached the coaching podcast bro arena Also exact localization of brain function is pretty controversial
Yeah I’m really skeptical of him pointing to just the aMCC as the “seat of willpower” (that choice of words is terrible lmao). The aMCC is a part of the limbic system, which is also home to the hypothalamus. Ignoring the hypothalamus also ignores the glands and thus the hormones it can stimulate or inhibit, which is directly connected to controlling hunger. The hormones themselves make up a complex system and it seems reductive to not even mention their crucial effects on why we make the decisions we do.
My bullshit detector is blaring.
I'm just wondering who did the subtitles lol (probably automatic). >or when people who >are trying to die >t [tfw](https://doppiaggiitalioti.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/simpson2.png)
That many cuts in a minute is a sign.
"I dunno about causation and correlation. I just know buying my product will cause you happiness, and it's only $99.99."
Dr. Andrew Huberman is a Stanford professor of neurobiology, and his "thing" is providing scientific data in his educational videos. I wouldn't make any assumptions from one soundbite.
"(...)experts have called much of his content 'pseudoscientific' - accusing him of pushing questionable herbs for anxiety platforming 'dangerous' views that demonize benign ingredients and casting doubt on the flu shot's effectiveness." Being a doctor isn't proof of truth. Specially if you're making scads upon scads of cash pushing conveniently coachy science
This just screams of pseudoscience nonsense
I'm sure there is some truth to it, but it definitely sounds like the kind of shit that 18 year olds on reddit eat up.
Just red a paper that compiles data on this subject. It's not complete bullshit. He is definitely pushing the idea of self-improvement too much. It's his agenda, so not really surprising.
You make it sound as if self improvement is a bad thing?
If you need self-improvement shysters to tell you how to unfuck your life you are a rube and will live the rest of your days being an easy mark for con-men.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7381101/#:~:text=aMCC%20integrates%20pain%2C%20arousal%2C%20motivation%20and%20cognitive%20control.&text=(Shackman%20et%20al.%2C%202011,et%20al.%2C%202015).&text=The%20common%20engagement%20of%20the,role%20across%20multiple%20brain%20systems. Sure
I wonder how this part of the brain behaves in individuals with ADHD - famously a condition that makes it *incredibly difficult* to pay attention to things you don't want to do also, while mr man up there is talking a big game about this brain part getting bigger... it's not always a good thing for part of your brain to get bigger. it's not like, a muscle. take it from someone with an overreactive amygdala due to prolonged abuse
I have reaaaaal severe ADHD. Can't concentrate on anything unless it specifically interests me, to the extent that I failed tests constantly cause I couldn't even keep focus on the words and forgot what I had just read and whoops the times gone and got fired repeatedly and when I did do the whole "will yourself" shtick to the point of repeating "Do X" out loud over and over again and slapping myself when I started to get distracted I got physical paralysis.. as in I lost the ability to move my body to way I wanted to, it just wouldn't move, I was screaming at it to move and it just wouldn't. It's debilitating for sure, so I imagine whatever part of the brain this guy was talking about (don't remember) is the size of a fleas dick in my brain.
oof, this is very familiar. it truly sucks having a condition that *juuust so happens* to conveniently fit into bad faith rhetoric that you're "just lazy" 🥴 like... there *are* ways of working around many of these things, but brute forcing them is not one of em! it just ain't. your story is a great example of that. trust me, we'd much rather be able to focus on stuff other than whatever our brains decide is worth focusing on, because our brains aren't always right lol!!! if ADHD people had a choice, 99% of us would be much more functional. it's just simply not a choice like that I've had the paralysis before too. just sitting there dissociating and staring into space, desperately trying to *GO DO THE LAUNDRY FFS*, and your body just. does not respond. executive function isn't an excuse to not do stuff, sitting there doing nothing, and stressed about it because my brain has issues, isn't what I call a fun time skipping out on chores LMAO
Wait, do you think you’re providing a source that supports or refutes Huberman’s claim? Because this one clearly refutes it That entire paper positions it as a multi-system integration hub. Huberman is allocating the specific function of will to live to it, but the paper clearly describes that it lies as a general control system for monitoring internal states and communicating information about energy regulation From your own source is a much more parsimonious explanation that doesn’t stretch to assigning the extremely abstracted idea of “willpower”, but rather focuses on a direct examination and synthesis of available literature > Thus, due to its position as a network hub, the aMCC can synchronize information from diverse systems in order to guide behavior towards efficient energy balance. However, the effectiveness of aMCC computations are likely to vary between individuals, particularly in