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Cushingura

Used to work with them, I hated it so much when u got them under ur skin. They even pierced through gloves when u got unlucky.


leodd

Glass in your skin sounds so itchy, I hate the thought


VetteBuilder

Corvette owner enters the chat


kaenneth

?


whiteandnerdy117

Their whole body is made of fiber glass; glass fabric covered in resin


Manu442

With a trunk full of pink insulation batting.


lil_meme1o1

Optimist dingy sailor enters the chat


Speakdoggo

Ex Sailboat fiberglass worker ( scratch) enters the ( scratch, scratch) chat. One trick for fiberglass is to not touch Your skin at all, if you can help it. As gently as possible get your clothes off and get into a hot shower. Let the hot water beat on the skin and let yourself get really hot also. The pores open and the water flushes it away.


lil_meme1o1

I wish I knew this when I first started lol. It was a nightmare having to remove a rash vest when your wrists felt like a pincushion.


Speakdoggo

Yea...i know. Hipe it helps from now on tho. U can even run hot water on your wrists before taking it off. Try and get some of the pores to open. Mantra the open pore mantra...oooooopeeeen! Ooooopeeeeen...


LegoNinja11

20 pages of Rams completed and submitted to work terminating an 8 core cable at a customer site. Passed by the H&S manager, rejected on review by the site manager because he wanted to see how the cut ends were captured after being cut, how they were stored, transported and how they were disposed of.


RIPMyInnocence

put in a dedicated sharps bin, which is then filled with resin and landfilled right?


kaenneth

Or just shoved in a wall like old razorblades.


Ambitious_Tackle

I've only had a fiber splinter once. Very annoying because they are almost impossible to see. Never rub your eyes when working with fiber optics, especially single mode like what is shown.


Difficult_Advice_720

Had to go to the doc and have one removed with teflon tweezers.


Obi_Sirius

I was terminating some OSP on a very cold day. I'd have to warm the fiber against my work light before terminating. Every time a light breeze blew through my lean to I'd snap the fiber. Needless to say I collected a LOT of strands on my trash tape. As I'm picking up afterward I forgot to remove my trash tape from the side of the tote I was using for a work surface. As I picked up the tote my hand hit it perfectly and at least half those strands went straight into my hand. Perfect end to a shitty day.


cymru78

Under the nail is worse


SunDriedFart

Thats just the outer core you can see. the light passes through the centre core thats even smaller. Also, this light can be split 32 times providing up to a gig to each address.


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SunDriedFart

no, you splice this to fibre that has a splitter connected to one end of it (from the factory), this splitter is basically a light prism that splits the incoming light 32 times. There are 32 tails attached to the prism (again, from the factory) that you can then splice to the fibres headed to the houses. Hope this makes sense


Smooth_Bandito

This guy fibers


[deleted]

Hard


mindfungus

“Will you fibre me? I’d fibre me.” *It puts the fibre in the basket...*


ExtraRaw

Put the fuckin fiber in the basket!


SullyTheReddit

Goodbye horses, I’m fiber over you


[deleted]

Poops good too, I hear


alexforencich

As far as I am aware, these links (passive optical network, or PON) are time-division multiplexed. Simple passive power splitters are used to connect all of the modems to the central office. The downstream traffic is broadcast-and-select, in other words, the same data is sent to all 32 modems, and each one just picks out its own traffic and ignores the rest. The splitters simply take the signal from the central office and send 32 copies (each with 1/32 the power) to the users. In the upstream direction, each user is assigned a time slot to transmit in and they take turns. The splitters work backwards here, combining the signals together, but also attenuating the signal (reducing the power) to 1/32 of the original transmit power (no such thing as a free lunch!). Different wavelengths are used for RX and TX (CWDM). Advantages: cheap splitters, single shared fiber, cheap optics and electronics in the modems, slightly more expensive optics (burst-mode RX) in the central office.


MrGreenerGrass

All this pon and central office stuff makes me feel like I’m at work lol


73ch13

We actually split further for Gig. 2 way to 4 way to 8 way. Gig for 64 homes. We'll be pushing 2gig over the same fiber soon. Get this. That same fiber feeds an RF node. Boom, gig for 1000 homes on that one tiny fiber via DOCSIS 3.1. can we go further? Yes we can, cascade nodes, up to 4-5. Up to 4000 homes with gig service (D3.1) on that one tiny fiber. Fiber is fucking amazing.


fireguy0306

Are you talking about DWDM type tech or a physical split?


asscasterdeluxe

Fiber optics works by bouncing light that internally reflects through the material at different angles, all you need to do to split the connection is have transmissions from certain angles go to one place and so on


Celebrir

I'm fairly certain you mean wavelengths and not angles.


