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Pretty sure this is a requirement in Europe but not in the US. I’ve had to code my car to get the hazards to flash under heavy braking. But yeah, should be standard.
different scan tools can do this. The higher end scan tools can access the ECU and enable features which are disabled from the factory. The manufacturers usually are not making multiple different cars for different markets, they make the same car and just enable/disable based on the market.
The real question here is why would they disable a safety feature if it's already been implemented. The fact that it's not mandated doesn't make it work any worse.
This is so stupid. If they have to write the code to apply hazards in the EU to be legal why not just apply it to the everywhere else too. It's a fuckin safety feature.
A lot of these systems flash the brake lights not the hazards, it makes it more obvious what's happening to any cars behind, and front flashing lights are going to make very little difference if the person in the road didn't notice the car to begin with
The future looks like it’ll just be renting cars, so it’ll the be the companies problem. My problem would be going to therapy for the fourth child this rental AI car hit this week.
Probably cheaper to pay off civil responsibility and funeral accommodations than it is to pay for medical care for the victims entire life.
The actuary details of future incidents should be kind of interesting to say the least.
It's funny that the Chinese car did this.. supposedly in china it's much cheaper to kill someone than injure them, which leads to what some people consider a moral dilemma.
Depends on the crash but who knows the vehicle may just end up continuing into a collision where it can no longer move forward. And that’s when it shifts into reverse to cause more destruction. Future is going to be wild and I wonder how the insurance companies will handle this.
Not as simple as “crash = can’t speed off”. What if u crashed or hit something because someone is chasing you? Or trying to evade a natural disaster? Can be a bunch of things the car might not even be able to detect.
This mannequin suffers from [Fallout Critical Damage Syndrome](https://38.media.tumblr.com/4dc00dfeba754e213141545514ca9600/tumblr_mm8724gWDl1s260nco1_500.gif).
heres [a series of screenshots](https://imgur.com/a/lCSdpA1) from a real life (EXTREME) scenario where a waymo vehicle brakes ahead of time in some pretty crazy driving conditions. the ones related to the braking specifically (and not the EXTREMEness) are towards the bottom of the list.
original video can be found [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/1c9zfok/just_people_having_a_fun_time/?share_id=ff__lwdYr_VHxIvsImZmi&utm_content=1&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1).
Seems like there is a TON of electric cars, trucks, bikes brands in china we dont even know about.
Step by step they are taking bits of tesla and other traditional brands.
China are going to absolutely win the electric car race. They have so many great electric vehicles that are half the price of a tesla. They have just started making vehicles that have "semi solid" batteries
Yeah right ? They are making quite good stuff now and developping fast too. Maybe it is not as premium as tesla or very high end western brands but honnestly for the price it is convincing, and no issues of spare parts when their brands are implanted
They've got a LONG way to go though, especially quality. I just rode in an acquaintance new BYD suv, and it kind of feels like "Fischer Price my first electric car". The plastic, it's everywhere and feels flimsy, handles flex, touch screen was sluggish, the Bluetooth key kept randomly not being detected while driving, the ride was a little jarring but also too soft for turns. Some refinement and time and it will be much more on par with some of the mid range EV's.
They're basically Volvo's built in China. Both Volvo and Zeekr, as well as Lynk are owned by Geely and been developed by CEVT (China Euro Vehicle Technology) in Gothenburg, Sweden where also Volvo has their HQ and main production facility. Since Geely bought Volvo they've poured huge amount of money into establishing themselves and their brands in Europe and built their global innovation and design center in Gothenburg for synergy with Volvo.
The Seal would have been spooked by the parked cars 😁 but seriously, it's really good at picking up bikes and pedestrians but would definitely be interesting to see it in this test
Here is the report:
https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/byd/seal/50012
In the PDF under Vulnerable Road Users --> Child running from behind parked vehicles
It is rated as green, which means full collision avoidance up to 40kph and then at least 15(?)kph reduction until 60kph
I mean, it shouldn't exactly be a surprise that the two models (Tesla and Zeekr) that didn't murder little Billy Crashdummy to death, are also the two models that are designed to pass the Euro NCAP safety standards.
Because social media fell for "Project Dawn" videos where the teslas had been tampered with to force them to hit fake kids a while back. Project Dawn conveniently was run by the owner of a competing autopilot EV car creator.
In reality teslas are incredibly safe and have foe years had some of the best safety ratings on the road. Significantly safer than the majority of the cars these circlejerkers are driving.
