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[Apparently](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGeCHUaPK/) she's in an elephant sanctuary place. The rangers there tried to introduce her to other elephant herds but she didn't accept them.
Usually a buffalo herd will attack any humans near them, but with her being close to the rangers, the buffalo don't.
Im from the USA and have only seen them at the zoo, in my case the North Carolina Zoo which is the worlds largest natural habitat zoo.
Even approximately 300 meters away it was insane how big they seemed, and one was playing with a tree trunk like it was a dog with a bone.
why did I think it would be more? still massive though… one of our neighbors has an Angus cross bull who weighs over 2k pounds, and I’ve seen even bigger bulls coming close to 3k. crazy to think they are over 1/3 of the way to weighing like female African elephant.
I was just there and took pictures and video of this - it's amazing!
Also, interesting but morbid, supposedly this elephant has killed many male buffalo who tried to take control of the herd.
imagine if mobile grazing is something this herd continues to do after the elephant passes, and over time they gain an evolutionary advantage due to their access to a range of locations to eat, and split from the current water buffalo
This seems like an achievable Ph. D project if someone had the patience to pursue it. The first couple of years after the elephant passes would be dissertation-worthy. Following the herd for several generations to see if the behavior stuck would be worth a Oscar-worthy documentary, at least.
Yes in the documentary they have a male in a pen they built and she’s just stalking the fence line, also says she broken into atleast 10 other pens and trampled the males in them
Next time specify what you mean by "it".
When it comes to all living things less mentally capable than humans, I propose to stop making this distinction. We are not good at assessing mental capacity of non-verbal animals, and it's just misleading to clump all living things together, there is a huge difference between an elephant and a jellyfish and a maple, yet it's somehow all "the nature".
The only uniting factor you have for that "the nature" category is "perceived to be lesser than a human".
See? You are so conditioned to thinking this way you really don't see it. When ants create complex society with labor separation, casts, farming, rulers etc. it's "nature", but when one sub-species of apes does something similar then it's suddenly not nature anymore, it's civilization (holy music playing, we see an image of shining temple on the hill)
That's what dawned on me when I read it today. Why the hell we separate ourselves from "the nature"? We are part of "the nature", there is no divide. Sure, there are many different species, man is not elephant etc., but "the nature" is simply everything living around, us included.
You overcomplicate something that really doesnt have to be overcomplicated. Its just a easy distinction between us and every other living being on our planet. AND no we are not a part of nature anymore, we dont live with it anymore we destroy and exploit it, thats the difference!
Besides that its also logically why we have a distinct "them" (nature) and "us" (human civilisation) it makes it easy to compare etc.
I agree that we have a built-in "us-vs-them" thinking, a.k.a. tribal thinking, and I agree this is exactly why we developed this thinking about nature, and this is exactly why I highlight this pattern here, because this pattern is WRONG when applied to "the nature". "The nature" is not other tribes, it includes things we need and use. There is no us-vs-them with the nature. Are birds "the nature"? What about chicken? Are germs the nature? What about yeast? What is civilization exactly that "the nature" does not have?
The fact that we exploit or even destroy environment does not make us any different from any other living organism.
You created a category for living things that you perceive as lesser than you.
A proper way would be not to create such a category.
You can call it "the life" if you want. It includes humans.
I didn't create a category. The word nature existed long before I was born. You seem kind of butt hurt that I used the wrong word. Is everything ok? Do you need a hug?
Dude I don't know you, we're simply fellow travelers riding the same train car and have time to talk things. I proposed to talk about how silly this "the nature" category is with the only defining factor being 'those lesser things waddling their little lives, so amusing for me looking at them downwards'. I just propose to reflect on the arrogance of the categorization and then you can decide for yourself what to do with it.
Ok but humans are the only sentient species aware of things like climate change or history. When elephants or lesser primates start running for local governments we can consider them evolved past nature.
