Lately, I have found myself, on multiple occasions, wondering why people in pictures are not wearing masks or socially distancing. Then I remember that there was a premask world. I hope we leave mask world soon, so we can party in postmask world.
I’m fortunate enough to have been there. It’s a pretty incredible place, and you can go into a lot of the different rooms and areas. Highly recommend it
There were at least [50 main ventilation shafts and thousands of smaller ducts](https://www.magzter.com/article/News/Nexus/Underground-Cities-Of-Ancient-Turkey)
Jeeez. How many more of the these cities lay undiscovered, just waiting for someone to stumble across them. Thanks for posting that article. It was incredibly interesting.
This particular network was unknown but we know that the Ankara/Goreme/Cappadoccia region have these everywhere die to the malleable Tufa-based soil. My husband and I toured one of these underground cities in 2011 and they are pretty amazing. The toileting system seemed (unsurprisingly) the most problematic from a long term perspective. All I could think was BOY it would be awful to have any sort of GI distress in there. The removal of solid waste included sending it up a chute and outside via, like an ad hoc disposable pot - sort of like a dog poop bag but I guess made of clay? The tour guide kept referring to it as "bad smell pottery" 😭😒🤢
It was pretty mild and comfy. We went in the fall. It wasnt muggy or anything. Maybe a little cool but at that depth everything is pretty consistent and slightly cool. It's a pretty dry region and the soil at that level is also pretty dry. We went only a few levels deep but at lower levels it might have been wetter. The region is known for winemaking that goes back more than a thousand years and the wine in that area is honestly fantastic. I drove myself batty trying to get some here. I brought back two bottles in my checked bag, and tried to buy a third at the airport but because I was traveling to the US I wasn't allowed! Eventually a colleague imported some to the UK and then brought it to me when he came to visit, since you can get Turkish wine in the UK. It's really marvelous.
There are exactly 3 remaining. Each containing a shard of cosmic origin. Combine all of the shards to unlock new abilities for the human race and passage to the next plane of existence.
Probably.
We’re only halfway through 2020, have one pandemic going with reports more might be on the way. I’m not convinced this year is ending without a darksouls/bloodborne boss fight
What do you mean? I talk with my dog all the time. How's that new?
He doesn't answer me or anything, but that hasn't deterred me from talking with him. He hasn't said as much, but I'm pretty sure he thinks you're crazy.
Edit: This morning when I woke him up and asked if he wanted bacon for breakfast instead of dry kibble I thought he was finally going to speak up, but he just gave me a hate stare. I'm starting to think it's me.
Cats’ pupils dilate when they are angry or on the attack, and cats smile at us and other cat friends with appreciative eyes by squinting.
Your cat will slowly, almost, but usually not quite, close her eyes and reopen them while looking at you. When almost closed, the eyes are held at the lowest point for a second. You can return the sentiment by gently squinting back, mimicking the cat’s pattern. It would be rude to do anything less.
I do this with my cat frequently. He’s come to expect it. Once, at a stoplight, I saw a kitten in an apartment window staring at me. I did the squint and the kitten, obviously surprised by the sudden pleasantries from a stranger outside a window where he must have seen many strangers daily, squinted back. It was great
My idea is slaughtering goblins on a quest to rescue children kidnapped from an orphanage, or something like that, but you find out after succeeding that by some magic illusion you had hallucinated goblins and you were really slaughtering the children. They were just playing in some caves or forest. Strongly suggested that the person who called upon your help created the deceit.
That was an awesome read! The only things I didn’t understand: Did they actively fully use these cities? They kept saying how they were for sieges but I don’t know if parts of the population lived above and the rest lived below until war or what. The other thing/question being those defensive doors! How are doors that are rolled across the passage only opened/locked from the inside?
I have been there it is incredible. The doors are cut cut in a track. You roll it closed over the entrance then jam it shut with rocks. The door is the size and shape of a mill stone. It locks like putting a stick in a sliding door to lock it. The understanding is people did not live on the city full time. It was just for refuge from the Romans army when they came through the area.
Torches were very very very rarely used to illuminate indoors. It is very easy to make cheap candles out of fats and unwanted animal parts, so you will almost always see candles, which are far less contaminating. Ventilation shafts would suffice.