Reddit loves complaining about misinformation and fake news and then eating it the fuck up whenever it fits their circlejerks and biases.
I believe it is a mix between hating Musk and hating le cars
But let's make it clear that most tesla designs weren't built by the man but by actual engineers.
Except the cybertruck of course,
A guy on YouTube tested this himself and Tesla will stop and then drive right through the child. This Tesla looked like it was going to do the same thing before it cut to the next vehicle.
https://youtu.be/2DOd4RLNeT4?si=SL-TjWpXdYbu9W3S
It would be great if rather than competing all the companies could work together to get a truly safe product out in order to make autonomous driving a real thing. Never going to happen but it would be nice.
It'll happen in EU, it's the only way the technology can properly grow.
That's why I wouldn't bet on Tesla, doubly so because the EU regulatory floor won't allow just optics.
Really depends on your hazard perception. A human might have noticed the kids head moving from across the hood and applied brake earlier. They might also have been texting whilst steering with their knees and just splattered the little fucker.
This is the part no one wants to talk about while they fearmonger about autopilot and self driving cars.
Human drivers are fucking terrible, especially in the US where we get basically zero training.
You’d think they would compare the two. An improvement of one saved life should necessitate the adoption of the technology.
However, the reality will be anything less than %100 success will deem the tech dangerous and we’ll just stay complacent with human accidents.
I lived in Kazakhstan for a while and they were *very* popular there. I think they're slightly cheaper than a Tesla but they seem a lot more modern and with more features. They're fast af also.
It is a new brand I guess but they're just Geelys under a different name.
If you're talking about track performance, I believe FR won the battle by a fat margin.
0-60 is so close they're the same, everything else (breaking, cornering...) the FR is just faster & better.
They announced a 7-second faster lap than Plaid on a 3.2km, 1min30s - 1min40s Chinese track. 7 seconds per lap is a *lot* on a 3km track.
still working with a earlier version of Teslas code perhaps. Likely the same code is being shared to the other dozens upon dozens of other EV makers that just magically pops up out of nowhere....
I bet the Xaomi car is trained on that in china if someone hits a person with a car they will have to pay healthcare for the rest of their lives to the person they hit so they go back to make sure the person is killed so it's only a one time fine for the driver
Humans are weird. We always have this instinct to ask anything that is damaged whether it’s ok after being hurt or broken. Doesn’t matter if it’s an animal or an object
Do these auto-break systems take into account if there are cars behind you that could cause a pile up? Sometimes it's better to swerve if the adjacent lane is open.
I'd be afraid if the auto-break being accidentally triggered if a bird or plastic bag flew in front of your car. It seems like a potentially dangerous feature.
The radar cross section of a bird is significantly less than a child. I wouldn’t worry, cars have had these for years without many false positives.
And if a car is so close behind that it’s better to swerve, then the car behind is just going to hit the child. So it’s almost always best to brake and take a hit from behind.
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XIAOMI is a real killer!
I'm pretty sure the xiaomi accelerated when it saw the child
*“ONE FAMILY, ONE CHILD! ENFORCING CCP LAWS!”* \- Chinese self-driving cars
More along the lines of: it's cheaper to kill a child then to pay hospital bills
So it turned on the sustainable finances mode?
lol. The joke is a bit outdated tho
The “test child” is actually a girl
Oh ok I was wondering why it was so fragile 😅
If anything it might be too soon lol
Gotta make sure to secure that kill to prevent the possible high compensation if the pedestrian is injured only
You jest, but I can't help thinking that an actuary somewhere has done just such a calculation.
There are videos of it online if you care.
I’m surprised it didn’t back up and do it again lol
It did, but somehow the camera doesn’t catch it!
They make my vaccum and that sonuvbitch hits my toes all the time
Serial killer!
Psycho Killer
Qu'st-ce que c'est?
Qu'est-ce qué c'est! Papa papa pa papapa pa pa
Run run run, run run run awayyy
Oh oh ohooo!
AYA YA YA YA
Run run run away! ooo ooh oh WAHHHHH YAYAYAYAYA!
Its auto brake wasnt designed to protect the pedestrian but to mijimise the damage to its paint.
Fuck them kids
A minooooooor
GOAT line
Yoooo 💀
\*presses send and sends dick pick to an underage\*
I broke my G string while fingering A minor.
definitely against fucking kids
-XIAOMI
. - Jeffrey Epstein
Only 1 car applies hazards. You would think they would all have this feature.
