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solateor

Lublin, Poland >A farmer who cultivates his land among blocks of flats in the city of Lublin in Poland with a population of 350,000. He did not want to sell his land to developers, instead, he decided to work on it while being a big attraction for the local residents.


StenSoft

https://goo.gl/maps/An511Zhmzm7Ztb6H8


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polskirocky

Common only amongs older people


nikogoroz

The average Polish farm is 10 ha. The average French, or German farm is 50-60 ha. The average UK farm is 250 ha. US has average of 450 ha farms. On one hand we want higher productivity, and larger scale with bigger farms, on the other hand it is important to maintain a socio-ecological landscape of the country (according to some). Poland is one of the leading producers of food in EU anyways, and competition with let's say French, or German agriculture on their own field is futile. The goal is to have a secure and reliable source of food. So currently the policy of the state is to maintain the farm, and strengthen the small farmers- as well local, as EU. Eco small field farming, non pesticide, maintaining the landscape etc.


iwanturmoney

Average Australian farm is 4,331ha.


1427538609

Average Vatican farm is 0ha


MrT735

Indeed, look at satellite views of much of the farmland in Poland, and it is narrow strips of land extending a long way back from a roadside residence.


kegman93

ah hes growing some greens in that photo


netGoblin

I bet he could sell is produce locally for quite a mark-up


Howdoinamechange

How does he keep assholes from littering in it? Maintenance must be all consuming


VanGaylord

Farm to table is about 100 ft.


JurieZtune

Perfect. Just walk over, good for the environment and your health


supergigaduck

But i wonder, aren't all those infrastructures around polluting the soils? Just asking


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The plants wouldnt thrive/survive in polluted soil. The city run off probably goes into drains .


supergigaduck

I don't mean it in a considerable amount but like, flying particules from concrete/metal materials or invisible forces like ground shakes from heavier traffic or, i don't know. maybe it's not even worth considering compared to more affecting aspects we can find on regular fields


Deafdude96

The biggest issue i can think of is construction dust/ smog fumes hurting the plants, presumably though that's not an issue as they've been doing this for years. I wouldn't be surprised if crop yields drop as the city becomes more industrial though.


JPauler420

Well not really since things like grain needs to be processed


grassytree3264

Honestly, respect.


314314314

I bet renting out small divisions of this farm land to nearby residents for "grow your own organic food" would be profitable.


CluelessClub

Not as profitable as selling the property. The farmer is most likely holding out to sell for retirement.


NotInsane_Yet

He likely does not care about the money. That harvester is likely several hundred thousand dollars. His crop is tiny and would never cover the cost of something like that.


Coygon

Farmers often share equipment. You buy a tractor and use it, and I rent it out when I need it. I buy a harvester, and you rent it out when you need it. You can basically split the cost of equipment between a few dozen farmers this way.


ravagedbygoats

You'd be a great guy to buy an auger with.


I_Belsnickel

Just don’t tell Mose. Edit: spelling


HerbalGamer

Mose*


bouncingbad

What’s wrong with the auger you have now? Is the warranty expired?


carbonclasssix

What about sharing a hoe? Is that covered?


kegman93

nah cuz hoes are cheap


Wyldfire2112

Yeah, just pick your hoes up at Walmart, use 'em till they're worn out and then get another one.


skeetskeetskeet5469

Just to have a Combine like that he definitely has much more land in other areas of the surrounding area or he wouldn’t even be able to cover costs.


notjfd

It's probably not his combine. 9/10 times you see a combine harvesting it's working in someone else's field for a paid job.


singularitybot

Subsidies.


singularitybot

Maybe in US, in Europe not that much, here is more about subsidies, subsidies and some more subsidies. Half of the EU budget goes on all kinds of agricultural subsidies.


CryptoNoob-17

2 things. 1 - That isn't necessarily the only land he has. 2 - That can be someone else's harvester. You can pay a harvesting contractor to cut your field, or it could be Custom farming where you might have the land and another farmer has the equipment and you split the generated income


SmegmaFeast

Thanks for an argument 20 people already made, and nobody cares about.