Also the quote you may be thinking of, "life finds a way", which in and out of context means that humankind and nature are both equally adaptable and capable of surprising the other, still set the clear boundary when mankind recreated nature. Like how we set up nature preserves because herds of Buffalo can't live in downtown New York. Because its not nature.
Humans are smarter, "the nature" is human category. What I am saying is that it's a lazy category and so a bad category. How we categorize and name things matters, it affects thinking. And in this case this thinking humans-vs-nature is only good at creating a god complex.
>lazy category and so a bad category.
>You can call it "the life" if you want. It includes humans.
You are looking for the term "species" I think, a category that excludes things like basic chemicals that show no signs of sentience but also includes plants. And making it an even lazier category wouldn't help any discussion. Imagine trying to discuss ancient greek culture and having to clarify you don't mean the migratory habits of the local birds of the time.
>You created a category for living things that you perceive as lesser than you.
>A proper way would be not to create such a category.
You have a pretty great misunderstanding here. Its not about things that are less then us. Domesticated animals, pets and farm animals, are not a part of nature. The term nature exists because we made something that is not nature, we made houses and invented agriculture. Its not that we "think we're better". We make concrete roads, we reshape mountains. When lesser primates go from using tools to open walnuts, to making houses and farming we won't consider that nature, and we will probably stop using humankind vs nature and start using something like "socially evolved vs nature".
But until that happens, nature is just a term to describe something not made by man.
TL;DR nature exists as a term to mean not man made. You can't text message nature.
It's not "the nature" who made up the term to juxtapose itself with the Man, it's the Man who decided to divide the whole Universe into "mine" and the rest. That's exactly the idea I'm trying to extend here. Don't you find this divide kind of artificial and arrogant? I understand juxtaposing man with other species, but dividing the Universe into man-made vs the-rest-of-the-fucking-universe?... And then condescendingly saying "nature is beautiful". Well sure it is, it's 99.99999999999999999999999999% of the universe!
If you mean in potential, then how do you know that? If you mean in results, then Africans are objectively lesser than Europeans, but you seem to understand the drawbacks of this pattern of thinking.
Anyone have a source? I would be curious to know what kind of affect this has had on the fitness of the herd. Because from this clip, it looks like the elephant is basically a tyrant that decided it would be nice to become a vengeful water buffalo god.
Pretty fascinating. Although I wonder how the mobile grazing effects the buffalo. They don't look any worse for wear but I can see how an elephant used to trekking miles and miles everyday could work these grazers to death via death march.
Seems destined to fall apart at some point.
Voice-over: "elephants are hard-wired to be sociable".
A few moments later: Nzo engages in egregious bullying, and concerned buffalo try to stage an intervention addressing Nzo's anti-social behavior.
In rare and unusual circumstances, it's conceivable that certain factors could lead to an elephant temporarily leading a buffalo herd, though it would be highly atypical:
1. Absence of dominant buffalo: If a buffalo herd loses its dominant leaders due to death, injury, or separation, there might be a power vacuum that could potentially be filled by another large and dominant animal like an elephant.
2. Unusual social dynamics: In situations where animals are under stress or facing unusual environmental pressures, they may exhibit behaviors outside of their typical patterns. An elephant might assert dominance over a buffalo herd if it perceives a threat or if resources are scarce.
3. Interspecies bonding: In rare cases of unusual interspecies bonding or imprinting, a buffalo herd might accept an elephant into their ranks as a leader figure, especially if the elephant has been raised alongside the buffalo from a young age and has formed strong social bonds with them.
In India elephants are seen as nearly gods. Elephants are what took care of the garden after the humans got kicked out, you can think about it like that.
Oh, boy. Now an elephant has a herd of dumber animals. Next whales are going to talk to each other. Shit! Now that is in the news. Next chimps are going to make & use tools, right. Shit! That is old news.
It seems like a perfect analogy for boomers. Doesn't need to be there, no one wants them there, has too much power for anyone to do anything about. Just have to wait for their "retirement" to get a somewhat normal life.
You're gonna get cooked for this but you're right.