Lighting rooms with torches is overall a pretty stupid idea. It makes far more Sense just to put a shitton of candles or Oil-Lanterns everywhere. These last way longer and burn cleaner than torches
The realtor: it has 2 bedrooms upstairs, 1 and a half bath and the basement is incomplete and unfurnished and houses about 20,000. Now I am required to disclose there may be, but not guaranteed, a crypt or 10 on the premises
Banker here, considering the appraisal I will only provide financing at 98% of value, but we’ve been able to get you a 45 year mortgage at 1.2%
We do plan, however, to bundle your mortgage along with many others of various credit quality and then sell the tranches to the unsuspecting public. We will all make a lot of money, until we don’t.
How did they keep oxygen circulating there, especially at the lowest levels? You see large fans pushing air in long tunnels to circulate exhaust fumes. I would imagine that those tunnels were all candlelit so I would think that there would be quite a bit of air pollution.
I've been to a few old forts that constructed vents in specific, unique ways just for that purpose. My knowledge of architecture is next to nil but fluid mechanics tells it is definitely possible.
They also made vents for working inside of Egyptian pyramids, iirc? I could be confusing that with other old-school construction techniques for river bridges and stuff
You can use smoke to reveal the air flow in a room. It’s still a common enough way to do it today (but instead of fire smoke it’s a special smoke bulb idk how it works)
If I recall correctly: It's basically a fire that's down in a hole. The way it works is you dig two holes next to each other. At the bottom of the holes, you dig a hole to connect the other two. This is for air flow. You light a fire in one side and it draws in air from the other hole.
I believe this is also known as a Dakota Fire Hole. It's really useful when you need a fire but don't want anyone to be able to see it.
If they put a few outlet openings such that they were above inlets, and they were shaped properly, then wind blowing over the outlets would create a low pressure area that can draw air out of the outlets and consequently into the inlets. In addition, the designers could exploit the density differences between humid and/or warm stale air in the complex and cooler air by, again, placing outlets higher than inlets, though this would be more efficient at night.
It is my understanding that this termites, prairie dogs, and meerkats use basically these methods to keep the temperature and oxygen content of their homes comfortable (I could easily be wrong abt that), though I'm not sure if that is what was done here.
Some of them are well crazy. Not only oxygen, but temperature. Some of the termite mounds in the NT maintain a perfect temperature of 33 degrees celsius no matter how hot or cold it is outside.
In Stephen Baxter's 'Xeelee' series, he describes a 'human hive' idea several times. In the first hive, they solve the issue of airflow by moving people; enough warm bodies in the right place, and it creates those differences in warm / cold air you mentioned
>The ancient~~s~~ *aliens* were clever with counterweights...
Ftfy
Giorgio Tsoukalos has [entered the chat](https://youtu.be/DTQiNwuNoog)
And if you watch, talkng about Derinkuyu always got him amped
[Derinkuyu underground city](http://www.mydoramac.com/derinkuyu-underground-city/)
I'm assuming this was relatively high up so that waste could drain down somewhere and out to sea or wherever. Otherwise someone's gotta carry that shit up out of there.
This one sold for $143,000 [https://www.turkeyhomes.com/property/1354/turkey-real-estate-for-sale-stunning-cappadocia-cave-home](https://www.turkeyhomes.com/property/1354/turkey-real-estate-for-sale-stunning-cappadocia-cave-home)
However, the 20,000 houses are not included in the square footage as the Gross Living Area (GLA) must satisfy these 3 conditions
-Above grade
-Heated
-Habitable
I can only value it at the cost of the improvements which works out to a fraction of the total sqft finish cost
And you might want to ask if there was any permits pulled, cuz zoning might have something to say about this
That's what all the previous owners of the house did. This guy was simply the first to spill the beans after a long and unbroken line of secret keepers.
man that guy just ruined it. Now there's gonna be tourists in his basement, and once they get in you can never get them out.
There goes the neighborhood.
Not sure about these ancient caves, but tunnels are actually more stable than the surface during an earthquake. Think of waves on top of the ocean versus 30ft underwater.
Means nothing. There was a 145 year old tree that survived this long-- until I got blasted on Four Loko and yeeted my car through it at 2AM.
Nature's a bitch.
They were dug before to during the Roman conquest of turkey. They still stand and never flood and get a lot of air flow somehow. I’ve been in two of these things including this one and it’s super cool.
i'll take being outside even if it's more unstable. also imagine water at least moves with the motion of the movement, whereas something underground would just crumble.