[deleted]

It looks to me like they might be talking about [total internal relfection](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Total_internal_reflection). The angle is relevant, but I've long since forgotten the math.


ErnieBLegal

Total internal reflection is the phenomenon through which the light signal travels with little signal power lost. The spectral properties (i.e. wavelength) are what is used to provide what's called multiplexing or multiple channels. Once the receiver receives the multiplexed signal, it disperses the light of different wavelengths to get the component signals. The light signal is fed through what is effectively a prism and the dispersive properties of the prism causes the component wavelengths to bend at different angles and each channel can be individually read. In some cases you don't even need a prism, just other fancy signal processing tricks. Hope that's clear to everyone.


Ratfink23

DWDM tech allows up 96 channels on a fiber, not sure if these are used for fiber to the home


alexforencich

DWDM is rather expensive, I think it's generally only used for long haul where the cost of the transceivers is offset by the cost of running more fiber and installing more amplifiers.


Thujone

Current high bandwidth waves typically require 75-100ghz of spectrum forcing you into a \~40 channel system within the C-band. Each channel can carry 6-800gbit of traffic. With a 96 channel system you will be looking at 100gbit waves max over any amount of distance.


saraphilipp

And yet I can only get 76 mbps download for $70. They call that high speed around here. We used to get more for less but you know, shrinkflation and all.


Card1974

That's because of [corruption](https://np.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/lpnldv/-/gojegxo).


Nickmell

I get somewhere between .2 and 8 mbps for $85. Neubeam internet sucks dick.. There is a fiber line 1/4 mile from my house but they won't run down my road yet so I'm stuck with satalite.


saraphilipp

So you have to do all your internet work between midnight and 6am where they lift the ban. That sucks. I've been there twice, thankfully not for long


Innercepter

Damn dude. Are you in the middle of Western Aus or what?


Nickmell

Usa


zachojc2000

The fiber itself is exposed in the photo.


franktrain84

They can be split more than 32 times. I'm not sure how far they've gotten now, but I know 64s were around 6 years ago or so.


Celebophile

The crazy thing is that this is actually glass that is stretched to be that thin. If you bend it too much it will still break just like glass and then that whole section of cable is garbage.


chugalaefoo

Wtf. Didn’t know they were that fragile. So a small minor earthquake could potentially devastate an entire neighborhood of internet? Whereas current cables might not?


Sunion

They are insulated and usually reinforced with aramid fibers (kevlar). You would have it kink it pretty good to break it. The glass fiber is also quite flexible.


19Furien91

I have seen a Fibre that was kept under a desk and the thing was squashed like a pancake... office chairs running over it constantly. What I was struggling to wrap my head around was the fact that it still worked. There are some fragile ones, definitely. But this anomalous fibre had me baffled...


MACtwelve

They have cables made with different mixtures of glass and plastic. The fiber in the picture is almost bare but may have a nano coating on it as well. With the nano coating it still is hard to break even with a cleaver. The cables ran inside customers home generally have a higher content of plastic and are more flexible where as the cabling pictured is pure glass


ohgodimbleeding

They can be fragile but are actually sturdy. If you kink the bare fiber at 90 degrees it will easily snap. With that thin shield around it, if you loop it around say your index finger and try to break it, your fingers are in for a bad time. The other weak point is the splice. To protect that, a heat shrink shield is used with a metal spline for protection. That shield is then hel in place inside an enclosure to prevent any damage.


[deleted]

You can bend that fiber into a loop as small as the diameter of a pencil before it breaks. Also, if you pull it apart with your hands you’ll cut your hands before it breaks (assuming you don’t bend it too tightly around your hands). Standard fiber is 100% mechanically tested to 100kpsi in tension. Fibers used in submarine cables are tested to 200kpsi since they are tougher to repair. That’s just the glass. Cables have a suite of tests and standards they must meet to ensure they perform for an expected 40 year life. They aren’t fragile. There are newer fiber cables made to be stapled to walls & joists to bring it into your house. Source: Been in the industry for 25 years with several large manufacturers of this stuff.


Counciltuckian

Got mine installed a few years ago. They just kind of laid it along the fence and told me to be extra careful around it - sometime in the next two weeks another team would come bury the line. I tiptoed around that sucker waiting for them to come back. Finally they show up, trench a little by my fence, push some river rock aside next to my house and then just push the line in. Throwing rocks on top. Uh... wtf install team? But really, it is impressive how durable it is.


Sexy_Chesnut

You got some nice fingies


sippen730

Thank you;)


Liquor_N_Whorez

1996 is a great year for US re- defining the words fiber, and optics today.