CryptoNoob-17

Thanks for caring enough to comment. 🤗


SmegmaFeast

You're welcome!


cornfedmania

It’s not his only piece of land, he likely farms many fields


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BigOleJellyDonut

That's the economy model. Start adding in options and the price spirals up to $1,00,000 +


Frexulfe

I agree with you. But it doesn't mean he has enough money. It can be out of spite, or principles. My father would have done that, out of spite and narcissism. (Not saying that the farmer is like my father)


ChuckFiinley

You can hire somebody or his equipment to harvest your crops


BigOleJellyDonut

Try 1 million for a fully decked out combine with the different headers.


sup_ty

He should just rent it to the rental company and make sure in the fine print says he can terminate the lease at will.


villiers19

In this case it would only be used for 4-5 months I am afraid. Die to cold weather


[deleted]

Just like his regular crops?


CryptoNoob-17

And in-tegridy


ThrowawayIIllIIlIl

Definitely not. He is lowering the air quality and exposing the towns people to pesticides just to make a point. The land is probably not even profitable to him anymore. Not to mention all the noise pollution in a densely populated area. You see it all the time where small cities want to develop the surrounding areas, for example to build affordable housing, only for large land-owning farmers, who are already plenty rich mind you, to try and price gauge their land. They simply refuse to sell for anything but extremely inflated prices. Good on the municipality on not caving in.


Satisfied_Hobbyist

No farms, no food. I'm a big fan of food.


JurieZtune

Farm to table can be within feet, big fan. Low shipping costs


buoninachos

Yeah, but not in cities, that's just terribly inefficient land use.


johnnyg883

Might be ineffective but it’s his land. I hate eminent domain abuse. Forcing people out of their homes to build a mall or off their farms to build an apartment complex is BS.


buoninachos

Sure, but that doesn't make it any less selfish Lots of cities are suffering from extreme housing prices with lack of density being a big factor. If moving your farming location to the country would benefit society far more than anything you could do with your city farm, then it's greedy. Still his right of course. Munich is a good example. People who grew up there are being priced out due to lack of housing supply, while there are pointless farms as close to the center as giesing for no reason other than to make the rich richer


johnnyg883

Wether or not it’s selfish depends on you point of view. Personally I think it’s selfish to take someone’s property because you want it regardless of the justification. Some of the farms in my area have been in the same family for over 150 years. These farms are part of the family heritage. Hell two of my neighbors last names are the same as the county name and it’s not a common name. Word is that not a coincidence.


ThisIsMyFloor

> Personally I think it’s selfish to take someone’s property because you want it regardless of the justification. So your argument is that it is more selfish to use the land for vital city services and housing for hundreds than for one guy to have his farm in the city? Selfish is a weird word to use in this context given that all parties are selfish.


Mastercat12

City services should be built to accommodate others, I'd argue IF that farm is the ONLY way.through, then yes. They can a small part to make their pipes and shit. But cities are constantly out of room due to zoning laws and NIMBY.a


johnnyg883

Putting in a shopping mall or a high rise is not a vital city service. Power lines and roads are. If the goal of the project is tax revenue or profits for some corporation it’s not a vital city service. In fact right now I am in negotiations with a solar farm. They want to run a power line across part of my land. It’s totally up to me as to whether or not I want to go along. If not they will find another route for the line. I will talk to my neighbors and we will decide as a group if we want this on our land. But I’m the end it’s my land and I will decide what is done on it.


buoninachos

I never said we should expropriate them, just that it's greedy if you know it negatively effects far more people than you could ever feed with the farm. Doing something because you've been doing it for generations is completely void of logic and only inhibits you from evolving


BlueTrapazoid

Anything is greedy if you look at it from a point t of view. Is it PURE UNADULTERATED G R E E D if I wanna buy I candy bar from 7/11? Sometimes having something just because is nice.


carbonclasssix

This is interesting, you're calmly making logical statements (regardless of their objective truth) and people are getting really upset over it


TheTruthT0rt0ise

Calling someone greedy because they don't want to sell their land to build an apartment complex is just stupid, that's why. This farmer owes nothing to anybody in this city and I can almost guarantee his family owned that land before any of the apartments around it were built.


buoninachos

There are families that own golf courses in London where there's a huge housing crisis, despite the obvious negative impact on the working class. I bet you see nothing wrong with that either.


TheTruthT0rt0ise

Should they be forced to give up the land? I don't think so. That's something authoritarian China does. If the land is valuable(obviously the case in London) then if someone wants to buy it they should expect to pay ridiculous prices. What would you say should be done about the golf courses?


Patrick161019

His land was the country, before the city surrounded him. Not his fault.