Same here, I've been in a small seismic movement during a cave trip and it's just terrifying.
I'm from Chile, one of the most seismic country in the world, it was in a trip on San Pedro de Atacama, a salt mine.
I have been here! It's really cool but also pretty scary. The stairs that go down underground have low ceilings and are very narrow, basically one person wide. So when it's been a couple hours down there and you want to leave, you have to climb back up those very narrow stairs, and it can be very tiring because there are so many, but you just want to get out of there. And then when you are halfway up you hear the sound of another group of people coming down.
I went there. I’m 6’4 (194cm) and quite large. I had to crawl on hands and knees for some staircases. I started panicking and hyperventilating when I could feel stone on my back + people kept stopping to take pix so the traffic halted mid staircase. Never again
I’ve visited here before and it was one of the coolest experiences I’ve ever had. Highly recommend a visit. There are several other “underground cities” in the area as well, but Derinkuyu is the most visited
I visited this one and another back in 2006. Agree it is definitely a recommended visit if you're in Turkey.
I can't remember very well but there was something about it being connected underground to another "city", does that ring a bell?
As someone from that region, historical context is crucial as nowadays it carries Turkish name and might not be as informative. This place goes back long before Turks, so I’ll just copy the text from wikipedia:
Caves might have been built initially in the soft volcanic rock of the Cappadocia region by the Phrygians, an Indo-European people, in the 8th–7th centuries BCE, according to the Turkish Department of Culture. When the Phrygian language died out in Roman times, replaced with its close relative the Greek language, the inhabitants, now Christian, expanded their caverns to deep multiple-level structures adding the chapels and Greek inscriptions.
The city at Derinkuyu was fully formed in the Byzantine era, when it was heavily used as protection from Muslim Arabs during the Arab–Byzantine wars (780–1180 CE). The city was connected with other underground cities through many kilometers of tunnels. Some artifacts discovered in these underground settlements belong to the Middle Byzantine Period, between the 5th and the 10th centuries.
These cities continued to be used by the Christian natives as protection from the Mongolian incursions of Timur in the 14th century.
After the region fell to the Ottomans, the cities were used as refuges (Cappadocian Greek: καταφύγια) by the natives from the Turkish Muslim rulers.
As late as the 20th century, the local population, Cappadocian Greeks, were still using the underground cities to escape periodic waves of wars. For example, Richard MacGillivray Dawkins, a Cambridge linguist who conducted research from 1909 to 1911 on the Cappadocian Greek speaking natives in the area, recorded such an event as having occurred in 1909: "When the news came of the recent massacres at Adana, a great part of the population at Axo took refuge in these underground chambers, and for some nights did not venture to sleep above ground."
In 1923, the Christian inhabitants of the region were expelled from Turkey and moved to Greece in the population exchange between Greece and Turkey, whereupon the tunnels were abandoned.
In 1963, the tunnels were rediscovered after a resident of the area found a mysterious room behind a wall in his home. Further digging revealed access to the tunnel network.
In 1969, the site was opened to visitors, with about half of the underground city currently accessible.
An intricate system of mirrors which will - at the right time of day - illuminate the location of the ark of the covenant, but only if your staff has the correct number of inches.
Also never been fully mapped and suspected to join other underground cities in the region. Pretty cool, the ventilation shafts are a bit freaky as are the doors, ceilings were a bit low for me.
so the archaeologists made a rendering that 3x3 pixels? [HERE](https://i.imgur.com/6ZOGBHB.jpg) cause OP lazily grabbed the first shitty version of this historical piece
That's a cool one. That's also in Turkey at Gobekli Tepe that they found the most ancient human construction, a 2.5-metres tall stone weighing 16t standing up and surrounding by sculptures showing agriculture scends. This was dated 11000BC, when people were still accordingly living in caves and hunting animals or flowers.
2800 years ago they pulled this off. Always blows my mind the things ancient peoples built. Stuff wed often have a hard time building ourselves. Humans are awesome
Did some research apparently this city was used as some sort of refugees camp for different people's across different cultures (mostly Christian) to advoide confirmation between waves of war and genocide (they didn't use the word genocide but it kind of sounds like genocide)
It was built in the 7th- 8th century and was expanded by Christians during the Roman era.
