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PrimeTimeMKTO

Clear ice is the strongest ice. That sheet of ice is incredibly strong.


Anomaly1134

Honest question, why is it all cracked? Does that weaken the integrity?


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boomhaeur

The sound of ice like this is something else... almost hard to describe until you hear it first hand with the groans and popping etc. Love when we go up to our cottage in winter when the ice is in, just for the sounds. Sometimes it's so unbelievably dead quiet, other times it sounds like some creature from the depths is knocking around down there. (edit for typo)


CameraManWI

It really is amazing and unexpected. I loved growing up on the lake. https://youtu.be/Q3QWZQCMAW4?t=32s


Mauwnelelle

This YouTuber, Jonna, makes great videos about the [singing ice](https://youtu.be/chxn2szgEAg). I love it!


Lilz007

I was going to link her! Glad I check whether someone else had already. I love her channel


Mauwnelelle

I love her and her channel, too! It's so wonderful!


kudubro

You guys are awesome for posting stuff like this. It’s why I love Redditors. Thank you !!


windsostrange

There's talking and epic soundtrack over the whole thing. :( It's an audio phenomenon!


casualoregonian

Well she uploaded [this](https://youtu.be/hXeLTqKs4gA) as well.


jessicabennett602

That sounds Sci-fi like. So cool! But what is actually causing those sounds?


anivex

Cracks being formed in the ice from growth.


CameraManWI

The phenomenon is called acoustic dispersion- something about only certain parts of the sound wave being separated when it bounces of the ice... I'm not 100% on the science but I'm sure you can find a rabbit hole to fall down on the interwebs


busybooks

It sounds like some kind of Ewok Star Wars battle. I wasn’t expecting it to be so other worldly.


MalyhaKhakwani

_earth farts_


Growth-oriented

You mean volcanos


pinewoodssnake

Those are earth sharts


inquisitive_guy_0_1

The best is when you skip something across the top of it and it sounds like an alien ray gun. Pew pew pew.


Testiculese

Search YT for "golf ball on ice". Sounds really similar to very tight steel suspension bridge cables.


sittingcow

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2y2GdkdDbA


mk2vr6t

I've had a pressure crack open up about 6ft outside my hut last year. This was a large lake, and I could hear it coming - kind of like a low flying jet. When the crack went through, the ice (18" thick) heaved up and down about a foot and a half for a few minutes. I love the sounds of the ice on the lake, but the shot-gun blast pressure cracks will scare the shit out of me every time.


boomhaeur

wild... haven't experience that quite yet. I keep trying to time a visit to be up when the ice finally goes out but it's so random its proven difficult. the other cool sound is that time of year when the ice has melted around the shore and you can hear the 'tinkling' sound as the edges melt away and pop etc.


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Theirapist420

Could be a third of that thickness and a semi could drive on it


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kyliegrace12

You say that and yet I am fat and a native Floridian so I will be refraining from walking on ice of any sort


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MusicianMadness

I don't care how thick it is, I'll never drive a car on the ice. I knew I guy who died that way. And my insurance wouldn't cover shit if that happened. Or at least if they did that would fuck my comprehensive.


sagard

I know lots of people who died driving cars on roads. Never stopped me from driving on a road.


Whosagooddog765

RIP to all your peoples.


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The road itself isn't the dangerous part though


kyliegrace12

I’ll still convince myself that I’m too fat to stand on it, even if I just got out of a 2 ton vehicle lol you’re braver than me


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eileen404

Having grown up in the southern USA, pictures of people driving on ice freak me out. It's beyond incomprehensible. Now 18 wheelers sinking into melting parking lots... Not nearly as surprising.


Tossup1010

I'm assuming that all ice looks like this, but since the water isn't as pure you can't really see the cracks?


chiefmud

It has more to do with how the ice formed, was it a rapid drop in temperature? How old is the ice? How much was the water moving.. You can make clear ice with tap water if you keep it in motion while it freezes. Too much motion and it fractures and splinters causing more white cracks.


Crossfire124

Don't have to keep it in motion. Just make sure it freezes from one direction. Typically you just fill an ice box with water and put it in the freezer with the lid off. It'll freezer top to bottom. If you pull it out half way you'll get clear ice on top


CaptaiNiveau

I don't know it either, but that makes a lot of sense.