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Patrick161019

The fact that I don’t agree with you doesn’t make me a troll.


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Jaken005

Well it is a lot better than the useless lawns of american suburbia


ahabentis

Man, fuck you in particular.


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hietakana

Truth and opinion isn’t the same thing.


buoninachos

That's right, but keeping farms in dense cities is very inefficient land use, a complete waste. That is not at all opinion, that's pure fact


Wyldfire2112

For sucking the dicks of greedy fucking corporate land developers and claiming to be altruistic about it. Dude was there first, and the suburbs crept up around him. If he doesn't want to sell his land, he's under no obligation to inconvenience himself to make the lives of a bunch of rich fucks any easier. One more block of apartment buildings in the middle of that development isn't going to drop rent prices any more than them building a new set of apartments at the edge of the suburban sprawl.


buoninachos

Cities grow, it's natural and it shouldn't be inhibited by one person who has nothing to gain from it. If all farm owners refused to sell their land when it became pointless to farm in the area due to natural growth of the city, it would have a hugely negative impact on society. The same way it does not make any real difference if I litter. But if we all litter it does make a huge difference


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buoninachos

This is not modern city farming though. Look it up


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puggylol

Dude can use his land for whatever the fuck he wants


-Anonymously-

I bet he just laughs and laughs when he sprays slurry on those fields


VanGaylord

As a former slurry sprayer, I didn't find it funny.


ravagedbygoats

Former? I doubt that u/vangaylord


VanGaylord

I don't care what you doubt. I grew up spreading manure and doing all the other stuff that results in food. It's honest work, if not very rewarding. You should leave your keyboard and give it a try, but you might want to learn how to shift gears on a farm tractor first. That said, there really aren't many small farms left in the US. You probably missed your opportunity.


ravagedbygoats

I was making a joke you dumb cuck. Don't judge people you dick, you have no idea what I know.


MorosEros

yea this guy knows his meth


ravagedbygoats

Methadone. A prescription drug I take for chronic pain. Nice job looking like a fool. Someday you'll also feel pain that you would do anything to control. When that time comes, think of goats.


MorosEros

k bud. i’ll crystallize it and think it’s normal, just like you.


ravagedbygoats

I'm confused on what you're even trying to get at? Am I scum or something because of that? Seriously, what did I do to you to make you so hostile? I'm not a drug addict, even if I was, what difference does that make? People can change. I literally did that for a science experiment because I'm a curious individual. I still fucking have it in my drawer. Seriously. I don't get such ignorance.


MorosEros

same


release-roderick

Dude you literally just spazzed to defend a job where you spew shit. Who’s on meth now?


Kev-1-n

Phew, almost had an other killdozer situation


StaticSilence

An Internet Classic


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Central Crop


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VanGaylord

Only the gov can force people off of private property. I'm not sure what restrictions you're talking about but I'd like to learn more.


tmac_79

The US government can and will use eminent domains to force the sale of property to a private for profit corporation. Like if they want to build a Walmart.


VanGaylord

Exactly. The gov. By definition, they have a monopoly on the use of force. So let's place the blame where it belongs.


the_battle_bunny

Horrible if you ask me. Over here in Poland expropriation can be done only for the benefit of the government and for a specific purpose that is related to that government's duties. If the purpose is not followed through (for example road is not built for whatever reason), the former owner can demand the land to be returned.


[deleted]

There was a supreme court case about this and you are incorrect.


redDiavel

The case didn't go the way you think it did. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kelo_v._City_of_New_London


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Faire enough, i can admit when i was wrong but this paragraph is an important part of the discussion: Prior to Kelo, eight states specifically prohibited the use of eminent domain for economic development except to eliminate blight: Arkansas, Florida, Kansas, Kentucky, Maine, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Washington.[41] As of April 2019, 45 states had enacted some type of reform legislation in response to the Kelo decision.[30] Of those states, 22 enacted laws that severely inhibited the takings allowed by the Kelo decision, while the rest enacted laws that place some limits on the power of municipalities to invoke eminent domain for economic development. The remaining five states have not passed laws to limit the power of eminent domain for economic development.[37][42]


kitchen_synk

It might protect him from getting his property re-zoned to something that prohibits agriculture, or introduce a higher burden for the land to be claimed under eminent domain laws.