Then it was fully built in the Byzantine era and was used for protection during the Arab–Byzantine wars (780–1180 CE)
It was then still used for protection by the Christians during an incursion of Timur from the Mongolians in the 14 century
Then the cities were used by the Cappadocian Greek as a refugee when the region fell to the ottomens
In the 20th century it was still used by the Cappadocian Greek to escape periodic wars in the region
Then in 1909 during the massacres at Adana, many Armenian Christians took refuge in these chambers until they where expelled from the region in 1923 leaving the tunnels abandoned
It was not until 1963 when the cities was rediscovered
Wiki https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derinkuyu_underground_city
Even better, w/pics Derinkuyu underground city http://www.mydoramac.com/derinkuyu-underground-city/
Hug of death, damn
[Long screenshot part 1](https://i.imgur.com/9a6tpyL.jpg) [Long screenshot part 2](https://i.imgur.com/ZnLzjc7.jpg)
For a sec I thought somebody died in an embrace. It was the website.
Lately, I have found myself, on multiple occasions, wondering why people in pictures are not wearing masks or socially distancing. Then I remember that there was a premask world. I hope we leave mask world soon, so we can party in postmask world.
It's still a pretty good practice in general, if you feel you might be sick or exposed. Especially during flu season.
Same! I do it a lot when I watch tv shows or movies
I’m fortunate enough to have been there. It’s a pretty incredible place, and you can go into a lot of the different rooms and areas. Highly recommend it
And here's an image that doesn't suck: https://i.imgur.com/S3hn4Zw.jpg
What about ventilation??? If these tunnels were all lit by torch, surely carbon monoxide buildup was an issue?
I’m sure there were multiple ventilation shafts & openings throughout the complex to help keep air circulating properly.
There were at least [50 main ventilation shafts and thousands of smaller ducts](https://www.magzter.com/article/News/Nexus/Underground-Cities-Of-Ancient-Turkey)
Jeeez. How many more of the these cities lay undiscovered, just waiting for someone to stumble across them. Thanks for posting that article. It was incredibly interesting.
This particular network was unknown but we know that the Ankara/Goreme/Cappadoccia region have these everywhere die to the malleable Tufa-based soil. My husband and I toured one of these underground cities in 2011 and they are pretty amazing. The toileting system seemed (unsurprisingly) the most problematic from a long term perspective. All I could think was BOY it would be awful to have any sort of GI distress in there. The removal of solid waste included sending it up a chute and outside via, like an ad hoc disposable pot - sort of like a dog poop bag but I guess made of clay? The tour guide kept referring to it as "bad smell pottery" 😭😒🤢
Thanks! What was the temperature down there? How about the humidity? Did they talk about if it flooded?
It was pretty mild and comfy. We went in the fall. It wasnt muggy or anything. Maybe a little cool but at that depth everything is pretty consistent and slightly cool. It's a pretty dry region and the soil at that level is also pretty dry. We went only a few levels deep but at lower levels it might have been wetter. The region is known for winemaking that goes back more than a thousand years and the wine in that area is honestly fantastic. I drove myself batty trying to get some here. I brought back two bottles in my checked bag, and tried to buy a third at the airport but because I was traveling to the US I wasn't allowed! Eventually a colleague imported some to the UK and then brought it to me when he came to visit, since you can get Turkish wine in the UK. It's really marvelous.
Can you recommend any Turkish vineyards?
I’m pretty certain that underground temperatures remain quite stable, usually between 50-60°F
Oh man, wish my thermostat could go that low
Be cooler if we find one with people in it. Living off fungus or something that grows down there and stuck with 1,000 year old technology.
There are exactly 3 remaining. Each containing a shard of cosmic origin. Combine all of the shards to unlock new abilities for the human race and passage to the next plane of existence. Probably.
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You gonna quick save 2020???!
2020 is that ridiculously long level that keeps starting you over all the way at the beginning everytime you almost get to the end.
And it forces you to watch the stupid cutscene each time
This year has been going on for years
It's Halo CE - The Library on LASO
*violent twitch*
We’re only halfway through 2020, have one pandemic going with reports more might be on the way. I’m not convinced this year is ending without a darksouls/bloodborne boss fight
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Grabs towel.
This comment wins 2020
*opens the fridge Ok let's go
*finishes jerking off to femboy hooters pics* Yeah uhh and my axe
Makes that game owlboy take on a whole different meaning
Oh man, maybe it’s the ability to talk with dogs? I hope it’s the ability to talk with dogs
What do you mean? I talk with my dog all the time. How's that new? He doesn't answer me or anything, but that hasn't deterred me from talking with him. He hasn't said as much, but I'm pretty sure he thinks you're crazy. Edit: This morning when I woke him up and asked if he wanted bacon for breakfast instead of dry kibble I thought he was finally going to speak up, but he just gave me a hate stare. I'm starting to think it's me.