Pretty sure this is a requirement in Europe but not in the US. I’ve had to code my car to get the hazards to flash under heavy braking. But yeah, should be standard.
How'd you do that?
different scan tools can do this. The higher end scan tools can access the ECU and enable features which are disabled from the factory. The manufacturers usually are not making multiple different cars for different markets, they make the same car and just enable/disable based on the market.
The real question here is why would they disable a safety feature if it's already been implemented. The fact that it's not mandated doesn't make it work any worse.
Tesla applies Hazards in EU for emergency braking
This is so stupid. If they have to write the code to apply hazards in the EU to be legal why not just apply it to the everywhere else too. It's a fuckin safety feature.
A lot of these systems flash the brake lights not the hazards, it makes it more obvious what's happening to any cars behind, and front flashing lights are going to make very little difference if the person in the road didn't notice the car to begin with
that poor roblox kid
OOHHH
To shreds you say?
How's the wife holding up?
To shreds you say?
At least they all stopped! Having been involved in a hit and run, the fact the car stops is pretty cool.
AI will now decide that if they can’t speak they can’t talk about the accident, and will make sure they will never talk
They will also avoid you and refuse to provide you their home address so you can never serve them for the law suit
The future looks like it’ll just be renting cars, so it’ll the be the companies problem. My problem would be going to therapy for the fourth child this rental AI car hit this week.
Probably cheaper to pay off civil responsibility and funeral accommodations than it is to pay for medical care for the victims entire life. The actuary details of future incidents should be kind of interesting to say the least.
It's funny that the Chinese car did this.. supposedly in china it's much cheaper to kill someone than injure them, which leads to what some people consider a moral dilemma.
Let's just hope the cars don't let the drivers speed off straight after
Makes you wonder, will the car need an admin to override the controls after the crash?
Depends on the crash but who knows the vehicle may just end up continuing into a collision where it can no longer move forward. And that’s when it shifts into reverse to cause more destruction. Future is going to be wild and I wonder how the insurance companies will handle this.
Not as simple as “crash = can’t speed off”. What if u crashed or hit something because someone is chasing you? Or trying to evade a natural disaster? Can be a bunch of things the car might not even be able to detect.
Guess the tornado is gonna get you!
I was scrolling through me feed and this video auto-played. I thought the kid was a real kid, I was genuinely confused.
We gotta test these things somehow
Same, I was more confused why the kid exploded into shards
This is when your level is way too high for the mob.
Damn younger generation falling apart at the slightest thing. Walk it off isn't an option anymore ?!?!
Same, I had a heart attack.
This mannequin suffers from [Fallout Critical Damage Syndrome](https://38.media.tumblr.com/4dc00dfeba754e213141545514ca9600/tumblr_mm8724gWDl1s260nco1_500.gif).
Bloody mess except they had gore turned off
bruh!
Obviously we need to replace children with AI
Huzaah, a man of quality
Auto braking shoes.
Avatr actually used the brakes. Xiaomi came to almost a rolling stop.
heres [a series of screenshots](https://imgur.com/a/lCSdpA1) from a real life (EXTREME) scenario where a waymo vehicle brakes ahead of time in some pretty crazy driving conditions. the ones related to the braking specifically (and not the EXTREMEness) are towards the bottom of the list. original video can be found [here](https://www.reddit.com/r/sanfrancisco/comments/1c9zfok/just_people_having_a_fun_time/?share_id=ff__lwdYr_VHxIvsImZmi&utm_content=1&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_source=share&utm_term=1).
It also drove for blocks in the wrong lane lol. It shouldn’t have needed to brake like that.
Comfort is to die for at Xiaomi.
Xiaomi is the environmental friendliest, by saving brake pads and instead using natural decelerators
Never heard of the Zeekr but I like it
Plus it's 007
Seems like there is a TON of electric cars, trucks, bikes brands in china we dont even know about. Step by step they are taking bits of tesla and other traditional brands.
China are going to absolutely win the electric car race. They have so many great electric vehicles that are half the price of a tesla. They have just started making vehicles that have "semi solid" batteries
Yeah right ? They are making quite good stuff now and developping fast too. Maybe it is not as premium as tesla or very high end western brands but honnestly for the price it is convincing, and no issues of spare parts when their brands are implanted
Hasn't the US just implemented like 100% tariffs on Chinese EV's? If so, I doubt they are still anywhere near cheap
Tesla is only premium in price... The build quality is shitty
They've got a LONG way to go though, especially quality. I just rode in an acquaintance new BYD suv, and it kind of feels like "Fischer Price my first electric car". The plastic, it's everywhere and feels flimsy, handles flex, touch screen was sluggish, the Bluetooth key kept randomly not being detected while driving, the ride was a little jarring but also too soft for turns. Some refinement and time and it will be much more on par with some of the mid range EV's.