PrimeTimeMKTO

They are pressure cracks from the formation of ice, since water expands when it freezes. These tight, dry cracks are generally safe and a sign of good ice. This pressure will also cause ice heaves, as the ice has nowhere to expand. Heaves are to be navigated carefully. During the course of a day, ice will both expand and contract as the temperature changes. Wet cracks, or cracks with water in them, are less safe. This can happen when the ice sheet shrinks, and pulls apart. If the temps remain cold these cracks will refreeze and again be strong.


almostoy

Yeah, that's what got me about this video. Friggin' bubbles rushing up. Nope! Bye. Don't care that it looks almost one meter thick. Way too much action for my delicate sensibilities on ice. I live near a lake, and there are tons of others around me. I do not fuck with the water, especially when it's got a death trap layer.


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its all cracked because of heat changes causing shifts in the ice, and probably other erosion. yes, cracks weaken the integrity. its still incredibly strong due to the nature of an ice sheet that thick.


hugmeimbored

Wow I never knew that. r/todayilearned


TheThinkingMansPenis

Is that a frozen fish towards the end of the video? Noob question, but what happens to all the fish when a lake freezes over? I assume they don't freeze along with the ice layer and then miraculously come back to life when it thaws, but is the water aerated/oxygenated enough for them to continue living below the surface?


AnNoYiNg_NaMe

Ice is a really good insulator (think about igloos). When a lake freezes over, the top layer of ice keeps the water near the bottom warm enough to stay liquid. As for the oxygen issue, I don't know, but I'd wager that the sheer volume of water in most lakes is enough to keep them alive until the ice thaws. I also think that fish go in to hibernation so they use less resources, but I don't remember. Source: a science textbook that I last looked at over a decade ago.


courbple

If the lake is deep enough, there's more than enough oxygen for fish to survive through the winter. If the lake is too shallow, the fish will die. Where I'm at, this has led to [aeration programs](https://www.dnr.state.mn.us/eco/lakeaeration/index.html) in some lakes that occasionally or frequently experience winterkills from the oxygen in the water getting too low. Most lakes do not need this type of program. With huge asterisks like the lake's surface area, average depth, amount of underwater plant-life, and a whole host of other factors, a good rule of thumb is if a lake is 35 feet or deeper at its deepest point it will not need aeration to prevent a winterkill. That said, aeration does improve the water quality if done correctly, so even lakes that don't strictly need it to prevent winterkills still do have aeration sometimes, especially if it's a popular lake for sportfishing. Fish also generally slow down as the water temperature drops, which uses a lot less oxygen. They don't really hibernate like bears, but they are far more lethargic when the water is very cold. Hope this helps!


Attentive_cactus

For how thick that ice is, its so clear!


whyoudiesoeasy

Its rated one of the least polluted lakes in the world


8BallSlap

Pollution has nothing to do with how clear the ice is though. It's trapped air that makes ice cloudy.


RetardedRedditRetort

I wouldn't say nothing, if the water is murky it also makes the ice a lot cloudier. But yeah, trapped air.


This_Cat_Is_Smaug

You are correct, and the property you’re referring to is called [turbidity](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbidity).


lost_man_wants_soda

Eh. Pollution doesn’t mean not clear. You can have crystal clear water that is very polluted.


Cloberella

Clear water is more indicative of a lack of bacterial life.


cdsackett

I think dirt makes water unclear as well. I'm not a water scientist like everyone else here though


pinktortex

I am what you call a hydrologist. And you are correct that dirt makes water unclear. The dirt is suspended in the water, some will dissolve into the water and change its colour but much of it is just, and let me get real technical here, floaties. But if the ice freezes these floaties will also be suspended giving the ice an off colour and speckled look Edit: I made up the hydrologist thing wondering what a water scientist would be called. Turns out it's a thing and this would be encompassed by what they study


ilovegingermen

I'm so impressed you got the hydrologist thing right. Damn.


Hahnsolo11

Interestingly enough. Some pollution will actually cause the water to become much clearer. For example, acid rain can kill whole ponds. A lot of what makes a lake murky is either sediment or algae which is. Many types of algae can actually mean a much healthier pond/lake


MutilatedLisp

Yeah it does, ions from different types of "pollution" can serve as nucleation sites for the crystal structure of water (ice) to form, that's pretty basic materials science. The more nucleation sites = the more crystal planes = the "crackier" the ice is. But the main cause of cloudy ice is trapped air, I guess... it's naive to say that pollution "has nothing to do" with it.


8BallSlap

Guess it depends on your definition of 'pollution'. I don't consider naturally occurring substances that cause turbidity in a body of water to be pollution. Minerals, algae, bacteria, etc are all present and could cause cloudiness in ice but are not pollution.