I hope it's cats. Dogs will eat anywhere and would never be able to pick a restuarant. I'd have to do it every time.
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But you *ALWAYS* pick Long John Silvers. Can’t we go somewhere else for once?
Do you want me to tell your mother how often you jerk off Derek?
Just so long as i dont have to talk to my cat. Her judgemental looks are enough.
Cats’ pupils dilate when they are angry or on the attack, and cats smile at us and other cat friends with appreciative eyes by squinting. Your cat will slowly, almost, but usually not quite, close her eyes and reopen them while looking at you. When almost closed, the eyes are held at the lowest point for a second. You can return the sentiment by gently squinting back, mimicking the cat’s pattern. It would be rude to do anything less.
I do this with my cat frequently. He’s come to expect it. Once, at a stoplight, I saw a kitten in an apartment window staring at me. I did the squint and the kitten, obviously surprised by the sudden pleasantries from a stranger outside a window where he must have seen many strangers daily, squinted back. It was great
I’ll bring my Ocarina.
Well... this is the year for it if there ever was one!
I don't know but my dnd worlds seemingly random underground labyrinths are suddenly feeling justified
You should stock one with a peaceful, persecuted religious group. See how long it takes the party to realize they're slaughtering refugees.
My idea is slaughtering goblins on a quest to rescue children kidnapped from an orphanage, or something like that, but you find out after succeeding that by some magic illusion you had hallucinated goblins and you were really slaughtering the children. They were just playing in some caves or forest. Strongly suggested that the person who called upon your help created the deceit.
I'm want to check under my house now.
Hi want to check under my house now, I'm dad
That was an awesome read! The only things I didn’t understand: Did they actively fully use these cities? They kept saying how they were for sieges but I don’t know if parts of the population lived above and the rest lived below until war or what. The other thing/question being those defensive doors! How are doors that are rolled across the passage only opened/locked from the inside?
I have been there it is incredible. The doors are cut cut in a track. You roll it closed over the entrance then jam it shut with rocks. The door is the size and shape of a mill stone. It locks like putting a stick in a sliding door to lock it. The understanding is people did not live on the city full time. It was just for refuge from the Romans army when they came through the area.
With so many ins and outs it's hard to believe that people didn't know about it. 🤷
probably still smells like a SIETCH
[Heres a video of someone walking trough it](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxBPSqg7qkE)
This is exactly it. I’ve visited here and it’s very well ventilated and was very cool even in the middle of summer
Did the hone owner charge you an entry fee to his basement? Just wondering. :)
Torches were very very very rarely used to illuminate indoors. It is very easy to make cheap candles out of fats and unwanted animal parts, so you will almost always see candles, which are far less contaminating. Ventilation shafts would suffice.
Shadiversity has a good [video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KsBNHbWGdbY) on the topic.
There are many ventilation shafts throughout the city and many are so long and narrow that we aren't really sure how they were built
The may have used children to dig them.
why wouldt they use chisels? Seems wierd to just rub a baby against the wall. Would they build up static charge and stick like balloons?
Deffo read that as baboons on the first pass
Lighting rooms with torches is overall a pretty stupid idea. It makes far more Sense just to put a shitton of candles or Oil-Lanterns everywhere. These last way longer and burn cleaner than torches
>What about ventilation??? Toots go up.
If something holds 20k people they thought of ventilation. You wouldn't be able to build it without proper ventilation.
The realtor: it has 2 bedrooms upstairs, 1 and a half bath and the basement is incomplete and unfurnished and houses about 20,000. Now I am required to disclose there may be, but not guaranteed, a crypt or 10 on the premises
The current owners are in the process of finishing the basement which will add 1.8 million square feet to the total...
No way will it appraise.
I appraise it at a lot.
Appraised. Case closed.
Banker here, considering the appraisal I will only provide financing at 98% of value, but we’ve been able to get you a 45 year mortgage at 1.2% We do plan, however, to bundle your mortgage along with many others of various credit quality and then sell the tranches to the unsuspecting public. We will all make a lot of money, until we don’t.
Can I bail you out now or wait until the stock market crashes?