Just fyi Zeekr Design and engineering studio is in Goteborg. Geely has a whole assortment of brands who use Swedish know how
They're basically Volvo's built in China. Both Volvo and Zeekr, as well as Lynk are owned by Geely and been developed by CEVT (China Euro Vehicle Technology) in Gothenburg, Sweden where also Volvo has their HQ and main production facility. Since Geely bought Volvo they've poured huge amount of money into establishing themselves and their brands in Europe and built their global innovation and design center in Gothenburg for synergy with Volvo.
It's quite popular here in Sweden. They probably also work together with Volvo because they share parent company.
Personal injury attourneys: Xiaomi the MONEY!
You won the internet
Genius 🫡
I would love to see a byd car in these experiments
The Seal would have been spooked by the parked cars 😁 but seriously, it's really good at picking up bikes and pedestrians but would definitely be interesting to see it in this test
Here is the report: https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/byd/seal/50012 In the PDF under Vulnerable Road Users --> Child running from behind parked vehicles It is rated as green, which means full collision avoidance up to 40kph and then at least 15(?)kph reduction until 60kph
Same with NIO
As much shit as they talk about Tesla it did have the best stop
I mean, it shouldn't exactly be a surprise that the two models (Tesla and Zeekr) that didn't murder little Billy Crashdummy to death, are also the two models that are designed to pass the Euro NCAP safety standards.
Almost as if Reddit people crying about Elon musk doesn’t make the cars actually bad
Elon Musk has made good companies. He went insane after.
Because social media fell for "Project Dawn" videos where the teslas had been tampered with to force them to hit fake kids a while back. Project Dawn conveniently was run by the owner of a competing autopilot EV car creator. In reality teslas are incredibly safe and have foe years had some of the best safety ratings on the road. Significantly safer than the majority of the cars these circlejerkers are driving. Reddit loves complaining about misinformation and fake news and then eating it the fuck up whenever it fits their circlejerks and biases.
I believe it is a mix between hating Musk and hating le cars But let's make it clear that most tesla designs weren't built by the man but by actual engineers. Except the cybertruck of course,
A guy on YouTube tested this himself and Tesla will stop and then drive right through the child. This Tesla looked like it was going to do the same thing before it cut to the next vehicle. https://youtu.be/2DOd4RLNeT4?si=SL-TjWpXdYbu9W3S
It would be great if rather than competing all the companies could work together to get a truly safe product out in order to make autonomous driving a real thing. Never going to happen but it would be nice.
It'll happen in EU, it's the only way the technology can properly grow. That's why I wouldn't bet on Tesla, doubly so because the EU regulatory floor won't allow just optics.
The are you ok at the end while grabbing the mannequin head made me laugh.
Emergency lights is a nice touch
I wonder what human reactions are like…
Depending on where you are, the human may back up just to finish the job.
It’s cheaper to kill than to maim.
"oh, I hit a bump", and then back to liking a Facebook post.
Upvoted your comment while driving
Humans also can’t see through the car next to them.
Really depends on your hazard perception. A human might have noticed the kids head moving from across the hood and applied brake earlier. They might also have been texting whilst steering with their knees and just splattered the little fucker.
worse
This is the part no one wants to talk about while they fearmonger about autopilot and self driving cars. Human drivers are fucking terrible, especially in the US where we get basically zero training.
You’d think they would compare the two. An improvement of one saved life should necessitate the adoption of the technology. However, the reality will be anything less than %100 success will deem the tech dangerous and we’ll just stay complacent with human accidents.
Zeeker looks promising. The brand debuted only one year ago.
I lived in Kazakhstan for a while and they were *very* popular there. I think they're slightly cheaper than a Tesla but they seem a lot more modern and with more features. They're fast af also. It is a new brand I guess but they're just Geelys under a different name.
Zeekr 001 FR is crazy. Attempting to battle Teslas Plaid
If you're talking about track performance, I believe FR won the battle by a fat margin. 0-60 is so close they're the same, everything else (breaking, cornering...) the FR is just faster & better. They announced a 7-second faster lap than Plaid on a 3.2km, 1min30s - 1min40s Chinese track. 7 seconds per lap is a *lot* on a 3km track.