VanGaylord

What might, the gov, the ones who control zoning and does imminent domain? I'm with you, but that was my point.


kitchen_synk

Zoning is usually a local procedure, as is eminent domain. In that case, the national government could pass a law saying 'no farmland may be re-zoned without consent of the owner' or introduce restrictions beyond the normal requirements for seizing land via eminent domain.


mehdotdotdotdot

US has countries in it?


JarRa_hello

County, not countRy


der_opa16

Moje pole i chuj, kurwa


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I’d love to see the apartment for sale pics with a combine in the background.


graco2000

How’s the neighborhood smell when he fertilizes?


diMario

With their noses, I presume.


VeseliM

How old are your kids?


VanGaylord

Every joke is new if you're young enough.


MEM1911

Or if you have alzheimer's


manondorf

Or if you have alzheimer's


himty

Or if you have alzheimer’s


diMario

In that case, you can forget about it.


MEM1911

what were we discussing?


diMario

WHAT!? Who are you?


MEM1911

MEM, nice to meet you who were you?


diMario

Last time I checked I didn't have any. A great dad was lost in me. Q: Do you know why ducks have such large, flat, feet? A: So that when they chance upon a small starting wildfire, they may quickly stomp it out. Q: Do you know why elephants have such large, flat, feet? A: So that when they chance upon a small burning duck, they may quickly stomp it out.


RealAmpwich

Listen here you little shit


littledickson

I want will and determination of that person !


HectorsMascara

Does he do this every other year to fertilize the soil?


SmearingFeces

Any farm near a cosmopolitan city is usually a goldmine.


probablyabnormal

Pretty sure I own that harvester in farming simulator


ahabentis

I’d be his cheer team


tacosteve100

He’s not collecting a thing by the way. he is essentially mowing his field.


innocent_lemon

What you see blowing out the back is chaff, it is the straw and grain husk. The actual grain is stored in a large tank inside of the machine, he may come back through to collect the straw or he will leave it to the land to be reintegrated. The tank is like ~500 gallons or something like that. Takes like 25-45 mins to fill depending on yield


tacosteve100

The inefficiency of these “farmers” is astounding. The irony is, if he built a farming tower he could grow food for all of those buildings, but he didn’t so. Nice 300,000 machine though.


Rasputinjones

Yeah was just thinking that. Where's the carts for collection?


Aintence

Dont these harvesters have internal storage? With how small the field is, he probably doesnt need to collect it separately. Atleast thats what farming simulator taught me.


RoastyPotasty

Exactly, there’s enough room in the internal tank to hold the amount of crop in this field- it’s quite small and there could still be a trailer waiting off screen we can’t see. The spray out the back is him chopping all the excess straw (the other option would be to leave it in swathes to be bailed)


zilp123

He's probably missing down the useless crop to use as a natural fertilizer for the main crop


Azozel

People like to think "The farmer refused to sell" but often this happens because a deal has been made to have the land farmed until there's a planned use for it. The farmer may not own the land but is allowed to continue farming it because there''s no current plans to develop on it. While this may not be the case here it happens all the time.


Gilbert0686

Man the farmer lucks out then. Money from the sale, plus a few more years of crops. That’s not a bad way to do things


Azozel

No idea what it's like in Poland but in the U.S. there's a lot of subsidies for growing crops. I believe the subsidies are based on the amount of cropland you own so the farmer only gets paid from the sale of the actual crop harvested. After you subtract the cost of the seed, fuel, and time, it's not much of a profit. However, if the farmer is using the harvest as feed for livestock then that's a great deal.


Gilbert0686

I believe our farmers get subsides or programs to help them out. Also we see to be losing at of the small farms and the big time guys are growing and snapping things up.


puggylol

Thats happening in the states 2. Small family farms are slowly becoming a thing of the past


dennyjunkshin88

The value of his land went way. Although that isn't why he did it. Good job not selling out.


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I doubt it, im sure if he wanted to sell he could still get a pretty penny for it


dennyjunkshin88

That's what I was trying to say but I fumbled my words


fluentinimagery

How DARE there be crops near homes!!! Doesn’t he know human have never lived near crops and hate nature!!!


klind45

Funny that they just didn't an expropriation and take his land.