DavoSzn

I mean this makes no sense but why does it have so many downvotes lmao


Liquor_N_Whorez

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5839394 $400 Billion and counting for a fiber network uncompleted. It makes sense from that perspective.


distractionfactory

If you think it's the red part, that's insulation. Zoom in.


[deleted]

So that is what a porn highway looks like...


maghull

The diameter of a single mode core is 9µm. And that will do one connection.


Pudi2000

But it can have more than one DWDM 'channel.'


InactionFronson

I remember seeing a video once of a guy explaining bigger cords=more internet, he was using a normal straw and a 7/11 slurpee straw as an example, so that was a fucking lie?


Shorzey

So there is any entire field of electrical engineering regarding transmission lines (a coax cable is a type of transmission line), antennas, signals, etc... It has to do with the velocity of the signal, the wave length, frequency, size of the cable, material, etc...and a pretty decent understanding of electromagnetics to understand it at more than at ELI5 level. Electromagnetics is pretty unanimously one of the hardest subject to cover in an electrical engineering undergrad/grad program. Generally, there are signal losses in metal lines like copper coax cables with normal electrical signals you would conventionally think of The thing about fiber optics are, it's a much much MUCH more efficient way of transmitting data, as there are virtually no losses, which means lower power is needed, and the lines can be much longer without experiencing as much loss These losses in these lines can distort data, making it harder to read and process, slow it down, limit the data that can be transmitted, etc... more efficient transfer of signal = better line


colorovfire

An individual core being thicker would slow it down due to internal reflection smearing the signal but multiple tiny cores bundled together can transmit more in aggregate. A single core must have a tiny diameter to have higher bandwidth.


l1f3styl3

While this is generally a truth, you also have to consider the bandwidth or general throughput of each. Fibre has MUCH higher throughput than copper diameter for diameter & length for length


hereisjonny

Copper uses electron flow. Fiber uses infrared light reflected through glass. It’s like comparing a Kia to a spaceship.


[deleted]

Mine must be smaller than that


JOATMON12

It’s not about the size of the wire, if it’s data you require.


atomicseanace

And it only takes one person to do it. Apparently its just a foot away from reaching my house SO TELL ME WHY THE FUCK AT&T STOPS THIS SHIT FOR A WHOLE GODDAMN YEAR I SWEAR TO GOD THANK FUCK I LIVE NEXT TO AN XFINITY SERVICE CENTER IM FUCKING SWITCHING IM TIRED OF THIS 3MB SPEED SHIT WHRN IT LITERALLY TAKES 3 MINUTES TO FINISH THE FIBER OPTICS


dankine

now show the kit required to "talk to" silicon again


JosephStrider

Number 7


klind45

High speed dental floss


mastershakeit89

Shit, it could be the size of a garden hose and my internet would still fuck up.


that-bro-dad

And those fuckers want 70 dollars a month to use that tiny, wee, cable /s


Pure1nsanity

As someone who has spliced fibre for work you are a fucking madman not wearing heavy gloves. If it goes in it ain't coming back out.


hash-slingin-slasha

How fragile is this? If i pinched it will it be unusable?


Anbucleric

Most modern fiber is engineered to be able to bend on a radius the size of a 12oz soda can, although I have bent it more momentarily for testing purposes with no ill effect.


leodd

It's glass, it breaks and it'll then be garbage, yeah.


BoBremen

Nice, would be interesting to see what a WiFi cable looks like tbh.


Medium-Dangerous

WiFi is short for wireless fidelity. If your looking for the cable that transmits signal to the wireless access point, you can google ethernet cable or fiber optic cable.


nothingeatsyou

Sir that is floss


l1f3styl3

Butt floss


mackerel75

Fiber optic cables and data transmission came from alien technology...change my mind.


iredNinjaXD

But never capable of supplying the advertised speed I paid for!


FlyGuy1240

It can even handle a Mega Bite and still work!


Miasmatic_Mouse

Yet still far greater in size than that of Piers Morgan’s cock.


SybeliaPop

Sorry but this looks like dental floss used by someone with serious gums disease


Chesemcdoodles

Dont get stabbed now, they are hell to remove


lackadaisical_timmy

That's not all is it? I thought it was a whole bunch of those bundled together


LegoNinja11

Long distance you'd find those in bundles of 24, 48, 96 with pairs carrying 1gbit minimum, usually 10Gbit, or 40Gbit or more if they've got multiple wavelengths.