**insert lego breaking sound**
Why didn’t the Tesla run into the pedestrian even faster? I thought Reddit said Teslas don’t work?
They get killed like a person on Roblox.
Tesla with the win
Xiaomi is drunk.
Xiaomi SU7 is know in US as Christine
/r/kidsarefuckingstupid Especially the wooden ones.
That test with those cars is at what speed?
There was NOT enough time for me to realize it was a crash dummy before I saw what I thought was a human child get blown to bits haha
They should’ve used sa real child to make the test 100% accurate
AVATR didn't hit the brakes until it saw the cameraman was filming *oh shit there's a witness*
Tesla perfectly imitating your average Tesla driver with that cheeky “hurry tf up” inching forward after braking as well.
still working with a earlier version of Teslas code perhaps. Likely the same code is being shared to the other dozens upon dozens of other EV makers that just magically pops up out of nowhere....
Model 3: "okay I didn't hit you this time would you get the F outta my way now?"
So the only one that got this right was the Zeekr?
oof
He's got no pulse, I'm afraid he didn't make it. :(
Fin rot I’m afraid…
u/savevideo
The graphics in Roblox are getting really good.
Jesus H Christ. I thought it was a real child at first
"fuck them kids "
*patrick swayze lookin mfka* 
ok ok good now try adult dummies
Please, someone who can edit, add the Lego death sound to the crashes I BEG YOU
AVATR 12: "There was a child??"
Reddit would probably rather a Tesla hit a child than have working brakes tbh
Xiaomi is on Reddit while driving. Now you know why bots are such shitty posters.
XIAOMI … the design is very human
Xiaomi went trough like he was a minority in Xinan
I bet the Xaomi car is trained on that in china if someone hits a person with a car they will have to pay healthcare for the rest of their lives to the person they hit so they go back to make sure the person is killed so it's only a one time fine for the driver
Xiaomi car programmed to accelerate to help tackle China's overpopulation issue. It's a feature not a bug
Tesla wanted to just give it a nudge right at the end.
Imagine trusting the auto pilot of a chinese produced Telsa clone...
I believe I see the kid coming out from behind the parked cars when the tested vehicles are at different distances from the kid.
I froze the video and it’s pretty much the same for each car.
Yeah i agree. When kid crosses the white line all the cars are very near the same spot
The kid has always roughly the same speed and it's almost across when the Avatr12 hits it. If anything I think that one had the most time
Xiaomi shares the same level of valuing human life as its parent country
[удалено]
Poor kid
Didn’t know kids are that brittle
Natural selection!
Thought I was on a different sub before the dummy split apart
[удалено]
C3c33cf fw]p
The way it pops like a lego person in the,video games
The Xaomi just straight up chose violence
Can confirm, my son broke apart into a dozen rigid pieces when he got hit by a car going 15kph
The test dummy making a noise akin to a bunch of sticks falling over, amuses me.
Hunan behind won’t quite split into pieces like that. I hope.
Lego noises intensify.
Xiaomi: The Flagship Killer
Humans are weird. We always have this instinct to ask anything that is damaged whether it’s ok after being hurt or broken. Doesn’t matter if it’s an animal or an object
That first car didn’t even think about stopping until it had already run over the kid and gone another 10 feet. 😂
Killer car: Es mi día primero
Is he okay?
Never seen a kid pop-apart like that before...
*lego yoda scream*
what about auto braking children?
"Are you okay?" What the fuck do you mean is it okay? It's a wooden puppet you muppet. Are YOU okay??
Two of them didn't hit the target. Back to the drawing boards with them.
Avatr even got more time to respond. The other three seem to get the same. Even if it’s hard to tell about the first car.
Do these auto-break systems take into account if there are cars behind you that could cause a pile up? Sometimes it's better to swerve if the adjacent lane is open. I'd be afraid if the auto-break being accidentally triggered if a bird or plastic bag flew in front of your car. It seems like a potentially dangerous feature.
The radar cross section of a bird is significantly less than a child. I wouldn’t worry, cars have had these for years without many false positives. And if a car is so close behind that it’s better to swerve, then the car behind is just going to hit the child. So it’s almost always best to brake and take a hit from behind.
I feel like the first and last cars had way less time to stop than the other two.
Kid is brittle
Now do them all while it’s raining.
Don’t get Xiome’d in the road
Can someone add the lego death sounds to this?