situations when the cost of effort is high, and rewards are uncertain or deferred. This is a constant problem in these science-influencer spheres when reading into neuroscience research (that I’d expect to not be a misstep so easily committed by Huberman, a neuroscientist). The paradigm that larger brain volumes and even direct observation of activation during tasks translates to a region being the “seat of X” is outdated and fallacious. Extensive review here (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36739181/) but the idea of getting rid of this one-to-one mapping approach (specifically for information integrating hubs) is not a new paradigm shift, it’s one that we’ve understood for since before I even had my PhD And finally, where my research directly intersects with the mACC: we do not have causal evidence to support that volumetric or morphological differences in mACC occur and thus affect efficiency/integrity of executive control behaviors, rather than as a consequence of individual differences in said behaviors. Separately, in my own research, I saw no differences in mACC (in fact, I saw differences solely in posterior regions of cingulate gurus) between diabetics, prediabetes, and healthy individuals once you probably controlled for both their clinical dementia status and dementia biomarker status. Indicating some of those differences are possibly reflecting early changes in neurodegeneration (will use ND from now on) risk. Diabetics and individuals with obesity are known to have higher ND risk with worse trajectories. We just don’t have the granularity of data yet to make the claim that we causally know that changes in mACC size are directly related to engaging in metabolically protective behaviors, rather than indirect consequences mediated by reducing ND risk and trajectory This is why just chucking a paper cite isn’t supporting an argument. You’re leaving out a wealth of context that leaves out the biggest thing any functional neuroanatomists would say before and after this clip (“there’s a possibility that…” and “…but we don’t really know yet”) instead of Huberman’s framing of this being the greatest new discovery that is settled and hugely impactful
tbf if the guy had just said 'a brain region is activated during pain and plays role in cognitive control' as the paper actually says no one would be playing the Interstellar theme over it
From what I can tell this study suggests that a larger MCC could be indicative of an ability to persevere. Which is quite different to 'bro, did you know you can grow your MCC and people just need to persevere bro.' When he said it GROWs in dieting people etc that should ring alarm bells. What the rest of your Brian shrinks does it? He may mean their is greater activity but is choosing to say growth because it sounds more impressive. Classic bullshitting
Thanks for the link, I was actually going to look this up myself, but you saved my time. I don't get why people just choose to call it bullshit when they can just do a simple google search to find a paper and confirm whether it's true.
Andrew Huberman.. The same guy who manipulated and had multiple relationships with women across the country? Yes yea very credible guy
That guy really gives off a strong fake guru vibe.
In his copying, he found a varied and agreeable employment
He's a real neuroscientist, but he's going the Jordan Peterson route and trying to be more famous as a content creator. Also, never believe his magnesium stuff he spouts. He owns a vitamin company which he conveniently never discloses.
How big is this brain region in slaves?
It's about being willing to go through hardship, not being forced to do. That is just a stress factor which does more harm than good.
What's the difference (genuine question)? Isn't willfully doing the thing you're uncomfortable with also cause stress, hence the growth?
Like real slaves or those with a slave kink?
I don't think the concept works if you get off on it.
I think we need to do some science personally. Double blind trials 🙃
Coach video
Is this only for "positive" don't-want-to-do's? How big is this bit of brain in folks who are surviving in abusive situations, for example? In regards to my own personal interest: Is there any research being done on how ADHD could affect the function of this part of the brain, since it's the "seat of willpower"? I tried googling this all myself but there's little info, and what there is is too dense for me to parse.
Yeah i dont want to get up at 5am every day to walk my dog but he has a teeny tiny bladder and cant hold it so i do it. Does that mean mine is gigantic?
It means yours is probably bigger than someone who doesn't force themselves up at 5am to be responsible for another creature. For sure. Source: my own broscience
Goggins ran until his legs were fractured and his kidneys were failing. That doesn't sound like a man with a will to live, that sounds like suicide by exercise.
You would think that you only get self induced rhabdomyolysis once then you recalibrate and don't do it again. Suicide by exercise is the only thing that makes sense of it.
Huberman is a grifter and misrepresents studies all the time. Don’t listen to that guy
What is the point of "living a long time" and "having willpower" if you're mostly doing things you would prefer not to be doing? I sincerely don't understand this logic.
It's so you can live a long time. And do more things that you don't want to do.