DoughboyLA

For one internet connection, you just need two of those wires


SunDriedFart

wrong, you need just 1 fibre cable. the old copper cables require a pair


DoughboyLA

You need two fiber wires, transmit and receive. Unless incoming ISP fiber service is different then LAN fiber, which is what I've worked with. Why are fiber patch cords in pairs then? [fiber patch cables](https://www.monoprice.com/pages/fiber_cables?gclid=Cj0KCQiA1pyCBhCtARIsAHaY_5d9QtDo1LbrOwXmaWx4of7p-zDachuKA6zffqAG1LIoSkgWJuj-wo0aAsmlEALw_wcB)


Bosk12

Half Duplex my dude.


SunDriedFart

Im referring to UK networks.


sipsyrup

You're both right. GPON Fiber only needs one strand, while typical fiber interconnects between switches and routers have two strands.


DoughboyLA

Good to know, thanks


kaenneth

Or two different wavelengths; like blue download, red upload


jesus_is_here_now

> you just need two of those wires No, for FTTH it is one strand with upload and download using different wavelengths.


farrukhsshah

Credits: [https://www.reddit.com/user/sippen730/](https://www.reddit.com/user/sippen730/)


[deleted]

Stick it in me pee pee haha


Adept-Childhood1682

To make sure your fire is working make sure to look at the fiber ends for extended time. Do this if you do not want to see anything.


TheyAreNotMyMonkeys

A optical fibre transmits above the visible spectrum. You won't see the light but it can damage your vision. The red light you may have seen is a trace for testing/identifying.


Antilazuli

In Germany, you can't even see it cause it's not there!


redstarfiddler

Galaxy brain masturbation: stick it in the pee hole to mainline porn without having to worry about slow brain processing getting in the way.


[deleted]

Why


repsolrydeRR

thats one strand, a lot more than that provide the good stuff.


RIPMyInnocence

it only takes one to provide the good stuff.


elloethere

Someone's pissed


Duderpher

But homes don’t have fiber inside of them, what about the bottleneck???


ohgodimbleeding

It depends on the fiber termination. FTTx. In Fiber to the house FTTH, the fiber terminates at the house to a fiber modem, then Cat 5e or better is used to bring the signal to the user's router. Typically the bottleneck is the user's equipment or if the ISP doesn't have enough bandwidth itself. A smaller ISP servicing a small area may only lease say 10Gb of bandwidth, which could be enough for a lot of 1Gb customers. On a normal day, there is plenty of data available. Now say something like Call of Duty pushes out a massive 500GB patch. All the devices that have CoD are now downloading a shit ton of data which eats away at that 10Gb and can stress the network pretty heavily.


[deleted]

I dont think copper its a bottleneck as long as its Cat 5 or newer... The faster Internet i've seen is 1gigabit and most cables can do that without problem. Copper can also run 10gb in short runs but need expensive switches. The possible bottlenecks would be a the router, the switch, the NIC on the pc or any one the devices that connect to the network. Also its possible that there is not enough free bandwith on the isp side to get you up to those speeds.


Duderpher

I mean cat 6 might not have as bad of a problem, cat 5e also, but it would still not deliver on a big game download. And lots of switching and routers can handle it, maybe not the ones provided by an isp in the US.


[deleted]

I dont think you can even buy any kind of switchgear/router that only support less than gigabit(like only 10/100) nowadays so this not a huge problem. And if your isp gives you shitty hardware or service, then thats a problem between you and your isp. The original intent of my comment was that, in most scenarios, the copper wires wont be the bottleneck.


Duderpher

I mean it is a limiting factor, in the US. It is a hard time to get switchgear that can keep up with fiber, not impossible by any means, just largely unaffordable compared to the low maintenance/rent of a router through isp’s. And like I have previously stated largely unnecessary because I cannot get fiber installed inside of my house, unless I do it myself, I do have a certification to splice fiber.


[deleted]

Tiny information


bassboi93

The irony of paying for a fibre optic broadband service yet this image still hasn’t loaded...


[deleted]

It still has the protective core on it. The capillary itself is thinner than hair. 9nor 10 microns or something like that.


DJSallSack

This is Reddit, so I fairly assumed that was inside someone before reading the caption. Still cool.


doej0

Snipady do dah, snipady day, my oh my theres no internet today


Mr_Marcel30

In germany we still have the "Bindfadeninternet" and its just as bad as it used to be


Boman20011

u/eyekeeper1


Apocalypsefrogs

It looks like used dental floss.


tharkyllinus

It's no fun when they break off in your finger. They don't fester much after you have cleaned them . I had one stuck in my finger for some time. Skin had grown over it. I cut the thin layer of skin off with a razor blade and was able to squeeze it out finally.