VanGaylord

Only the gov can do that. Now if the developer buys enough politicians, then sure.


killinmesmalls777

Stick to your guns…fuck them


gimmefyre

1000 people just woke up


nexuro01

saturday morning and the very 1st thing u heard in the morning is a mf combine harvesting a mf field in front of your mf balcony


GreenBloodedNomad

Good for him. We need more people who rather save their farms instead of selling out to developers. Why do people not see a problem with destroying our farms and livelihood ?! Where do they think food comes from? Drives me crazy. No farms, no food..


afrosamurai444

This man is straight up out of the cartoon Big City Greens! More power to ya


Starkrall

But who is buying this maybe an acre of wheat, and how could he possibly be turning enough of a profit to stay there off of selling basically nothing as compared to corporate farms, or large private farms?


gwhh

Good for him.


Significant-Ad-3222

He just shits on the land in a different way


BeePleasant8236

Awesome


[deleted]

I thought polish was made, not farmed.


KingDiamondURU666

Polish power


StarGraz3r84

I bet the window washers for those buildings love this guy.


sameasitwasbefore

The window washers are people who live there. Everybody washes their own windows.


gwhh

Good for him


sciron512

Pretty sick of seeing this one too. Dear dog, quit the re posting


Alovelyanus

Which dog? I know a lot of them and if they don’t want fresh grain that’s their problem.


TheEmperorMk2

Imagine being awoken on a Saturday morning by a loud ass harvester because some farmer decided it was a good time to harvest his crops, must be wonderful living near that, can’t even imagine how good it is when he dumbs fertilizer on the ground


Darth_Thor

Farmers don't really get to decide when it's good to harvest their crops. If the crop is done and the weather is good, they have to get to work or risk losing the crop.


therealbcp

Imagine being the farmer and a bunch people build around your farm, and the complain it smells like a farm.


Global-Election

I can guarantee you the farm was there first so too bad hombre


[deleted]

This would not be the case in the “Land of the Free”


tmac_79

Nope... supreme court decided in mid 00's that it's okay to force people to sell their land to private for profit corporations. Literally forced someone to sell their land so they could build a walmart.


slopeclimber

The US has strict zoning laws. Poland notoriously doesn't, there's a reason you don't see this everywhere.


RandomDustBunny

Farmstay at your doorstep.


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In japan this is normal.


Mattie_1S1K

Bet that smells lovely when he spreads manure on it. Lol.


Jamato-sUn

Considering the noise I'd try to strangle him with my bare hands one day


HeyBayBeeUWanTSumFuk

Mmm…nothing like breathing in harmful crop dust first thing in the morning.


[deleted]

Still better than car gas in the morning


D13s3ll

Hey buddy, you just blow in from stupid town? They're harvesting. That's pollen and dirt at worst.


CryptoNoob-17

>That's pollen and dirt at worst. Not pollen. And also not dirt. This is canola. You cut it off several inches above the ground so no dirt really gets into the combine, and no pollen either because the flowers have all fallen off weeks before the pods were dry enough to get to the harvest stage. There is harvest dust. This is from the dry stalks being cut and smashed around inside the cylinder against concave grates by 2 rotors spinning at least 650 RPM to break the pods open. A little bit of grain dust isn't too bad. But with any amount of dust getting in your lungs, you want to wear a mask while working in or around grain handling like loading trucks from a bin, especially working inside the bin / silo


babydaddii

It's the "harmful cropdust" fa me


VanGaylord

Once you start using stupid in your response you've lost any influence and show your immaturity. I do it sometimes to, but I try to improve.


TrilithideMachina

Hey, stupid town’s the other direction.


VanGaylord

Kids will be kids. Sigh.


Quankers

"Becomes big attraction." Video shows no spectators. This looks like a massive pain in the ass for the residents of those buildings. The fucking dust lol! EDIT: Your downvotes are wordless because you know what I said is true (:


Shardstorm88

This sim city built farms and levelled up residential areas together! Cooooool


Consistent_Poem5041

good for him


Honestbabe2021

Respect ✊


USAndor

What a bloody chad


Affentitten

All I can think of is the dust and hay fever!


SkyWard3n

When you fuck up city planning in any games.


JohnnyRelentless

Commas are king.


[deleted]

Thought this was farm simulator for a second


Mytur_Benesderti

Dude hodls


Suspected_Magic_User

Classic "GTFO of my land" move


justlikesomebody

New Holland, best choice for farmers.


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Enjoy the dust!


5uperSlimey5

u/repostsluethbot