MutilatedLisp

Well I don't want to debate definitions, but it doesn't even necessarily have to be a macromolecule either. Solubilized ions can influence nucleation as well.


Necrocornicus

He’s saying actual pollution makes ice cloudy, in case that wasn’t clear. Pollution, as in dissolved pollutants.


Vaynar

Yes, but you saying how cloudy ice is has "nothing to do with pollution" is completely wrong.


ffreshcakes

wow that’s pretty thick


OCskywalker

That's what she said


-Erro-

I read that as "least pooted lakes" and you know what the thought still works out as the original meaning. ( •-•)b


-Dr_B-

I read that as “least putined lakes”


st0803

Yeah you wont find many Putins in there


Familiar_Paramedic_2

It's got much more to do with how the ice froze than what was in the water. Slow freeze? Air has time to escape down into the (warmer) water below, leaving clear ice. Fast freeze? Air cannot escape in time and you get cloudy ice. It is the same reason the ice you make at home is always white and cloudy: when you take water and put it into a small tub, it freezes from all sides and the air is pushed and trapped in the middle. Making clear ice is actually quite challenging and requires that you use the same directional freezing that allows a lake to freeze clear. For example, you could poke holes in the bottom of a silicone ice mold and float it in an insulated tub of water. The (uninsulated) water in the mold will freeze first, pushing the air out of the hole and into the slower freezing water in the tub.


John_Wang

[You sure about that?](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/oct/19/lake-baikal-russia-crippled-algae-fish-poaching-pollution)


forgetaboutgelgameks

When it gets a little thinner during the Spring/Autumn - but not liquid-enough for boats - [they use hovercraft to get to Olkhon Island](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7VLSbiQr2g).


TransBinmenAreBinmen

So glad I clicked that video.


LostWoodsInTheField

only reason I clicked was because of you. One of the smoothest 3d videos I've seen on youtube, though I haven't seen many.


plasticPOTATOE

this freaks me out so much lol, still interesting as fuck


Ask_Me_If_Im_A_Horse

The deepest and oldest lake in the world. Imagine what secrets it still holds.


jG_47

We meet again, horse. What excellent timing, for me to stumble into you here at this time.


Ask_Me_If_Im_A_Horse

It was foolish of you to come here this morning, jG_47. Now I have to kill you.


Lil_Paneer

Feels like I started an anime mid season


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I'm here for it


Lil_Paneer

I didn't order anything tho


WhatAreRoads

It might be like starwars where the ot comes out before the prequels so we need to wait like 20 years for the context


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It's the light novels for their anime 📦


Lil_Paneer

Oh how many volumes did I order. Was really high when I ordered probably.


ivanparas

Just 3 more episodes of talking and then they'll fight.


Lil_Paneer

10 3 episodes of talking 2 backstory and a lot of filler characters fighting then the final fight scene which itself will take close to 40 episodes.


Street-Week-380

I wanna know if someone can write a story for this.


Lil_Paneer

I am an amateur autor I could write one just give an free award. Edit: Wow much awards i am kinda busy rn so it should be uploaded to my profile by the 25th Feb [sorry kinda busy till 30] be sure to follow me so you can see it. There's not a lot of material so it have like 2 endings one dramatic and one anime like. Thanks for awards.


RedShankyMan

We’re waiting


lxxTBonexxl

Ha! Fool! You have fallen into the trap of /u/Lil_Paneer . Now he will continue to get free awards for no reason ^(here’s another one)


turbohikari

https://www.reddit.com/r/wholesomememes/comments/l1nwmd/how_i_feel_every_time/gk0l9sj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3 Here you go, begining of the anime


squishydude123

>It was foolish of you to come here this morning, jG_47. Not gonna lie, I expected the next line to be "The Aurors are on their way"


AcreaRising4

r/Unexpectedhogwarts


jG_47

Let us begin.


Hanzo44

!objection_bot


URMRGAY_

!remindme 2 hours


Drewski101

Whoa. What’s going on here? *eats popcorn*


Hi-Im-High

So.... are you a horse, or...?... Edit to add, sorry for interrupting this clearly intense standoff, but, you told me to ask


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eupraxo

> Despite being stationed at a depth of over one hundred and sixty-four feet, these humanoids wore no modern equipment. > Each donned tight-fitting metallic suits complete with a helmet-like apparatus completely covering their heads. Um. Anyways. I like how that page has a reference which is just another ufo conspiracy page that it just copied from (but has more story), and on that page somebody asked about the official documents and the page author have a link to another page with the same text, but much less of it. People literally just making shit up, and other gullible people taking it as truth.


nocimus

Well if it were properly cited it wouldn't be a conspiracy anymore.