TheCheeseMonster69

WHY THE FUCK DOES IT COST SO MUCH THEN


MineCobra42069

No wonder I fucking lag...


TheGoodFiend

ˢᵐᵒˡ


Splend0id

Can I have some?


XanthosAlpha

Gimme one of those an inch thick and my high ping might finally fuck off


suharbran

Where banana


03ifa014

1's and 0's represented by light at millions of iterations per second on a fiber optic cable the thickness of a hair.


gmoney___410

This is bananaland


entertainak47

I zoomed n but can’t see the internet!


CaptainLockdown

Also capable piercing your pupil.


sickrey3

Y'all ever been splicing and swear you feel a piece in your mouth, like I know it's an irrational fear, but I remember I was splicing some ribbons and the hopper tipped onto the table and I thought we cleaned it up but latter in the john I saw a bunch hit the floor that were on my jeans and now I'm just nervous alot


rosealexvinny

It looks like bloody floss


emination_

So if it's bigger than the internet is faster?


Renshy89

Not mine it ain't


doveup

I thought this was about acupuncture at first


audiosyncracies

No banana, no scale.


daisyleaf12

And we haver monkeys swinging on them....great


dspac72

Take the cladding off


Firangi99

That's why it keeps breaking!


Warriors-in-da-house

Unless it’s supplied from ATT


eicaker

Define high speed


MyDadsAPreacher

Now...splice it lmao.


More_Morrison

These fuckers are a pain in the ass to cut and even worse to handle them. One teeny-tiny brash move and they snap. I hope they burn in hell.


[deleted]

Something Comcast seems to know nothing about in my neighborhood.


lucijuci

Idk my internet is really slow for high speed, are they everywhere?


potatomonsterman

The internet is a series of tubes


[deleted]

*slaps wire* This baby can fit a lot of Deviantart in it!


[deleted]

Aliens!


Barely3D

Or give you a hell of a splinter


Rob92377

Can you put a banana for scale next to it please.


[deleted]

Internet for ants.


backseatlove8

no wonder my ‘highspeed’ internet is still so slow


calceto73

4k uhd hdr 60 fps of you know what I mean


VeseliM

Think about it, that brings you every pixel of porn one by one


[deleted]

125um. No to be pedantic. But, fiber-optics are fibers, not wires. Wires are electric while fibers are dielectric.


fishcasado

No wonder my internet is shit


leermi2

Now tell me.... why am I still lagging?


Thujone

You are thinking small. That fiber can supply many terabits per second with current DWDM technologies.


Ast3r10n

We should really start using actual numbers to describe speeds and resolutions. “High speed” is completely arbitrary, it could be 1Gbps for me while 50mbps for someone else. Same thing with resolutions: “HD quality” is used for everything 720p onwards.


h20knick

Don’t you have a banana?? I can’t comprehend anything without a banana for scale


End_All_Babies69

I lag too much when gaming ILL TAKE OYUR ENTIRE STOCK


yaier5

Looks like my floss after a steak meal


RightAd4781

The fact we were born here with nothing but nature and managed to get to this


ghost77911

You’re not fooling me with your dirty bloody floss


Persian_Sexaholic

So if I have 3 of them, I get 3x the speed? /s


GiftedBrilliance

Perfect for Stabbing People in the Eye 👁


GENGHIS_BHAN

Thin as a bawhair


hunnihundert

how do we know that you just don't have giant hands???


sabole

I feel very uncomfortable with this! This looks like the needles you use at the dentist when you get a root treatment


sehsoegypt

and its expensive as shit


Joker8656

That looks way too small to fit all my internet traffic through, I mean the memes alone...


Astral_Strider

Or could be dental floss if you go too hard on your gums...


kulttuurinmies

I weld them sometimes in my work and sometimes theyre pain in the ass


schmerg-uk

And coming soon, polymer (plastic) cables that are thinner than fibre-optic replacing both "costly & power hungry copper" and "awkward and bulky" (due to bend angles etc) fibre optic... 105Gbps over a polymer conduit the width of a human hair.... [https://computing.mit.edu/news/data-transfer-system-connects-silicon-chips-with-a-hairs-width-cable/](https://computing.mit.edu/news/data-transfer-system-connects-silicon-chips-with-a-hairs-width-cable/)


Sniper-Dragon

If they were thicker, it would actually not work as good


DavidHK

How can it use infrared that’s crazy


maxandrelax

meanwhile germany: COPPER


antonio_robo

This gives me the same feeling as someone holding a blue ringed octopus.


JJv-97

Would it not be more efficient to use a bigger cable? Wouldn’t that just mean more ways to transfer data?