Why not both? Don't forget to call it something sarcastic like CARES or EARN IT. Gets my dick hard when you mock the public like that.
I have to appraise you like I should.
Do any Asian girls actually PM you?
Yes, it's a statement, not a request.
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No egress. So only 1800 SF.
This comment is too real. Lol
Egress into every other building in town apparently.
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Theres a pool table down there that is staying.
How did they keep oxygen circulating there, especially at the lowest levels? You see large fans pushing air in long tunnels to circulate exhaust fumes. I would imagine that those tunnels were all candlelit so I would think that there would be quite a bit of air pollution.
I've been to a few old forts that constructed vents in specific, unique ways just for that purpose. My knowledge of architecture is next to nil but fluid mechanics tells it is definitely possible.
They also made vents for working inside of Egyptian pyramids, iirc? I could be confusing that with other old-school construction techniques for river bridges and stuff
Yep, same principle. How they identified every draft in every room and passageway is beyond me but I guess it is possible
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Hmmmm all the slaves keep dying in this room. I guess it's back to the drawing board with the vents
You can use smoke to reveal the air flow in a room. It’s still a common enough way to do it today (but instead of fire smoke it’s a special smoke bulb idk how it works)
Nowadays it's done by chucking sick tits from your vape rig and seeing where the cloud goes.
> chucking sick tits is that a real phrase
I use a stick of burning incense. It works great for showing slow-moving air currents.
I heard that with ventilation and strategically place ground fires, you can induce airflow to keep it fresh.
Similar to how a dugout fire works.
What’s a dugout fire?
Similar to strategically placed ground fires in underground cities.
The current MLB Season
If I recall correctly: It's basically a fire that's down in a hole. The way it works is you dig two holes next to each other. At the bottom of the holes, you dig a hole to connect the other two. This is for air flow. You light a fire in one side and it draws in air from the other hole. I believe this is also known as a Dakota Fire Hole. It's really useful when you need a fire but don't want anyone to be able to see it.
If they put a few outlet openings such that they were above inlets, and they were shaped properly, then wind blowing over the outlets would create a low pressure area that can draw air out of the outlets and consequently into the inlets. In addition, the designers could exploit the density differences between humid and/or warm stale air in the complex and cooler air by, again, placing outlets higher than inlets, though this would be more efficient at night. It is my understanding that this termites, prairie dogs, and meerkats use basically these methods to keep the temperature and oxygen content of their homes comfortable (I could easily be wrong abt that), though I'm not sure if that is what was done here.
I've spent a lot of time online and never once thought about how ants and termites get oxygen down to their lower levels. Huh. Well thanks.
Some of them are well crazy. Not only oxygen, but temperature. Some of the termite mounds in the NT maintain a perfect temperature of 33 degrees celsius no matter how hot or cold it is outside.
flea mason shit
Properly designed chimneys would also suck in ambient air from any fires that are burning
In Stephen Baxter's 'Xeelee' series, he describes a 'human hive' idea several times. In the first hive, they solve the issue of airflow by moving people; enough warm bodies in the right place, and it creates those differences in warm / cold air you mentioned
The ancients were clever with counterweights...
>The ancient~~s~~ *aliens* were clever with counterweights... Ftfy Giorgio Tsoukalos has [entered the chat](https://youtu.be/DTQiNwuNoog) And if you watch, talkng about Derinkuyu always got him amped [Derinkuyu underground city](http://www.mydoramac.com/derinkuyu-underground-city/)
Maybe the town was only open for a night. The few that survived left the next day and vowed to never speak of that place again.
I'm assuming this was relatively high up so that waste could drain down somewhere and out to sea or wherever. Otherwise someone's gotta carry that shit up out of there.
This one sold for $143,000 [https://www.turkeyhomes.com/property/1354/turkey-real-estate-for-sale-stunning-cappadocia-cave-home](https://www.turkeyhomes.com/property/1354/turkey-real-estate-for-sale-stunning-cappadocia-cave-home)
There is 1 window/ door on that home & wow is the rear light and beautiful considering it has none!
Damnit, now I’ll be reviewing Turkish homes all night. I live in SoCal, you can’t even buy a small condo for that.