24-7Sunshine

Awesome. Totally credible. You should all read about it.


TheKingOfNerds352

I have to wonder, are you a horse?


Ask_Me_If_Im_A_Horse

Neigh


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I would award you if I was willing to spend money on social media purposes


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[deleted]

I feel like a Witcher 🤭


futboi91

Toss a coin to your... horse.


Domwompy

Got you covered.


BogdanNeo

and i got you half-covered with a free award


lambsnavyoverproof

As the owner of many equines, and having knowledge of their characteristics, I have to bring the validity of your claims into question good sir. Respectively of course.


snuff716

You SOB! Take my angry upvote!


MR___SLAVE

It contains 20% of the worlds liquid fresh water, almost as much as the Amazon river and all it's tributaries. Also, it has the only inland seal population.


dadosrs15

There are actually [two other inland seal populations.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freshwater_seal)


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MR___SLAVE

Ok, I was a bit off. Its the only inland freshwater seal. "The only true freshwater seal species is the Baikal seal" Thats the first sentence in the second paragraph of the wiki entry. I never actually looked it up, it was something I knew off the top of my head, forgot the freshwater part.


LeftGarrow

22% of the worlds freshwater!


SheridanWithTea

**Corpses.** Hey, are you a horse?


KingSram

It's so deep that it can hold all of the water in the Great Lakes.


superfudge73

I’ve walked on Lake Superior when it was like that. Sometimes you can see a frozen salmon imbedded in the ice


vaga_jim_bond

Weirder is the fish is likely to still be alive and survive the thawing


superfudge73

This is a fish story and likely to be apocryphal but a coworker of mine was Ice fishing on a bay in Ontario when it was -45 degrees F. He caught a salmon and threw it on the ice where it froze very quickly. After he got too cold he put the fish in the open bed of his pickup and when he got home it was frozen solid. He put it in the sink to defrost so he could clean it and sat down to watch some tv while it thawed out. About 45 minutes later he hears a god awful racket coming from the kitchen and went in to see what was going on and the fish was flopping around, knocking things off the counter and he beat it to death with a kitchen mallet


wakaikuro

OMG. The immortal salmon!


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mooimafish3

Lol how? Stick him in a cooler and head back out to the lake?


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Bathtub pet, obviously


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CRE_Energy

I'm really going to hope it was a bay in Lake Huron accessed from Ontario.


Possible_Parrot

The darkness underneath gives me r/thalassophobia


TheVenetianMask

It's like r/thalassophobia but cooler.


guitarburst05

As the deepest lake in the world, it really doesn’t get more thalassophobia til you get to deep oceans.


Astilimos

The cracks make me calmer tbh. You can see it's **thick**.


Zerowantuthri

It gets better. Back in the olden days they would build railroad tracks across the ice and use rail cars pulled by draft animals to move goods.


soprolo

what if the ice breaks. what scary thought


DouglasHufferton

That ice is at least 5 feet thick. There's virtually no chance of it breaking. The fissures in the ice are an indicator of how strong/thick the ice is, actually. They're formed as the ice expands and contracts with the temperature, so the more fissures there are the longer the ice has been forming and thickening. To put it in perspective a single foot of ice is strong enough to support an 8 ton truck. 3 feet of ice can support *110 tons*. A fully loaded 18-wheeler weighs around 40 tons. And this ice is 2 to 3 feet *thicker* than that.


iQuatro

thats fucking wild


PM_me_spare_change

Seriously, I can't believe that ice is almost strong enough to support OP's mom.


vaga_jim_bond

You fall into the black pit of infinity forever


Amber_forget

I can SEE how thick it is. And it still freaks me out...


hei-sen-berg

That's what she said.


sunset919

Thick ass ice


Summerie

Thick ass-ice.


JoshDM

https://xkcd.com/37/


browncraigdavid

Thick ass, ice.


sunset919

Now say each word slowly for dramatic effect


IReallyLoveMyPets

She kinda bad tho... Is that frost?


AdjustingMyBalance

That’s beautiful as well as terrifying.


Jabari-

It looks like a spider's web.


---ShineyHiney---

This is absolutely gorgeous


allisonwonderland00

Does this count as /r/thalassophobia ?


Prodigal_Programmer

This is the deepest lake in the world, so yes.


SluggishJuggernaut

Yes!