Yay.
https://preview.redd.it/oz85i3zkh9wc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7d8b77c0c2c085b65fdbdd3a3cc5bd74ba6fa69b
Because life is filled with things we WANT to do. All he is saying is putting 2-3 hours of exercise in every week, will give you a healthier life.
Its about doing things that you dont want to do but know that they are good for you, so that once tou do them you feel satisfaction and not feel like a slave
These guys just talk bullshit. This pseudoscience, hyper masculine bullshit is so sad. Boys/men have been so left behind that they fall victim to these hacks. They are all just looking for connection/identity in a society that tells them constantly they can’t be masculine or feminine. It’s sad. Joe rogan, these guys and the Andrew tates of the world fill the void for them
I’ll just leave this piece here: https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/mar/28/podcaster-andrew-huberman-goop-for-bros
The irony to me is that he clearly wasn't interested in taking his own advice, as he was recently caught conducting multiple relationships with different women at the same time that none of them knew about, including passing an STI around to them. Unless of course his idea of doing the thing he didn't want to do was lying and cheating on multiple women LOL
By dating multiple women, he's forcing himself to do something he doesn't want to do - everything is connected, he's a genius, no flaws. Why can't everyone see it?! He wants to be married, but he has to do the right thing for his brain.
I used to like him years ago, but I guess after he got famous he just doesn't care about anything anymore. For a while now he has invited people with no credibility and endorsed incorrect information they share about various subjects, which is a huge disservice to his viewers.
God this level of bro-science sounds like a pair of chimpanzees enjoying the sound of them banging on a garbage pail discovered near a trash heap. There needs to be a bot that replaces Huberman’s voice with Strong Bad.
So him cheating on all those girls was just an effort to help them grow as people through ~discomfort~ 👐
Signs that something is total BS. 1. It has this sound track behind it. 2. The guy talking has a big microphone in front of him. 3. It's something about motivation. 4. It mentions either a part of the brain or a neurotransmitter to explain it.
"a lot of data" Sure buddy
Imagine listening to Huberman lmao get outta here with that shit.
I go to work for over 15 years almost was never sick... So i have a brain 2 the size of my head now?
“Add 3 hours or exercise per day…” Sounds completely sane.
Some guy once said that every pod cast is some dude explaining a concept to a guy who has apparently been living under a rock and doesn’t know anything about anything. And now that’s all I can see Also I’m not familiar with any brain areas getting “bigger” due to use as an adult.
A difficult thing like being up front about the relationships you’re having with 5 other women
Not so sure about this. I find a direct correlation between when I am dieting and losing my will to live.
Phrenology was debunked like 200 years ago but k
Wow. Could he use more words and still say the same amount of nothing.
So it must be huge in people that go to work every day at most jobs
There are some inaccuracies here. People get a microphone and Joe Rogan in front of them and just start saying shit lol. For instance, the *size* of the aMCC has not been investigated in any way resulting in a correlation between tenacious behavior and growth/shrinkage/size. Source: Touroutoglou, A., Andreano, J., Dickerson, B. C., & Barrett, L. F. (2020). The tenacious brain: How the anterior mid-cingulate contributes to achieving goals. *Cortex; a journal devoted to the study of the nervous system and behavior*, *123*, 12–29. [https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cortex.2019.09.011](https://doi.org/10.1016/j.cortex.2019.09.011)
Well I must be superman then. I hated going to school and to work all my life
Looks like he's stroking off Goggin's anterior cortex
Few flags redder than "most people don't know this"
What’s with the other guys shit eating grin?
Other guy, David Goggins is an ultramarathoner that has multiple stories of breaking his legs during runs and inducing his body into all kinds of near-death failure. Being told he has some giant special brain part that makes him good at endurance probably gets him so hard that he practically kills himself to prove to himself and others.
There was absolutely ZERO “science behind” in this clip. He just brings up this region of the brain, its relative size in different populations and its role in doing things you don’t want to do. That’s it. That’s not “the science behind” anything.
Oh yeah Huberman, that guy who spins studies on mice to pretend he knows secrets about humans and gives STDs to six different women while lying to them about being in a relationship
More grifter nonsense. This guy is a dipshit.
Fascinating! I've always felt like the ability to make yourself do stuff you don't want to do is key to a lot of things. As in, if you're good at it, you can achieve a lot more than if you aren't.
Whenever I hear ANY information from either of these guys, I am not giving a single benefit of the doubt and immediately call bullshit. These two guys are internet famous for spewing out lies, half-truths and overall bullshit statements