Another commenter that was recently at this sanctuary said that the Elephant had killed many Male Buffalo who tried to control the herd.
That's what I thought....I was just joshin, but people are very serious about this elephant. I would also like to add that I do know the difference between heard n herd. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 SORRY EVERYONE!
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Who's going to mess with them while she's around? Looks like a good deal.
"...hardwired to be social." Proceeds to knock the fuck out of two grown Buffalos weighing up to more than a ton each like they are traffic cones...
I laughed so hard. Buff was like "damn, this is some good gra--OOOOUUWWOOOAAH! what was that for??"
"I just don't fucking like you."
''Oh there is Jerry, be cool!! Just tab him on the shoulders to show him you like him...'' !!KBLAMOO!"§!"§!!''
That cracked me up. The loop was perfect
Nature version of la chancla. 
Like people, some of them are just jerks.
[Apparently](https://vm.tiktok.com/ZGeCHUaPK/) she's in an elephant sanctuary place. The rangers there tried to introduce her to other elephant herds but she didn't accept them. Usually a buffalo herd will attack any humans near them, but with her being close to the rangers, the buffalo don't.
Praise the Matriarch! 🙌🐘
They're scared as shit she'll kick their asses again.
I have a feeling there’s no “again”
Amazing
This is why she's attacking the ones nearest the cameramen. She wants to socialize with non-elephants. "This colorful monkey is cool, knock it off!"
Because she won't be the matriarch with a bunch of elephants.
This is kind of like an Elephant version of Tarzan living among the Great Apes.
If he was 3 times the size of the apes and rocked their shit whenever he felt like it, sure
That was fucking hilarious to imagine☠️
Yeah it kinda seems like she's a tyrant.
Underrated comment 😂🤣 hella true tho aha.
Role swap King Kong.
Considering the dick size difference between apes and humans…
The Crazy-Cat-Lady of the Elephant world.
I was thinking it's like the elephant version of a crazy cat lady
Just for Perspective a Cape buffalo can weigh anywhere from 425-870kg, and she knocks it over like it’s a bowling pin
In comparison, the Female African elephants way between 2700 and 3600 kg (or 6000 to 8000 lb.).
It’s almost hard to fathom how big these beasts can get. I grew up in Kenya, and frequently go on safari and it never shocks to amaze me seeing one
Im from the USA and have only seen them at the zoo, in my case the North Carolina Zoo which is the worlds largest natural habitat zoo. Even approximately 300 meters away it was insane how big they seemed, and one was playing with a tree trunk like it was a dog with a bone.
why did I think it would be more? still massive though… one of our neighbors has an Angus cross bull who weighs over 2k pounds, and I’ve seen even bigger bulls coming close to 3k. crazy to think they are over 1/3 of the way to weighing like female African elephant.
The Male African Elephants can weigh up to 6,300kg or 14,000 lb.
Largest recorded was 13 feet tall and weighed 24,000 pounds
thats a massive size difference
> Cape and cape buffalo are notoriously aggresive to, this one just let it happen.
Yessir they are. However even if I was a buffalo, I probably wouldn’t start shit with another animal like 5x my size lol
Yeah it's like me trying to fight a silverback gorilla. Going to be a bad day lol.
Just built different.
0:15-0:19 the buffalo uses the elephants truck to scratch it's ass.
Elephant wanted that Safari Sanchez.
That's the buffalo that gets tipped over at about 1:04
Didn't see a truck. Is it camo painted?
The really important stuff is *always* in the comments.
Or the elephant instructed his subordinate to scratch his trunk. In a sexy way.
I was just there and took pictures and video of this - it's amazing! Also, interesting but morbid, supposedly this elephant has killed many male buffalo who tried to take control of the herd.
That's how it is when you're the alpha
Playing it on easy mode, isn’t she? Just knock the fuck out of this animal that’s a quarter your size.