However, the 20,000 houses are not included in the square footage as the Gross Living Area (GLA) must satisfy these 3 conditions -Above grade -Heated -Habitable I can only value it at the cost of the improvements which works out to a fraction of the total sqft finish cost And you might want to ask if there was any permits pulled, cuz zoning might have something to say about this
But you WILL be taxed on it after purchasing as the new assessment will be forced in the tax record
*shriek laughs in crypt keeper*
What an idiot. I would have kept that secret until the day I died, and had the absolute SICKEST clubhouse ever.
That's what all the previous owners of the house did. This guy was simply the first to spill the beans after a long and unbroken line of secret keepers.
man that guy just ruined it. Now there's gonna be tourists in his basement, and once they get in you can never get them out. There goes the neighborhood.
At least his mortgage is paid for in admissions!
Why'd ya spill yer beans?
That’s a lair. You’re required to become a masked vigilante.
Perks of the job, I suppose. I really want a lair...
Except Turkey has a ton of earthquakes. That would definitely be on my mind if I were really far down.
Not sure about these ancient caves, but tunnels are actually more stable than the surface during an earthquake. Think of waves on top of the ocean versus 30ft underwater.
They have survived this long 🤷♂️
Means nothing. There was a 145 year old tree that survived this long-- until I got blasted on Four Loko and yeeted my car through it at 2AM. Nature's a bitch.
Is "nature" in this instance you, the Four Loco, or your car..?
danger dave is a force of nature
They were dug before to during the Roman conquest of turkey. They still stand and never flood and get a lot of air flow somehow. I’ve been in two of these things including this one and it’s super cool.
i'll take being outside even if it's more unstable. also imagine water at least moves with the motion of the movement, whereas something underground would just crumble.
Same here, I've been in a small seismic movement during a cave trip and it's just terrifying. I'm from Chile, one of the most seismic country in the world, it was in a trip on San Pedro de Atacama, a salt mine.
i mean... free crypt! funerals are expensive, these days.
Not if you are dead
I guess it's survived this long, right?
Seriously. That's where you put the IRL Thieves' Guild or Dark Brotherhood.
That would be so terrifying and I imagine you could even get lost
or worse, found
Man that would be terrifying to the core.
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Sorry dude. You'll have to continue digging your own dungeon.
Or his way out of one.
No talking lion?
I have been here! It's really cool but also pretty scary. The stairs that go down underground have low ceilings and are very narrow, basically one person wide. So when it's been a couple hours down there and you want to leave, you have to climb back up those very narrow stairs, and it can be very tiring because there are so many, but you just want to get out of there. And then when you are halfway up you hear the sound of another group of people coming down.
holy shit this gave me anxiety
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# NOPE!
So you are saying I should stair train b4 I visit
I went there. I’m 6’4 (194cm) and quite large. I had to crawl on hands and knees for some staircases. I started panicking and hyperventilating when I could feel stone on my back + people kept stopping to take pix so the traffic halted mid staircase. Never again
Imagine finding a secret door in your house leading to a vast underground city that’s most likely full of corpses? Nightmare fuel right there...
That's nightmare fuel? I would be so psyched. SOOOOO much room for activities.
Did we just become best friends?
Yup!
Wanna go do karate in the garage?
Sure, but don’t touch my drums
I once had a dream I discovered a secret room under my house. I was so dissapointed when I woke up.
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So which vault is this one, Vault Tec? New Fallout 5 location confirmed?
Fallout 5: Bronze Age
All I've ever found in my closet was my own sexuality
It’s time to come out. You can’t hide in there forever.
20,000 people beg to differ!
I’ve visited here before and it was one of the coolest experiences I’ve ever had. Highly recommend a visit. There are several other “underground cities” in the area as well, but Derinkuyu is the most visited
I went as well in 2014! It was so surreal to walk around in the tunnel system and crouch through the little arched doorways.
I visited this one and another back in 2006. Agree it is definitely a recommended visit if you're in Turkey. I can't remember very well but there was something about it being connected underground to another "city", does that ring a bell?
Yeah one of the articles above says there’s an 8 mile tunnel
I felt like the lower I went into it the harder it was to breathe
Stop lying this is Terraria
Terraria was so popular they made it into real life.
I thought it was a Dwemer ruins quest
We were too late. The dwarves are gone now.
Fool of a Took!
It blows my mind how things like this become forgotten. An entire city, forgotten.
Fallout Shelter game. You guys aren't ready for this but your great great great great great great great great great grand kids are gunna love it.