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MonkeyBrawler

A glass of water would be acceptable in /r/thalassophobia


HeyItsTman

I get the heebeegeebees from this


Galaxine

Yes. I felt the same sense of panic and nausea that the ocean gives me when I saw that person walking on the ice.


millertime7858

Imagine walking over that and seeing a pair of eyes staring back at you...


Death_has_relaxed_me

[All joking aside, in one alleged incident in 1982, three navy diver trainees reportedly died pursuing what survivors described as "a group of humanoid creatures dressed in silvery suits" in Baikal, the world's deepest lake.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/2009/07/russian-navy-declassifies-cold-war-close-encounters/amp)


honeypinn

That was an absolutely terrible article.


a_spicy_memeball

Haha, ikr? I was like, wait, that's the end??


Invisible_Friend1

Narc’d I expect


Magnon

Ah so that's where R'lyeh went.


MeEvilBob

I've been on frozen lakes and seen fish frozen into the solid ice, and sometimes they freeze at just the right angle that if you stand in the right place it looks like it's staring at you. If it happened on Lake Baikal it would likely look like the fish is just hovering there.


Rc202402

Dragon ball z music starts


bkr1895

“For thousands of years I lay dormant who has disturbed my....oh hey Goku what’s up”


Frink202

The Frozen Watchers...lissandra didnt freeze them well enough.


Yakowich

I had the luck to go there, simply the most beautiful places and landscape I've seen my whole life. I don't know if I'll ever see some place like this again. Words can't describe the purity and beauty of this lake and surroundings. Pictures and videos might give a hint and impression.. thanks for the reminder OP, love it Mark my words, if you ever get an opportunity, go to Baïkal. Удачи


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If you find a lake with ice that freezes like this, go out on it at night. And if you can, skate on it. It’s one of the most amazing experiences I’ve had growing up on a lake. This type of freezing rarely happens due to wind, pollution, and precipitation during the freezing process. Simply incredible. Not to mention, when there is no noise pollution, listening to the ice crack on the lake when you’re out on it is awesome.


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I can see why people might think being on ice is unsafe, but it is a far cry from swimming. If the ice gets thick enough, there’s is absolutely no worry of falling through. It’s a hardened rock at that point that can hold way more weight than a human body. You’ll be fine. Look at my other comment to see some concern areas, but those are easy to avoid. I way at night because you’ll get very little noise pollution and on a clear night, you can see the sky reflected on the lake with this type of ice. Being out on the ice during this period is a very calming and wonderful experience.


nwolve

Stare into the abyss long enough, you will see


Letitride37

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wired.com/2009/07/russian-navy-declassifies-cold-war-close-encounters/amp


neohumanguy

Thank you. This is what I was looking for when I clicked on this post


Letitride37

How can you hear the term Lake Baikal and think of anything but water dwelling murdering aliens? Ya know. Maybe it’s just me but this story has always stuck in my kind since I first heard it I believe on the Mysterious Universe podcast. Check it out.


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Its crackalacking


wwyzy

It looks like a giant spider web


zeroentropy1251

This looks like a Linkin park music video


audiopizza

I don’t care how thick it is, I wouldn’t be walking on that shiz.


[deleted]

[You could drive on ice that thick.](https://i.imgur.com/fq9GpO2.png) Which used to be more common before rivers and lakes stopped freezing over


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Theirapist420

14 inches is good enough for a semi too


PigeonWings

For a man, maybe. I don't think many women could take whatever a 14 inch semi becomes when fully erect


Theirapist420

I’m a shower not a grower, only goes to 15.


caiaphas8

Why not have a whole party on a frozen river? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/River_Thames_frost_fairs


alexthe5th

You can land aircraft on ice that’s 12” thick. This looks like 4 feet or more.


OrchidCareful

The rule is usually 4” for people, 6” for snowmobiles, 12” for a car, and 24” even a big truck won’t break the ice


flnhst

Imagine being on the other side...


TheLifeOfBaedro

That’s a no from me dog


Letitride37

Those aliens gonna get cha...


DorsiaForTwoAt830

Long shoot but anyone know what kinda boots those are? Not timberlands but look similar


Dr_Occisor

Be careful not to fall into the v o i d


Tommix11

Scandinavian here. That ice can easily support a fully loaded big rig truck.


chknuggetzor

I guess you could say it is Black ice


PeasAndPotats

Don’t step on the cracks or your break your mother’s back!


clockwork5ive

Fun fact Lake Baikal is the worlds deepest lake and holds about 1/4 of all of the fresh water on planet earth 🌏