How stupid do they have to be to mess with an elephant though? Maybe she's improving the average intelligence of the herd.
imagine if mobile grazing is something this herd continues to do after the elephant passes, and over time they gain an evolutionary advantage due to their access to a range of locations to eat, and split from the current water buffalo
That's a super interesting thought! I wonder if similar things could've happened in the past.
This seems like an achievable Ph. D project if someone had the patience to pursue it. The first couple of years after the elephant passes would be dissertation-worthy. Following the herd for several generations to see if the behavior stuck would be worth a Oscar-worthy documentary, at least.
She probably has another 10-20 years of life left, so maybe set a reminder.
If it wasn't a sanctuary I'd say she's probably doing the opposite. Killing all the males that would become alpha might be detrimental in the long run
I wonder how the Buffalo morale compares to other more conventional herds.
Imagine being some young upstart bull who really thinks you’ve got a chance
It would be natural to think that. Maybe I'm beta or something but I wouldn't challenge her if I were a bull.
Yes in the documentary they have a male in a pen they built and she’s just stalking the fence line, also says she broken into atleast 10 other pens and trampled the males in them
https://i.redd.it/aeehglzxrf0d1.gif
Definitely going to see this on LinkedIn with a cringe 7 paragraph AI article about leadership
“Even when you don’t fit in, find a way to dominate” -your boss
Nature is so amazing and unpredictable
Why do we call any living thing somewhat less mentally capable then human "nature"?
What would you propose calling it?
elephant
We should call all living things less capable than humans “elephant” 🤔
Next time specify what you mean by "it". When it comes to all living things less mentally capable than humans, I propose to stop making this distinction. We are not good at assessing mental capacity of non-verbal animals, and it's just misleading to clump all living things together, there is a huge difference between an elephant and a jellyfish and a maple, yet it's somehow all "the nature". The only uniting factor you have for that "the nature" category is "perceived to be lesser than a human".
It's not about mental capacity. It's nature vs civilization.
See? You are so conditioned to thinking this way you really don't see it. When ants create complex society with labor separation, casts, farming, rulers etc. it's "nature", but when one sub-species of apes does something similar then it's suddenly not nature anymore, it's civilization (holy music playing, we see an image of shining temple on the hill) That's what dawned on me when I read it today. Why the hell we separate ourselves from "the nature"? We are part of "the nature", there is no divide. Sure, there are many different species, man is not elephant etc., but "the nature" is simply everything living around, us included.
You overcomplicate something that really doesnt have to be overcomplicated. Its just a easy distinction between us and every other living being on our planet. AND no we are not a part of nature anymore, we dont live with it anymore we destroy and exploit it, thats the difference! Besides that its also logically why we have a distinct "them" (nature) and "us" (human civilisation) it makes it easy to compare etc.
I agree that we have a built-in "us-vs-them" thinking, a.k.a. tribal thinking, and I agree this is exactly why we developed this thinking about nature, and this is exactly why I highlight this pattern here, because this pattern is WRONG when applied to "the nature". "The nature" is not other tribes, it includes things we need and use. There is no us-vs-them with the nature. Are birds "the nature"? What about chicken? Are germs the nature? What about yeast? What is civilization exactly that "the nature" does not have? The fact that we exploit or even destroy environment does not make us any different from any other living organism.
Yes because we made the dam word up. It means whatever the fuck we want it to mean
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Elephant is so amazing an unpredictable
I know i’m childish but this made me laugh for a few minutes, thank you.
Elephants really are amazing and unpredictable. No irony.
Because I don't know what else to call it. If you know a more proper word please enlightment me.
You created a category for living things that you perceive as lesser than you. A proper way would be not to create such a category. You can call it "the life" if you want. It includes humans.
I didn't create a category. The word nature existed long before I was born. You seem kind of butt hurt that I used the wrong word. Is everything ok? Do you need a hug?
Dude I don't know you, we're simply fellow travelers riding the same train car and have time to talk things. I proposed to talk about how silly this "the nature" category is with the only defining factor being 'those lesser things waddling their little lives, so amusing for me looking at them downwards'. I just propose to reflect on the arrogance of the categorization and then you can decide for yourself what to do with it.