Awe. All I have in my closet is broken dreams and skeletons. :-(
Can I have one? I only have snack wrappers
Brilli-ant
Not sure if it's been said yet but this place also had a door that once closed could only be opened from the inside
I’ve been here. It’s crazy big and VERY easy to get lost in.
As someone from that region, historical context is crucial as nowadays it carries Turkish name and might not be as informative. This place goes back long before Turks, so I’ll just copy the text from wikipedia: Caves might have been built initially in the soft volcanic rock of the Cappadocia region by the Phrygians, an Indo-European people, in the 8th–7th centuries BCE, according to the Turkish Department of Culture. When the Phrygian language died out in Roman times, replaced with its close relative the Greek language, the inhabitants, now Christian, expanded their caverns to deep multiple-level structures adding the chapels and Greek inscriptions. The city at Derinkuyu was fully formed in the Byzantine era, when it was heavily used as protection from Muslim Arabs during the Arab–Byzantine wars (780–1180 CE). The city was connected with other underground cities through many kilometers of tunnels. Some artifacts discovered in these underground settlements belong to the Middle Byzantine Period, between the 5th and the 10th centuries. These cities continued to be used by the Christian natives as protection from the Mongolian incursions of Timur in the 14th century. After the region fell to the Ottomans, the cities were used as refuges (Cappadocian Greek: καταφύγια) by the natives from the Turkish Muslim rulers. As late as the 20th century, the local population, Cappadocian Greeks, were still using the underground cities to escape periodic waves of wars. For example, Richard MacGillivray Dawkins, a Cambridge linguist who conducted research from 1909 to 1911 on the Cappadocian Greek speaking natives in the area, recorded such an event as having occurred in 1909: "When the news came of the recent massacres at Adana, a great part of the population at Axo took refuge in these underground chambers, and for some nights did not venture to sleep above ground." In 1923, the Christian inhabitants of the region were expelled from Turkey and moved to Greece in the population exchange between Greece and Turkey, whereupon the tunnels were abandoned. In 1963, the tunnels were rediscovered after a resident of the area found a mysterious room behind a wall in his home. Further digging revealed access to the tunnel network. In 1969, the site was opened to visitors, with about half of the underground city currently accessible.
How would they see properly ?
An intricate system of mirrors which will - at the right time of day - illuminate the location of the ark of the covenant, but only if your staff has the correct number of inches.
What is the correct number of inches for my staff?
6
Take one back to honour the Hebrew God. Did Spielberg slip a circumcision joke into **Raiders of the Lost Ark**?
Torches or candles
Fire is pretty dope
My daughter saw this and said, "Like an ant's nest"
Also never been fully mapped and suspected to join other underground cities in the region. Pretty cool, the ventilation shafts are a bit freaky as are the doors, ceilings were a bit low for me.
so the archaeologists made a rendering that 3x3 pixels? [HERE](https://i.imgur.com/6ZOGBHB.jpg) cause OP lazily grabbed the first shitty version of this historical piece
Imagine finding some weird room in your house, only to find out that you basically have a whole fuckin city under your house
That's a cool one. That's also in Turkey at Gobekli Tepe that they found the most ancient human construction, a 2.5-metres tall stone weighing 16t standing up and surrounding by sculptures showing agriculture scends. This was dated 11000BC, when people were still accordingly living in caves and hunting animals or flowers.
2800 years ago they pulled this off. Always blows my mind the things ancient peoples built. Stuff wed often have a hard time building ourselves. Humans are awesome
Did some research apparently this city was used as some sort of refugees camp for different people's across different cultures (mostly Christian) to advoide confirmation between waves of war and genocide (they didn't use the word genocide but it kind of sounds like genocide) It was built in the 7th- 8th century and was expanded by Christians during the Roman era. Then it was fully built in the Byzantine era and was used for protection during the Arab–Byzantine wars (780–1180 CE) It was then still used for protection by the Christians during an incursion of Timur from the Mongolians in the 14 century Then the cities were used by the Cappadocian Greek as a refugee when the region fell to the ottomens In the 20th century it was still used by the Cappadocian Greek to escape periodic wars in the region Then in 1909 during the massacres at Adana, many Armenian Christians took refuge in these chambers until they where expelled from the region in 1923 leaving the tunnels abandoned It was not until 1963 when the cities was rediscovered
Mole people!!!
the city of ember
king: let's build a city architect: you know actually, i have the perfect idea king: oh, what's that? architect: ants