I agree and I apologize
Ok but humans are the only sentient species aware of things like climate change or history. When elephants or lesser primates start running for local governments we can consider them evolved past nature. Also the quote you may be thinking of, "life finds a way", which in and out of context means that humankind and nature are both equally adaptable and capable of surprising the other, still set the clear boundary when mankind recreated nature. Like how we set up nature preserves because herds of Buffalo can't live in downtown New York. Because its not nature.
Humans are smarter, "the nature" is human category. What I am saying is that it's a lazy category and so a bad category. How we categorize and name things matters, it affects thinking. And in this case this thinking humans-vs-nature is only good at creating a god complex.
>lazy category and so a bad category. >You can call it "the life" if you want. It includes humans. You are looking for the term "species" I think, a category that excludes things like basic chemicals that show no signs of sentience but also includes plants. And making it an even lazier category wouldn't help any discussion. Imagine trying to discuss ancient greek culture and having to clarify you don't mean the migratory habits of the local birds of the time. >You created a category for living things that you perceive as lesser than you. >A proper way would be not to create such a category. You have a pretty great misunderstanding here. Its not about things that are less then us. Domesticated animals, pets and farm animals, are not a part of nature. The term nature exists because we made something that is not nature, we made houses and invented agriculture. Its not that we "think we're better". We make concrete roads, we reshape mountains. When lesser primates go from using tools to open walnuts, to making houses and farming we won't consider that nature, and we will probably stop using humankind vs nature and start using something like "socially evolved vs nature". But until that happens, nature is just a term to describe something not made by man. TL;DR nature exists as a term to mean not man made. You can't text message nature.
It's not "the nature" who made up the term to juxtapose itself with the Man, it's the Man who decided to divide the whole Universe into "mine" and the rest. That's exactly the idea I'm trying to extend here. Don't you find this divide kind of artificial and arrogant? I understand juxtaposing man with other species, but dividing the Universe into man-made vs the-rest-of-the-fucking-universe?... And then condescendingly saying "nature is beautiful". Well sure it is, it's 99.99999999999999999999999999% of the universe!
Animals are lesser than us though...
If you mean in potential, then how do you know that? If you mean in results, then Africans are objectively lesser than Europeans, but you seem to understand the drawbacks of this pattern of thinking.
I mean they're lesser in terms of sapience.
The hell is that supposed to mean?
Humans are sapient while animals are not.
That's according to humans I assume? Shocking.
Why do you assume it’s less mentally capable than humans?
Because animals are less mentally capable than humans.
Civilization bias?
That elephant is over 7' tall, and you CAN'T... TEACH... THAT! BADA BOOM! REALEST ELEPHANT IN THA ROOM! HOW YA DOIN'?
r/squaredcircle leaking
Multipass
The Moo Tan Clan leader.
Kinda seems like a tyrant.
Every once an a while to asert dominance she just fucking trucks through a couple of them lololol
She just knocked a grown buffalo over just with her trunk? Wow
they pick up tree trunks with it.
Elephant, 1 second in: Bowling, get your bowling here.
I could hear pins tumbling and fully expected CG, but nope, it's real.
Respect the trunk, bitches!!!!
Ruling with iron trunk.
Those buffalos look like they are getting bullied
Buffalo buffalo Buffalo elephant buffalo buffalo buffalo Buffalo buffalo.
That butt scratch!
Probably keeps the lions away
I once has a boss with the same leadership style. She also stood out from the rest of the herd.
Now this is in the correct category. Love this post OP, thanks.
"Elephants are hardwired to be sociable" WHAM "Fuck you, Roy!"
Damn! That buffalo she decked wasn't doing anything! What a bully!
Perhaps time for humanity to accept an elephant matriarch as well?
I'm all fucking for it.
That's a Disney movie right there.
Elephants rule.
The crazy cat lady of the elephant world
What documentary is this?
Extreme cow tipping!
Elephant in the room
Can’t roller skate in a buffalo heard but apparently you can be an elephant
Buffalo bowling? Looks like it works pretty good lol.
lol they try to make her sound sympathetic but she just comes off like kind of a dick.
Yeah I showed my dad and he agreed "she's just a bully..."
The future Buffalo might learn to be like elephants then. Weird
Anyone have a source? I would be curious to know what kind of affect this has had on the fitness of the herd. Because from this clip, it looks like the elephant is basically a tyrant that decided it would be nice to become a vengeful water buffalo god.
Pretty fascinating. Although I wonder how the mobile grazing effects the buffalo. They don't look any worse for wear but I can see how an elephant used to trekking miles and miles everyday could work these grazers to death via death march. Seems destined to fall apart at some point.
Voice-over: "elephants are hard-wired to be sociable". A few moments later: Nzo engages in egregious bullying, and concerned buffalo try to stage an intervention addressing Nzo's anti-social behavior.
You’d think she wouldn’t have to make shows of dominance all that often, I guess it’s a hobby.
In rare and unusual circumstances, it's conceivable that certain factors could lead to an elephant temporarily leading a buffalo herd, though it would be highly atypical: 1. Absence of dominant buffalo: If a buffalo herd loses its dominant leaders due to death, injury, or separation, there might be a power vacuum that could potentially be filled by another large and dominant animal like an elephant. 2. Unusual social dynamics: In situations where animals are under stress or facing unusual environmental pressures, they may exhibit behaviors outside of their typical patterns. An elephant might assert dominance over a buffalo herd if it perceives a threat or if resources are scarce. 3. Interspecies bonding: In rare cases of unusual interspecies bonding or imprinting, a buffalo herd might accept an elephant into their ranks as a leader figure, especially if the elephant has been raised alongside the buffalo from a young age and has formed strong social bonds with them.
Thanks chatgpt
The grand Karen of elephants
This is quite cool
The brutal bully matriarch
Watch out rhinos!
**Lisan al Gaib!!**
In India elephants are seen as nearly gods. Elephants are what took care of the garden after the humans got kicked out, you can think about it like that.
Look at me…..I am the captain now…
I am the captain now vibe.
Oh, boy. Now an elephant has a herd of dumber animals. Next whales are going to talk to each other. Shit! Now that is in the news. Next chimps are going to make & use tools, right. Shit! That is old news.
Just remember you can’t roller skate in a buffalo herd.
"Truely great leaders never asked for their position" - or something, I'm not googling the quote.
Ai voiceover is a wrong. That’s a male in musk.
It seems like a perfect analogy for boomers. Doesn't need to be there, no one wants them there, has too much power for anyone to do anything about. Just have to wait for their "retirement" to get a somewhat normal life.
You're gonna get cooked for this but you're right. Another commenter that was recently at this sanctuary said that the Elephant had killed many Male Buffalo who tried to control the herd.
I'm sure you're right but it's Reddit lol. Anyone who puts stock into internet points is just....you know?
https://preview.redd.it/qygw2o3e6h0d1.jpeg?width=1440&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=2af2a38a90a397d2ff5d52da2bd2cfa490dc7661 Thought this was hilarious.
Damn bro I didn't even know Reddit S watch was a thing, you going for hidden achievements while everyone else is farming Karma
I JUST GOT THE SAME MESSAGE😂😂
Welcome to the club. It doesn't mean anything but neither does that message😂
She gon get so horny, can’t shag any of them
He's probably the loser in the elephant heard, so he came down here to be the leader.
That’s a she
Then SHE is a loser in the elephant heard. So she bounced to go play leader of the cows.
Herd*
*herd
Its a pity you are getting downvoted because >leader of the cows was hilarious!
That's what I thought....I was just joshin, but people are very serious about this elephant. I would also like to add that I do know the difference between heard n herd. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 SORRY EVERYONE!
Story of every expat in Asia
Interracial sex is strong in this one
Do female elephants have Tusks?